time for medicare for all...fix Obamacare instead

First Kick up the Emperor's ASS!!!!!!!!

Trump is the biggest clown you could ever find!!  He might be advising Granger 

I think Trump is way ahead of Granger!!!!

Also, a new report says Melania has a sign " You cant touch this" They do not sleep in the same bed.

Nehru posted:

First Kick up the Emperor's ASS!!!!!!!!

And he is now off the ladder where he was constantly declining.

Worst week for the Fake President. Impeach the Fake President, I give him two years, jail him for Treason. Immigration Ban #2 NO GO, Trump/Ryan unaffordable Healthcare NO GO, Obama wire tap Trump Tower, a BIG LIE, FBI, CIA have links of Trump campaign and Russia. How much worst can it get.???? Obamacare was the best thing since apple pie for the Americans, but the White Bastards cannot accept , it took a Black Man [OBAMA}to create Affordable Health  Care, agreed, Obama care needs fine tuning and both sides of the isle needs to be involved.

Trump so busy I am sure Melania starving for some affection

Trump got "stuffed" again. He will go down as the president who got "stuffed".  

Trump got another bump in his rump with a huge boot ... again.

RiffRaff posted:

time for medicare for all...fix Obamacare instead

I have to agree with Riff here

Two down, one to go. Repeal Obama care(not). Ban all muslims..struck down twice by the courts. Build the wall, Mexico will pay for it(not). McConnell said a wall will not be built. 
What happened to the world's foremost negotiator??????? Are there any more great deals left for him to make??????

Trump is the world's biggest con man.

Amral posted:

Trump so busy I am sure Melania starving for some affection

You can knock at she door ... let her know you is the plumber ...eheheheh

The bankrupt Businessman now turn President thinks running the country was easy, his own Republicans turn him down. So far he has achieve nothing, done nothing for the country. He has the lowest rating for an incoming President 37%. I say IMPEACH the FAKE president, Russia was involved and they helped him.

Looks like Baseman, Bibi, Prince and co. gone into hiding. Can't stand the shame. lol 

Anyone who support Trump needs to have their head examined. This guy is an empty barrel.

Prashad posted:

RiffRaff posted:

time for medicare for all...fix Obamacare instead

I have to agree with Riff here

There are elements of Obamacare that are good.  The basic framework is good.  The GOP should focus on fixing what's not working and get it to work better.  The GOP should have realized from their various town halls that Obama has transformed the discussion from healthcare is a personal responsibility to one of a basic right.  Obama has changed America!

The issue here is the USG continues to abscond from its responsibility to take care of the uninsurable pool and Obamacare chucked them onto the market.  Obamacare fixed a 10% problem by screwing the other 90%.

In the end, the US will drift towards a single payer system with the basics covered and individuals can bolt-on and pay for "luxuries".

ksazma posted:

Anyone who support Trump needs to have their head examined. This guy is an empty barrel.

Trump is a smart guy, but he does not understand how to govern.  Let's hope he learned a lesson.

FC posted:

Looks like Baseman, Bibi, Prince and co. gone into hiding. Can't stand the shame. lol 

 

Oh no, Baseman has been very busy these days.  I also don't think the GOP plan was a full solution and it left gaps.  There were some things in their proposal which were actually good.  However, they seem to want to pay for it by taking away from others.

The GOP's first order should be taking the steps on the economy like tax reform, infrastructure, etc, then look to fix the ills of Obamacare.

ba$eman posted:

ksazma posted:

Anyone who support Trump needs to have their head examined. This guy is an empty barrel.

Trump is a smart guy, but he does not understand how to govern.  Let's hope he learned a lesson.

I beg to differ Base. Trump is far from a smart guy. He got where he did by getting money from his father and then using that money and the power it bought to increase his influence. But only he and his family benefited because he robbed and cheated countless people along the way,

As in everything else around him, it is never his fault. He is so devoid of reality that he declared that the losers of yesterday was Schumer and Palosi and the Democrats. Now they are saying that they were mislead into tackling Healthcare first.

Trump is as fake as a three dollar bill.

On the other hand, the worlds (including America) most favorite president Barack Hussein Obama demonstrated even in absentia how smart and effective he was.

Obamacare is solvent if properly enforced. The insurance companies rigged the system to circumvent the revenue sharing aspect of Obamacare. How can an industry that made record profits last year still claim that their risks were driving them out of business?

ksazma posted:

ba$eman posted:

ksazma posted:

Anyone who support Trump needs to have their head examined. This guy is an empty barrel.

Trump is a smart guy, but he does not understand how to govern.  Let's hope he learned a lesson.

Obamacare is solvent if properly enforced. The insurance companies rigged the system to circumvent the revenue sharing aspect of Obamacare. How can an industry that made record profits last year still claim that their risks were driving them out of business?

I don't know what you mean here, what "properly enforced means"?  If you don't have insurance, you pay a tax penalty.  That penalty should go to the insurance subsidy.  Obamacare is solvent at the high price to the healthy insured.  The uninsurable risks should be removed from the insurable pool.

The Obamacare concept is good, but it debased the entire model and concept of risk-based insurance.  By forcing certainly (of loss) into the model, you have transformed it to a partial insurance, partly welfare system.  The insurable pool has to pay for that if the Govt abscond its responsibility to its citizens.

Insurance Cos make profits in general, but each segment must stand alone.  The healthcare segment is languishing!

kp posted:

Worst week for the Fake President. Impeach the Fake President, I give him two years, jail him for Treason. Immigration Ban #2 NO GO, Trump/Ryan unaffordable Healthcare NO GO, Obama wire tap Trump Tower, a BIG LIE, FBI, CIA have links of Trump campaign and Russia. How much worst can it get.???? Obamacare was the best thing since apple pie for the Americans, but the White Bastards cannot accept , it took a Black Man [OBAMA}to create Affordable Health  Care, agreed, Obama care needs fine tuning and both sides of the isle needs to be involved.

Well said KP!

One of the goals of Obamacare was to transfer more of the premium from the insurance companies pockets to the pockets of healthcare providers instead. This was to be achieved by changing the revenue sharing from a 55/45 % split to a 85/15 % one, The expectation was that of that 30% would go back to the consumer. That is why president Obama stated that people will save &2,500. In the effort to preserve the same amount of dollars, the insurance industry flooded more money to providers because 85% of more money would mean 15% of more money. That explained the CEO of the company making Epipen statement that there was more money to absorb her increasing the price some 5 times.

The insurance industry isn't going out of business. The reduction of providers is mostly due to mergers which is suppressing competition. United Healthcare is currently trying to buy Humana for billions of dollars. Why would they do that if the industry is dying? However, if this merger goes through, the market will be further compressed and price controlling will intensify,

Competition is consumers' safety net and that has continuously eroded over the past 30 years so much so that while the economy has expanded 7 to 8 times, consumers and workers prosperity hasn't,

Kaz

This is classic

" Trump is fake as a three dollar bill"

So far Trump is 0 for in the win loss column. This is the same guy who said "we are going to win win win".

60 plus days into Obama's first term he was already reversing the 800 thousand jobs we were losing each month. And Onama didn't run around blabbing "we are going to win win win".

Chief posted:

Kaz

This is classic

" Trump is fake as a three dollar bill"

I stole it from D2.

ksazma posted:

So far Trump is 0 for in the win loss column. This is the same guy who said "we are going to win win win".

60 plus days into Obama's first term he was already reversing the 800 thousand jobs we were losing each month. And Onama didn't run around blabbing "we are going to win win win".

M y personal  feeling is that it is a sin to use Trump name in the same sentence with Obama when speaking about the Presidency.

A person has to be extremely awesome that after 8 years of character assassination, he still walked away with an almost 60% approval rating.

Trump is conspicuously jealous of the great Obama (using Nehru's term)

Mahatma Obama tarasss

While not quite, Obama would pass as a Mahatma. He genuinely cared for others.

Trump has been an unmitigated disaster so far.  It would be better to focus on other initiatives which have wider appeal to the public rather than trying to remove the great Obama legacy.

First lesson learnt, NOTHING will get done - one of the worst presidents ever!

Trump was too much in a rush to repeal obamacare. The republicans need to come up with a better plan where all are covered before trying to repeal. 

alena06 posted:

First lesson learnt, NOTHING will get done - one of the worst presidents ever!

Can we say "Lame Duck" president? Only 64 days and he's already a lame duck. He was bytch slapped with a back hand.

FC posted:

Trump has been an unmitigated disaster so far.  It would be better to focus on other initiatives which have wider appeal to the public rather than trying to remove the great Obama legacy.

The trouble is that no matter what he does, it will be done wrong because he is indeed hapless.

Just heard that Tillerson said that he didn't want the SOS job. Then yesterday Trump said that he didn't want to reform healthcare but was forced to do it. Haplessness to the infinite power.

Drugb posted:

Trump was too much in a rush to repeal obamacare. The republicans need to come up with a better plan where all are covered before trying to repeal. 

The man said "day 1" he will repeal and replace Obama care.

alena06 posted:

First lesson learnt, NOTHING will get done - one of the worst presidents ever!

Correction Lena. He is the worse president ever.