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FM
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The views of the man in the street are simple, it was only time before the super ego-centric nature of the joint opposition got the better of them.....the downward spiral of the joint opposition has gained greater momentum....the Guyanese populace now has a clear picture of how devious the joint opposition is.

 

In the event of any snap elections, the masses will endorse the truly working class party, the party for all Guyanese, the People Progressive Party/Civic

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Don't gloat too much Conscience. Raphael did the right thing. We know Rohee allowed a police commissioner who "benefitted materially from the drugs trade to serve." We know Rohee is one of the most corrupt persons in the PPP. A Minister killed by the drug Lord Rohee used to fight crimes. Although the Constitution is a bastardized one - the Burnham Constitution - that Ramotar says he loves, we've got to go with what it says - that Ramotar is the God of the land who wants his corrupt Rohee in place. Only Lord Ramotar, former editor of World Marxist Review, can remove Rohee. That is what the Burnham Constitution gives. Having said that, had the AFC had its agenda right in the last year none of this would have happened. They seem to operate on a piss in the wind strategy, much like the PPP does with its economic policies. 

FM

I heard that there is serious talk about re-uniting the PPP. People are talking about a major conference involving members and ex-members of the party debating the issues that are affecting the party. Elections for the party's presidential candidate  is expected to debated hotly. The next elections in Guyana might most likely see another candidate representing the PPP.

 

Keep your ears on the ground.

Billy Ram Balgobin

The time has come, for the joint opposition to stop playing partisan politics, stop their vendetta pursuits and witch hunting, its time the opposition work with the democratically elected govt,towards the development of the country,during the next sitting of the National Assembly, in the event the joint opposition becomes very disruptive, the speaker should use the powers vested in him through the standing orders, to discipline whosoever disobeys the parliamentary standing orders

FM

Now that the Rohee issue is history, its time the Parliamentarians work together for the greater good of the nation, the Guyanese populace was growing tired of the devious and sinister motives of the joint opposition to frustrate every single government project under the sun, just for the sake of attracting a ray of limelight.....

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I heard that there is serious talk about re-uniting the PPP.

PROGRESSIVE elements of the PPP/C and the PNCR need to re-unite

Do you mind listing those progressives in the PPP? 

They are known and are numerous to mention.

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I heard that there is serious talk about re-uniting the PPP.

PROGRESSIVE elements of the PPP/C and the PNCR need to re-unite

 

Do you mind listing those progressives in the PPP? 

The Hponorable President Ramotar, Ramkarran, Nandalall, Rohee, Gail, Luncheon, Benn.

Nehru

The Peoples Progressive Party is pleased that the Speaker of the National Assembly has been able to make a definitive ruling on the Rohee gag.

The party today signaled its appreciation for the recent ruling from the Speaker, via its Chief Whip Gail Teixeira who said that they are satisfied that the Speaker has taken a principled position and upheld the constitution in his ruling.

Teixeira said they are aware that the speaker is under stress and pressure from both sides, and is pleased that he continues to take his role as speaker in a balanced and accepted way.

With regards to rumours about a no confidence motion in Trotman, Teixeira said the speaker must be held at a higher standard.

She noted too that he has come through a long period, and that his ruling was long in the making.

However “he finally stood up for what is right and has done a courageous deed” she added.

The PPP is now anticipating the next sitting of the house, and according to the chief whip it would be quite strange if the AFC does not support their party leader as speaker.

 

excerpts from http://www.inewsguyana.com

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The views of the man in the street are simple, it was only time before the super ego-centric nature of the joint opposition got the better of them.....the downward spiral of the joint opposition has gained greater momentum....the Guyanese populace now has a clear picture of how devious the joint opposition is.

 

In the event of any snap elections, the masses will endorse the truly working class party, the party for all Guyanese, the People Progressive Party/Civic

 Audaciously assuming the prerogative to speak for the "man in the street" may be a consequence of your party's dictatorial presumption to immaculate wisdom about everything but please ease up on this pretense to omniscience on the forum. The Party is a minority so for practical reality it does not speak for 60 percent of the electorate who did not vote for it and 51 percent of it who vote to reject them.

 

I guess in your unintellectual cobbling of long refuted psychological theory you need this "super ego centric" phraseology to convey your idea of the opposition being overly moralistic ( it cannot be other wise and still be meaningful) Well, if that nonsense needs a refutation then it is in the response that hyper-vigilance in the face of Hyper corrupt PPP party practices cannot be bad.

 

The only thing the Guyanese population has been acutely aware of since this new dispensation by the voters is that their choice was prudent and providential. The PPP is in love with autocracy. Given that absolute power corrupts absolutely it is not only a guiding principle but a practical reality that in light of pervasive corruption that there should and will not be any let up in the pursuit to restrain the PPP's crookedness.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I heard that there is serious talk about re-uniting the PPP.

PROGRESSIVE elements of the PPP/C and the PNCR need to re-unite

 

Do you mind listing those progressives in the PPP? 

The Hponorable President Ramotar, Ramkarran, Nandalall, Rohee, Gail, Luncheon, Benn.

===

 

The President says he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution, so your list starts off on the wrong foot. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I heard that there is serious talk about re-uniting the PPP.

PROGRESSIVE elements of the PPP/C and the PNCR need to re-unite

 

Do you mind listing those progressives in the PPP? 

The Hponorable President Ramotar, Ramkarran, Nandalall, Rohee, Gail, Luncheon, Benn.

===

 

The President says he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution, so your list starts off on the wrong foot. 

 I bet there are existing documents or speeches where he whined about it as all the PPP members did ceaseless when it came into being.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

They just presented a vote on particular issues of a constitutional nature according to the OP. Was he not clamoring that this or that is against the constitution?

 

And what does the 2/3 majority mean except that the PPP will not contribute to limiting their dictatorial powers?

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

FM

AFC/APNU/ are busy with their own agenda to reverse democracy in the nation's parliament by giving indication that they will not accept the speaker's ruling regardless if its unlawful to the constitution. According to them the government business can wait while they are on a reckless and dangerous path of self fulfillment. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

 As I said, check the last pieces of legislation re the Procurement commission etc. Go and read the AG said about the legislation. Surely, you believe t he PPP are truth tellers...don't you?

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

===

 

The AFC and PNC have always said they want reform. The AFC even said it in its Action Plan. President Ramotar has said explicitly he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution. 

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

As I said, check the last pieces of legislation re the Procurement commission etc. Go and read the AG said about the legislation. Surely, you believe t he PPP are truth tellers...don't you?

The issue is about the number of members needed to change the constitution.

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

===

 

The AFC and PNC have always said they want reform. The AFC even said it in its Action Plan. President Ramotar has said explicitly he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution. 

Again, saying and doing are two distinct approaches.

 

Now that the AFC and PNC have the one-seat majority, when will they advance the needed changes to the constitution?

FM
Originally Posted by TK:

Don't gloat too much Conscience. Raphael did the right thing. We know Rohee allowed a police commissioner who "benefitted materially from the drugs trade to serve." We know Rohee is one of the most corrupt persons in the PPP. A Minister killed by the drug Lord Rohee used to fight crimes. Although the Constitution is a bastardized one - the Burnham Constitution - that Ramotar says he loves, we've got to go with what it says - that Ramotar is the God of the land who wants his corrupt Rohee in place. Only Lord Ramotar, former editor of World Marxist Review, can remove Rohee. That is what the Burnham Constitution gives. Having said that, had the AFC had its agenda right in the last year none of this would have happened. They seem to operate on a piss in the wind strategy, much like the PPP does with its economic policies. 

TK, not sure if you realize it, you also pissing in the wind.  The AFC has been a lose-canon party for a long time.  Even the FB page became a laughing stock filled with nonsense and irrelevant stuff in the run-up to the election.

 

Now that the PPP is no good, the AFC is no good, ROAR is defunct, I think you have to head the PNC way.  They have it all together.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

===

 

The AFC and PNC have always said they want reform. The AFC even said it in its Action Plan. President Ramotar has said explicitly he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution. 

Again, saying and doing are two distinct approaches.

 

Now that the AFC and PNC have the one-seat majority, when will they advance the needed changes to the constitution?

===

 

I hope they advance it soon...then we will see the PPP's response. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

===

 

The AFC and PNC have always said they want reform. The AFC even said it in its Action Plan. President Ramotar has said explicitly he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution. 

Again, saying and doing are two distinct approaches.

 

Now that the AFC and PNC have the one-seat majority, when will they advance the needed changes to the constitution?

===

 

I hope they advance it soon...then we will see the PPP's response. 

Hope and actual doing something are also two different actions.

 

Soon = never?

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

At least, two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are needed to approve the major parts of the constitution.

 

When has the AFC and PNCR made the efforts to effect the changes?

===

 

AFC and PNC said they support constitutional changes. Only the PPP says no. If the PPP agrees you get the 2/3. 

When has AFC and PNC decided to change the constitution?

 

Saying and actually doing are different actions.

===

 

The AFC and PNC have always said they want reform. The AFC even said it in its Action Plan. President Ramotar has said explicitly he sees nothing wrong with the Burnham Constitution. 

Again, saying and doing are two distinct approaches.

 

Now that the AFC and PNC have the one-seat majority, when will they advance the needed changes to the constitution?

===

 

I hope they advance it soon...then we will see the PPP's response. 

Hope and actual doing something are also two different actions.

 

Soon = never?

===

 

I actually agree with you that they should have taken the issue to Parliament by now. Even if it turns out to be symbolic if the PPP rejects, which it is likely to do given Ramotar's love for the Burnham Constitution. This is a battle for the hearts and mind of the people. Fighting against that ass Rohee will not endear them to the masses...fighting for constitutional change will. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
I actually agree with you that they should have taken the issue to Parliament by now. Even if it turns out to be symbolic if the PPP rejects, ...

It will be interesting, should the day comes, to see what the AFC and PNC has to offer.

 

Their lack of not bringing this issue since last year is quite troubling.

FM

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