quote:Originally posted by Catherine:
Twenty first century my dear....
Compare Jagdeo's house with the hundreds of newly build houses in this day and age... modernity for you.
Tell dem deh Cathrine...abie pan tap.
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Tell dem deh Cathrine...abie pan tap.
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Is the AFC in the habit of begging people to join? When this happens, it shows no credence in the party. Recruiting Tom, Dick and Harry will not enable the AFC to win rather than to break wind.
Former Member
What happen to Catherine. She probably ran away to go tell Uncle Joey. A few days ago she was going to get Uncle Joey to crush my balls in the street.
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quote:Originally posted by Cobra:
Is the AFC in the habit of begging people to join? When this happens, it shows no credence in the party. Recruiting Tom, Dick and Harry will not enable the AFC to win rather than to break wind.
The "dick" I say no, Tom and Harry, maybe not bad.
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quote:Originally posted by Catherine:quote:Originally posted by TI:
I'm curious. What is Moses bringing to the AFC table?
This is a serious question. Isn't the man a Marxist?
I suppose this is a slap in the face to the PPP, but how is this helping AFC? What does Trotman say?
Anything the AFC can scrap and 'sanay' for a meal, they will be happy. Moses is giving them some attention, but he is not bringing anything other than 'revenge' to the PPP.
PPP will live on forever, bringing prosperity to the nation...
This was a quick political death for Moses.
Moses will leave for the same reasons Peter Ramsaroop had left.
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Perhaps I can comfort myself and retain my faith in humanity, that more than likely, you are only this way because you are blogging anonymously...quote:Originally posted by Catherine:
Twenty first century my dear....
Compare Jagdeo's house with the hundreds of newly build houses in this day and age... modernity for you.
How can modernity be an excuse for using taxpayers not only to build the infrastructure for this area, but also to run an exclusive water pipeline from Mon Repos, and to top it off, move a signal tower to the tune of G$200M? Mind you, after all of this, including building concrete drains never before seen in any other Gov't housing scheme in Guyana, to have the land sold to himself for G$5M per acre?
All this while being the President of a working class party, and when the core of that very party, the sugar-worker, is today under economic duress and uncertainty. Catherine, assuming you are not a paid blogger, you cannot possibly be that shameless in your real life...can you?
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quote:Originally posted by Cobra:
Moses crossing over to the AFC can only make matters worst for the party whose hope is to gain fame. Moses is one of the old comrades from the Jagan days who doesn't feel comfortable with the present-day PPP that passes him thirteen years. Mose's resignation is a talk half, left half scenario. I have great respect and admiration for Mr. Nagamootoo, but I don't believe he's all good without mistakes. The AFC will lose the November 28 election with Moses on board, and that will be very burdensome to any PPP former member's endorsement. This may be big news for the AFC to announce, but it's not noteworthy to the common man. I must say that Moses has made a fool of himself to join ranks with hooligans.
We lost Moses but we gained Joey and Peter.
They have more to give the PPP and than Moses will ever give to the AFC.
Joey will mobilize the berbicians in the name of his father. The PPP will live once again.
In 2006 they were saying the same thing. Although they have some more PPP rejects, their campaign again is not very organised.
The only thing that the AFCites learn from their bottom House meetings, is how to count from 1 to 100.
The president needs to live in a big house so he can think big for the country. Research have shown that when corporate leaders live in cramped apartments in cities NY they tend to think small than their competitors who live in huge mansions. Jagdeo needs more room to dream of things really big for Guyana.
Bookman (Guest)
After spending a happy Divali, Bookman is back in the struggle now.
So, Moses and Lady Garrido-Lowe are now on the AFC slate, eh? Boy oh boy, that's Gomattie Part 2 in the making. Bookman can't wait to hear about the jhanjhat that will end all jhanjhats.
Meanwhile, Bookman sticking on solid to the indomitable PPP/C and the Donald.
For sure, the PPP/C will be victorious on November 28. The AFC will lose, with or without Moses. Watch and see.
So, Moses and Lady Garrido-Lowe are now on the AFC slate, eh? Boy oh boy, that's Gomattie Part 2 in the making. Bookman can't wait to hear about the jhanjhat that will end all jhanjhats.
Meanwhile, Bookman sticking on solid to the indomitable PPP/C and the Donald.
For sure, the PPP/C will be victorious on November 28. The AFC will lose, with or without Moses. Watch and see.
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quote:Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
The president needs to live in a big house so he can think big for the country. Research have shown that when corporate leaders live in cramped apartments in cities NY they tend to think small than their competitors who live in huge mansions. Jagdeo needs more room to dream of things really big for Guyana.
Billy Ram you are not a guy who thinks that way. That is like the spirit of one of them wall street thieves had taken over you.
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quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
In light of this?
Moses joins the AFC
by Neil Marks on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 at 5:02pm
It is now certain that Moses Nagamootoo, who served the PPP for almost five decades, has joined the platform of the Alliance for Change.
Nagamootoo, 64, will step on the AFC stage for the first time Thursday at a rally billed for Independence Park at 1:30 PM. From there, the party leaders will head to City Hall to present their Candidate List for contesting the November 28 polls.
Nagamootoo Monday resigned from the PPP, saying the current leadership has demonstrated the sort of pettiness, greed, corruption and arrogance that party founder, Dr Cheddi Jagan, fought against.
He served as a Member of the PPP Cabinet governments of Dr Cheddi Jagan, Janet Jagan, Samuel Hinds and Bharrat Jagdeo.
Nagamootoo was educated at the Auchlyne Scots School, Corentyne and the Rose Hall and Comprehensive High Schools. He was a visiting journalits at the University of Kansas and pursued studies towards a Law degree at the University of Guyana and the University of the West Indies.
He was a teacher between 1964-71.
He was born in Whim Village on the Corentyne Coast. His parents, Gagana (chunoo) and Nagamootoo Ramaswamy (Mootoo) were first generation Guyana-born offspring of Indian immigrants who came from India's Madrasi population.
His book, Hendreeâs Cure: Scenes from Madrasi Life in a New World (Peepal Tree, 2000), a work of documentary fiction, is a libation to the Madrasi world of his youth.
Nagamootoo has the support of his wife, Sita (a former headmistrer and lecturer at the teacher's training college) and that of his four children Angela, Maria, Adela and Moses Ernesto.
You think that those guys would follow moses blindly..
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quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
In light of this? Can I say welcome to the AFC to Uncles Churchill, Mara, marlon and Wally, and Jalil?
Thank you Gerhard, but at the end of the day, Mara coming aboard would not yield a handful of ca-ca-belly, a cat-fish nor a green mango for the AFC or any party. I do not have the franchise and I am too far removed from ground zero to make a proper & informed assessment. Nevertheless, if it is any consolation to you, after 19 consecutive years in power and in spite of the palpable economic progress under their watch, the recent behavior and antics of many in the administration has convinced me that they have earned and deserve a hiatus on the opposition benches. Increasingly their arrogance, shamelessness, bare face, bold face and vulgar abuse of power has made it difficult for those with a conscience to ignore or excuse. I hope the ascension of the AFC platform of the likes of Moses, Ragendra, Van West Charles and others would be the shot in the arm that the AFC need. Good luck and best wishes!
If I may, a word of advise; keep some of the chiwawas on a short leash. With premature exuberance and mindless yapping, I believe they are unintentionally causing more harm than good to the cause of the AFC.
In light of this? Can I say welcome to the AFC to Uncles Churchill, Mara, marlon and Wally, and Jalil?
Thank you Gerhard, but at the end of the day, Mara coming aboard would not yield a handful of ca-ca-belly, a cat-fish nor a green mango for the AFC or any party. I do not have the franchise and I am too far removed from ground zero to make a proper & informed assessment. Nevertheless, if it is any consolation to you, after 19 consecutive years in power and in spite of the palpable economic progress under their watch, the recent behavior and antics of many in the administration has convinced me that they have earned and deserve a hiatus on the opposition benches. Increasingly their arrogance, shamelessness, bare face, bold face and vulgar abuse of power has made it difficult for those with a conscience to ignore or excuse. I hope the ascension of the AFC platform of the likes of Moses, Ragendra, Van West Charles and others would be the shot in the arm that the AFC need. Good luck and best wishes!
If I may, a word of advise; keep some of the chiwawas on a short leash. With premature exuberance and mindless yapping, I believe they are unintentionally causing more harm than good to the cause of the AFC.
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Moses will not be joining the AFC. He will remain out of it. But let's assume that he does what is the likely scenario? He will turn against the PPP and will say bad things, which is not new. The same things were said by Teekah, Chandisingh, Harry Lall etc. and where did it get them? The real deal is that the Guyanese nation is not stupid. They know that Moses would be there to feather his nest. The real loser will be Moses in the end as his legacy will be tarnished.
Ultimately, it is Moses to decide what he wants to do...
Ultimately, it is Moses to decide what he wants to do...
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quote:Originally posted by Alexander:
Moses will not be joining the AFC. He will remain out of it. But let's assume that he does what is the likely scenario? He will turn against the PPP and will say bad things, which is not new. The same things were said by Teekah, Chandisingh, Harry Lall etc. and where did it get them? The real deal is that the Guyanese nation is not stupid. They know that Moses would be there to feather his nest. The real loser will be Moses in the end as his legacy will be tarnished.
Ultimately, it is Moses to decide what he wants to do...
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you Uncle Alexander?
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You know I respect your position Uncle Maraquote:Originally posted by Mara:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
In light of this? Can I say welcome to the AFC to Uncles Churchill, Mara, marlon and Wally, and Jalil?
Thank you Gerhard, but at the end of the day, Mara coming aboard would not yield a handful of ca-ca-belly, a cat-fish nor a green mango for the AFC or any party. I do not have the franchise and I am too far removed from ground zero to make a proper & informed assessment. Nevertheless, if it is any consolation to you, after 19 consecutive years in power and in spite of the palpable economic progress under their watch, the recent behavior and antics of many in the administration has convinced me that they have earned and deserve a hiatus on the opposition benches. Increasingly their arrogance, shamelessness, bare face, bold face and vulgar abuse of power has made it difficult for those with a conscience to ignore or excuse. I hope the ascension of the AFC platform of the likes of Moses, Ragendra, Van West Charles and others would be the shot in the arm that the AFC need. Good luck and best wishes!
If I may, a word of advise; keep some of the chiwawas on a short leash. With premature exuberance and mindless yapping, I believe they are unintentionally causing more harm than good to the cause of the AFC.
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He is on the poster but did he publish a statement that he has joined?
Catherine (Guest)
I fully agree with you Alex. You said it so well.
In my view, Moses has been in the wilderness for a number of years after his fiasco with the PPP. He never made an attempt to make amends. Rather, every ear he is lucky to get, he will tarnish the PPP and would not give any credit to the PPP's effort. While one can acknowledge that a government is not perfect, one must be unbiased and offer some recognition of its progress. Moses could not do this as he was emotionally charged every time he engages in a conversation about the PPP. It was all about MOSES and no one else. How hurt he is. He carried a HOT HEAD instead.
Now, he has no legacy but his EMOTIONS to wear on his sleeves.
He could have made a comeback but decided (again, HOTHEADEDLY) to be revengeful and to get some press report ABOUT MOSES. This is the only spotlight before his light goes out (politically speaking)... and soon a DEAD DUCK.
In my view, Moses has been in the wilderness for a number of years after his fiasco with the PPP. He never made an attempt to make amends. Rather, every ear he is lucky to get, he will tarnish the PPP and would not give any credit to the PPP's effort. While one can acknowledge that a government is not perfect, one must be unbiased and offer some recognition of its progress. Moses could not do this as he was emotionally charged every time he engages in a conversation about the PPP. It was all about MOSES and no one else. How hurt he is. He carried a HOT HEAD instead.
Now, he has no legacy but his EMOTIONS to wear on his sleeves.
He could have made a comeback but decided (again, HOTHEADEDLY) to be revengeful and to get some press report ABOUT MOSES. This is the only spotlight before his light goes out (politically speaking)... and soon a DEAD DUCK.
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Are you serious that you are doubting this, Uncle Alexander, knowing too that it is coming from me? Oh well in a few hours time, Uncle Moses will actually be on the platformquote:Originally posted by Alexander:
He is on the poster but did he publish a statement that he has joined?
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Bai, it is coming from you but people change all the time. Until Moses issues a statement we have to wait and see.
Catherine (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:Are you serious that you are doubting this, Uncle Alexander, knowing too that it is coming from me? Oh well in a few hours time, Uncle Moses will actually be on the platformquote:Originally posted by Alexander:
He is on the poster but did he publish a statement that he has joined?
If he is on the platform, we know it is all about REVENGE and a final PASSIONATE please to say, 'please boys, accept me nah! Me been in the wilderness too lang."
Moses will only be doing this to be spiteful and the AFC will love it. They only know how to spread false propaganda. With Moses on their side, they will not be gaining; rather, Moses will be losing.... his face, his political life... too bad, so sad.
In the end, the Guyanese people will go to the polls for the PPP/C - a party of prosperity.
Why can't you people just say, "good luck" to the man (Moses) and move on?
Prior to Moses splitting from the PPP wasn't he just great? Now he's moved "forward" he's suddenly become a monster.
Is this how y'all gonna treat the Prez after he hangs up his jockstrap..OOPs, I meant, his crown?
He's the greatest, the best ever, bla bla bla, soon as he's gone, baddam, he's kicked to the curb.
Is no wonder Iman deadin with laff with each crya baby post made.
Prior to Moses splitting from the PPP wasn't he just great? Now he's moved "forward" he's suddenly become a monster.
Is this how y'all gonna treat the Prez after he hangs up his jockstrap..OOPs, I meant, his crown?
He's the greatest, the best ever, bla bla bla, soon as he's gone, baddam, he's kicked to the curb.
Is no wonder Iman deadin with laff with each crya baby post made.
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quote:Originally posted by Alexander:
Moses will not be joining the AFC. He will remain out of it. But let's assume that he does what is the likely scenario? He will turn against the PPP and will say bad things, which is not new. The same things were said by Teekah, Chandisingh, Harry Lall etc. and where did it get them? The real deal is that the Guyanese nation is not stupid. They know that Moses would be there to feather his nest. The real loser will be Moses in the end as his legacy will be tarnished.
Ultimately, it is Moses to decide what he wants to do...
Alex,
if Moses's motive was feather bedding, one would think the best place would have been with the current cabal and not on the platform of a fledgling party. Remember in 1948 when DR. Jagan turned his back on the powerful MPCA and established BGEA to form GAWU and the PAC cum PPP, it was not on account of a self serving agenda of feather bedding . There comes a moment in a man's life when serious introspection are needed to make bold decision and those decisions could differentiate the bold & brave from the crooks, cowards self servers.
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quote:Originally posted by Mara:
. . . if Moses's motive was feather bedding, one would think the best place would have been with the current cabal and not on the platform of a fledgling party. Remember in 1948 when DR. Jagan turned his back on the powerful MPCA and established BGEA to form GAWU and the PAC cum PPP, it was not on account of a self serving agenda of feather bedding . There comes a moment in a man's life when serious introspection are needed to make bold decision and those decisions could differentiate the bold & brave from the crooks, cowards self servers.
Mara, we've had our lil wars on GNI, and I know for sure that we will probably never see eye to eye on a whole range of issues. But that said, I have nothing but respect for what you are expressing here . . .
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quote:Originally posted by redux:
Mara, we've had our lil wars on GNI, and I know for sure that we will probably never see eye to eye on a whole range of issues. But that said, I have nothing but respect for what you are expressing here . . .
Thanks Redux, but my cyber sling-shots are not meant to maim or disable, and it would be real frightening if ever you and I start to see things eye to eye. don't you think?
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You know I respect your position Uncle Maraquote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
[/QUOTE]Thanks Gerhard. Now remind Moses if he recalled the conversation in December 2003 in his office with the chap from Vancouver ( and 2 others) who commended him for his principled stance in the Jagdeo / Ramjattan imbroglio and predicted then that his future with the PPP is finished unless he takes his battle with Jagdeo openly to the public? As I recalled, that was at least a year before the birth of the AFC.
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He is a vindictive, small minded ninny. Woe is us that came with the authority of the presidency. Our saving grace is we did not select him. The PPP cabal did.quote:Originally posted by Catherine:
I see how some people are speaking against Bharrat Jagdeo, but they don't realize that he had to be strong, at times authoritative to combat old views hindering development.
Do remember he is an economist and first and foremost, he struggled to get rid of the PNC's debt.
He is truly a man who made many sacrifics for the Guyanese people, but he had to deal with some very tough situations. So, do not knock the strength, agility and yes, at times, combative nature of a man whose vision for economic development was at the heart of his agenda.
Sometimes, a leader must be cruel to be kind.
And a degree from Lumumba U does not count for much. It was designed to mint communists rather than scholars.
It is probable a residual psychic injury from a serous ass whopping while growing up that caused you to to come up with the morally deformed piffle about " sometimes leaders must be cruel to be kind". By definition, "cruelty" implies willful injurious behavior directed at others. No rational moral or religious tradition sanctions such behavior. You folks are seriously damaged goods.
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quote:Originally posted by Mara:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
In light of this? Can I say welcome to the AFC to Uncles Churchill, Mara, marlon and Wally, and Jalil?
Thank you Gerhard, but at the end of the day, Mara coming aboard would not yield a handful of ca-ca-belly, a cat-fish nor a green mango for the AFC or any party. I do not have the franchise and I am too far removed from ground zero to make a proper & informed assessment. Nevertheless, if it is any consolation to you, after 19 consecutive years in power and in spite of the palpable economic progress under their watch, the recent behavior and antics of many in the administration has convinced me that they have earned and deserve a hiatus on the opposition benches. Increasingly their arrogance, shamelessness, bare face, bold face and vulgar abuse of power has made it difficult for those with a conscience to ignore or excuse. I hope the ascension of the AFC platform of the likes of Moses, Ragendra, Van West Charles and others would be the shot in the arm that the AFC need. Good luck and best wishes!
If I may, a word of advise; keep some of the chiwawas on a short leash. With premature exuberance and mindless yapping, I believe they are unintentionally causing more harm than good to the cause of the AFC.
did u take your meds yet?
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quote:Originally posted by Catherine:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:Are you serious that you are doubting this, Uncle Alexander, knowing too that it is coming from me? Oh well in a few hours time, Uncle Moses will actually be on the platformquote:Originally posted by Alexander:
He is on the poster but did he publish a statement that he has joined?
If he is on the platform, we know it is all about REVENGE and a final PASSIONATE please to say, 'please boys, accept me nah! Me been in the wilderness too lang."
Moses will only be doing this to be spiteful and the AFC will love it. They only know how to spread false propaganda. With Moses on their side, they will not be gaining; rather, Moses will be losing.... his face, his political life... too bad, so sad.
In the end, the Guyanese people will go to the polls for the PPP/C - a party of prosperity.
so which ppp minister u sleeping with?
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Compare the his income to amount that was invested in building that house and then tell us how it happened on his salary. It took three of us contributing to build a modest home where our family home was and all of us are making many tens of times more on paper than he does.quote:Originally posted by Catherine:
Twenty first century my dear....
Compare Jagdeo's house with the hundreds of newly build houses in this day and age... modernity for you.
Do you know any of the PNC people doing that in their time as the PPP has done in 19 years. They have two exclusive community for their privileged class in the past two decades. I do no know that such ever existed in the PNC era. It is pure corrupt practices that government officials should use state resources to consolidate private elite communities for themselves.
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quote:Originally posted by D2:Compare the his income to amount that was invested in building that house and then tell us how it happened on his salary. It took three of us contributing to build a modest home where our family home was and all of us are making many tens of times more on paper than he does.quote:Originally posted by Catherine:
Twenty first century my dear....
Compare Jagdeo's house with the hundreds of newly build houses in this day and age... modernity for you.
Do you know any of the PNC people doing that in their time as the PPP has done in 19 years. They have two exclusive community for their privileged class in the past two decades. I do no know that such ever existed in the PNC era. It is pure corrupt practices that government officials should use state resources to consolidate private elite communities for themselves.
Burnham had the belfield House.
He own three Hotels. money in swiss bank.
greene bought Peter D'Guiar's House.
You forgot so easily the things the PNC did.
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quote:Originally posted by Mara:quote:Originally posted by redux:
Mara, we've had our lil wars on GNI, and I know for sure that we will probably never see eye to eye on a whole range of issues. But that said, I have nothing but respect for what you are expressing here . . .
Thanks Redux, but my cyber sling-shots are not meant to maim or disable, and it would be real frightening if ever you and I start to see things eye to eye. don't you think?
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quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:Are you serious that you are doubting this, Uncle Alexander, knowing too that it is coming from me? Oh well in a few hours time, Uncle Moses will actually be on the platformquote:Originally posted by Alexander:
He is on the poster but did he publish a statement that he has joined?
Will Moses's name be on the AFC's Electoral list.
I heard that the AFC does not have a full slate of candidates and that is why they resort to begging people to join them. First they throw a wedge the men and their party and then get them thrown out so that they can join up.
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quote:If I may, a word of advise; keep some of the chiwawas on a short leash. With premature exuberance and mindless yapping, I believe they are unintentionally causing more harm than good to the cause of the AFC
GR, this part is true...keep some of these fellas at bay
quote:Originally posted by Alexander:
Bai, it is coming from you but people change all the time. Until Moses issues a statement we have to wait and see.
Meanwhile tie up yuh pants folds.
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quote:Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Burnham had the belfield House.
He own three Hotels. money in swiss bank.
greene bought Peter D'Guiar's House.
You forgot so easily the things the PNC did.
so burnham's thieving makes it ok for jagdeo to do the same? is that really what you're saying?
Former Member
Time for the AFC to follow the trend!
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Ramakant_p:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:Are you serious that you are doubting this, Uncle Alexander, knowing too that it is coming from me? Oh well in a few hours time, Uncle Moses will actually be on the platformquote:Originally posted by Alexander:
He is on the poster but did he publish a statement that he has joined?
Will Moses's name be on the AFC's Electoral list.
I heard that the AFC does not have a full slate of candidates and that is why they resort to begging people to join them. First they throw a wedge the men and their party and then get them thrown out so that they can join up.
Rama, Jagdeo is on his way out. He is still calling the shots behind the scenes right now but he only got a few days more. I am in agreement with Jagdeo and support of Jagdeo. when it comes to (1)The crime situation. These racist criminals were exploiting innocent indians. (2) He tried to build an independent identity in the party away from the dominant Jagan way of thinking which has a strangle hold on the minds of most PPP supporters.
What I don't like about the man is that bloody big house of his and that massive pension. It will take an army of cleaners to keep that house clean and it will take him another fortune to upkeep the house over the years with all the repairs. Guess who will be paying for that. The Guyanese tax payers.
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An hole an to yuh sacks an bucta!quote:Originally posted by Mitwah:quote:Originally posted by Alexander:
Bai, it is coming from you but people change all the time. Until Moses issues a statement we have to wait and see.
Meanwhile tie up yuh pants folds.
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