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Reply to "100s silently forced to resign – Opposition Leader Jagdeo"

Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by TK:

There is a lot of truth regarding the harassment of East Indians perceived to be PPP supporters. A family member of mine was constantly harassed. He always voted AFC. He is kind of like a maverick like me...so he stood his ground and fought. The problem is the PPP has no credibility. And when they use Raj Singh and Dindyal as the model of victimization no one except the Indo racists will take them seriously.

The disease in this is the PPP did it routinely and never called their harangue or racist spouting harassment. Indians accepted.  Satteur is an example. What he did was obscene and the PPP allowed it. The Ramotar children were accepted because they supposedly had the credentials. That they supplanted people with similar credentials was nary a worry.  This is a disease.

 

Granger's talk of inclusion is farcical. He can think himself jesus and wish that others come to break bread but I will declare it here and now, he is wasting his time. The PPP is in election mode and they aim to win the prize of office as an ethnic prize an for that reason they will massage every avenue to highlight the "plight" of indians at the hands of the black man and black culture.

 

The barrage of distorting commentaries from the Times is not happenstance. It is design. This ides that the budget does not conform to any clearly formalize strategy for development is the PPP campaigning. They never sought to explain their budgeting allocations, account for how it was spent and for any of the excesses to their friends and family. It was not  nepotism; it was practice. It will bother them now.

 

Our problem is to not let the next election cycle comes around with race being the seed of our political disputes. That alas is me wishing with my penny in the local fountain. Maybe I should just wish and retrieve the penny for a more fruitful possibility

You are an idiot, with a closed mind, who is so blinded by hate for the PPP as the cause of all Guyana's problems. You sound as if the PPP has done some terrible injustice to you and you are gunning for vengeance. Your diatribe will not fool anyone here...go back and review your words...all of them display an attack on the PPP but you praise every action of the coalition.  

 

I agree that Granger's plans for inclusion is farcical...but at least I am willing to give him a chance to see what he is willing to do in terms of policy to bring the nation together. So far, since this is the major problem facing us in Guyana, and one that threatens to diminish any economic and social gains this regime can salvage, Granger as not, as a leader utter a single word in the form of a major speech addressing this problem. It continues to fester. Iam also hearing through the grapevine that Granger might be ill and that the old guard PNC may be running the show from the shadows. Not sure how much of this is true.   I also have a few stories like TK about family members who were harassed (and I will argue that some of these cases may fall into the category of perception and fear)...but you would think that the govt will address them...but no they continue to let the perception of harassment and "ethnic cleansing".

 

However, you knuckleheads must understand also that Moses and Ramjattan are fair game for criticisms. They went out to bring in the 11% to give the coalition its victory. 

 

In addition, as long as this racial problem is not addressed, it will continue to plague us. It will be an issue in the next election. AND, yes, the PPP will milk it....they have a right to do so as long as the problem is not addressed.

 

You will loose your penny.

I would be an idiot if I dreamed of impossible things. ONe does not get rid of racism by taking selective stance of wishing it away and hope for good men to come out of the wood works. I have been here since time immemorial commenting on the same and there is evidence in the world's literature that without institutional fences to contain the boundaries of ethnic expressions to good ends it will not grow in fruitful ways. That is why we have rules for every conceivable thing on the planet that is necessary and just.

 

When the PPP came into office I defended jagdeo, expressed hope that he being young would see a difference because he had the recent burnham years as a guide of what not to do.

 

Instead he did the most brazen thing and ignored all pretenses to democratic government and went on a rampage of one man rule with corruption being his only legacy to us. The PPP are who they presently are because of his complete and total neglect of what is right.

 

I do not give a damn about whose family member was harassed as evidence of nepotism or corruption. That is not going to change my position that the PPP has and never intend to be fruitful for real change and were masters of manipulating the system to foster nepotism and by that injuring the black people of our land.

 

Granger's expression of inclusion has to come with hard line positions. Inclusions has to come with a refashioning of the institutions and not via elite accommodations. You are the one being the ass if you think that is not the necessary path for any idea of inclusion.

 

 

 

You are missing the point knucklehead. Perceptions are real...that is the start of the basis of a process of healing and nation-building. You ignore the point raised by TK...we have to start from somewhere to solve the racial problem. If the perception among the rank and file is that racism is practised by the coalition, it has to be addresses. And, if racism was practiced by the PPP, it has to be addressed also. The problem is that it is not. 

 

On your question of elite accommodation, you are dead wrong. Our ideas are shaped by our leaders. Any kind of power sharing or policies designed to promote national unity has to be accepted by the elite (our national leaders) first and once accepted, it has to be transferred to the rank and file. THEN, it has to become institutioinalized and supported by laws and it has to be taught as part of our "civic curriculum". Otherwise, it will be derailed from the onset, based on our divided lens through which we view politics in Guyana. You are putting the cart before the horse. If you do not understand this, your idiocy and blindness (which you have been lacing on this site for many years by your own admission), will continue to see the Guyana Times as promoting racism.

 

The other issue is that by dehumanizing the leader of the opposition, despite the accusations of nepotism and corruption, by the likes of you and the other knuckleheads like Carib, Rudux, Jalil and others (while demonstrating an unwillingness to criticize the coalition), you are taking a jaundiced approach to the problem.  Both sides have to be criticized for their inactions on this issues. 

First of all I know where TK stands and you do not since we have discussed this on going for close to a decade. I cannot miss his view point when we are of the similar view.

 

And since when perceptions are real? Perceptions are unprocessed inputs and their reality lies in the possibility for their selection in  conception of something meaningful. 99 percent of perception is discarded as incidential to what is meaningful at the moment.

 

If TK has a family member who is harassed for being a PPP member that is still statistically null is one is to posit APNU's racism. It is his perception that something more onerous is at work but at the same time more input is necessary for a conclusion to  predicate them as rabidly anti Indian. The PPP is an indian party and the APNU is a black party so the status quo is they are in an ethnically adversarial role due to our political reality!

 

By definition also power sharing is elite accommodation. I did not ask a question of it since I know what I said in a carefully phrased declarative sentence. No more need to be said of that.

 

As an aside,  Granger is not my leader. I did not pick him or was jagdeo. The fact they are there is because the choices I would want can never get on the event horizon of guyanese politics which is pure and simple political elide dominated from time immemorial.

 

Jagdeo is a crook. No one can demonize him. He did it all by himself. That he is there is on account of his dominance of the PPP which exists because of ethnic nepotism. His days however is numbered.

 

He disgusts most of the people that matters and those wishing to swallow truth and live in the reflected glory of his ill begotten wealth and those of his few friends are the few who care for him. Do not count PPP allegiance as love for that narcotizing canker  on our body politic.

 

FM
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