Don’t worry with these people.  They have nothing else to do with their time. The only reason some of them are on here is because they cannot afford mental health treatment elsewhere. Essequibo is a beautiful place. Enjoy your day.

Zed, thank you for your perspective.  I always respect the views of those living there as they know first hand. I have many relatives there and they have diverse views but I respect them all. 

I agree, we forget the reality of PNC Guyana!!  Regarding Jagdeo, like him or hate him, he is the man of the time.  

Baseman posted:

Zed, thank you for your perspective.  I always respect the views of those living there as they know first hand. I have many relatives there and they have diverse views but I respect them all. 

I agree, we forget the reality of PNC Guyana!!  Regarding Jagdeo, like him or hate him, he is the man of the time.  

Who knows, you're probably speaking to the big guy himself, Dr. BJ.  

ZED for a big man you are a liar and a great pretender.

You came on here and said that you are neutral and not taking any sides. I told you that people like you who sits on the fence get impaled. You could not hide your PPP leanings. You are a diehard PPPite to the core. You hit and run. You asked questions as if you don't live in Guyana; and for  answers you can look up or just make a simple phone call to freedumb house. But you are just too lackadaisical.

Your personal attacks are subtle or masked. 

You pelt one brick and ran away when I confronted you with your PPP record. Here it is again.

Here is your PPP record after 23 years:

•   Failed education system with illiteracy on the rise;
•   Broken health care system;
•   Highest infant/mother mortality rate in the region;
•   Poorest country in the hemisphere;
•   Most corrupt country in the region;
•   Increased racial divisiveness within the last 23 years - state   sponsored;
•   Broken transportation system;
•   Broken electricity system - random and prolonged black outs;
•   Broken road works & bridges - crippling the movement of goods and people;
•   Broken water and sewage system - no and sometimes unsafe piped water;
•   Country in state of dictatorship with the closure of parliament;
•   Rolling back of press freedoms with media being threatened;
•   Extra judicial killings and disappearances on the rise;
•   State sponsored demoralizing of armed services;

Leonora posted:

Baseman posted:

Zed, thank you for your perspective.  I always respect the views of those living there as they know first hand. I have many relatives there and they have diverse views but I respect them all. 

I agree, we forget the reality of PNC Guyana!!  Regarding Jagdeo, like him or hate him, he is the man of the time.  

Who knows, you're probably speaking to the big guy himself, Dr. BJ.  

I have a feeling you are into making trouble here today!

lilibai is lying through his teeth with all his talking points given by his handlers in the pnc/afc. the difference from pnc time pre 92 and the ppp era post 92 is astounding.  

Zed posted:

i was unable to reply to participants’ comments about my post on Jagdeo before the post was closed. ...

.........have a good day, depending on how you define it!

currently on the esseqUibo coast so unsure of connections to make replies. 

 

 

Admittedly there were monumental changes from the Burnham era into the PPP era to now. One must reflect that was because Burnham swung left to communism when his first five year plan failed and  western benefaction came to a stand still. Guyana was not important to the west except it is does not emerge another cuba so we were in a western choke hold. The US did not walk away because he was a dictator. They cuddled many at the same time that did not threaten a communist regime. Like cheddi Burnham lacked vision hence the reason his disciples has to invent  them  for him.

Had the PPP really not concern themselves by enrichment schemes alone they could have made themselves rich while transforming our society. Instead they remained petty rent seeking politicians concerned with ethnic politics as they felt secure the numerical superiority of their loyal herd of sheep will keep them in power. They did not see Madramootto coming.  He kneecapped them completely. Now they will be in the weeds for another two decades because, as usual, they do not have a coherent policy that addressed our needs nor do they have a strategy for all the people. That would have meant a base political philosophy bent of constitution reform. Instead they hope the loyal sheep will once again return to the fold. Granger et all has a plan B for that...it is called rigging.

Django is quite fine with his understanding. He is rightly contemptuous of the supposed PPP transformation and repulsed by their generalized insidious reliance on ethnic politics. At present they do not have any luminary that one can believe will be different from the long list of institutionalize PPP ideological kangalangs.  It is the reason I do not mind an egotistical arrogant peacock as young Ramson. He is deemed to be immature ( by jagdeo/ ramotar metric?) and pompous but for me he is young, smart and not ideological stunted hence more palatable than any of the geriatric PPPites from the cold war era.  

I do not give a damn if Django does not know GDP from GDF, he has the good sense not to be a sheep like many. He would not agree with me on Ramson because he still hedges his bet the PPP can be better than they are and that is what most of you who lambaste him on being a PNCite fail to see. I pity him for his reliance on thread bare faith that they can be different. His faith is on the diseased crew and they cannot save any of us. 

Drugb posted:

lilibai is lying through his teeth with all his talking points given by his handlers in the pnc/afc. the difference from pnc time pre 92 and the ppp era post 92 is astounding.  

add something over your usual fishwife su-su-ing. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Don’t worry with these people.  They have nothing else to do with their time. The only reason some of them are on here is because they cannot afford mental health treatment elsewhere. Essequibo is a beautiful place. Enjoy your day.

Since you are amazingly rich and can afford the best therapist, I can logically assume you are here as part of your therapy! Think on it, posters here are therefore wiser to get it for free!

D2 posted:

Drugb posted:

lilibai is lying through his teeth with all his talking points given by his handlers in the pnc/afc. the difference from pnc time pre 92 and the ppp era post 92 is astounding.  

add something over your usual fishwife su-su-ing. 

You are another one who was handed talking points by your previous handlers in the pnc/afc. Now you try to reinvent your self after your failed blunder in your foray of supporting pNC incompetence. Now you expect us to believe you once again are a fence sitter. 

Drugb posted:

D2 posted:

Drugb posted:

lilibai is lying through his teeth with all his talking points given by his handlers in the pnc/afc. the difference from pnc time pre 92 and the ppp era post 92 is astounding.  

add something over your usual fishwife su-su-ing. 

You are another one who was handed talking points by your previous handlers in the pnc/afc. Now you try to reinvent your self after your failed blunder in your foray of supporting pNC incompetence. Now you expect us to believe you once again are a fence sitter. 

I know you are accustomed to be led so independent thinking is not a thing you can understand. I supported a break from the PPP vile kleptocracy. While granger does seem to be on the same ethnic and kleptocratic track one has to find some way for preserving faith in the state. I am still hoping the Amerindian party will emerge. Lacking that I cannot support any in the PPP unless it is a young person. Another term of granger rubbing Indian faces in the dirt may be sufficient for them to begin to appeal to  political leadership with a difference. 

Mitwah posted:

ZED for a big man you are a liar and a great pretender.

You came on here and said that you are neutral and not taking any sides. I told you that people like you who sits on the fence get impaled. You could not hide your PPP leanings. You are a diehard PPPite to the core. You hit and run. You asked questions as if you don't live in Guyana; and for  answers you can look up or just make a simple phone call to freedumb house. But you are just too lackadaisical.

Your personal attacks are subtle or masked. 

You pelt one brick and ran away when I confronted you with your PPP record. Here it is again.

Here is your PPP record after 23 years:

•   Failed education system with illiteracy on the rise;
•   Broken health care system;
•   Highest infant/mother mortality rate in the region;
•   Poorest country in the hemisphere;
•   Most corrupt country in the region;
•   Increased racial divisiveness within the last 23 years - state   sponsored;
•   Broken transportation system;
•   Broken electricity system - random and prolonged black outs;
•   Broken road works & bridges - crippling the movement of goods and people;
•   Broken water and sewage system - no and sometimes unsafe piped water;
•   Country in state of dictatorship with the closure of parliament;
•   Rolling back of press freedoms with media being threatened;
•   Extra judicial killings and disappearances on the rise;
•   State sponsored demoralizing of armed services;

Power was off, just came on. Planned blackouts the whole afternoon and all day tomorrow.

1. Bring your data to support what you are posting.

2. Show me a posting where I said that I supported the PPP or Jagdeo THOUGH I AGREE  THAT SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPENED UNDER THEIR RULE.

3. Questions are good mechanisms to prove to the fool that he is a fool.

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

ZED for a big man you are a liar and a great pretender.

You came on here and said that you are neutral and not taking any sides. I told you that people like you who sits on the fence get impaled. You could not hide your PPP leanings. You are a diehard PPPite to the core. You hit and run. You asked questions as if you don't live in Guyana; and for  answers you can look up or just make a simple phone call to freedumb house. But you are just too lackadaisical.

Your personal attacks are subtle or masked. 

You pelt one brick and ran away when I confronted you with your PPP record. Here it is again.

Here is your PPP record after 23 years:

•   Failed education system with illiteracy on the rise;
•   Broken health care system;
•   Highest infant/mother mortality rate in the region;
•   Poorest country in the hemisphere;
•   Most corrupt country in the region;
•   Increased racial divisiveness within the last 23 years - state   sponsored;
•   Broken transportation system;
•   Broken electricity system - random and prolonged black outs;
•   Broken road works & bridges - crippling the movement of goods and people;
•   Broken water and sewage system - no and sometimes unsafe piped water;
•   Country in state of dictatorship with the closure of parliament;
•   Rolling back of press freedoms with media being threatened;
•   Extra judicial killings and disappearances on the rise;
•   State sponsored demoralizing of armed services;

Power was off, just came on. Planned blackouts the whole afternoon and all day tomorrow.

1. Bring your data to support what you are posting.

2. Show me a posting where I said that I supported the PPP or Jagdeo THOUGH I AGREE  THAT SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPENED UNDER THEIR RULE.

3. Questions are good mechanisms to prove to the fool that he is a fool.

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

Zed posted:

For Django. Remember the dictum that a little knowledge is dangerous. You seem to think that the little knowledge that you have of politics, economics, etc make you an expert or that your views  are irrefutable. I find this amusing.  I have frequently said that you have problems with comprehension. I am saying so again. Your comment about GDPndemonstrates how little you know about what you write. 

Not stunned, of the above, typical of the Intellectual weaklings who thinks they posses some form of knowledge greater than others, yet they they can't contradict the others view points in a fair manner, whom they presumed are below them in the realms of Intellect on Politics,Economics and other matters.You are no different than a few on GNI.

I am not a supporter of Jagdeo. I try to be fair in my comments. I still want to know why if the PNC thought that they could easily beat Jagdeo, that he was an asset to their campaign, then why did they fight so hard to make certain that he did not have a third term? Also, in a democracy, people are free to vote for their choice.

It's glaring that you are as supporter of Jagdeo.I have mentioned many times it's more Democratic to have Presidential term limits,Cheddi Jagan believed in it, the Carter Center believed in it, taking in to consideration the race based of Politics in Guyana.Democracy isn't only the freedom of people to vote for their choice.It's more than that, you should find some time to further explore Democracy.

Jagdeo is not a threat to the PNC,APNU or AFC,who believed in such need some soul searching.The fight was to withhold the limited Democratic gains from 1992.This Government should be commended for taking such actions, bear in mind the East Indian population is shrinking.The PNC could have benefited if that piece of legislation was deemed unconstitutional.

Tell me, why’s your post  that the PPP supporters are fooled for voting for the PPP, but the  same argument is not made for the PNC supporters who support the PNC? Especially as you argue we have ethnic voting in Guyana.

Most East Indians in Guyana are sheeple, they only believed their own should be in government then they are comfortable, the PPP knows this and as such they feed the thoughts so they can control their mindset

Africans can be more repulsive to the PNC, they can't be fooled easily, they are more outspoken and challenge their leaders.

To understand such one have to be unbiased and intermingle with these folks, you will learn a thing or two.

Mr.Zed,

My response to your post, let  the forum hear what's your thoughts.

VishMahabir posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

As usual.

VishMahabir posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

Vish, he comes on here only during the full moon.  He is the typical Guyanese resident who "can't see the forest because of the trees".

da wan deh who lift up skirt to examine bamsie tun gay in he old age. 

VishMahabir posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

I think that he is hurt that he was rejected. Maybe time for him to sing some bajan and to ponder on their true meaning.

Zed posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

I think that he is hurt that he was rejected. Maybe time for him to sing some bajan and to ponder on their true meaning.

Thanks Mr. Great Pretender.  I see your cuzo speak cave man's lingo. 

Prove me wrong that under the PPP Guyana became the:

•   Poorest country in the hemisphere;
•   Most corrupt country in the region.

Django posted:

Zed posted:

For Django. Remember the dictum that a little knowledge is dangerous. You seem to think that the little knowledge that you have of politics, economics, etc make you an expert or that your views  are irrefutable. I find this amusing.  I have frequently said that you have problems with comprehension. I am saying so again. Your comment about GDPndemonstrates how little you know about what you write. 

Not stunned, of the above, typical of the Intellectual weaklings who thinks they posses some form of knowledge greater than others, yet they they can't contradict the others view points in a fair manner, whom they presumed are below them in the realms of Intellect on Politics,Economics and other matters.You are no different than a few on GNI.

I am not a supporter of Jagdeo. I try to be fair in my comments. I still want to know why if the PNC thought that they could easily beat Jagdeo, that he was an asset to their campaign, then why did they fight so hard to make certain that he did not have a third term? Also, in a democracy, people are free to vote for their choice.

It's glaring that you are as supporter of Jagdeo.I have mentioned many times it's more Democratic to have Presidential term limits,Cheddi Jagan believed in it, the Carter Center believed in it, taking in to consideration the race based of Politics in Guyana.Democracy isn't only the freedom of people to vote for their choice.It's more than that, you should find some time to further explore Democracy.

Jagdeo is not a threat to the PNC,APNU or AFC,who believed in such need some soul searching.The fight was to withhold the limited Democratic gains from 1992.This Government should be commended for taking such actions, bear in mind the East Indian population is shrinking.The PNC could have benefited if that piece of legislation was deemed unconstitutional.

Tell me, why’s your post  that the PPP supporters are fooled for voting for the PPP, but the  same argument is not made for the PNC supporters who support the PNC? Especially as you argue we have ethnic voting in Guyana.

Most East Indians in Guyana are sheeple, they only believed their own should be in government then they are comfortable, the PPP knows this and as such they feed the thoughts so they can control their mindset

Africans can be more repulsive to the PNC, they can't be fooled easily, they are more outspoken and challenge their leaders.

To understand such one have to be unbiased and intermingle with these folks, you will learn a thing or two.

Mr.Zed,

My response to your post, let  the forum hear what's your thoughts.

So, were there any East Indians who criticized the PPP and voted against them.. or the afc claim to some support during the last general elections are just lies, like all the promises they made to all who supported them? Is yesu persuad Afro-Guyanese? How about a Christopher Ram, How about Freddie Kissoon, How about Mahadeo Pertab and others, how about Moses Or Ramjattan? Or are you implying that their criticism of the PPP is less acceptable or important  than that by Hinds and others who have critiqued the present coalition government? Since east indispensability are more sheepish than Afro-Guyanese, does this explain your your sheepish support for the present coalition?  Why is it that when Afro Guyanese vote for the party of their choice, the PnC, they are not sheepish, but when Indo-Guyanese vote for the party of their choice you view them as sheepish?

Django, it is bit being intellectually superior that others, but that some allow their limited knowledge of certain areas of study over-ride the natural caution they should have when articulating their views. I am certain that there are areas that you know much more than I do, for example, computers, IT. but to tell the truth, you have a lot to learn about logic, economics and areas in the humanities and you expose those weaknesses every time you get into a deep discussion or argument and thus revert to making unsubstantiated statements  on this site. You think that words or statements have one level of meaning so you often shout yourself in the foot.

Zed posted:

Django posted:

Zed posted:

For Django. Remember the dictum that a little knowledge is dangerous. You seem to think that the little knowledge that you have of politics, economics, etc make you an expert or that your views  are irrefutable. I find this amusing.  I have frequently said that you have problems with comprehension. I am saying so again. Your comment about GDPndemonstrates how little you know about what you write. 

Not stunned, of the above, typical of the Intellectual weaklings who thinks they posses some form of knowledge greater than others, yet they they can't contradict the others view points in a fair manner, whom they presumed are below them in the realms of Intellect on Politics,Economics and other matters.You are no different than a few on GNI.

I am not a supporter of Jagdeo. I try to be fair in my comments. I still want to know why if the PNC thought that they could easily beat Jagdeo, that he was an asset to their campaign, then why did they fight so hard to make certain that he did not have a third term? Also, in a democracy, people are free to vote for their choice.

It's glaring that you are as supporter of Jagdeo.I have mentioned many times it's more Democratic to have Presidential term limits,Cheddi Jagan believed in it, the Carter Center believed in it, taking in to consideration the race based of Politics in Guyana.Democracy isn't only the freedom of people to vote for their choice.It's more than that, you should find some time to further explore Democracy.

Jagdeo is not a threat to the PNC,APNU or AFC,who believed in such need some soul searching.The fight was to withhold the limited Democratic gains from 1992.This Government should be commended for taking such actions, bear in mind the East Indian population is shrinking.The PNC could have benefited if that piece of legislation was deemed unconstitutional.

Tell me, why’s your post  that the PPP supporters are fooled for voting for the PPP, but the  same argument is not made for the PNC supporters who support the PNC? Especially as you argue we have ethnic voting in Guyana.

Most East Indians in Guyana are sheeple, they only believed their own should be in government then they are comfortable, the PPP knows this and as such they feed the thoughts so they can control their mindset

Africans can be more repulsive to the PNC, they can't be fooled easily, they are more outspoken and challenge their leaders.

To understand such one have to be unbiased and intermingle with these folks, you will learn a thing or two.

Mr.Zed,

My response to your post, let  the forum hear what's your thoughts.

So, were there any East Indians who criticized the PPP and voted against them.. or the afc claim to some support during the last general elections are just lies, like all the promises they made to all who supported them? Is yesu persuad Afro-Guyanese? How about a Christopher Ram, How about Freddie Kissoon, How about Mahadeo Pertab and others, how about Moses Or Ramjattan? Or are you implying that their criticism of the PPP is less acceptable or important  than that by Hinds and others who have critiqued the present coalition government? Since east indispensability are more sheepish than Afro-Guyanese, does this explain your your sheepish support for the present coalition?  Why is it that when Afro Guyanese vote for the party of their choice, the PnC, they are not sheepish, but when Indo-Guyanese vote for the party of their choice you view them as sheepish?

 

 

 

I think when Black people vote PNC, they do not do that with the dislike for East Indians. Simply choosing dem own.

When the East Indians vote PPP, they definitely do so with the dislike of Blacks as the main considerations. What else can it be, they have been shafted since the creation of PPP. CBJ was pro-afro and even though he could give away the store to them, Blacks never embraced him. 

Django, show me where I have said that I support a Jagdeo or the PPP. I have asked you to do so but I have yet to see you do that. Also, you have failed to give a plausible explanation as to why the PNC fought so hard to prevent him from running. To protect constitutional gains? Heck, this is the party of the dictatorship, of rigging, of proxies, of dead people and donkeys  voting, of the unilateral decision to appoint chairman  of the election commission, of trampling in the rights of the police service commission, the public service commission, of having members of the armed forces spying on citizens ...

show where I have supported a third term for any president. I dare you to. You have access to all the material on archives and you are a computer genius. Give it a try. You miss the main point of what I said unintentionally or deliberately did so to divert attention from the weakness of your argument.

this government promised constitutional change? Where is it? Use your inside info to find out when and how it will progress! Explain why it is not happening. And no, do not blame others. When they were in opposition, they acted like if they got elected,  then there would be no impediments to them proceeding to bring about constitutional change. Well, the shoe is in the other foot!

depending on who is defining it, democracy has many meanings. It has essence and form, it can have form  but no essence/substance, it can be proclaimed or exist in reality, can be bastardized or prophesize, it can be the means to an end or be an end in itself, it can become the sermon and/or dreams of politicians or individuals, or entire nations, it can be used to oppress or to free ... and I did not even have to read up on it! 

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

I think that he is hurt that he was rejected. Maybe time for him to sing some bajan and to ponder on their true meaning.

Thanks Mr. Great Pretender.  I see your cuzo speak cave man's lingo. 

Prove me wrong that under the PPP Guyana became the:

•   Poorest country in the hemisphere;
•   Most corrupt country in the region.

Post your data! Don’t blow hot air! Then we can have abundance argument. Arguing about personal narratives is an exercise in futility.

Mitwah posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Mitwah posted:

Zed posted:

Mitwah posted:

 

Thank you for not disputing the facts about the 23 years of your PPP record. You are a PPP supporter. Stop pretending. I have lifted up your dress and exposed your bottom. Have a great day.

WOW!

Mits, be careful with your words....dem bannas might misinterpret them...

Vish, he comes on here only during the full moon.  He is the typical Guyanese resident who "can't see the forest because of the trees".

While you are singing bajan, cursing out people. And hinting at tryst   I’m innGuyana doing community service to make Guyana and Guyanese life better, though at a small scale. The least you can do is visit Guyana and sing some bajan for people here. They might find you entertaining.

Mr.Zed,

I have read all your responses,appears you are quarreling with yourself.Your questions are answered,trying to confuse with the thousands of word.

Make it short and sweet, that's my style.Lengthy rebuttals is like beating around the bush.

By the way i supported the PPP before it was derailed.Have assisted for Democracy to be restored in Guyana,don't looking for accolades.Have done a lot for people still don't look for accolades. Mixed with people from both side of the fence and please be informed,it's about two decades migrated.

Zed posted:

 

I am not a supporter of Jagdeo. I try to be fair in my comments. I still want to know why if the PNC thought that they could easily beat Jagdeo, that he was an asset to their campaign, then why did they fight so hard to make certain that he did not have a third term? 

 

 

Because the PNC knows that their vote is bored with them and they know that the PPP base is enslaved by Jagdeo.

Jagdeo is NOT a uniting factor and that is what Guyana needs.

Baseman posted:

  Regarding Jagdeo, like him or hate him, he is the man of the time.  

The Indian vote is declining and the mixed identified vote is increasing.  The vast majority of the mixed identified reject the PPP.

So how is Jagdeo the man of the time in 2018, 2019 or 2020.  Why doesn't the PPP find someone new and use the LGE to promote that person?

caribny posted:

Zed posted:

 

I am not a supporter of Jagdeo. I try to be fair in my comments. I still want to know why if the PNC thought that they could easily beat Jagdeo, that he was an asset to their campaign, then why did they fight so hard to make certain that he did not have a third term? 

 

 

Because the PNC knows that their vote is bored with them and they know that the PPP base is enslaved by Jagdeo.

Jagdeo is NOT a uniting factor and that is what Guyana needs.

He He 

D2 posted:

 

i was unable to reply to participants’ comments about my post on . One must reflect that was because Burnham swung left to communism when his first five year plan failed 

 

To the contrary, Guyana's best years were in the 1965 to 1970 period.  The economy grew and there was massive improvements in the physical and social infrastructure.  And yes some the biggest beneficiaries of this were in the rural coastal areas.  The MMA being an example of this.

I remember when Burnham issued the call to build the highway into the interior (the beginning of his cognitive decline) not only did many overseas based (Afro) Guyanese respond but so did many other Caribbean people also responded.  In 1972 when Guyana hosted Carifesta the country was respected in a way that it hasn't been since.

Burnham switched turned left in order to impose his own totalitarian state.  Look at the monopoly power he had over the lives of 100% of the population when all power became vested with the state. Had  Guyana had a vibrant indigenous private sector would this have been possible?  The truth is that Guyana lacked that which Trinidad had so nationalizing a few companies gave Burnham monopoly power. Even if Eric Williams was so inclined this wouldn't have been possible in T&T.

caribny posted:

Baseman posted:

  Regarding Jagdeo, like him or hate him, he is the man of the time.  

The Indian vote is declining and the mixed identified vote is increasing.  The vast majority of the mixed identified reject the PPP.

So how is Jagdeo the man of the time in 2018, 2019 or 2020.  Why doesn't the PPP find someone new and use the LGE to promote that person?

East Indians will be at a greater disadvantage in the next decade, unbiased leadership will be needed to represent them.The vision less people don't see that,some thinks photo ops will cut the mustard.

Django posted:

Mr.Zed,

I have read all your responses,appears you are quarreling with yourself.Your questions are answered,trying to confuse with the thousands of word.

Make it short and sweet, that's my style.Lengthy rebuttals is like beating around the bush.

By the way i supported the PPP before it was derailed.Have assisted for Democracy to be restored in Guyana,don't looking for accolades.Have done a lot for people still don't look for accolades. Mixed with people from both side of the fence and please be informed,it's about two decades migrated.

Must give credit to Zed for remaining to fight the cause. I would trust his assessment of things on ground zero other than the diaspora second hand spin on their side of the fence.. It is no different than someone quoting the Chronicle News Paper.  

What will the AFC do if they can't score on the LGE? The fact remains that this election will be a race of Two PPP and PNC.

Drugb posted:

 

You are another one who was handed talking points by your previous handlers in the pnc/afc. Now you try to reinvent your self after your failed blunder in your foray of supporting pNC incompetence. Now you expect us to believe you once again are a fence sitter. 

Druggie go find a black baigan to sit on and relax yourself.   You are an intellectually limited idiot who adds nothing to the discussion.

Have a good evening.

kp posted:

Django posted:

Mr.Zed,

I have read all your responses,appears you are quarreling with yourself.Your questions are answered,trying to confuse with the thousands of word.

Make it short and sweet, that's my style.Lengthy rebuttals is like beating around the bush.

By the way i supported the PPP before it was derailed.Have assisted for Democracy to be restored in Guyana,don't looking for accolades.Have done a lot for people still don't look for accolades. Mixed with people from both side of the fence and please be informed,it's about two decades migrated.

Must give credit to Zed for remaining to fight the cause. I would trust his assessment of things on ground zero other than the diaspora second hand spin on their side of the fence.. It is no different than someone quoting the Chronicle News Paper.  

What will the AFC do if they can't score on the LGE? The fact remains that this election will be a race of Two PPP and PNC.

Mr.Zed, retire in the homeland, after his stint in N.A, he didn't stay back to fight the real cause.Any way good for him to choose his home land for retirement.

Drugb posted:

da wan deh who lift up skirt to examine bamsie tun gay in he old age. 

See this is the only type of discussion that you are capable of.  Now resume your hobby......you know what it is.

Zed posted:

 

 

 

So, were there any East Indians who criticized the PPP and voted against them.. or the afc claim to some support during the last general elections are just lies, like all the promises they made to all who supported them? 

 

 

 

All of the Indians who dared speak out against the PPP were deemed traits, neemakaram, congo lovers and all other epithets. Freddie K faced assaults and death threats.  The KN paper was attacked by RK connected para militias.

Africans have way more freedom to speak out against the PNC.  In addition when Africans dont like what the PNC does they vocalize it and stay home.   We dont see this behavior among the Indian grass roots.

The segment of the Indian  population which voted AFC in the last election were the ones who are derisively called "town coolie" by the PPP base.  Please dont peddle the nonsense that the AFC received substantial votes in the rural Indian strongholds last election, because the results show otherwise.

It is quite clear that black Guyanese have a much more individualistic and less group based form of ethnic identity. But for the entrenched clannish behavior that we see from large swathes of the Indian population you would even see less of it.  And please dont debate this and one can easily see that there are difference in how Afro and Indo Guyanese view miscegenation and the offspring that results.

caribny posted:

Zed posted:

So, were there any East Indians who criticized the PPP and voted against them.. or the afc claim to some support during the last general elections are just lies, like all the promises they made to all who supported them?

All of the Indians who dared speak out against the PPP were deemed traits, neemakaram, congo lovers and all other epithets. Freddie K faced assaults and death threats.  The KN paper was attacked by RK connected para militias.

Africans have way more freedom to speak out against the PNC.  In addition when Africans dont like what the PNC does they vocalize it and stay home.   We dont see this behavior among the Indian grass roots.

The segment of the Indian  population which voted AFC in the last election were the ones who are derisively called "town coolie" by the PPP base.  Please dont peddle the nonsense that the AFC received substantial votes in the rural Indian strongholds last election, because the results show otherwise.

It is quite clear that black Guyanese have a much more individualistic and less group based form of ethnic identity. But for the entrenched clannish behavior that we see from large swathes of the Indian population you would even see less of it.  And please dont debate this and one can easily see that there are difference in how Afro and Indo Guyanese view miscegenation and the offspring that results.

Oh well, they will never accept the above.

seignet posted:

 

 

 

 

 . CBJ was pro-afro and even though he could give away the store to them, Blacks never embraced him. 

Blacks supported Cheddi until he began to absorb black hating racists like you.

I am eager to see evidence that Cheddi repudiated those who called for apan jhat voting in the 1957 election.

Now how do you expect blacks to react to appeals from segments of the PPP support base who endorse voting based on racial factors alone.  How does this signal to them that they could expect fair treatment from the PPP?

In fact the 1961-64 and 1992-2015 showed blacks that they couldn't expect fair treatment from the PPP.  They couldn't expect the PPP to be a party which listened to them and incorporated blacks as powerful factors within their leadership.

So in Guyana the choices that blacks have is to vote PNC or not to vote.  During the 70s and 80s and again in 2006 they refused to vote.