Imran posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:I was against them asking for it 3 years out from production and only on one well but 2 years out and on two wells with potentials for a couple of billions a year in income to do what they want and no debt.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Please explain.
Somebody loosing there mind .
Your mama or her kid?
D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:I was against them asking for it 3 years out from production and only on one well but 2 years out and on two wells with potentials for a couple of billions a year in income to do what they want and no debt.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Please explain.
They were about to request a substantial advance from Exxon but held back because of the outrage after floating the idea. That was a year ago when we had one potential well. We have two now. Exxon said they are on queue to begin pumping in two years. That would be over 3 million a day in income by some accounting. They can ask for a half a billion advance to begin infrastructural planning...the road to brazil etc.
I want them to lay out the infrastructure for money management since they seem to engage the Norweigans to do so and are intent to follow closely the Santiago protocol for Sovereign Wealth Fund creation. I do not trust the PPP to do that. They would have ashne and his wife managing it as they pump the cash into Orlando.
I don't think the PPP is the answer to the PNC. I think they are both destructive elements to Guyana. I have said that for many years and continue to do so.
From what I understand Guyana will not be seeing any money for a while because Exxon will first have to recoup its exploration costs which I understand is in US$ billionS. At some point, Guyana will be responsible for taking its share of the oil production at the well head an will have to ship it, refine it and sell it to make its money. I am not sure how prepared Guyana is to handle this logistics. I don't have faith in the current crop on both sides to do a good job.
VVP posted:D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:I was against them asking for it 3 years out from production and only on one well but 2 years out and on two wells with potentials for a couple of billions a year in income to do what they want and no debt.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Please explain.
They were about to request a substantial advance from Exxon but held back because of the outrage after floating the idea. That was a year ago when we had one potential well. We have two now. Exxon said they are on queue to begin pumping in two years. That would be over 3 million a day in income by some accounting. They can ask for a half a billion advance to begin infrastructural planning...the road to brazil etc.
I want them to lay out the infrastructure for money management since they seem to engage the Norweigans to do so and are intent to follow closely the Santiago protocol for Sovereign Wealth Fund creation. I do not trust the PPP to do that. They would have ashne and his wife managing it as they pump the cash into Orlando.
I don't think the PPP is the answer to the PNC. I think they are both destructive elements to Guyana. I have said that for many years and continue to do so.
From what I understand Guyana will not be seeing any money for a while because Exxon will first have to recoup its exploration costs which I understand is in US$ billionS. At some point, Guyana will be responsible for taking its share of the oil production at the well head an will have to ship it, refine it and sell it to make its money. I am not sure how prepared Guyana is to handle this logistics. I don't have faith in the current crop on both sides to do a good job.
I do not know the lease but I hope the PPP are not stupid to let such a contract pass them. Cost could be spread across the life of the well. Note Exxon is giving us 12% on a barrel and on each barrel they will make ten times the crude cost. Note oil increases in volume and in value with processing.
I believe they will see money immediately because those kinds of deals where recouping cost upfront has been badly in disrepute. Also, trump has promised complete tax credit on capital expenditure so they will not hurt with paying up front. We need to see the contract.
Also, it is not billions but in the hundreds of millions if one takes what CGX expensed as a cue. That is a few months pumping.
D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:I was against them asking for it 3 years out from production and only on one well but 2 years out and on two wells with potentials for a couple of billions a year in income to do what they want and no debt.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Please explain.
They were about to request a substantial advance from Exxon but held back because of the outrage after floating the idea. That was a year ago when we had one potential well. We have two now. Exxon said they are on queue to begin pumping in two years. That would be over 3 million a day in income by some accounting. They can ask for a half a billion advance to begin infrastructural planning...the road to brazil etc.
I want them to lay out the infrastructure for money management since they seem to engage the Norweigans to do so and are intent to follow closely the Santiago protocol for Sovereign Wealth Fund creation. I do not trust the PPP to do that. They would have ashne and his wife managing it as they pump the cash into Orlando.
I don't think the PPP is the answer to the PNC. I think they are both destructive elements to Guyana. I have said that for many years and continue to do so.
From what I understand Guyana will not be seeing any money for a while because Exxon will first have to recoup its exploration costs which I understand is in US$ billionS. At some point, Guyana will be responsible for taking its share of the oil production at the well head an will have to ship it, refine it and sell it to make its money. I am not sure how prepared Guyana is to handle this logistics. I don't have faith in the current crop on both sides to do a good job.
I do not know the lease but I hope the PPP are not stupid to let such a contract pass them. Cost could be spread across the life of the well. Note Exxon is giving us 12% on a barrel and on each barrel they will make ten times the crude cost. Note oil products increases in volume and in price with processing.
I believe they will see money immediately because those kinds of deals where recouping cost upfront has been badly in disrepute. Also, trump has promised complete tax credit on capital expenditure so they will not hurt with paying up front. We need to see the contract.
Also, it is not billions but in the hundreds of millions if one takes what CGX expenses as a cue. That is a few months pumping.
Again, I think the payment is in oil at the well head NOT $. Guyana will have to do what it wants with the oil. I saw US$ billion exploration cost somewhere. It cannot be compared to CGX who found nothing.
VVP posted:D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:I was against them asking for it 3 years out from production and only on one well but 2 years out and on two wells with potentials for a couple of billions a year in income to do what they want and no debt.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Please explain.
They were about to request a substantial advance from Exxon but held back because of the outrage after floating the idea. That was a year ago when we had one potential well. We have two now. Exxon said they are on queue to begin pumping in two years. That would be over 3 million a day in income by some accounting. They can ask for a half a billion advance to begin infrastructural planning...the road to brazil etc.
I want them to lay out the infrastructure for money management since they seem to engage the Norweigans to do so and are intent to follow closely the Santiago protocol for Sovereign Wealth Fund creation. I do not trust the PPP to do that. They would have ashne and his wife managing it as they pump the cash into Orlando.
I don't think the PPP is the answer to the PNC. I think they are both destructive elements to Guyana. I have said that for many years and continue to do so.
From what I understand Guyana will not be seeing any money for a while because Exxon will first have to recoup its exploration costs which I understand is in US$ billionS. At some point, Guyana will be responsible for taking its share of the oil production at the well head an will have to ship it, refine it and sell it to make its money. I am not sure how prepared Guyana is to handle this logistics. I don't have faith in the current crop on both sides to do a good job.
I do not know the lease but I hope the PPP are not stupid to let such a contract pass them. Cost could be spread across the life of the well. Note Exxon is giving us 12% on a barrel and on each barrel they will make ten times the crude cost. Note oil products increases in volume and in price with processing.
I believe they will see money immediately because those kinds of deals where recouping cost upfront has been badly in disrepute. Also, trump has promised complete tax credit on capital expenditure so they will not hurt with paying up front. We need to see the contract.
Also, it is not billions but in the hundreds of millions if one takes what CGX expenses as a cue. That is a few months pumping.
Again, I think the payment is in oil at the well head NOT $. Guyana will have to do what it wants with the oil. I saw US$ billion exploration cost somewhere. It cannot be compared to CGX who found nothing.
we will be stupid to take payment in crude. No one does that not even the crook Obaing. He got the payments is regular deposit at Riggs at one time. The PPP would have done the same.
Note, Trump stripped the regulation that companies have to disclose what is paid to foreign governments! Riggs was fined for accepting money in a private account for a dictator. That is no longer illegal. Exxon can deposit payments in an account any place and we would never know.
Mar 05, 2017 News 0 Comments
Under the agreement signed between the government and ExxonMobil and its partners, Guyana will be entitled to 50 per cent of the proceeds from whatever oil and gas resources are extracted by the company in the Stabroek Block.
Natural Resources Minister, Raphael Trotman
This is ensured under the Production Sharing Agreement (PSA) which exists between Guyana and the company, according to Minister of Natural Resources Raphael Trotman. The Minister was at the time addressing the media at a breakfast forum organised by his Ministry at the Herdmanston Lodge.
A PSA is usually signed between governments and companies involved in resource extraction to determine how much of that resource the parties will receive.
The Minister said that Guyana may choose to receive its portion in oil after which the country would have to make a decision as to where the oil would be refined. Currently there is a consultancy being done to determine whether Guyana should invest in its own oil refinery.
However, Trotman informed that taking that direction may not be economical in the future. He said that the government is considering sending its share of oil to either Trinidad and Tobago or Suriname.
Trotman informed the media that based on the agreement, Exxon and its partners will share 50 per cent between themselves and the Government of Guyana will share the remaining 50 per cent. According to the Minister this arrangement is not unreasonable.
Further, he stressed that calculating 800 million barrels of oil at a cost of US$50 per barrel should give Guyanese an idea of how much money the country stands to make and the value of the oil. He clarified that the 50 per cent stake will be taken after cost recovery is done.
According to Trotman, the cost of developing the well will have to be taken out first before any division is done.
On the issue of making the contract public, the Minister said that the contract applies to the entire Stabroek Block. Therefore, whatever is found in that area by ExxonMobil and its partners will be subject to that contract.
He added that government has started the process of reviewing the contract in order to update it so that any future arrangement will be contemporary with what is prevailing in the industry. This process he said is being done by both local and foreign experts.
The Minister informed that the contract which was signed in 1999 has maintained largely its original form.
âWe inherited the contract from the former government. Government took the decision to look at but avoided reopening the contract in its entirety for negotiations.
âWe didnât want it to go abroad that Guyana was a place where we didnât respect the sanctity of contracts entered into and we thought it best to preserve what we had found, it was not altogether a bad contract.â
According to country manager of ExxonMobil, Jeff Simons, based on how the contract is written, Guyana will have its share, ExxonMobil will have its share and its partners, Hess and Nexxen Petroleum will have their share.
âSo there will be individual liftings that will go to the tankers and each has the right to move that oil to wherever they want to take it. All the partners have a share.â
As it relates to making the contract public, Trotman said that government at this time is of the view that full disclosure would not be in the national interest.
To justify this position, Trotman made reference to the biblical story of Hezekiah, a king who had exposed the riches of his nation to the Syrians; after which the prophet Isaiah accosted him for exposing all his possessions, telling him that all will be lost.
According to Trotman, Guyana has no army that can stand against a major aggressive force. 
The Minister was making reference to the border controversy Venezuela currently has with Guyana.
âIt (Guyana) has no air-force, it has no navy. We are proceeding this year in a very delicate year. We are possibly headed into a mediated process with a Good Officer appointed by the UN (United Nations) Secretary-General and if by the end of November it shows that there is no likelihood of a negotiated or mediated settlement, we are headed to a juridical settlement of a longstanding claim.â
Trotman said that he would advise President David Granger not to be boastful of what Guyana has in the interest of full disclosure. He said that such information is being recorded and can be used against the government.
However, Trotman assured that the government is prepared to share the salient points of the contract.
Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
Why don't you articulate the need coup. This bordering on idiocy. There is functioning democracy isn't there.
During Burnham and also Jagdeo's reign a coup may have been plausible but it never happened then and not gonna be one now.
VVP posted:ExxonMobil oil agreementâĶGuyana to get 50% of oil or profits
Trotman lies. No one gets that much. Before nationalization, Venezuela was getting 3 cents on a dollar. The PPP cut a deal with CGX for 12 percent. I doubt they would have then turned around and cut a deal with Exxon for 50 percent. Trotman and the APNU are using the PPP contract since to date they have not renegotiated anything.
D2 posted:we will be stupid to take payment in crude. No one does that not even the crook Obaing. He got the payments is regular deposit at Riggs at one time. The PPP would have done the same. Note, Trump stripped the regulation that companies have to disclose what is paid to foreign governments! Riggs was fined for accepting money in a private account for a dictator. That is no longer illegal. Exxon can deposit payments in an account any place and we would never know.
Apparently you have not been keeping abreast of the news out of Guyana else VVP would not have to school you on the matter. As usual you continue to be a bullshyte artist fumbling your way through the discussion without the requisite knowledge.
Drugb posted:D2 posted:we will be stupid to take payment in crude. No one does that not even the crook Obaing. He got the payments is regular deposit at Riggs at one time. The PPP would have done the same. Note, Trump stripped the regulation that companies have to disclose what is paid to foreign governments! Riggs was fined for accepting money in a private account for a dictator. That is no longer illegal. Exxon can deposit payments in an account any place and we would never know.Apparently you have not been keeping abreast of the news out of Guyana else VVP would not have to school you on the matter. As usual you continue to be a bullshyte artist fumbling your way through the discussion without the requisite knowledge.
VJ and I are having a discussion on what is known. No one is measuring head size. I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
D2 posted:VJ and I are having a discussion on what is known. No one is measuring head size. I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
In your haste to jump to conclusion you missed this snipet.
According to country manager of ExxonMobil, Jeff Simons, based on how the contract is written, Guyana will have its share, ExxonMobil will have its share and its partners, Hess and Nexxen Petroleum will have their share.
âSo there will be individual liftings that will go to the tankers and each has the right to move that oil to wherever they want to take it. All the partners have a share.â
Drugb posted:D2 posted:VJ and I are having a discussion on what is known. No one is measuring head size. I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
In your haste to jump to conclusion you missed this snipet.
According to country manager of ExxonMobil, Jeff Simons, based on how the contract is written, Guyana will have its share, ExxonMobil will have its share and its partners, Hess and Nexxen Petroleum will have their share.
âSo there will be individual liftings that will go to the tankers and each has the right to move that oil to wherever they want to take it. All the partners have a share.â
let me repeat... I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
D2 posted:Drugb posted:D2 posted:VJ and I are having a discussion on what is known. No one is measuring head size. I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
In your haste to jump to conclusion you missed this snipet.
According to country manager of ExxonMobil, Jeff Simons, based on how the contract is written, Guyana will have its share, ExxonMobil will have its share and its partners, Hess and Nexxen Petroleum will have their share.
âSo there will be individual liftings that will go to the tankers and each has the right to move that oil to wherever they want to take it. All the partners have a share.âlet me repeat... I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
And what is the basis for your statement? Did you see this in the article also?
He clarified that the 50 per cent stake will be taken after cost recovery is done.
D2 speaks like he is part of the government and he has the solution for Guyana mess , yet in his own admission in a previous topic .. he claims " he writes daily to Stabroek News about Amerindian concern " but the regime don't give a crap about his flowerly concern
VVP posted:D2 posted:Drugb posted:D2 posted:VJ and I are having a discussion on what is known. No one is measuring head size. I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
In your haste to jump to conclusion you missed this snipet.
According to country manager of ExxonMobil, Jeff Simons, based on how the contract is written, Guyana will have its share, ExxonMobil will have its share and its partners, Hess and Nexxen Petroleum will have their share.
âSo there will be individual liftings that will go to the tankers and each has the right to move that oil to wherever they want to take it. All the partners have a share.âlet me repeat... I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
And what is the basis for your statement? Did you see this in the article also?
He clarified that the 50 per cent stake will be taken after cost recovery is done.
The basis is experienced reading documents from other examples in the trade. That he clarified 50 percent stake is bunk. The PPP would not ask for 50 percent here and 12 percent from CGX. Kari posted elements of the the CGX here awhile back. Not Exxon or any other oil company...none has ever paid anyone 50 percent in any of the readings I covered in investigating this. The fite with Venezuela was their demand for 30%
Imran posted:D2 speaks like he is part of the government and he has the solution for Guyana mess , yet in his own admission in a previous topic .. he claims " he writes daily to Stabroek News about Amerindian concern " but the regime don't give a crap about his flowerly concern
I speak from investigating the subject like any curious person should. If Trotman said we are getting 50 percent I state that beyond doubt he lies. My concern is not what the regime think of me but what the do and it should be your concern also if you had a thinking head on your shoulders.
BTW the oil is at 3000 meters which make it a complete impossibility for such rates...we would be getting 4 to 8 percent here all things being equal
D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:let me repeat... I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
And what is the basis for your statement? Did you see this in the article also?
He clarified that the 50 per cent stake will be taken after cost recovery is done.
The basis is experienced reading documents from other examples in the trade. That he clarified 50 percent stake is bunk. The PPP would not ask for 50 percent here and 12 percent from CGX. Kari posted elements of the the CGS here awhile back. No Exxon or any other oil company...none has ever paid anyone 50 percent in any of the readings I covered in investigating this. The fite with Venezuela was their demand for 30%
The 50 per cent stake after cost recovery will result in less than 50% of the overall take. Lets say the overall life yield is $100 million and cost recovery is $80 million then Guyana will get 50% of $20 million = $10 million, which means over the entire yield Guyana will only get 10/100 = 10%.
See what I am saying? It is also clear that Guyana is taking the crude that why Trotman is shopping for place where to refine it.
VVP posted:D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:let me repeat... I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
And what is the basis for your statement? Did you see this in the article also?
He clarified that the 50 per cent stake will be taken after cost recovery is done.
The basis is experienced reading documents from other examples in the trade. That he clarified 50 percent stake is bunk. The PPP would not ask for 50 percent here and 12 percent from CGX. Kari posted elements of the the CGS here awhile back. No Exxon or any other oil company...none has ever paid anyone 50 percent in any of the readings I covered in investigating this. The fite with Venezuela was their demand for 30%
The 50 per cent stake after cost recovery will result in less than 50% of the overall take. Lets say the overall life yield is $100 million and cost recovery is $80 million then Guyana will get 50% of $20 million = $10 million, which means over the entire yield Guyana will only get 10/100 = 10%.
See what I am saying? It is also clear that Guyana is taking the crude that why Trotman is shopping for place where to refine it.
That kind of contract in the movie or music industry would be "daddy gone Hollywood". Who takes a cut after accounting? Eddie murphy movie "Coming to America" was a stolen script and the fellow they stole it from was to get his cut after expense. Poor fellow died not seeing a dime and I bet no one else has as yet. We will barely scrape by with one or two percent per barrel of crude if that is the case. This is a PPP stupid deal again.
We should also not be trying to build a refinery...that is idiocy. We should go modular with mini-refineries. It is not like we will be producing by-products ie mineral oil and petrolatum for the major markets. We cannot even diversify sugar and these fools will tell us we are to become resellers of petroleum products?
D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:VVP posted:D2 posted:let me repeat... I am stating emphatically that we are not accepting crude as payment with no infrastructure to deal with it nor are we getting 50 percent of the take. Both of those circumstances are unbelievable. The first would be stupid and the latter is clearly fiction.
And what is the basis for your statement? Did you see this in the article also?
He clarified that the 50 per cent stake will be taken after cost recovery is done.
The basis is experienced reading documents from other examples in the trade. That he clarified 50 percent stake is bunk. The PPP would not ask for 50 percent here and 12 percent from CGX. Kari posted elements of the the CGS here awhile back. No Exxon or any other oil company...none has ever paid anyone 50 percent in any of the readings I covered in investigating this. The fite with Venezuela was their demand for 30%
The 50 per cent stake after cost recovery will result in less than 50% of the overall take. Lets say the overall life yield is $100 million and cost recovery is $80 million then Guyana will get 50% of $20 million = $10 million, which means over the entire yield Guyana will only get 10/100 = 10%.
See what I am saying? It is also clear that Guyana is taking the crude that why Trotman is shopping for place where to refine it.
That kind of contract in the movie or music industry would be "daddy gone Hollywood". Who takes a cut after accounting? Eddie murphy movie "Coming to America" was a stolen script and the fellow they stole it from was to get his cut after expense. Poor fellow died not seeing a dime and I bet no one else has as yet. We will barely scrape by with one or two percent per barrel of crude if that is the case. This is a PPP stupid deal again.
We should also not be trying to build a refinery...that is idiocy. We should go modular with mini-refineries. It is not like we will be producing by-products ie mineral oil and petrolatum for the major markets. We cannot even diversify sugar and these fools will tell us we are to become resellers of petroleum products?
Exxon is know to be a robber so don't expect much for Guyana. Then the politicians will take their cut and nothing will be left for development. This happened in many other countries. Of course, the PNC will used the oil to keep hope alive.
I do hope it works out, but without good people to look after Guyana's interest we will be swindled by Exxon. People need to understand how these multinationals work.
Bibi Haniffa posted:D2 posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
Granger is doing just fine despite his trudging ways and Jesus persona. The nation is not sinking into the sea nor are people in starvation lines. It is just the PPP missing their slurping at the nations trough. They are just itching all over at the possibility they can get hold of the state so they can pump all the oil cash into their pockets.
Oh yes, the country is heading to bankruptcy and Granger is doing just fine.
D2 is supporting all of the incompetence and thieving ways of the PNC.
He needs to have his eyes checked.
Imran posted:D2 speaks like he is part of the government and he has the solution for Guyana mess , yet in his own admission in a previous topic .. he claims " he writes daily to Stabroek News about Amerindian concern " but the regime don't give a crap about his flowerly concern
D2 lacks credibility by supporting a bunch of PNC thugs. He needs to present a much more balanced assessment of the terrible situation in Guyana to win back some credibility.
He posted today that Granger is doing just fine, imagine that.
The Emperor has no clothes.
yuji22 posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:D2 posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
Granger is doing just fine despite his trudging ways and Jesus persona. The nation is not sinking into the sea nor are people in starvation lines. It is just the PPP missing their slurping at the nations trough. They are just itching all over at the possibility they can get hold of the state so they can pump all the oil cash into their pockets.
Oh yes, the country is heading to bankruptcy and Granger is doing just fine.
D2 is supporting all of the incompetence and thieving ways of the PNC.
He needs to have his eyes checked.
One mangy dog vs another...this one has less flees!
yuji22 posted:Imran posted:D2 speaks like he is part of the government and he has the solution for Guyana mess , yet in his own admission in a previous topic .. he claims " he writes daily to Stabroek News about Amerindian concern " but the regime don't give a crap about his flowerly concern
D2 lacks credibility by supporting a bunch of PNC thugs. He needs to present a much more balanced assessment of the terrible situation in Guyana to win back some credibility.
He posted today that Granger is doing just fine, imagine that.
The Emperor has no clothes.
Indeed he is doing just fine. I see none of his friends and family getting large tracts of lands, plum positions in the state etc. I do not see him organising any phantom gangs etc. If he has stolen anything it does not seem to breach the political event horizon. I prefer him for another five year than to re experience the cooked PPP.
Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
Prashad posted:East Indians lives are too precious to be wasted on nonsense. We will get our own country peacefully.
East Indians arent the only people in guyana you know, u should be championing for the betterment of all guyanese and not be selective to one race only.
Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
Some folks assume only the PPP capable of accomplished that,they had 23 yrs time for some else to show their mettle,let the people decide if the new Captain is no good.
Django posted:Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
I think you still sleeping
Imran posted:Django posted:Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
I think you still sleeping
You think suh.
Oh...I forget to add the Underworld and their Economy.
Django posted:Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
Some folks assume only the PPP capable of accomplished that,they had 23 yrs time for some else to show their mettle,let the people decide if the new Captain is no good.
Hey Django,
Who the hell gave these companies rights to drill for oil off Guyana's shores ? Many in the PNC and at GNI were poking fun at the PPP when these rights were given claiming that Guyana does not have oil.
PPP or PNC ?
The PNC will build a toilet only when they need to use an outhouse. They are not thinkers and achievers, they are a Dog Shyte Administration.
PPP is progressive. The PNC has done shyte for Guyana so far, they are sitting on their hands waiting on oil.
SMH.
yuji22 posted:Django posted:Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
Some folks assume only the PPP capable of accomplished that,they had 23 yrs time for some else to show their mettle,let the people decide if the new Captain is no good.
Hey Django,
Who the hell gave these companies rights to drill for oil off Guyana's shores ? Many in the PNC and at GNI were poking fun at the PPP when these rights were given claiming that Guyana does not have oil.
PPP or PNC ?
The PNC will build a toilet only when they need to use an outhouse. They are not thinkers and achievers, they are a Dog Shyte Administration.
PPP is progressive. The PNC has done shyte for Guyana so far, they are sitting on their hands waiting on oil.
SMH.
This is their second run let see what happens,the people will decide.
You forget Madburro chase out the first oil rigg,and they tucked their tail "you know where"
doan mek yuh head fall off.
yuji22 posted:Django posted:Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
Some folks assume only the PPP capable of accomplished that,they had 23 yrs time for some else to show their mettle,let the people decide if the new Captain is no good.
Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
skeldon_man posted:Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
Likewise.
Skelly,i understand what you are saying,Guyana will need a good oversight body to make sure the "kleptocrats" don't steal,you are aware Guyanese are not stuppidy people.
I think we have to give it chance "Sugar Industry" is a major problem,sacrifice have to be made for it to survive,me thinks Gov't should give the affected workers some form of "stipend " until the Industry break even.
Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
Likewise.
Skelly,i understand what you are saying,Guyana will need a good oversight body to make sure the "kleptocrats" don't steal,you are aware Guyanese are not stuppidy people.
I think we have to give it chance "Sugar Industry" is a major problem,sacrifice have to be made for it to survive,me thinks Gov't should give the affected workers some form of "stipend " until the Industry break even.
An example of what is to come, just analyse Nigeria.
skeldon_man posted:yuji22 posted:Django posted:Cobra posted:Amral posted:What are the chances that it could happen one day in Guyana. Granger has had his chance and he and his Administration blew it. Its time to see an uprising
A coup is always a possibility, but not when Granger took control of the army that even Ramjattan cant try it. Plus, the American is known to replace legitimate leaders with dictator and vise versa, when its convenient to them. Guyana oil will be a game changer, but Guyanese will suffer the same a decade from today under the coalition. That's the unfortunate truth.
How will they suffer when oil start flowing,population is under 750,000.
Solid investment in,Infrastructure,Electricity,Education,Health Services,Information Technology,Expansion in Agriculture in to other crops,Cleaner and smaller Gov't,I can go on and on the people will be happy.
Some folks assume only the PPP capable of accomplished that,they had 23 yrs time for some else to show their mettle,let the people decide if the new Captain is no good.
Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
Yuh talking about the video posted where the Black pastor repeated the same things.
I think Guyana will be the sameway. It appears, it is aready there.
seignet posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
Likewise.
Skelly,i understand what you are saying,Guyana will need a good oversight body to make sure the "kleptocrats" don't steal,you are aware Guyanese are not stuppidy people.
I think we have to give it chance "Sugar Industry" is a major problem,sacrifice have to be made for it to survive,me thinks Gov't should give the affected workers some form of "stipend " until the Industry break even.
An example of what is to come, just analyse Nigeria.
We will find out bro,i am always "Optimistic"
Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
Likewise.
Skelly,i understand what you are saying,Guyana will need a good oversight body to make sure the "kleptocrats" don't steal,you are aware Guyanese are not stuppidy people.
I think we have to give it chance "Sugar Industry" is a major problem,sacrifice have to be made for it to survive,me thinks Gov't should give the affected workers some form of "stipend " until the Industry break even.
They give breaks to people who fill their pockets. Sounds familiar? Your kleptocrats are in office now, let them now how you feel instead of spreading fake news.
Django posted:seignet posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Django, Good Sataday mannin. Bai you should understand how Exxon signed the Equatorial Guinea deal that would deposit the oil revenues in personal accounts of the government upper class. Those people are still suffering from malnutrition. You see kids with bloated guts, broomsticks legs, kids with their ribs stuck to their skin...basically like a starving Guyana dog. Those days are almost in Guyana. PPP never had oil, but the people never suffered.
Likewise.
Skelly,i understand what you are saying,Guyana will need a good oversight body to make sure the "kleptocrats" don't steal,you are aware Guyanese are not stuppidy people.
I think we have to give it chance "Sugar Industry" is a major problem,sacrifice have to be made for it to survive,me thinks Gov't should give the affected workers some form of "stipend " until the Industry break even.
An example of what is to come, just analyse Nigeria.
We will find out bro,i am always "Optimistic"
The very basic indication of the revenues being used for the benefit of the citizens is simply not there. Those countries that utilizes their petrol dollars have systems in place. Venezulea with all it resources has yet to put structures in place to benefit the citizens.
With the oil in the sea, stealing it would not be easy. Suh the next best thing is not to have a proper accounting procedure. This way no one knows what is going on. Nigeria is an example for us.
So far, no government in Guyana has ever moved in the direction of developing an ordered country.
With chaos, it is easy to embizzle.
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