Leonora posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Baseman posted:

Ray posted:

Mental health is the go to excuse for white killers...everyone else are just murderers and rapists

Murderers and rapist are a result of a mental health condition.  Problem when Whites go mental, they get bad ass!

When white people do the mass killing, it is because of mental illness? Who is your audience? Primary school dropouts?

Remember that nut who killed his mom; then the school principal, staff members and kids at the Connecticut school? They blamed it on mental illness, covered it all up, and everyone forgot it. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...tary_School_shooting

The kid had severe mental problems. The school had to assign him a buddy bodyguard to follow him because of his looks. All the blame should have been on his mom for taking him target practice and not securing her firearms. Unfortunately, his mom was his first victim.

If killing people because you do not like them is a mental disease then that is the context from which America emerged. It literally, articulated and  prosecuted a genocidal movement to kill as many Red people it could and wipe away the cultures of the remainder.

We do not even know how many died...the estimates are anywhere from 8 to 80 million!. And then there were the over 2 million slaves brought in. America was never a record of mans charity to man. It was never about one people before god. It was a hierarchical structure with white men at the top and all others below and without  political voice.

America became and is becoming that shining light on the hill. Trump is a rock in the path of that ideal.  We should not be arguing about who is mentally ill but begin a search for a holistic approach to guns. This kind of ransom killing is a disease unique to this country among modern democracies. It is therefore not a disease but a cultivated event nurtured by a whole spectrum of things from racism to easy access to guns  to the NRA and Trump. All must be looked at

Well said!!

AK 47 and other guns are built to take out many people in a short time. WTF does a hunter need this for, to take down a herd of Buffalo in a few seconds?

These weapons should never be on the market. Why is it so dam difficult to stop their sales?

An AK-47 is a lousy gun to hunt with because of its accuracy with animals at a distance. You are not going to hit any animal far away. It is good against an animal that is charging at you and is up close to you. Canada has some restrictions on these weapons. In a war the AK-47 is a very sturdy weapon to have.  You can cover it with mud. You can drop it in water or throw sand and dust on it and it will still fire. A Glock handgun has the same sturdiness.  You can put it in a hole and cover it with sand for two years and it will still fire after those two years.

Stormborn posted:

 

You think the Proud boys or any of the Nazi groups care about the distinction? You and Ronan need to improve your understanding by having it match and experience of the facts by visiting any of the chan sites for an education. They make no distinction. If you are not white you are not them. Note they even have a distinction between themselves and some white folks as well.

Interesting fact.  Before the brown folks were targeted they used to join with the white folks against the blacks.  Peddling the same stereotypes.  Look at the Arabs in Michigan as an example.  Proud Republicans until 9/11 when suddenly life changed.  With South Asians undergoing a similar transformation.

Now that they are targeted all of a sudden its "we people of color".  Not impressed!  Blacks have had to cope with racism and the browns NEVER assisted us, so we don't need their help now! So often being used by whites as they were so eager to play the "model minority" game.

My experience is that the browns have a record of often being even more racist towards blacks than many whites have been.  Ksazma and his crew being exhibits of this.  Clambering on the backs of the black struggle when they become targeted and many gullible black Americans, who think that only whites are racist towards them, sometimes fall for this "black and brown people together" issue.  How many of them were there when police were gunning down blacks?  No doubt cheering on the cops and wailing about how thuggish black people are.

The ungrateful wretches don't even thank black people for their presence in the USA because it was the environment created by the Civil Rights movement which allowed immigration laws to be changed to allow people who weren't northern European to gain easy legal access to this country.

The WORSt TERRORIST in the world is President of Guyana. Go figure!!!!!!!!

Baseman posted:

The Dayton shooter is one ayuh bais, leftist extremists, anti republicans, anti Trump, anti police, pro Antifa, etc.  

Exactly!

Dave posted:

This is what Donald Trump said below  and this forcker preach and instigate  “ HATE” on a daily basis.  

The El Paso shooter was driven by hate,  that US was under invasion by immigrants, this as connection to Trump calling “ Go Back To Your Country”  and his numerous immigrations reforms.  

“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun,” said U.S. President Donald Trump as he addressed his nation on” 

The issue is complex and can usually be explained by these lonely and socially isolated young white men who blame others for their problems.  Some blame women, some nonwhites and some don't even know who and why they hate.

The issue is that they can acquire guns very easily especially in Red states so they then "punish" the world for their problems.

We need tighter gun laws?  Why is there more regulation about who can acquire and use a car than there is for a gun?

How the hell would I be around when cops are shooting blacks? Those blacks are being shot because they are breaking some law. You wouldn’t find me in any law breaking crowd.

ksazma posted:

How the hell would I be around when cops are shooting blacks? Those blacks are being shot because they are breaking some law. You wouldn’t find me in any law breaking crowd.

and here is why I don't buy this "black and brown kumbaya" moments.  This brown man screams the same bilge on this subject as does Trump, so why should I shed tears when Trump sends his goons after him?  He isn't the only brown one with this perspective.

I am not concerned about my status in America. When I left Guyana, it was a very lawless place where you don’t get anything done unless you know someone or pay some form of bribery. What I reached in was a place where you can have a very rewarding life if you stay on the side of the law and live decently. Keep in mind that the activists who are criticizing the difference between how the police treat whites versus blacks are not denying that the black they are advocating for did not commit a crime. They are just saying that the law is more severe to blacks. You may be comfortable with blacks committing crimes. I am not nor do I care to excuse them. For that matter, anyone who commit crimes will not find any comforting words from me.

I ain’t kumbayaing with no criminal. You don’t get my sympathy just because you are black.

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

This is what Donald Trump said below  and this forcker preach and instigate  “ HATE” on a daily basis.  

The El Paso shooter was driven by hate,  that US was under invasion by immigrants, this as connection to Trump calling “ Go Back To Your Country”  and his numerous immigrations reforms.  

“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun,” said U.S. President Donald Trump as he addressed his nation on” 

The issue is complex and can usually be explained by these lonely and socially isolated young white men who blame others for their problems.  Some blame women, some nonwhites and some don't even know who and why they hate.

The issue is that they can acquire guns very easily especially in Red states so they then "punish" the world for their problems.

We need tighter gun laws?  Why is there more regulation about who can acquire and use a car than there is for a gun?

To carry guns is an old American tradition. Why should White ppl give in to the aleins in their midst.

Those who influenced White American lives are responisible for the carnage. They have removed prayers in schools and as for God, the American politicians are more concerned about those who worship other gods than theirs. Political Correctness is going to destroy the fabric of the American society. Take note of the Democrats, what American do they speak of, all the time about Trump. People elect leaders in line with the thinking of the citizens. The Democrats destroyed the country resulting in Trump being The Man.    

The politicians in America are as mediocre as the ones in Guyana. They all pander to their bases. The difference why America will always march forward while Guyana will continue to sink deeper into the shithole is that when elections come up in America, they are held without excuses, threats or failure. And when the results require a transfer of power, that is done peacefully. Those are not qualities that exist in Guyana's political system.

The current cast of Democrats vying for the presidency lacks any dominating quality to excite voters. Even with all his gaffs, the most comfortable vote for a Democrat is Biden who is already 76 and would 78 if elected. I like Buttigieg because he is very composed and would be a level headed president if elected.

Just another note on timeliness, Broward County submitted their recount result 2 minutes late and it was rejected as missing the deadline. So how late is the Constitutional mandated elections after the successful passage of last year's NCV again?

Expanding further on the Broward County recount, the 2 minutes delay was caused by a computer glitch. I believe the recount results were due by 3PM and when I awoke that morning, the news was reporting that Broward County finished their recount overnight, hours ahead of the 3PM submission deadline. Why they wait until just before 3PM to submit it was never disclosed as the new news was about the alleged incompetence of the Elections Supervisor. Nevertheless, Broward County did not go on and on about it was not their fault but the computer glitch. They did not insist on a revised deadline nor did they start making one straw clutching delay excuse after another like what the Coalition is shamelessly doing right now in Guyana.

Kaz, you worrying more about dem people than those living in Guyana.

cain posted:

Kaz, you worrying more about dem people than those living in Guyana.

Them people in Guyana is very Happy. U should be worry that summer is coming to an end and you cannot see them naked skin chicks by the lake. 

You right banna, I got to hang out tomorrow to try and fatten the eyes and keep the memories throughout the winter.

cain posted:

You right banna, I got to hang out tomorrow to try and fatten the eyes and keep the memories throughout the winter.

A group of family and friends went to the beach last week. We set up a tent and had tons of fun in the water. Summer memories usually get me through the winter blues.  

cain posted:

Kaz, you worrying more about dem people than those living in Guyana.

Bai, nah read too much into all the stuff I write here or how virulent my posts are. I just have too much time on my hand nowadays. 

At the end of the day, the voters in Guyana will chose their leaders and they will have to live with their choices.

I give you an example. There are two people visiting from Guyana right now and while one of them was talking about the current political situation in Guyana, the other never mentioned it. For that reason, I never asked him about it nor attempted to point out my point of view.

My main concern is the wellbeing of my two children and everything else is secondary. 

seignet posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

This is what Donald Trump said below  and this forcker preach and instigate  “ HATE” on a daily basis.  

The El Paso shooter was driven by hate,  that US was under invasion by immigrants, this as connection to Trump calling “ Go Back To Your Country”  and his numerous immigrations reforms.  

“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun,” said U.S. President Donald Trump as he addressed his nation on” 

The issue is complex and can usually be explained by these lonely and socially isolated young white men who blame others for their problems.  Some blame women, some nonwhites and some don't even know who and why they hate.

The issue is that they can acquire guns very easily especially in Red states so they then "punish" the world for their problems.

We need tighter gun laws?  Why is there more regulation about who can acquire and use a car than there is for a gun?

To carry guns is an old American tradition. Why should White ppl give in to the aleins in their midst.

Those who influenced White American lives are responisible for the carnage. They have removed prayers in schools and as for God, the American politicians are more concerned about those who worship other gods than theirs. Political Correctness is going to destroy the fabric of the American society. Take note of the Democrats, what American do they speak of, all the time about Trump. People elect leaders in line with the thinking of the citizens. The Democrats destroyed the country resulting in Trump being The Man.    

White people did come with guns and wrecked havoc on the lives of the original peoples here killing between 8 to 80 million depending on whom you ask. Aliens were not in their midst. They were the aliens.The very act of such murderous history should nurture a sense of contrition. And they have; emerging from a chattel slave holding  culture with ideas of human hierarchies with them at the top to the reasonable one that we are all the same specie and no evidence exists for melanin being the source of inequality. 

The idea that the Abrahamic religion is the white man's religion is also myth. It was nurtured and cared for and given structure in north Africa with most of the early church fathers from Clement, Origen, Athanasius,  Cyril. Tertullian. Augustine etc being of Africa.  The consecration of the biblical cannon was not a white man's project but from these very brown people.  Even Jesus could not have by any stretch of the imagination be white given where he was from. 

If you care for history you will realize every good thing that came to america from civil rights to environmentalism and workers safety came from democrats. All republicans are good at is feeding the one percent and creating deficits. 

Christ came from the Bossom of the Father, who rsides in Heaven. 

The world has its own cycles. The muslims took Constantinople and white slave trade was cut off from Western Europe. Just as Columbus visits Isabella to go to the New World, she agreed because she wanted gold to finance the war against the muslims. Before that, Western Europe was in West African Slave trade on a small scale. Full blown without a hitch, White Slave Trade drastically curtailed bcz of the muslims invasion, Black Slave Trade just increase and increase as the New World needed labor.

There are no long term solutions, each generation deal with the dilemma of the times. 

seignet posted:

There are no long term solutions, each generation deal with the dilemma of the times. 

I agree with this Siggy. Indeed, a lot of the rights and privileges we enjoy today were not intended in the same form when they were first being contemplated. There were revisions along he way to where they are currently and as time progresses, they will continue to experience further revisions because the era will dictate the necessary need.

Stormborn posted:

seignet posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

This is what Donald Trump said below  and this forcker preach and instigate  “ HATE” on a daily basis.  

The El Paso shooter was driven by hate,  that US was under invasion by immigrants, this as connection to Trump calling “ Go Back To Your Country”  and his numerous immigrations reforms.  

“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun,” said U.S. President Donald Trump as he addressed his nation on” 

The issue is complex and can usually be explained by these lonely and socially isolated young white men who blame others for their problems.  Some blame women, some nonwhites and some don't even know who and why they hate.

The issue is that they can acquire guns very easily especially in Red states so they then "punish" the world for their problems.

We need tighter gun laws?  Why is there more regulation about who can acquire and use a car than there is for a gun?

To carry guns is an old American tradition. Why should White ppl give in to the aleins in their midst.

Those who influenced White American lives are responisible for the carnage. They have removed prayers in schools and as for God, the American politicians are more concerned about those who worship other gods than theirs. Political Correctness is going to destroy the fabric of the American society. Take note of the Democrats, what American do they speak of, all the time about Trump. People elect leaders in line with the thinking of the citizens. The Democrats destroyed the country resulting in Trump being The Man.    

White people did come with guns and wrecked havoc on the lives of the original peoples here killing between 8 to 80 million depending on whom you ask. Aliens were not in their midst. They were the aliens.The very act of such murderous history should nurture a sense of contrition. And they have; emerging from a chattel slave holding  culture with ideas of human hierarchies with them at the top to the reasonable one that we are all the same specie and no evidence exists for melanin being the source of inequality. 

The idea that the Abrahamic religion is the white man's religion is also myth. It was nurtured and cared for and given structure in north Africa with most of the early church fathers from Clement, Origen, Athanasius,  Cyril. Tertullian. Augustine etc being of Africa.  The consecration of the biblical cannon was not a white man's project but from these very brown people.  Even Jesus could not have by any stretch of the imagination be white given where he was from. 

If you care for history you will realize every good thing that came to america from civil rights to environmentalism and workers safety came from democrats. All republicans are good at is feeding the one percent and creating deficits. 

You ever see those North African girls. Some of them are white as chalk and have red hair. The carib would run wild when he sees them. The white Jew, the white Arab and the white Christians dominate the top of Abrahamic religions. No place for brown Prashad.

Prashad posted:

Stormborn posted:

To carry guns is an old American tradition. Why should White ppl give in to the aleins in their midst.

Those who influenced White American lives are responisible for the carnage. They have removed prayers in schools and as for God, the American politicians are more concerned about those who worship other gods than theirs. Political Correctness is going to destroy the fabric of the American society. Take note of the Democrats, what American do they speak of, all the time about Trump. People elect leaders in line with the thinking of the citizens. The Democrats destroyed the country resulting in Trump being The Man.    

White people did come with guns and wrecked havoc on the lives of the original peoples here killing between 8 to 80 million depending on whom you ask. Aliens were not in their midst. They were the aliens.The very act of such murderous history should nurture a sense of contrition. And they have; emerging from a chattel slave holding  culture with ideas of human hierarchies with them at the top to the reasonable one that we are all the same specie and no evidence exists for melanin being the source of inequality. 

The idea that the Abrahamic religion is the white man's religion is also myth. It was nurtured and cared for and given structure in north Africa with most of the early church fathers from Clement, Origen, Athanasius,  Cyril. Tertullian. Augustine etc being of Africa.  The consecration of the biblical cannon was not a white man's project but from these very brown people.  Even Jesus could not have by any stretch of the imagination be white given where he was from. 

If you care for history you will realize every good thing that came to america from civil rights to environmentalism and workers safety came from democrats. All republicans are good at is feeding the one percent and creating deficits. 

You ever see those North African girls. Some of them are white as chalk and have red hair. The carib would run wild when he sees them. The white Jew, the white Arab and the white Christians dominate the top of Abrahamic religions. No place for brown Prashad.

Prashad, what is this obsession with fair-skinned women and white women?

They think brown skin Prashad inferior just like Caribj and friends.

Prashad posted:

They think brown skin Prashad inferior just like Caribj and friends.

I do not think what some of them think of you...they are Africans..and only a few are fair skinned. It does not mean the church fathers were Europeans and Christianity is a white religion as Lionel suggests. 

Stormborn you certainly have limited contact with North Africans. Presently the Black man can be sold into slavery if he goes to certain parts there.

Prashad posted:

Stormborn you certainly have limited contact with North Africans. Presently the Black man can be sold into slavery if he goes to certain parts there.

Your presumed greater contact will not change facts. They are not white! Every place on the planet still have slaves. One accounting said the good old US has thousands of forced laborers.