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Originally Posted by redux:
 

dem ole men dis jonesing to re-fite the half-century old wars of their youth

Not in G.town.  Not in Rosehall.  Not on the Essequibo Coast or Lusignan.

 

In Toronto and NY, and they clearly don't have any one left in Guyana who they care about.

 

Those were terrible times as even I, then a 6 year old, recall.

 

Some of these men are reliving the rush, when as young PYO hooligans they set fire to homes occupied by blacks, and then chopped up the black women and kids as they attempted to escape.  What heroes!

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

1962 and 1964 all over again.

And you say this with glee.  Now that we have more organized gangs, more guns and a more ruthless population, why you so eagerly look to this event is very strange.

 

Why do you from the safety of North America?  You do know that if those days came back any prospects for Guyana will be OVER!

You too dunce to understand the man is saying GOVT sponsored, Plan and execution of GOONS against its Citizens.  YOu were with Sidney King doing the execution of the Plans!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

 

Will ayuh antiman still be unable to protect innocent Indian women and children at ayuh rallies in Berbice of all places?

Ramoutar and Jagdeo when elected will role play good COP and BAD COP, Jagdeo will wake up his old gang and they will serve to protect the INDIANS, not only the  women and children but all Indians EVERYWHERE. The PNC will not take defeat easy, so look out, this will a HOT election, Georgetown will BURN.

 

1. Ramotar and the PPP et al doan care two shits for Indian people aside from their kith an kin. They ain't protecting no ordinary Indian anywhere. The Indians as always are on their own and at the mercy of the PNC and it's "enthusiastic supporters."

 

2. The fact that ayuh can casually say "Georgetown will burn" means that in 23 years, ayuh sk**t still can't be trusted to keep order in the capital. Every friggin Government in human history can at least hold the capital. Even St. Kitts can hold their capital.

and comes now dis smirking yute man on PPP retainer babbling stupidly about holding "the capital"

 

I must hold the world's greatest retainer agreement then as it allows me to collect the loot and yet ridicule and pour scorn on the client.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

 

Will ayuh antiman still be unable to protect innocent Indian women and children at ayuh rallies in Berbice of all places?

Ramoutar and Jagdeo when elected will role play good COP and BAD COP, Jagdeo will wake up his old gang and they will serve to protect the INDIANS, not only the  women and children but all Indians EVERYWHERE. The PNC will not take defeat easy, so look out, this will a HOT election, Georgetown will BURN.

 

1. Ramotar and the PPP et al doan care two shits for Indian people aside from their kith an kin. They ain't protecting no ordinary Indian anywhere. The Indians as always are on their own and at the mercy of the PNC and it's "enthusiastic supporters."

 

2. The fact that ayuh can casually say "Georgetown will burn" means that in 23 years, ayuh sk**t still can't be trusted to keep order in the capital. Every friggin Government in human history can at least hold the capital. Even St. Kitts can hold their capital.

and comes now dis smirking yute man on PPP retainer babbling stupidly about holding "the capital"

 I must hold the world's greatest retainer agreement then as it allows me to collect the loot and yet ridicule and pour scorn on the client.

truth be told, i actually have no idea whether you are being paid for your services other than the fact that your shyte lately tends to be paid-poster anti-knowledge, tenacious in that ill-educated style, and coincidentally? tied to the FH talking points du jour

 

your "scorn" for the PPP is a matter of record . . . no one is disputing this

 

but, at your core, you are a tribal operator; your racialism is bigger than the PPP . . . the "ridicule" is narrowly circumscribed - ROAResque

 

what else . . .?

FM
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Originally Posted by cain:

Dem PPP guys love it when the good guys fight amongst themselves

Goes to show that we believe in freedom of speech while they don't.  The notion that a group of people all think alike shows that no one is thinking.

 

It must be obvious how dumb 100% of the PPP posters are.   It isn't that they are all stupid.  Its that the HAVE to PRETEND to be!

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by cain:

Dem PPP guys love it when the good guys fight amongst themselves

Goes to show that we believe in freedom of speech while they don't.  The notion that a group of people all think alike shows that no one is thinking.

 

It must be obvious how dumb 100% of the PPP posters are.   It isn't that they are all stupid.  Its that the HAVE to PRETEND to be!

True dat!

cain
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

If the PNC wins, military rule also wins.  The PNC will utilize the military to perpetuate their rule regardless of the wishes of the people.  The PNC in Govt, Guyana takes a 20+ year backward step.  Anyway, not to worry as you said, PPP winning handsomely, 54%.

FM

So the choice will be military men, many of them well educated and all disciplined, vs. a regime which uses paramilitias to maintain control, and so has to turn a blind eye when these people then engage in crime.  Often using guns provided to them.

 

 

Would you vote for FARC if you had a choice because that is what supporting the PPP means?

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

Good chance you and the PPP are a bunch of nut cases. At least 12 from the AFC will not be military. And less than six people with military on the list will likely get posts It means if they get 33 seats it means 27 will be non military. You and the fear mongering critters need to go piss on yourselves

You will be happy if they exterminate all the Indians in Guyana. You will have a seven day pow wow celebration.

Quit hyperventilating on a lie. You cannot be more of a moron if you try. The reality is the PPP are selling a story line that does not make sense except for complete idiots. I guess that is what they think indians are in general and with you they hit the mark.

 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

If the PNC wins, military rule also wins.  The PNC will utilize the military to perpetuate their rule regardless of the wishes of the people.  The PNC in Govt, Guyana takes a 20+ year backward step.  Anyway, not to worry as you said, PPP winning handsomely, 54%.

Here is the PPP using the military to intimidate and beat up people so shut your backside about what the PPP thinks other peopel will do. They are the corrupt bastards who has robbed us, brutalized us, and even participated in murder of citizens. They better win or all of those crooks will have to sing for their supper.

 

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:

So the choice will be military men, many of them well educated and all disciplined, vs. a regime which uses paramilitias to maintain control, and so has to turn a blind eye when these people then engage in crime.  Often using guns provided to them.

 

 

Would you vote for FARC if you had a choice because that is what supporting the PPP means?

The GoG use the state apparatus to control crime.  However, they don't use it to thwart the will of the people.

 

Not sure what these "well educated, disciplined" men brought Guyana the last time around.  Well, for sure, they brought us death, destruction, degradation, poverty and everything else that goes with it.

 

I say, let the "uneducated, ill-discipline" rule, they seem to be doing a heck better job than your pick.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

If the PNC wins, military rule also wins.  The PNC will utilize the military to perpetuate their rule regardless of the wishes of the people.  The PNC in Govt, Guyana takes a 20+ year backward step.  Anyway, not to worry as you said, PPP winning handsomely, 54%.

Here is the PPP using the military to intimidate and beat up people so shut your backside about what the PPP thinks other peopel will do. They are the corrupt bastards who has robbed us, brutalized us, and even participated in murder of citizens. They better win or all of those crooks will have to sing for their supper.

 

You prefer 2006 when people (mostly Indians) were being slaughtered on the street like sheep.  You prefer when police as being gunned-down with impunity.  You don't know all the facts but you jump to conclusion. 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:

Shaitaan says that it doesn't matter because its only blacks involved.

 

I don't know why you insist on bein such a liard chap but lemme splain you something which may be of assistance.

 

Allow me to add to your education of how Indian people think.

 

Indian people have historically been the disproportionate victims of this catchall word called "crime." This "crime" used to have a racial dimension as recently as 2005. I don't know about now. I can agree that today crime is probably more democratic and proportional in both perpetrators and victims.

 

So from these decades (roughly 1970s to 2005ish) of growing accustomed to anti-Indian violence getting this innocuous label of "crime", Indians have adopted this extrajudicial murder is ok attitude to suspected "criminals" and to bring up Rickford Burke's list of "suspects killed by the Police" (many who probably happen to be Black) does not really elicit much sympathy because there is an innate suspicion that "suspects" are probably guilty.

 

Please note I'm not in any way whatsoever offering this as the way it ought to be. This is to provide context and to guide you in your further understanding of the thought process behind the "collective" "Indian" position on this matter. I do however freely admit that having seen the hideous levels of brutal "crime" in Guyana over the years, I as well as many others have tacitly taken it for granted that the Police must be shooting people who are likely guilty. And God knows the courts aren't equipped to fight crime so we might as well make lil allowance for the Police as judge, jury, and executioner.

 

Now to what I believe. We're all wrong. The Police cannot be judge, jury, and executioner of citizens because even after lengthy trials, appeals, etc, etc., we still end up jailing and executing innocent people here in America so imagine Guyana. We need a professional police force and an effective judicial system. Like the ones we used to have when London used to send its duncest white people to govern us. A well paid, well trained, modern, and democratic community police force not the death dealers of the all powerful State.

 

I hope you can show the gentlemanly character of your former class by taking a pass at the easy but intellectually lazy and unsound route I've offered of concluding that I and all Indians want the Police to shoot Black people because we think Blacks are somehow our natural criminal class. This is one of those instances where the waters of crime, race, and police excess become muddied and one cannot easily trace each drop back to it's pristine mountain source.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:

Shaitaan says that it doesn't matter because its only blacks involved.

 

I don't know why you insist on bein such a liard chap but lemme splain you something which may be of assistance.

 

Allow me to add to your education of how Indian people think.

 

Indian people have historically been the disproportionate victims of this catchall word called "crime." This "crime" used to have a racial dimension as recently as 2005. I don't know about now. I can agree that today crime is probably more democratic and proportional in both perpetrators and victims.

 

So from these decades (roughly 1970s to 2005ish) of growing accustomed to anti-Indian violence getting this innocuous label of "crime", Indians have adopted this extrajudicial murder is ok attitude to suspected "criminals" and to bring up Rickford Burke's list of "suspects killed by the Police" (many who probably happen to be Black) does not really elicit much sympathy because there is an innate suspicion that "suspects" are probably guilty.

 

Please note I'm not in any way whatsoever offering this as the way it ought to be. This is to provide context and to guide you in your further understanding of the thought process behind the "collective" "Indian" position on this matter. I do however freely admit that having seen the hideous levels of brutal "crime" in Guyana over the years, I as well as many others have tacitly taken it for granted that the Police must be shooting people who are likely guilty. And God knows the courts aren't equipped to fight crime so we might as well make lil allowance for the Police as judge, jury, and executioner.

 

Now to what I believe. We're all wrong. The Police cannot be judge, jury, and executioner of citizens because even after lengthy trials, appeals, etc, etc., we still end up jailing and executing innocent people here in America so imagine Guyana. We need a professional police force and an effective judicial system. Like the ones we used to have when London used to send its duncest white people to govern us. A well paid, well trained, modern, and democratic community police force not the death dealers of the all powerful State.

 

I hope you can show the gentlemanly character of your former class by taking a pass at the easy but intellectually lazy and unsound route I've offered of concluding that I and all Indians want the Police to shoot Black people because we think Blacks are somehow our natural criminal class. This is one of those instances where the waters of crime, race, and police excess become muddied and one cannot easily trace each drop back to it's pristine mountain source.

Nice synopsis.

 

Caribj, please take this and the piece I wrote on the Indian psyche, it will add context around the collective Indian mind-set.  Any Indian who claims of no such knowledge, experience (like TK) and liars or naked opportunist.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:

Shaitaan says that it doesn't matter because its only blacks involved.

 

I don't know why you insist on bein such a liard chap but lemme splain you something which may be of assistance.

 

Allow me to add to your education of how Indian people think.

 

Indian people have historically been the disproportionate victims of this catchall word called "crime." This "crime" used to have a racial dimension as recently as 2005. I don't know about now. I can agree that today crime is probably more democratic and proportional in both perpetrators and victims.

 

So from these decades (roughly 1970s to 2005ish) of growing accustomed to anti-Indian violence getting this innocuous label of "crime", Indians have adopted this extrajudicial murder is ok attitude to suspected "criminals" and to bring up Rickford Burke's list of "suspects killed by the Police" (many who probably happen to be Black) does not really elicit much sympathy because there is an innate suspicion that "suspects" are probably guilty.

 

Please note I'm not in any way whatsoever offering this as the way it ought to be. This is to provide context and to guide you in your further understanding of the thought process behind the "collective" "Indian" position on this matter. I do however freely admit that having seen the hideous levels of brutal "crime" in Guyana over the years, I as well as many others have tacitly taken it for granted that the Police must be shooting people who are likely guilty. And God knows the courts aren't equipped to fight crime so we might as well make lil allowance for the Police as judge, jury, and executioner.

 

Now to what I believe. We're all wrong. The Police cannot be judge, jury, and executioner of citizens because even after lengthy trials, appeals, etc, etc., we still end up jailing and executing innocent people here in America so imagine Guyana. We need a professional police force and an effective judicial system. Like the ones we used to have when London used to send its duncest white people to govern us. A well paid, well trained, modern, and democratic community police force not the death dealers of the all powerful State.

 

I hope you can show the gentlemanly character of your former class by taking a pass at the easy but intellectually lazy and unsound route I've offered of concluding that I and all Indians want the Police to shoot Black people because we think Blacks are somehow our natural criminal class. This is one of those instances where the waters of crime, race, and police excess become muddied and one cannot easily trace each drop back to it's pristine mountain source.

Nice synopsis.

 

Caribj, please take this and the piece I wrote on the Indian psyche, it will add context around the collective Indian mind-set.  Any Indian who claims of no such knowledge, experience (like TK) and liars or naked opportunist.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:

Shaitaan says that it doesn't matter because its only blacks involved.

 

I don't know why you insist on bein such a liard chap but lemme splain you something which may be of assistance.

 

Allow me to add to your education of how Indian people think.

 

Indian people have historically been the disproportionate victims of this catchall word called "crime." This "crime" used to have a racial dimension as recently as 2005. I don't know about now. I can agree that today crime is probably more democratic and proportional in both perpetrators and victims.

 

So from these decades (roughly 1970s to 2005ish) of growing accustomed to anti-Indian violence getting this innocuous label of "crime", Indians have adopted this extrajudicial murder is ok attitude to suspected "criminals" and to bring up Rickford Burke's list of "suspects killed by the Police" (many who probably happen to be Black) does not really elicit much sympathy because there is an innate suspicion that "suspects" are probably guilty.

 

Please note I'm not in any way whatsoever offering this as the way it ought to be. This is to provide context and to guide you in your further understanding of the thought process behind the "collective" "Indian" position on this matter. I do however freely admit that having seen the hideous levels of brutal "crime" in Guyana over the years, I as well as many others have tacitly taken it for granted that the Police must be shooting people who are likely guilty. And God knows the courts aren't equipped to fight crime so we might as well make lil allowance for the Police as judge, jury, and executioner.

 

Now to what I believe. We're all wrong. The Police cannot be judge, jury, and executioner of citizens because even after lengthy trials, appeals, etc, etc., we still end up jailing and executing innocent people here in America so imagine Guyana. We need a professional police force and an effective judicial system. Like the ones we used to have when London used to send its duncest white people to govern us. A well paid, well trained, modern, and democratic community police force not the death dealers of the all powerful State.

 

I hope you can show the gentlemanly character of your former class by taking a pass at the easy but intellectually lazy and unsound route I've offered of concluding that I and all Indians want the Police to shoot Black people because we think Blacks are somehow our natural criminal class. This is one of those instances where the waters of crime, race, and police excess become muddied and one cannot easily trace each drop back to it's pristine mountain source.

Nice synopsis.

 

Caribj, please take this and the piece I wrote on the Indian psyche, it will add context around the collective Indian mind-set.  Any Indian who claims of no such knowledge, experience (like TK) and liars or naked opportunist.

 

Morning Parosin,

 

Care to share the joke?

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Allow me to add to your education of how Indian people think.

 

Indian people have historically been the disproportionate victims of this catchall word called "crime." This "crime" used to have a racial dimension as recently as 2005. I don't know about now. I can agree that today crime is probably more democratic and proportional in both perpetrators and victims.

Indians are more than likely not aware of the fact that most Indian victims were attacked by another Indian.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by kp:

If the coalition, APNU/AFC should win the general election there is a good chance the majority of ministers will be x- military and police members. Now, would they rule as a military style government? I can see General Granger is a no nonsense man and would apply an army style of governance where the rest will have to "toe the line".Remember, Granger will be the President and the CEO, all the so call Vice Presidents means nothing, just the same as ministers without portfolio .Not to worry, the PPP will WIN.

If the PNC wins, military rule also wins.  The PNC will utilize the military to perpetuate their rule regardless of the wishes of the people.  The PNC in Govt, Guyana takes a 20+ year backward step.  Anyway, not to worry as you said, PPP winning handsomely, 54%.

Here is the PPP using the military to intimidate and beat up people so shut your backside about what the PPP thinks other peopel will do. They are the corrupt bastards who has robbed us, brutalized us, and even participated in murder of citizens. They better win or all of those crooks will have to sing for their supper.

 

 

You prefer 2006 when people (mostly Indians) were being slaughtered on the street like sheep.  You prefer when police as being gunned-down with impunity.  You don't know all the facts but you jump to conclusion. 

Again you lie like a skunk? When is it that bandits or whomever killed Indians differentially in in 2006? This idea of victimization of Indians as some sacred burden Indians alone bear is a brazen lie believed only by crass bigots like you needing to sell that lie to validate Indian dominance of the political system and all that entails. Lets be real, if Guyana has a discriminated and marginalized race it is not Indians. It is definitely amerindians and Indians as well as blacks have been their oppressors.

 

Here is Jagdeo speaking through his corrupt behind that the APNU is going to use the military to harass people and he used it as his personal enforcer, breaking down doors on the east coast. During his tenure he used ex military to murder lots of citizens he felt were a threat to the PPP. That being said you and others still come here to peddle the lie that Indians are in danger from the security forces when it is black kids they brutalize daily. Today, black kids die at the hands of the security forces at rates of about ten to one to indians. They need to fear the security forces not Indians.

 

You have a sexual predator in the form of the Minister of health as threatening to do violence against an Indian woman who dared question him and none of you filthy minded beasts say a damn thing. Yet someone throwing eggs at a car threatens to exterminate Indian women and children! You had the Amerindian kids accusing the Chinese of sexual slavery and rape and none of you opened your vile yaps. You saw the military beating up a native woman for defending her birthright and yet again you were silent as snakes.

 

You are all a bunch of brazen bigots whose sole intent is to validate the existence of this obscenely corrupt regime. Instead of demanding some modicum of good government and a means to actualize t hat the intent of Indians is to preserve this vile regime. Dont ask why you are distrusted in the society that you can ever be morally believed to create a just society. Indians has been obscenely nepotistic in a democracy and yet complain about the vile behavior of Afticans in a cold war era petit dictatorship! You are the ones propping up corruption presently. 

 

As I often say; if the Opposition wins and they do not apply the whole Sri Lankan experience to these crooks I will be the first one calling them out as hypocrites.

FM
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Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

1962 and 1964 all over again.

And you say this with glee.  Now that we have more organized gangs, more guns and a more ruthless population, why you so eagerly look to this event is very strange.

 

Why do you from the safety of North America?  You do know that if those days came back any prospects for Guyana will be OVER!

You too dunce to understand the man is saying GOVT sponsored, Plan and execution of GOONS against its Citizens.  YOu were with Sidney King doing the execution of the Plans!!!!!!!!!

you speaking about the phantom 

 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:

So the choice will be military men, many of them well educated and all disciplined, vs. a regime which uses paramilitias to maintain control, and so has to turn a blind eye when these people then engage in crime.  Often using guns provided to them.

 

 

Would you vote for FARC if you had a choice because that is what supporting the PPP means?

The GoG use the state apparatus to control crime.  However, they don't use it to thwart the will of the people.

 

Not sure what these "well educated, disciplined" men brought Guyana the last time around.  Well, for sure, they brought us death, destruction, degradation, poverty and everything else that goes with it.

 

I say, let the "uneducated, ill-discipline" rule, they seem to be doing a heck better job than your pick.

...doan forget at the end place this

 

..after all, is ABIE TIME NOW.

cain
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