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October 29,2017

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The Working People’s Alliance (WPA) says it is of the view that the selection procedure used for the GECOM Chairman has followed the letter of the law and the constitution, if not the spirit.  The WPA is a member of APNU, the main partner in the governing coalition.

A statement from the WPA follows:

The Working Peoples Alliance feels that the matter of the appointment of the chairperson of the Guyana Elections Commission(GECOM) is a very important one that should not be used for partisan political grandstanding and settling scores. It goes to the heart of our democratic process and should be treated as such by all responsible political and social forces.

As a party, which participated in the process while in the opposition benches, WPA is fully aware of the patriotic responsibility that the success of the undertaking demands. Those who are charged with initiating the process have a duty to preserve its integrity.

It is the WPA’s considered opinion that the PPP intentionally set out to compromise the spirit of the process with the hope of using the outcome to embarrass the government and further its own partisan agenda.

WPA respects the right and civic responsibility of citizens and their organizations to interpret and challenge the president’s action from both a constitutional and a political standpoint—that is part of the democratic environment which our party has always struggled to uphold. But we warn against falling into the trap that is being set by the PPP and its allies.

  1. There was never going to be a good outcome to the appointment of the GECOM Chair without prior Constitutional Reform. This could be proven true for all appointments that require President/Leader of Opposition agreement
 
  1. WPA did not and indeed could not, participate in the selection process as of right since the Constitution confines this selection, effectively to a President/Leader of Opposition procedure.

 

  1. Our fundamental political position is not to be ensnared by PPP/C, on principle, in any form, guise, or manner, in their desperate efforts at revisionism/ historical rewriting/ opportunism/ and crude hypocrisy.

 

  1. It is our conviction that, on strict construction, the selection procedure used so far has followed the letter of the law and the constitution, if not the spirit. To be very clear, neither side is committed to a solution that is satisfactory to both. The political environment does not favour this. Further, their constituents who make up the bulk of the masses of Guyanese people, do not expect such an outcome.

 

  1. It is, however, politically important for the country that democratic forces do not allow the appointment of Justice Patterson to be read as a de facto depiction of the coalition’s collective intent to rig elections. This, from the WPA’s standpoint, is certainly not the case. Those who wish the coalition ill, would hope this becomes the normative public position, especially for activist Civil Society. While not everyone, there are clearly several rogues and charlatans who are deceptively promoting this false equivalence. Buyers beware!

 

  1. WPA publicly commits to the position that, if elections are not proceeding as ‘’free and fair’’, we would publicly withdraw from the Coalition, but would not on that support, the PPP/C in any guise whatsoever.

 

  1. The fallacious positions being peddled that James Patterson received $800,000 per month as advisor to the Minister of Legal Affairs when he was only being paid $20,000 and that he misrepresented that he was once Chief Justice of Grenada when evidence proves otherwise shows clearly that the tactic of the PPP is to mislead the public. It does so by framing a false narrative as the truth with the hope that the public would respond negatively to everything that the government is doing.

 

 

  1. The ad hominem attacks and character assassination of Justice Patterson know no bounds. His Christian belief and practice, age, paying last rites to a colleague and friend all are fair game, despite comparators on the lists submitted by the Leader of the Opposition. At least, no viral complaints have yet been made against him as a thief, abuser and scoundrel, for comparators to be drawn.

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Gilbakka posted:

CONCLUSION: As of now the WPA will stay firmly in the PNC-dominated APNU and keep their one allotted parliamentary seat.

I suspect that they are trying to hang on to their one ministerial position, though it is much reduced now with the demotion of roopnarine and that they are scared of the PNC after knowing joe Rodney was treated. I did not remember hearing much from them about the Walter Rodney COI which the PNC terminated prematurely. Yheyvare lije the AFC, empty shells hanging on to the trappings of power. 

Z

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

FM
VVP posted:

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

How do you expect a Black dominated government to select an Indian/ non Black??

K
kp posted:
VVP posted:

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

How do you expect a Black dominated government to select an Indian/ non Black??

If being Black was the only criterion then the lists had Blacks on them.

FM
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VVP posted:
kp posted:
VVP posted:

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

How do you expect a Black dominated government to select an Indian/ non Black??

If being Black was the only criterion then the lists had Blacks on them.

Their problem was that every list of 6 names had 4 Indians. As if Indians like Chris Ram and Joe Singh are not impartial, independent or lack integrity. The last thing one could accuse those 2 guys of is racialism.

FM
VVP posted:
kp posted:
VVP posted:

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

How do you expect a Black dominated government to select an Indian/ non Black??

If being Black was the only criterion then the lists had Blacks on them.

KP bhai is a dense racist. 

Mitwah
VVP posted:
kp posted:
VVP posted:

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

How do you expect a Black dominated government to select an Indian/ non Black??

If being Black was the only criterion then the lists had Blacks on them.

VVP,

Too much ethnic hatred are being played out with the nomination of GECOM Chairman,Jagdeo padded the list with many of the people that supports the PPP from the inception,what was his motive ?? my view is he disrespected the whole process.

Django
Mitwah posted:
VVP posted:
kp posted:
VVP posted:

Well all right, IF the 3 lists were bad, is it reasonable to appoint a dead man to a demanding position?

My personal opinion is that Chris Ram and Joe Singh were very good candidates so I don't buy the crap that all the lists were bad.

How do you expect a Black dominated government to select an Indian/ non Black??

If being Black was the only criterion then the lists had Blacks on them.

KP bhai is a dense racist. 

I am learning from you the dog catcher.

K
Django posted:

VVP,

Too much ethnic hatred are being played out with the nomination of GECOM Chairman,Jagdeo padded the list with many of the people that supports the PPP from the inception,what was his motive ?? my view is he disrespected the whole process.

I do not disagree.  There was some amount of grandstanding from the PPP.  That's why I am not surprised by the outcome because politics in Guyana is like child's play.  However, I am floored by the choice of a dead man to run one of the most demanding Commission in Guyana.

FM

Here are the lists - who are the non starters in them.  I highlighted the one I know:

First List

Christopher Ram - Chartered Accountant and lawyer

Ramesh Dookhoo - business executive

Ryhaan Shah - author, Indian rights activist and columnist

Professor James Rose – historian

Lawrence Lachmansingh - governance and peace practitioner

Norman McLean - former Chief of Staff of the Guyana Defence Force and mining executive

Second List

BS Roy - retired judge

William Ramlal - retired judge

Oneidge Walrond-Allicock – attorney

Nadia Sagar - attorney

Kashir Khan - attorney

Gerry Gouveia - businessman

Third List

Joe Singh - retired Guyana Defence Force Major General

Krisndat Persaud - former long-serving magistrate

Teni Housty - attorney

Sanjeev Datadin – attorney

Annette Arjoon-Martins - pilot and biodiversity advocate

Onesi La Fleur - Adventist pastor and agriculturalist

FM
VVP posted:
Django posted:

VVP,

Too much ethnic hatred are being played out with the nomination of GECOM Chairman,Jagdeo padded the list with many of the people that supports the PPP from the inception,what was his motive ?? my view is he disrespected the whole process.

I do not disagree.  There was some amount of grandstanding from the PPP.  That's why I am not surprised by the outcome because politics in Guyana is like child's play.  However, I am floored by the choice of a dead man to run one of the most demanding Commission in Guyana.

The idea of the Opposition proposing the list is to ensure they do select one who they can trust and who has the appropriate credentials to be honest ( not as a judge as Granger suggested).

 

Any list making is a preferential process. Granger was obliged to select from the best of these. He could have protested if the list was too partial to the PPP.

 

He did  not. He simply delayed the process months on end and them made a unilateral judgement of one who is a PNC ideologue. He has corrupted the process.

 

The head of GECOM is the protector of our democracy. He is the last person standing between a trustworthy system and a rigged one. Granger chose to follow the path that leaves the system suspect since he primed it for the possibility of a rigging.

FM
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VVP posted:

Here are the lists - who are the non starters in them.  I highlighted the one I know:

First List

Christopher Ram - Chartered Accountant and lawyer

Ramesh Dookhoo - business executive---??? his allegiance is PPP,saw some FB post.

Ryhaan Shah - author, Indian rights activist and columnist

Professor James Rose – historian---PPP leaning

Lawrence Lachmansingh - governance and peace practitioner

Norman McLean - former Chief of Staff of the Guyana Defence Force and mining executive---PPP leaning

Second List

BS Roy - retired judge-----Ruled for Jagdeo Third Term run

William Ramlal - retired judge

Oneidge Walrond-Allicock – attorney----Wife of Lawyer in Third Term run

Nadia Sagar - attorney

Kashir Khan - attorney

Gerry Gouveia - businessman---- PPP leaning

Third List

Joe Singh - retired Guyana Defence Force Major General

Krisndat Persaud - former long-serving magistrate

Teni Housty - attorney

Sanjeev Datadin – attorney

Annette Arjoon-Martins - pilot and biodiversity advocate

Onesi La Fleur - Adventist pastor and agriculturalist

Here is my take in Bold Letters and highlighted,

the last list two persons are reasonable picks,then again take a closer look,you will get my gist.

Django
Django posted:
VVP posted:

Here are the lists - who are the non starters in them.  I highlighted the one I know:

First List

Christopher Ram - Chartered Accountant and lawyer

Ramesh Dookhoo - business executive---??? his allegiance is PPP,saw some FB post.

Ryhaan Shah - author, Indian rights activist and columnist

Professor James Rose – historian---PPP leaning

Lawrence Lachmansingh - governance and peace practitioner

Norman McLean - former Chief of Staff of the Guyana Defence Force and mining executive---PPP leaning

Second List

BS Roy - retired judge-----Ruled for Jagdeo Third Term run

William Ramlal - retired judge

Oneidge Walrond-Allicock – attorney----Wife of Lawyer in Third Term run

Nadia Sagar - attorney

Kashir Khan - attorney

Gerry Gouveia - businessman---- PPP leaning

Third List

Joe Singh - retired Guyana Defence Force Major General

Krisndat Persaud - former long-serving magistrate

Teni Housty - attorney

Sanjeev Datadin – attorney

Annette Arjoon-Martins - pilot and biodiversity advocate

Onesi La Fleur - Adventist pastor and agriculturalist

Here is my take in Bold Letters and highlighted,

the last list two persons are reasonable picks,then again take a closer look,you will get my gist.

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

FM
VVP posted:
Django posted:
VVP posted:

Here are the lists - who are the non starters in them.  I highlighted the one I know:

First List

Christopher Ram - Chartered Accountant and lawyer

Ramesh Dookhoo - business executive---??? his allegiance is PPP,saw some FB post.

Ryhaan Shah - author, Indian rights activist and columnist

Professor James Rose – historian---PPP leaning

Lawrence Lachmansingh - governance and peace practitioner

Norman McLean - former Chief of Staff of the Guyana Defence Force and mining executive---PPP leaning

Second List

BS Roy - retired judge-----Ruled for Jagdeo Third Term run

William Ramlal - retired judge

Oneidge Walrond-Allicock – attorney----Wife of Lawyer in Third Term run

Nadia Sagar - attorney

Kashir Khan - attorney

Gerry Gouveia - businessman---- PPP leaning

Third List

Joe Singh - retired Guyana Defence Force Major General

Krisndat Persaud - former long-serving magistrate

Teni Housty - attorney

Sanjeev Datadin – attorney

Annette Arjoon-Martins - pilot and biodiversity advocate

Onesi La Fleur - Adventist pastor and agriculturalist

Here is my take in Bold Letters and highlighted,

the last list two persons are reasonable picks,then again take a closer look,you will get my gist.

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

Sorry about that he is suited,

the list so bungled i missed his name.

Look at all the names that are acceptable on the list,they are all East Indians [bear in mind they are 39.8 % of the population] and that is an insult to the Educated and moderate Afro Guyanese and Amerindians.

Granger pick of Patterson,may have some sinister move,my suspicion there will be delayed 2020 Elections,we will find out.

Django
Django posted:
VVP posted:
Django posted:
VVP posted:

Here are the lists - who are the non starters in them.  I highlighted the one I know:

First List

Christopher Ram - Chartered Accountant and lawyer

Ramesh Dookhoo - business executive---??? his allegiance is PPP,saw some FB post.

Ryhaan Shah - author, Indian rights activist and columnist

Professor James Rose – historian---PPP leaning

Lawrence Lachmansingh - governance and peace practitioner

Norman McLean - former Chief of Staff of the Guyana Defence Force and mining executive---PPP leaning

Second List

BS Roy - retired judge-----Ruled for Jagdeo Third Term run

William Ramlal - retired judge

Oneidge Walrond-Allicock – attorney----Wife of Lawyer in Third Term run

Nadia Sagar - attorney

Kashir Khan - attorney

Gerry Gouveia - businessman---- PPP leaning

Third List

Joe Singh - retired Guyana Defence Force Major General

Krisndat Persaud - former long-serving magistrate

Teni Housty - attorney

Sanjeev Datadin – attorney

Annette Arjoon-Martins - pilot and biodiversity advocate

Onesi La Fleur - Adventist pastor and agriculturalist

Here is my take in Bold Letters and highlighted,

the last list two persons are reasonable picks,then again take a closer look,you will get my gist.

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

Sorry about that he is suited,

the list so bungled i missed his name.

Look at all the names that are acceptable on the list,they are all East Indians [bear in mind they are 39.8 % of the population] and that is an insult to the Educated and moderate Afro Guyanese and Amerindians.

Granger pick of Patterson,may have some sinister move,my suspicion there will be delayed 2020 Elections,we will find out.

AFC/PNC slop Boy, Can you please tell us what is the Percentage of Afro Guyanese population ?

Now, that number is approx. 29 Percent.

Take a look at Permanent Secretaries in Government departments and report back to us.

You see my point ?

Guyana has serious race problems.

Now, ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

So:

Please do not bring this BS argument that Indos will cheat when selected as GECOM head. 

Keep carrying your AFC/PNC slop.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
 

AFC/PNC slop Boy, Can you please tell us what is the Percentage of Afro Guyanese population ?

Banna please, I am not here on GNI,to entertain your Fish Market Rubbish.

You can find out the information is out there.

Django
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Django posted:
VVP posted:

Here are the lists - who are the non starters in them.  I highlighted the one I know:

First List

Christopher Ram - Chartered Accountant and lawyer

Ramesh Dookhoo - business executive---??? his allegiance is PPP,saw some FB post.

Ryhaan Shah - author, Indian rights activist and columnist

Professor James Rose – historian---PPP leaning

Lawrence Lachmansingh - governance and peace practitioner

Norman McLean - former Chief of Staff of the Guyana Defence Force and mining executive---PPP leaning

Second List

BS Roy - retired judge-----Ruled for Jagdeo Third Term run

William Ramlal - retired judge

Oneidge Walrond-Allicock – attorney----Wife of Lawyer in Third Term run

Nadia Sagar - attorney

Kashir Khan - attorney

Gerry Gouveia - businessman---- PPP leaning

Third List

Joe Singh - retired Guyana Defence Force Major General

Krisndat Persaud - former long-serving magistrate

Teni Housty - attorney

Sanjeev Datadin – attorney

Annette Arjoon-Martins - pilot and biodiversity advocate

Onesi La Fleur - Adventist pastor and agriculturalist

Here is my take in Bold Letters and highlighted,

the last list two persons are reasonable picks,then again take a closer look,you will get my gist.

Assuming that you caterization of those individuals are correct, are we to assume that if someone has a leaning towards the PPP. Then that person is not fit and proper?

Then, how do you justify Patterson since he has a leaning towards the PNC and has lied on his resume. Is he fit and proper? Does he fit all the criteria Granger had demanded, especially does he have wide knowledge and experience in administering elections.

So, is a lawyer who represents a client in court, he has a leaning towards the philosophy of that individual? Also, as far as I know, the PPP nor Jagdeo never filed a third term lawsuit. Also, what about BS Roy. Why is he not fit and proper because he made a ruling supported by another learned judge?

also, what about Annette Arjuna Martin. Who is she leaning towards? What is your objection? Same for Earnest La Fleur, Datadin and the others you have not highlighted?

what is the problem with joe Singh? Is he PPP learning, not fit and able? He has conducted elections. Has integrity, impartial as far as we know.

From your highlights, 50 percent of the three lists were still fit and proper. And please do not give me the story that the whole list has to be fit and able. That is like goat shit waiting  for breeze to blow.

I think that you got some talking points someplace and sticking by it. Trying to obfuscate by such nonsense. 

I have more to say but no time. I am going to a function and I will pray that you use your god given sense and not think that we are stupid or use the usual  refrain that who criticize Granger on this issue are ppp supporters. Should we use the same logic with you?

Z
Django posted:
 

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

Sorry about that he is suited,

the list so bungled i missed his name.

Look at all the names that are acceptable on the list,they are all East Indians [bear in mind they are 39.8 % of the population] and that is an insult to the Educated and moderate Afro Guyanese and Amerindians.

Granger pick of Patterson,may have some sinister move,my suspicion there will be delayed 2020 Elections,we will find out.

You might have a point there if the aim is to delay the elections.  I am not sure what they stand to gain by delaying the election one year if they have to look for another  GECOM Chairman.

Django - BTW the PNC won with an Indian  GECOM Chairman, what do they have to fair from honest non-aligned Indians?

FM
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Zed posted:
 

Assuming that you caterization of those individuals are correct, are we to assume that if someone has a leaning towards the PPP. Then that person is not fit and proper?

Then, how do you justify Patterson since he has a leaning towards the PNC and has lied on his resume. Is he fit and proper? Does he fit all the criteria Granger had demanded, especially does he have wide knowledge and experience in administering elections.

So, is a lawyer who represents a client in court, he has a leaning towards the philosophy of that individual? Also, as far as I know, the PPP nor Jagdeo never filed a third term lawsuit. Also, what about BS Roy. Why is he not fit and proper because he made a ruling supported by another learned judge?

also, what about Annette Arjuna Martin. Who is she leaning towards? What is your objection? Same for Earnest La Fleur, Datadin and the others you have not highlighted?

what is the problem with joe Singh? Is he PPP learning, not fit and able? He has conducted elections. Has integrity, impartial as far as we know.

From your highlights, 50 percent of the three lists were still fit and proper. And please do not give me the story that the whole list has to be fit and able. That is like goat shit waiting  for breeze to blow.

I think that you got some talking points someplace and sticking by it. Trying to obfuscate by such nonsense. 

I have more to say but no time. I am going to a function and I will pray that you use your god given sense and not think that we are stupid or use the usual  refrain that who criticize Granger on this issue are ppp supporters. Should we use the same logic with you?

Spoken like a true Jagdeo follower,who the fella Richardson was instigated by to challenge the Presidential term limits??

Jagdeo have ambitions to be become President again,may be you don't observe that,my take is it will back fire.

Django
VVP posted:
Django posted:
 

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

Sorry about that he is suited,

the list so bungled i missed his name.

Look at all the names that are acceptable on the list,they are all East Indians [bear in mind they are 39.8 % of the population] and that is an insult to the Educated and moderate Afro Guyanese and Amerindians.

Granger pick of Patterson,may have some sinister move,my suspicion there will be delayed 2020 Elections,we will find out.

You might have a point there if the aim is to delay the elections.  I am not sure what they stand to gain by delaying the election one year if they have to look for another  GECOM Chairman.

Django - BTW the PNC won with an Indian  GECOM Chairman, what do they have to fair from honest non-aligned Indians?

I am in agreement,

it's just a hunch why Granger picked Patterson.

Bhai, the PPP hounded that guy out,he said you will be shocked to know who try to pad the SOP in 2015 Elections.

Django
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Django posted:
VVP posted:
Django posted:
 

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

Sorry about that he is suited,

the list so bungled i missed his name.

Look at all the names that are acceptable on the list,they are all East Indians [bear in mind they are 39.8 % of the population] and that is an insult to the Educated and moderate Afro Guyanese and Amerindians.

Granger pick of Patterson,may have some sinister move,my suspicion there will be delayed 2020 Elections,we will find out.

You might have a point there if the aim is to delay the elections.  I am not sure what they stand to gain by delaying the election one year if they have to look for another  GECOM Chairman.

Django - BTW the PNC won with an Indian  GECOM Chairman, what do they have to fair from honest non-aligned Indians?

I am in agreement,

it's just a hunch why Granger picked Patterson.

Bhai, the PPP hounded that guy out,he said you will be shocked to know who try to pad the SOP in 2015 Elections.

If it was the PPP, then wouldn't it make the case even stronger that there are honorable Indians that could have been selected for the job?

FM
VVP posted:
Django posted:
VVP posted:
Django posted:
 

Wouldn't you put Chris Ram in the same category as Joe Singh? 

But the thing is Granger just had to select ONLY one person.  If there is one person in the list better than the dead man Patterson then Granger would have failed miserably. 

Sorry about that he is suited,

the list so bungled i missed his name.

Look at all the names that are acceptable on the list,they are all East Indians [bear in mind they are 39.8 % of the population] and that is an insult to the Educated and moderate Afro Guyanese and Amerindians.

Granger pick of Patterson,may have some sinister move,my suspicion there will be delayed 2020 Elections,we will find out.

You might have a point there if the aim is to delay the elections.  I am not sure what they stand to gain by delaying the election one year if they have to look for another  GECOM Chairman.

Django - BTW the PNC won with an Indian  GECOM Chairman, what do they have to fair from honest non-aligned Indians?

I am in agreement,

it's just a hunch why Granger picked Patterson.

Bhai, the PPP hounded that guy out,he said you will be shocked to know who try to pad the SOP in 2015 Elections.

If it was the PPP, then wouldn't it make the case even stronger that there are honorable Indians that could have been selected for the job?

Point taken,also we should not cast aside  that there are honorable Afro's.

Patterson may not fit,bad choice by Granger,still can't understand why the rush.

Django
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It is not surprising as slop can boy saw fit to post, the wpa will go the same route as the AFC and agree with the PNC in their choice of "the one foot in the grave" rigger Patterson. 

FM
Django posted:
kp posted:

In Guyana there is no such thing as independent  party. You are either with the PNC or against them.

Let me explain I am Independent [belong to no party] and so are my views.

Let me interject. I see you defending/praising many APNU+AFC moves but not a single PPP move. That sounds like bias, not independence.

Gilly lashes both APNU+AFC and PPP but I am sincere to say that I'm now leaning towards PPP but will not lay down my whip against PPP. 

Django, if you continue describing yourself as "independent" many people will laff till dem belly bus. The honorable thing to do is to declare sincerely that you have a clear preference for APNU+AFC and move on. I, Gilbakka, will respect that. That's a promise.

FM

Interestingly it seems that the WPA was not confident enough to establish that Granger's unilateral appointment of old man Patterson was legal. They needed a crutch, so they felt the need to pretend they knew what Jagdeo intended when he submitted his list. Interestingly, Jagdeo listed Christopher Ram first on his first list. A lawyer who just recently took Jagdeo to court for allegedly racial speech. But according to Carib, Jagdeo did not list any afro Guyanese acceptable to Granger. My guess is that Granger would have even found gentle Jesus unfit and improper.

FM
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

But you are here to carry AFC/PNC filth.

I am here as an Independent sharing my views,

you on the other hand are supporting the PPP and seems to dislike Independents.

Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

But you are here to carry AFC/PNC filth.

I am here as an Independent sharing my views,

you on the other hand are supporting the PPP and seems to dislike Independents.

Poor logic if you think that criticizing the coalition or its actions is supporting the ppp. These issues I discuss are national,issues and not ppp issues

Z
Django posted:
Zed posted:
 

Assuming that you caterization of those individuals are correct, are we to assume that if someone has a leaning towards the PPP. Then that person is not fit and proper?

Then, how do you justify Patterson since he has a leaning towards the PNC and has lied on his resume. Is he fit and proper? Does he fit all the criteria Granger had demanded, especially does he have wide knowledge and experience in administering elections.

So, is a lawyer who represents a client in court, he has a leaning towards the philosophy of that individual? Also, as far as I know, the PPP nor Jagdeo never filed a third term lawsuit. Also, what about BS Roy. Why is he not fit and proper because he made a ruling supported by another learned judge?

also, what about Annette Arjuna Martin. Who is she leaning towards? What is your objection? Same for Earnest La Fleur, Datadin and the others you have not highlighted?

what is the problem with joe Singh? Is he PPP learning, not fit and able? He has conducted elections. Has integrity, impartial as far as we know.

From your highlights, 50 percent of the three lists were still fit and proper. And please do not give me the story that the whole list has to be fit and able. That is like goat shit waiting  for breeze to blow.

I think that you got some talking points someplace and sticking by it. Trying to obfuscate by such nonsense. 

I have more to say but no time. I am going to a function and I will pray that you use your god given sense and not think that we are stupid or use the usual  refrain that who criticize Granger on this issue are ppp supporters. Should we use the same logic with you?

Spoken like a true Jagdeo follower,who the fella Richardson was instigated by to challenge the Presidential term limits??

Jagdeo have ambitions to be become President again,may be you don't observe that,my take is it will back fire.

Please give your sources to verify that Richardson was instigated by Jagdeo to make the court challenge. Or are you throwing tea leaves?

jagdeo has repeatedly said that he was not interested in being president again. Until you can prove otherwise, then this idea of yours is just smoke and not factual.

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