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Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Pretty soon anything with a black flag will be a bulls eye. One of the by products of ISIS is that it give us an insight as to who are the locally grown idiots willing to become terrorist fighters and sympathizers.

Kill all ISIS. Take no prisoners.

The world already knows that they cannot be allowed to hold territory. The Sunnis sheiks need to be assured that their complicity with ISIS will come at a price. Sunni Arab states will be forced to make their voices heard.

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

what absurd bullshit! These bestial creatures emerged out of a rabid brand of political Islam bent on world domination on their own recently. Muslims are always yapping about Islam dominating the world these fellows want to do it via terror and murder. Given they are evil, in five years time they will be back to hiding in the bulrushes and spouting their venom from obscure caves.  They or any organization of their ilk will never be allowed to hold territory. We are mapping the world and there are drones with almost endless scouting lifetimes that will hunt on endless via electronic and physical signatures in every fissure on the planet however remote.

FM
Last edited by Former Member

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

Chief
Last edited by Chief
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

what absurd bullshit! These bestial creatures emerged out of a rabid brand of political Islam bent on world domination on their own recently. Muslims are always yapping about Islam dominating the world these fellows want to do it via terror and murder. Given they are evil, in five years time they will be back to hiding in the bulrushes and spouting their venom from obscure caves.  They or any organization of their ilk will never be allowed to hold territory. We are mapping the world and there are drones with almost endless scouting lifetimes that will hunt on endless via electronic and physical signatures in every fissure on the planet however remote.

What is the irony here. The bad guys like ISIS will be wiped out and pure Islam keep growing.

 

Don't fool yourself Islam does not permit any of the nonsense that ICIS ARE COMMITTING.

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

what absurd bullshit! These bestial creatures emerged out of a rabid brand of political Islam bent on world domination on their own recently. Muslims are always yapping about Islam dominating the world these fellows want to do it via terror and murder. Given they are evil, in five years time they will be back to hiding in the bulrushes and spouting their venom from obscure caves.  They or any organization of their ilk will never be allowed to hold territory. We are mapping the world and there are drones with almost endless scouting lifetimes that will hunt on endless via electronic and physical signatures in every fissure on the planet however remote.

What is the irony here. The bad guys like ISIS will be wiped out and pure Islam keep growing.

 

Don't fool yourself Islam does not permit any of the nonsense that ICIS ARE COMMITTING.

I am at a loss to know what is pure Islam. I guess that is like catholic Catholic. What Islam permits is a bunch of nutcases shouting Allah hu akbar while slitting the throat of a non muslim or executing a woman and child. It certainly does not constrain it if one is to take the counterpoint for argument sake.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

I am at a loss to know what is pure Islam. I guess that is like catholic Catholic. What Islam permits is a bunch of nutcases shouting Allah hu akbar while slitting the throat of a non muslim or executing a woman and child. It certainly does not constrain it if one is to take the counterpoint for argument sake.

You are nota dunce neither  at a loss you are playing the fool!! 

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. In two weeks he removed a dictator who his father should have taken out. The rest is history....confused subaltern masses not able to grasp what it is to govern without being whacked on the head with a stick lead to the present dysfunction. Add to that the primordial schism in Islam, Shia vs Sunni and you have chaos. Note the Kurds who never thought the would have a place they can call Kurdistan prevailed, survived and flourish. The sectarian Muslim section, despite a billion a month spend in building roads, wells, and other associated infrastructure not to mention governing capacity etc imploded!

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

I am at a loss to know what is pure Islam. I guess that is like catholic Catholic. What Islam permits is a bunch of nutcases shouting Allah hu akbar while slitting the throat of a non muslim or executing a woman and child. It certainly does not constrain it if one is to take the counterpoint for argument sake.

You are nota dunce neither  at a loss you are playing the fool!! 

I never play the fool. I am telling you straight up what you do not like to hear. Islam like all religion has its latent structural flaws. After all, it is a religion!

 

There is no pure Islam ...that is the myth in your head. These fellows will possibly string you up for being a heretic just because you called them un-Islamic!

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. 

 

So deal with the consequenses, plain and simple!!!

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. 

 

So deal with the consequenses, plain and simple!!!

The world always deal with what comes up that needs to be excised lease its diseased aspects contaminate the rest of us. Ebola is here because of our intrusions into the rain forest. We are dealing with it. These vermin arose in the desert like locusts and we are formulating the right insecticide.

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

what absurd bullshit! These bestial creatures emerged out of a rabid brand of political Islam bent on world domination on their own recently. Muslims are always yapping about Islam dominating the world these fellows want to do it via terror and murder. Given they are evil, in five years time they will be back to hiding in the bulrushes and spouting their venom from obscure caves.  They or any organization of their ilk will never be allowed to hold territory. We are mapping the world and there are drones with almost endless scouting lifetimes that will hunt on endless via electronic and physical signatures in every fissure on the planet however remote.

What is the irony here. The bad guys like ISIS will be wiped out and pure Islam keep growing.

 

Don't fool yourself Islam does not permit any of the nonsense that ICIS ARE COMMITTING.

I would suspect Islam behaved the same way 1500 years ago. All you have to do, is read up on their atroscities in India. They did dispicable acts back in the 1300's.

S
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

I am at a loss to know what is pure Islam. I guess that is like catholic Catholic. What Islam permits is a bunch of nutcases shouting Allah hu akbar while slitting the throat of a non muslim or executing a woman and child. It certainly does not constrain it if one is to take the counterpoint for argument sake.

You are nota dunce neither  at a loss you are playing the fool!! 

I never play the fool. I am telling you straight up what you do not like to hear. Islam like all religion has its latent structural flaws. After all, it is a religion!

 

There is no pure Islam ...that is the myth in your head. These fellows will possibly string you up for being a heretic just because you called them un-Islamic!

Pure Islamic teachings will not allow me to be stringed up.

 

You and others included the media is milking this for all it is to paint Islam in a bad light.

 

The ISIS's will come and go and oin the meantime Islam is spreading and Iam not tooting my horn here. Lot's of non muslims are trying to find out what is Islam( D2 YOU KNOW WHAT IS iSLAM) and once they discover they convert.

 

 

Chief
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. 

 

So deal with the consequenses, plain and simple!!!

The world always deal with what comes up that needs to be excised lease its diseased aspects contaminate the rest of us. Ebola is here because of our intrusions into the rain forest. We are dealing with it. These vermin arose in the desert like locusts and we are formulating the right insecticide.

D2,

Why everytime you get cornered you go off on a tangent?

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

I am at a loss to know what is pure Islam. I guess that is like catholic Catholic. What Islam permits is a bunch of nutcases shouting Allah hu akbar while slitting the throat of a non muslim or executing a woman and child. It certainly does not constrain it if one is to take the counterpoint for argument sake.

You are nota dunce neither  at a loss you are playing the fool!! 

I never play the fool. I am telling you straight up what you do not like to hear. Islam like all religion has its latent structural flaws. After all, it is a religion!

 

There is no pure Islam ...that is the myth in your head. These fellows will possibly string you up for being a heretic just because you called them un-Islamic!

Pure Islamic teachings will not allow me to be stringed up.

 

You and others included the media is milking this for all it is to paint Islam in a bad light.

 

The ISIS's will come and go and in the meantime Islam is spreading and Iam not tooting my horn here. Lot's of non muslims are trying to find out what is Islam( D2 YOU KNOW WHAT IS iSLAM) and once they discover they convert.

 

 

As I said "pure islam" is what whoever is making the claim attests to. Of course like you they will have lines of argument why theirs is pure. That is the way of the God deluded. The adherent elaborating the dogma is always the one who knows best and who distills out the purest doctrine!

 

Of course I do not know what Islam is! I do not know why my little finger moves but yet it does! Maybe you can help me there! Straight up the usual religious zealot's nonsense. 

 

The world has met Islam in over a millennium and a half and it is still less than half  the population of god bunkers like myself with no book with immaculate script to guide us!

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
There is no pure Islam ...that is the myth in your head.

There is pure Islam, similar to all other religions.

 

Like other religions, there are subgroups.

 

Specific to the current issue of Islam, it has been proven clearly in numerous authentic writings that the militants conducting issues which are predominant in the news amount to less than one - 1% - of the Muslim population.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
There is no pure Islam ...that is the myth in your head.

There is pure Islam, similar to all other religions.

 

Like other religions, there are subgroups.

 

Specific to the current issue of Islam, it has been proven clearly in numerous authentic writings that the militants conducting issues which are predominant in the news amount to less than one - 1% - of the Muslim population.

To be exact it is even less than that if you use the 1.2 billion muslim worldwide.

Chief
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

what absurd bullshit! These bestial creatures emerged out of a rabid brand of political Islam bent on world domination on their own recently. Muslims are always yapping about Islam dominating the world these fellows want to do it via terror and murder. Given they are evil, in five years time they will be back to hiding in the bulrushes and spouting their venom from obscure caves.  They or any organization of their ilk will never be allowed to hold territory. We are mapping the world and there are drones with almost endless scouting lifetimes that will hunt on endless via electronic and physical signatures in every fissure on the planet however remote.

Storm,

This is one time to pause and see what Chief is saying. You're missing a vital nuance about the Arab world - they hate extremist Islam (a tiny minority) but when they see what followed 9/11 they remain silent by the American destruction on the one hand and the extremists' coercion on the other. American foreign policy following 9/11 was led by Curveball and Maliki. Bush outsourced it to these two characters because he knew nothing about the middle east. He knew nothing even before 9/11 when he looked at Condi Rice "Bin Laden determined to strike America in Aug 2001).

 

Chief is not posting "absurd bullshit". You don't hate those Islamic goons more that I do or Chief, but we have different responses. Parse what Chief says quietly.

Kari
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Django:
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

Chief,you have to lighten up ISIS no good.

The problem with Chief is one that is common with old Muslim men. Anything Muslim is good and sacred.

Pandit, this thread is above your head. Just read and learn.

Kari
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. 

 

So deal with the consequenses, plain and simple!!!

The world always deal with what comes up that needs to be excised lease its diseased aspects contaminate the rest of us. Ebola is here because of our intrusions into the rain forest. We are dealing with it. These vermin arose in the desert like locusts and we are formulating the right insecticide.

D2,

Why everytime you get cornered you go off on a tangent?

Cornered...I am running in on the pampas here. You folks do not have a damn thing to constrain me to the idea of a pure religion whose doctrine constrains one to good sense. These fellows claim to be muslims. They all probably went as proper muslims to the local mosque, banged their head into the dust five times daily, starved for one month a year and whacked their wives and daughters to cover their heads and be modest. yet here they are slaughtering non muslims, killing muslims who disagree with them ( entire shiadom would be put to the blade if the chance arise) so what the hell are you telling me this is a consequence of some injury to them done by the west! They are involved in internecine warfare on a grand and obscenely barbaric scale! Wake up!

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:
 

D2,

Why everytime you get cornered you go off on a tangent?

Cornered...I am running in on the pampas here. You folks do not have a damn thing to constrain me to the idea of a pure religion whose doctrine constrains one to good sense. These fellows claim to be muslims. They all probably went as proper muslims to the local mosque, banged their head into the dust five times daily, starved for one month a year and whacked their wives and daughters to cover their heads and be modest. yet here they are slaughtering non muslims, killing muslims who disagree with them ( entire shiadom would be put to the blade if the chance arise) so what the hell are you telling me this is a consequence of some injury to them done by the west! They are involved in internecine warfare on a grand and obscenely barbaric scale! Wake up!

Now Iam convinced that Demerara Guy is correct in his analysis.

Chief
Last edited by Chief
Originally Posted by Wally:

Question to ask.

 

Where is this group getting the money from to buy all that equipment and feed/pay all those fighters.  I would not be suprised if this group is just a scam by some rich and politically connected folk to send up the oil price further.

From the "Pure Muslims" in Saudi Arabia and Qatar who want to spread their version of "Pure Islam".

Mars
Last edited by Mars
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

 

This is the result of George Bush eveil war.

 

 

ever hear this

"Another Rasta will take my place."

what absurd bullshit! These bestial creatures emerged out of a rabid brand of political Islam bent on world domination on their own recently. Muslims are always yapping about Islam dominating the world these fellows want to do it via terror and murder. Given they are evil, in five years time they will be back to hiding in the bulrushes and spouting their venom from obscure caves.  They or any organization of their ilk will never be allowed to hold territory. We are mapping the world and there are drones with almost endless scouting lifetimes that will hunt on endless via electronic and physical signatures in every fissure on the planet however remote.

Storm,

This is one time to pause and see what Chief is saying. You're missing a vital nuance about the Arab world - they hate extremist Islam (a tiny minority) but when they see what followed 9/11 they remain silent by the American destruction on the one hand and the extremists' coercion on the other. American foreign policy following 9/11 was led by Curveball and Maliki. Bush outsourced it to these two characters because he knew nothing about the middle east. He knew nothing even before 9/11 when he looked at Condi Rice "Bin Laden determined to strike America in Aug 2001).

 

Chief is not posting "absurd bullshit". You don't hate those Islamic goons more that I do or Chief, but we have different responses. Parse what Chief says quietly.

Dude, chief is telling me of some elixer he knows called "pure islam". That is his opiate. He claims if I met it I would be instanty converted! That again is his own belief.

 

I know if a person takes a dose of heroin or pure cocaine or ecstasy they will feel good and of course be addicted instantly. I am prudent to avoid the opiates!I am similarly prudent to avoid the ridiculous character of habituation to ritual that is religion. I do not need it for my ethics.

 

American did not make those people. They made themselves. If they were possessed of the virtuous book they surely do not show the precepts it supposedly exposes. As much as I am aware of the some of the prescriptions for heretics in Abraham religions I am sure no one in their good mind at this time and age to follow them. Those fellows are simply vicious, and for lack of a better analogy, denizens of hell. They are to sent back into the pit with all the fire a tomahawk or a daisy cutter can deliver. Again, no one made them. They made themselves.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. In two weeks he removed a dictator who his father should have taken out. The rest is history....confused subaltern masses not able to grasp what it is to govern without being whacked on the head with a stick lead to the present dysfunction. Add to that the primordial schism in Islam, Shia vs Sunni and you have chaos. Note the Kurds who never thought the would have a place they can call Kurdistan prevailed, survived and flourish. The sectarian Muslim section, despite a billion a month spend in building roads, wells, and other associated infrastructure not to mention governing capacity etc imploded!

Storm, go learn history. Bush was overwhelmed by an Iraqi businessman who lived outside the country for decades but who got Bush to put Shiites in control over Sunni. That's Curveball BTW. Now it's not some Suni/Shiite schism, as you put it. Maliki then came along and wit Bush's Ambassador to Iraq launched a de-Baathification. Think about if AFC comes to power in Guyana and all the PPP people, even brilliant ones (do I hear oxymoron chants?) were mercilessly sent to some Gulag and their property taken away.

 

Storm, just go read up on recent history. It would help.

Kari
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:
 

D2,

Why everytime you get cornered you go off on a tangent?

Cornered...I am running in on the pampas here. You folks do not have a damn thing to constrain me to the idea of a pure religion whose doctrine constrains one to good sense. These fellows claim to be muslims. They all probably went as proper muslims to the local mosque, banged their head into the dust five times daily, starved for one month a year and whacked their wives and daughters to cover their heads and be modest. yet here they are slaughtering non muslims, killing muslims who disagree with them ( entire shiadom would be put to the blade if the chance arise) so what the hell are you telling me this is a consequence of some injury to them done by the west! They are involved in internecine warfare on a grand and obscenely barbaric scale! Wake up!

Now Iam convinced that Demerara Guy is correct in his analysis.

No doubt you would think that way. You cannot force my nose to the sod five times a day so I have to be an idiot! I cannot conceive of the immaculate god with a perfect book so ....damn...am I an Idiot!

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Chief:

The issue is not if ISIS is good or eveil, it's a known fact that they are no fing good.

 

The issue is,   yesterday it was Taliban, then Al Quieda and now ISIS. 

Wasn't George Bush warned that invading iRAQ will have these consequences?

 

I have been saying this sine 9/11 the war on terror is like the war on drugs it has no face.

 

Obama tried to show that he can understand but the dogs of war keep barking.

 

 

George bush may have been tactless in his entry into Iraq. In two weeks he removed a dictator who his father should have taken out. The rest is history....confused subaltern masses not able to grasp what it is to govern without being whacked on the head with a stick lead to the present dysfunction. Add to that the primordial schism in Islam, Shia vs Sunni and you have chaos. Note the Kurds who never thought the would have a place they can call Kurdistan prevailed, survived and flourish. The sectarian Muslim section, despite a billion a month spend in building roads, wells, and other associated infrastructure not to mention governing capacity etc imploded!

Storm, go learn history. Bush was overwhelmed by an Iraqi businessman who lived outside the country for decades but who got Bush to put Shiites in control over Sunni. That's Curveball BTW. Now it's not some Suni/Shiite schism, as you put it. Maliki then came along and wit Bush's Ambassador to Iraq launched a de-Baathification. Think about if AFC comes to power in Guyana and all the PPP people, even brilliant ones (do I hear oxymoron chants?) were mercilessly sent to some Gulag and their property taken away.

 

Storm, just go read up on recent history. It would help.

There is no narrative on the planet to explain what is going on there except mass mental break down due to a diseased belief system

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

American did not make those people. They made themselves. If they were possessed of the virtuous book they surely do not show the precepts it supposedly exposes. As much as I am aware of the some of the prescriptions for heretics in Abraham religions I am sure no one in their good mind at this time and age to follow them. Those fellows are simply vicious, and for lack of a better analogy, denizens of hell. They are to sent back into the pit with all the fire a tomahawk or a daisy cutter can deliver. Again, no one made them. They made themselves.

Storm, you agree with what Chief and I are saying - these guys made themselves into what they are. They did not need a holy book just like the southern lynchers did not need one.

 

Now the other part of them making themselves is where we depart. Bush's stupid Iraq invasion and the aftermath is directly responsible for these people making themselves. Why do you think there are so many UK Jihadis?

Kari
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
. They are to sent back into the pit with all the fire a tomahawk or a daisy cutter can deliver. Again, no one made them. They made themselves.

Again you are incorrect, Dick Cheeney andhis  firm that netted billion$$  made them!!

Dude, tell that lie to those want to rationalize the slaughter in the ME. Chaney is a board member of Halliburton. They make a lot of things but not missiles. Maybe Chaney should have anticipated this explosion in need for those tools and retrofit a subsidiary to make them!

FM

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