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‘Fip’ Motilall to receive US$12M if Amaila goes ahead

 

Posted By Staff Writer On August 4, 2013 @ 5:20 am In Local News | No Comments

Original Amaila Falls developer ‘Fip’ Motilall will be paid US$12 million at the financial closure of the project and he has explained how it was that his company Synergy Holdings Inc and its minority partner Enventure Inc transferred the licence to Sithe Global – the developer since 2009.

 

He has also made reference to US law which requires that supporting documentation for a multilateral project has to be made public in the United States for at least 120 days before American representatives can vote on it. The IDB is due to vote on the project in October, and if the American representatives abstain, Motilall said, it would be difficult for the project to pass.

 

Motilall said that of the US$12 million that he will receive upon financial closure of the project, 30 per cent goes to Enventure Partners. “What remains – US$7 million plus – goes towards paying back the US$5 million I spent onthis job already, Harza Engineering, and loans I took from relatives,” he said.

 
This money is separate and apart from the US$5.8 million that he received from government for the partial completion of the road before his contract as the Amaila road contractor was terminated.

 

“It might be said that I have my own selfish reasons for wanting the project to go forward, but I spent 15 years of my life on it,” Motilall said. He said that this involved monies spent to build the original access road, and costs associated with environmental and feasibility studies in the late 1990s.

 

In answering critics about the licence transfer, Motilall said that the Hydro Power Act is clear on this. “When Sithe Global came on board and they were about to embark on this multi-million dollar investment to do the feasibility and environmental impact study of the project, their board required full control of the project. So they approached me saying that they wanted 100 per cent control. Right now Amaila Falls Hydro Inc owns 100 per cent of the licence. They want to be able to make decisions on the fly and they did not want a minority partner,” he explained. He said that at that time Synergy and Enventure had owned the licence on a 70/30 split arrangement.

 

“Upon Sithe’s insistence of being in full control we came to Government and asked that the licence be transferred,” he said, adding that this was in 2009.

He said that for all of the outlays he made and the loans he took, a mathematical calculation determined that the sum of US$12 million was a fair sum to be paid to Motilall.


US approval

 

Motilall sounded a warning about the project’s approval by the IDB noting that because of US laws, all of the supporting documentation must be settled upon and made public in the US for at least 120 days.

 

“The IDB board is to vote on the project in October. They have a policy which states that the finished deal has to sit on their website for 120 days and after that, then and only then the US contingent and representatives can vote,” he said. He was referring to the Nancy Pelosi Amendment which requires US directors of multilateral agencies to abstain or vote against any proposed action with significant environmental effects if it has not received the appropriate environmental assessment or if the assessment has not been available to the executive directors and the public for at least 120 days. “It is not that that cannot go to a vote, but if they go to a vote before the 120 days, the US will abstain. If the US – which controls 40 per cent of the IDB board – abstains, it will be very difficult for this to pass,” he said. He added this is so because Sithe Global is a US based company.

 

“We must get the US to vote for this project and the IDB needs to put on its website the documents as soon as possible. If August, September and October go by and they voted in November we still could meet this deadline,” he said. He said that on the environmental side, documents showing that the project would not damage the eco-systems around it must go up on the website for the 120-day period, while on the economic side, there must be documentation demonstrating that the Guyana Power and Light is able to meet its payment to the Amaila hydro company or the guarantee that if GPL does not pay, then the government as guarantor will cover GPL’s liabilities.

 

“From my understanding from talking to Sithe and talking to the government both sets of documentation [environmental and economic] must go in the site at the same time,” he said.


“Further, I think Sithe is very serious in what they said to the opposition. If the country cannot come to a consensus they will pull out. These guys do projects all over the world, they don’t want to be tied to any appearance of corruption,” he said.

 

“If the project does not close by December and the Chinese exercise their right for rate of exchange correction, which I think they will, that is another 10 per cent adjustment or an additional US$50 million based on the EPC price of just over US$500 million,” he said.

 

He said that based on the work done by Harza in the early years, the project is a well-engineered one. “This project is well-built… it is engineered by Harza. They built 80 per cent of the hydros around the world. They are the owners’ engineer on this project. So China Rail will have to follow the specifications of Harza, which will have people on site ensuring that it is built to specification,” he said.

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We should return to the energy drawing board

 

Posted By Staff Writer On August 4, 2013 @ 5:02 am In Letters | No Comments

 

Dear Editor,

 

Thanks to relentless scrutiny from the opposition political parties and informed patriots like Mr Christopher Ram, Mr Ramond Gaskin and others, the people have finally received some data and information on the proposed US$858M Amaila Falls Hydroelectric Project. The public can only make informed decisions if they have information and data.

 

Given the revealed information it appears as if the choices the nation faces are (i) invest today in a risky high-priced project for future gains in terms of reduced electricity price and foreign exchange savings; or (ii) return to the drawing board and come up with a better priced project (with acceptable risks) for achieving the same reduced electricity price and foreign exchange savings.


Guyanese have been assured by Mr Brassington and the President of Sithe that the unit price of electricity will decline immediately as the project comes on stream. I hope that the government has enshrined this projection into a contract. According to Sithe’s President the present cost of electricity is US 30 cents and US 19 cents per kilowatt hour depending on whether diesel or heavy fuel oil (HFO) is used. This is projected to decline to US 11 cents per Kwh in the first 12 years, then to US 5.6 cents from year 13 and eventually to US 1.8 cents after year 20. This appears like a big saving in the future if the nation is willing to pay the high initial investment cost, which involves great risks given the recent history in Guyana with large and small projects alike. However, the recent disclosures stopped short of saying what demand projections were made in the cost-benefit analysis to come up with the price structure given above.

 

The foreign exchange savings resulting from not importing fossil fuel are projected to be around US$200 million, according to Mr Brassington. However, this saving is dependent on whether the local demand for electricity exceeds 700 giga hours. If the demand remains around 700 to 750 giga hours, which is its present level, the savings would be around US$120 million per year as Mr Christopher Ram noted. The public was also not told what the annual operating cost of Amaila would be (including fees, risk insurance, maintenance, etc). But given the present demand of around 720 giga hours and using a suitable discount rate, the social net benefit of this project would be negative or just above zero. If negative, as I have always believed, the project is not socially feasible. The non-feasibility, of course, stems from the fact that the initial set up cost is so high. If just above zero, and given the risks (as can be deduced from the Skeldon sugar factory, Moca Moca hydro, Mazaruni hydro, etc), is it socially responsible to pursue this investment at this point in time? Note I am dealing here with the social cost-benefit instead of the private net present value, which is obviously positive since the private investor is earning a return of 19% on investment.

 

One thing to note is the fundamental changes that will come in the energy market in the next decade. The natural gas revolution in the United States is gaining steam. Ford announced a few days ago it will build a natural gas F150 truck. Several cities in the US have switched their buses to natural gas. This is likely to place downward pressure on the price of oil in the coming years, thus the US$200M might have to be revised downward. In this case the social viability of the project is even more questionable. Philosophically, however, I am of the view that Guyana should pursue renewable energy regardless of whether the price of oil falls or not. My view is production capacity must be developed, particularly in renewable energy.

 

The rate of interest of 8.5% appears high to me for a development project.  It would be interesting to know why the government has refused to deal with the World Bank in this instance. Given its low income status, Guyana could qualify for an interest rate of about 3.5% with very long payoff period. Does it have anything to do with Mr Ashni Singh’s fight with the Bank a few years ago? We know the World Bank is always serious about transparency and accountability. The opposition would have been given the information had the project been financed by the Bank. It seems like the PPP government is willing to pay a premium of about 5% so that this project can be sealed in secrecy. I like to call it the 5% corruption perception premium. I hope the Guyanese people see this as a cost they must bear because the PPP government wants limited accountability.

 

This takes us to the second option. Amaila will indeed save foreign exchange, but it has a steep initial cost plus its size means if something goes wrong then we have something really big going wrong – in other words the risks are very high. Nevertheless, with high risks could come high payoff from Amaila; as any first year finance student will know higher returns are associated with greater risks. I guess the people will have to decide. My preference would be to return to the drawing board. Establish a national renewable energy policy document, which should include a portfolio of renewable energy sources such as bagasse, ethanol, bio-diesel, hydroelectricity and other forms that will simultaneously engender inter-industry production linkages and ignite demand spill-overs among sectors in the economy. I would prefer working with the World Bank on a project of this magnitude. If the nation gets this right not only will the initial set up cost be about 40% lower, but also the same savings of foreign exchange will be realized. Spending prudently should be of utmost importance given the headwinds coming towards Guyana.

 

Yours faithfully,


Tarron Khemraj

FM

With the technology available today hydropower should not be considered feasible for countries close to the equator

 

Posted By Staff Writer On August 4, 2013 @ 5:03 am In Letters | No Comments

 

Dear Editor,

 

Effective emancipation must allow us to make genuine choices. This means we must have alternatives to choose from. Let us not be fooled that Amaila Falls hydropower is a unique opportunity; that if we miss this window of opportunity, we will miss the boat to take us out of the backwaters of civilization.

 

There are plenty solar ‘boats’ available, of all sizes from 2 kW for an average family house to 220 MW from the Charanka Solar Park in India for a lot of people. An accomplished energy consultant just a few months ago at a seminar at Red House put the cost of solar photovoltaic (PV) energy presently available to Guyana at US$4-5 per installed watt (W) for household or industrial use. On checking with a longstanding and knowledgeable local supplier of solar panels, this US$4-5 included the cost of the panels which after 20 years would only degrade 20%, sufficient deep cycle batteries to keep it for 10 years before replacement, inverter, controller, and the installation and commissioning of the whole system.

Comparing this with the 165 MW of Amaila hydropower for US$858M, the same 165 MW from the above described solar PVs @ US$5 per W, reckoned from 5 of our sunlight hours per day, would cost US$825M at today’s prices.

 

We are being terrorized by scenarios of escalating costs if we delay the Amaila hydro. This is not so with solar power. Costs have dropped from US$25 per installed W in 1980 to US$4 per installed W in 2009. As time goes by they will get even cheaper. Evidence for this is that the abovementioned Charanka Solar Park in India achieved its 220 MW in 2012 with an investment of US$280M in thin film solar technology, ie, at just over US$1 per installed watt. With the technology available today, hydropower should become an aspect of history, no longer to be considered feasible for tropical countries close to the equator.

It is instructive to consider how India can get that kind of value for money in 2012, while we can only access a quarter in 2013. It has a lot to do with transparency, knowledge, understanding, and yes, wisdom – things that are not even recognized here by our ruling politicians, much less valued – above party loyalty and greed.

 

Your report in SN of Saturday July 27 that the Prime Minister suddenly revealed that “a review” of GPL indicated that it needs foreign managers and US$250M irked me no end. He revealed the bankruptcy of that revelation when he mixed up his tenses: the foreign managers and US$250M are supposed to be in preparation for Amaila (which is the future), but he proceeded to congratulate the GPL management for having already provided electricity without the foreign managers and US$250M (which is the past). The venerable gentleman continues to demonstrate he is long past his sell-by date and should retire with his pension, but leave the energy sector in the hands of the young fellows of the GEA instead of another confused politician to bankrupt the country further.

 

If they want to throw that kind of money somewhere let them cast it without strings at UG to educate the nation in science, technology and mathematics, under someone like Prof Clive Thomas who understands development and Guyana, and with whose analysis and recommendation for the Amaila Falls Project I agree. A sufficiently educated electorate might be more discriminating in choosing its politicians to not be the source of its troubles. And we Guyanese must learn to stand or fall by our own experts and not live beyond our means by begging from other countries or the IDB or awaiting their blessings.

 

The great advantage of solar power is that with wise administration it can be tailored to what we can afford at any time. The Amaila Falls Hydro reservoir would cover 27 sq km of land with water and render that area unproductive for much else. At a very conservative 100 W per sq metre we would need only 1.65 sq km of useful sheltered land area for 165MW of solar energy. Had we wise administration at UG some years ago, we might even have been on the way to manufacturing solar PVs from our own abundant high quality silica sands.

 

Yours faithfully,
Alfred Bhulai
Energy technologist

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

FM

Politicians must not allow Amaila to become another Skeldon Plant or Berbice Bridge – Dr. Janette Bulkan

AUGUST 4, 2013 | BY  | FILED UNDER NEWS 
 

“Even if late in the day, now is the time to have expert independent input and check on the project developer’s figures, to inform the members of all political parties in the National Assembly and civil society in general.  It is surely not acceptable for the Government to try to co-opt individuals by taking them into private meetings and showing them documents; that is neither transparency nor the freedom to receive information which is assured by Article 146 of the National Constitution.”

By Abena Rockcliffe

 

The saying, “those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” was the stark reminder of Dr. Janette Bulkan, as she appealed to politicians to not have the Amaila Falls Hydro Electric Project become a repeat of the Skeldon Sugar Factory or the Berbice River Bridge.
“Guyanese cannot afford to subsidise another investment like the Berbice River Bridge.”
Dr. Bulkan is an anthropologist who has been quite vocal on issues regarding Guyana’s forestry practices and more recently the Amaila Falls Hydro Project.


Dr. Janette Bulkan

In a recent open letter to the media, Bulkan urged that politicians be cognizant of the mistakes Guyana made in the past as it relates to project investments. She singled out as glaring examples the Berbice River Bridge, the Skeldon Plant and the controversial Marriott Hotel.
Dr. Bulkan is asking for parliamentarians to seek a ’Green Paper’ which she said will help to avert another failed project.


A ‘Green Paper,’ can be defined as a discussion document intended to stimulate debate and launch a process of consultation on a particular topic. It usually presents a range of ideas and is meant to invite interested individuals or organizations to contribute views and information.


It may be followed by a ‘White Paper’—an official set of proposals.
Bulkan said that a ‘Green Paper’ should be independently done on the Amaila Falls project.Contacted yesterday, she told Kaieteur News that an independent expert opinion on the Amaila project “is very well needed.”


Bulkan who emphasized that she is a “concerned citizen,” advised that such a document will weigh the pros and cons of the Amaila project.
In her appeal to politicians, Bulkan expressed that “the briefings provided by the Sithe Global/Blackstone Group to the Parliamentary Sectoral Committees on Natural Resources and Economic Services and to the National Stakeholders Forum are no substitute for a Green Paper that includes the findings of independent objective technical and financial assessments.”


She referred to the National Stakeholders’ Forum on Wednesday last, where “Sithe Global stressed that it had spent US$16M and six years so far on the Amaila project; although it was not explained how the money had been spent other than ‘hundreds of scientists working on environmental issues” and said that it was odd that there are no published reports from these hundreds of scientists in the public domain.


Dr Bulkan, in her appeal requested politicians to adequately register the need for an independent green paper.


“If Guyanese taxpayers had had the benefit of an external review, we might have been spared the debt burden of the white elephant named Skeldon Sugar Factory whose costs to date are US$200M, and counting.”


She added that Guyanese might have had an alignment of the Berbice River Bridge that did not turn New Amsterdam into a backwater settlement; a toll that did not cost G$2,200 per car versus the Demerara River Bridge toll of G$200 per car.
“While the Berbice River Bridge was being constructed, the majority of poor Berbicians might have thought that they would be paying the same toll as the Demerara River bridge commuters. They lost corn and husk: there is no alternative cheap ferry. They must use the Berbice River Bridge. Wealthy investors are the principal beneficiaries of that bridge; the State has been foregoing revenues so that the privileged investors can earn dividends,” Bulkan stated.


She also said that the use of taxpayers’ money to fund the construction of a casino/hotel named the Marriott, by a Chinese company, using Chinese labour, and that will bring no named social or economic benefits to Guyana, could have also been avoided.


“Dr Luncheon has already signaled that the casino will be sold…Guyanese have been speculating on the identity of the likely beneficiaries. We would not have embarked on an unnecessary expansion of the Timehri Airport at great social and economic cost.”


“The drip, drip, drip of varying estimates of the component costs of this major construction project and associated commercial debts give no confidence that the Government knows what it is agreeing to with Sithe Global Inc. – whose only other venture into hydropower is the expensive and poorly-managed construction at Bujagali in Uganda, although the same personnel working for another Sithe company are said to have built other hydels. No details were provided other than a dam in Philippines.  Sithe clearly does not want to get sucked into questions about the management and capabilities of GPL and whether GPL can pay the future debt in full and on time.”


Bulkan also pointed out that the current draft agreement commits to Sithe getting the first cut of GPL income paid into Republic Bank, before GPL itself gets any money to pay its own costs.


However, Blackstone/Sithe confirmed that they would be willing to assist in the preparation of a Green Paper to the National Assembly, laying out objectively, in sufficient detail, the pros and cons of different options for future supply of electricity, including the final line item costs to the Guyanese taxpayer. Until now, the Government appears to have been considering only the single option of Amaila Falls and only cost estimates provided by the project partners.


“Even if late in the day, now is the time to have expert independent input and check on the project developer’s figures, to inform the members of all political parties in the National Assembly and civil society in general.  It is surely not acceptable for the Government to try to co-opt individuals by taking them into private meetings and showing them documents; that is neither transparency nor the freedom to receive information which is assured by Article 146 of the National Constitution,” Bulkan said.


“I hope that our Parliamentarians will think long and hard before voting for something that could turn into another Berbice Bridge — one in which most of the benefits are privatized, even while all the costs are socialised.  We do not need another Berbice Bridge — the costs borne by the average Guyanese, a cash cow for the private investor.”

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

FM

A Sugarcane Industry

JULY 7, 2013 | BY  | FILED UNDER FEATURES / COLUMNISTSRAVI DEV 

(The following are the concluding excerpts from the 2008 five-part series on reviving the sugar industry)

 

Regarding the plans for the industry, there was a Strategic Plan unveiled in 1998, but which has been revised several times in the intervening decade – primarily to deal with the changing global environment for sugar.


The lands for sugar were going to be increased in Berbice and there was going to be a diversification, within the industry: co-generation of electricity from bagasse for sale to the national grid, alcohol production from a new distillery and a refinery for producing white sugar. There was going to be the packaging of some sugar for the retail trade – initially at Blairmont – which could increase its value immensely. Most recently we heard of the possible production of Ethanol.


We believe that the industry can be made viable within a regime that more clearly articulates the de facto change in strategy from a sugar industry to a sugarcane industry. The change is more than semantic. At the most mundane level it stresses the fact that all the end products – sugar (bulk and packaged; raw and refined), electricity, alcohol, ethanol – depend on sugar cane being supplied and therefore its production must be given the central role in any future strategy.


For instance, in the Skeldon Sugar Modernization Project (SSMP), the impression was given that in the US$180 million investment, somehow the factory alone was going to save the industry. But the factory’s cost will only be justified if we produce the requisite sugarcane at the lowest cost. Each ensuing product from the sugar cane can then be applied towards the over cost of its production – not just sugar.


In addition to the above-mentioned product mix from sugar cane, we suggest that the production of biogas be made standard at all sugar factories – including the ones in Demerara. Molasses and bagasse are not the only waste products in the production of sugar from sugarcane – the wash and press-mud are extremely rich in methane or bio-gas – which can be extracted and bottled for commercial sale or for providing fuel to the fleet of vehicles used in the sugar cane cultivation.


The vehicles would have to be slightly modified. A month ago, DDL announced that it was installing a bio-gas plant to extract methane from the wash produced in its distillery. This technology is not an insignificant one and it forms the basis of Europe’s strategy to reduce its dependence on gas from Russia. There would be a huge savings for our sugarcane operations, resulting in a drop in unit costs.
The generation of electricity from bagasse ought to be seen not simply as a subsidiary operation from the production of sugar, but as an economic enterprise on its own merits. Mauritius embarked on this road since the mid-eighties and ten out of its present factories have co-generation capabilities that,by 2004, exported 240MW of electricity to the national grid: this is about equal to our entire generating capacity (226MW). There are plans to further consolidate their factory operations and increase the quantity of co-generated electricity for export.
For the Demerara plantations, the co-generation potential would be augmented if the present four factories in East and West Demerara were consolidated into two – one in each sector. This would only make redundant some of the factory workers who could be employed in the co-generation plants and other plants that will be proposed. If the power generation is evaluated from its own capabilities, some of the Type III lands in Demerara that give such poor yields for sugar cane could be converted into fuel cane that are hardier but generate more fibre and thus more energy in power generation. Unlike the sugar cane, the fuel cane can also be harvested in sub-optimum weather since sunlight to maximise sucrose content is not a factor: the number of available days in the wetter Demerara Plantations could then be increased, lowering unit costs.


While the administration recognises the need for shaking up the present management team from their complacency, there has to also be a complete reorganisation of that team to deal with the new orientation. The field operations will have to be given greater weight in the allocation of management responsibilities and consequently a commensurate increase in management status and remuneration. The field will have to be accepted as the place where “the action is” – especially in the Demerara Plantations, where the soils and rainfall (heavy) are least favourable for the cultivation of sugarcane. We will have to retain or regain some “old head” field managers who will ensure that we do not embark on inappropriate innovations such as “high density planting” taken from the totally different Australian experience.
Corruption, which eats away at least a quarter of the profits of the industry, must be tackled vigorously.

FM

Dem boys seh…Amaila is not a ready-made dress

AUGUST 4, 2013 | BY  | FILED UNDER DEM BOYS SEHFEATURES / COLUMNISTSNEWS 

 

No tricks no living is something old people does always seh when dem talking bout a scamp. Dem does use that same statement when dem children trying to smart dem just like how Brazzy and he kavakamites dem trying to smart Guyanese.
Dem boys only find out de other day that dem don’t have a design fuh de Amaila Falls but dem have a price. That price jump from US$350 million to US$650 million then to US$840 and now it climb to US$858 million. Dem waiting to see it climb to something else.
Now that got to be strange because if a man building a house and he ain’t got a design or a plan fuh de house then he can’t know wha de price gun be. He can’t tell nobody how much money he gun spend. Nobody know if is a one-bedroom or a mansion he building.
Is de same thing if a woman want a dress, de seamstress got to measure de woman to know how much cloth she got buy.  De woman might be a slim woman like Julia Roberts who want a mini or it might be a full figure woman like Oprah Winfrey or Bibi Shadick who want nuff pleat and flounce and frill. Of course dem things gun tek more cloth and that gun push up de cost. Dem two size gun vary in price because dem have de measurement.
Dem have dress that is ready made. Dem even got one size fit all but that can’t fit Brazzy. De pumpkin jump suit wha de Feds gun mek gun fit he, Barbie and de rest of dem. Dem boys seh that Amaila is not a ready-made project or a one size fit all. Yet Brazzy give de nation a price of US$4 million per megawatt when de rest of de world buy fuh US$3 million per megawatt.
Dem boys seh that if de people think de scampishness done deh, dem lie. Brazzy admit that Amaila after one year can’t generate enough power to supply Guyana.  He plan de next year to build another one. Well wha happen to de feasibility study? It got to be that Jagdeo and Brazzy and all dem planners tek Guyanese fuh fools.
It like de man who plan to buy a bicycle and mek a li’l bridge fuh ride over knowing that one year down de line he gun buy a car. He know that he got to mek a big driveway and gun scrap de li’l bridge. Fuh one, de bridge can’t tek de weight of de car suh is a whole new foundation.
Or is like a man who build a one bedroom house fuh he and he wife. When de children come is either de man expand or de children sleep under de bed. And Brazzy can’t fit under no bed.
As old people seh, no tricks no living.
Talk half and watch fuh de tricks.

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

I don't say if you have a viable sugar industry, you should not exploit bagasse.  However, bagasse cannot be a national power strategy as it is not a standalone resource and leaves a nation exposed to the viability of another industry which is going through changes of it's own.

 

Any nation needs a a separate and sound source of power and not just a byproduct of another industry.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

I don't say if you have a viable sugar industry, you should not exploit bagasse.  However, bagasse cannot be a national power strategy as it is not a standalone resource and leaves a nation exposed to the viability of another industry which is going through changes of it's own.

 

Any nation needs a a separate and sound source of power and not just a byproduct of another industry.

 

I see you are now dancing on your head. It is quite comical. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

I don't say if you have a viable sugar industry, you should not exploit bagasse.  However, bagasse cannot be a national power strategy as it is not a standalone resource and leaves a nation exposed to the viability of another industry which is going through changes of it's own.

 

Any nation needs a a separate and sound source of power and not just a byproduct of another industry.

 

I see you are now dancing on your head. It is quite comical. 

How you come to that?  Seems you are the one prancing, defending your position that Dev and Jagdeo and Ramroop support that Bagasse strategy after I debunked your "Mauritius model".  So now you taking comfort from Jagdeo's position, what a joker you are.  I don't think you even understand the difference between a national power strategy and a strategy for exploiting Bagasse for power generation.

 

There is a difference you clown.  Jagdeo is way ahead of you, back to the drawing board.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

I don't say if you have a viable sugar industry, you should not exploit bagasse.  However, bagasse cannot be a national power strategy as it is not a standalone resource and leaves a nation exposed to the viability of another industry which is going through changes of it's own.

 

Any nation needs a a separate and sound source of power and not just a byproduct of another industry.

 

I see you are now dancing on your head. It is quite comical. 

How you come to that?  Seems you are the one prancing, defending your position that Dev and Jagdeo and Ramroop support that Bagasse strategy after I debunked your "Mauritius model".  So now you taking comfort from Jagdeo's position, what a joker you are.  I don't think you even understand the difference between a national power strategy and a strategy for exploiting Bagasse for power generation.

 

There is a difference you clown.  Jagdeo is way ahead of you, back to the drawing board.

 

I never said Mr Jagdeo or Mr Ramroop support bagasse or ethanol or anything like that. They would only support a venture from which they earn substantial padding to their foreign bank accounts. I merely pointed out that their intellectual guru Mr Dev supports the bagasse strategy which others like Mr Khemraj supports. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

I don't say if you have a viable sugar industry, you should not exploit bagasse.  However, bagasse cannot be a national power strategy as it is not a standalone resource and leaves a nation exposed to the viability of another industry which is going through changes of it's own.

 

Any nation needs a a separate and sound source of power and not just a byproduct of another industry.

 

I see you are now dancing on your head. It is quite comical. 

How you come to that?  Seems you are the one prancing, defending your position that Dev and Jagdeo and Ramroop support that Bagasse strategy after I debunked your "Mauritius model".  So now you taking comfort from Jagdeo's position, what a joker you are.  I don't think you even understand the difference between a national power strategy and a strategy for exploiting Bagasse for power generation.

 

There is a difference you clown.  Jagdeo is way ahead of you, back to the drawing board.

 

I never said Mr Jagdeo or Mr Ramroop support bagasse or ethanol or anything like that. They would only support a venture from which they earn substantial padding to their foreign bank accounts. I merely pointed out that their intellectual guru Mr Dev supports the bagasse strategy which others like Mr Khemraj supports. 

Ok, I give you that, my mistake, but your old boss Dev got no where, so what makes him lord of the ring.  JB/TK, quit before you embarrass yourself more.  Your starting point on any topic is your achilles heel.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

And your point is? 

Another TK-style theoretician coming up with academic positions.  Well, I guess everyone must have their say and seek their moment in the sun!

 

Should I assume you are daft? 

You can assume what you want, it's of no consequence such as these convoluted positions you support.

 

TK support national power by bagasse and ethanol, a model never found feasible in any country.  This banna talking solar panels, a technology still not competitive and reliable to be a backbone power source.

 

Alyuh more smart tan the rest of the world, yet no one ever heard of alyuh.

 

I knew you are daft:

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/...eepchand_bagasse.pdf

 

 

You should study the pitfalls and risk and limitations posed.  This is an island nation whose economy was primarily sugar and well concentrated.  Even with that, the viability of Bagasse is linked to the viability of Sugar and the preferential EU price.  Still, they exploited Hydro and Coal and fossils are a major component of their power source

 

So, is this the best you have?  This shows your lack of deep thought and an understanding of the building of economic strategic depth.

 

Even Mr Dev a good friend of Mr Jagdeo and Mr Ramsaroop agrees on the bagasse strategy. 

I don't say if you have a viable sugar industry, you should not exploit bagasse.  However, bagasse cannot be a national power strategy as it is not a standalone resource and leaves a nation exposed to the viability of another industry which is going through changes of it's own.

 

Any nation needs a a separate and sound source of power and not just a byproduct of another industry.

 

I see you are now dancing on your head. It is quite comical. 

How you come to that?  Seems you are the one prancing, defending your position that Dev and Jagdeo and Ramroop support that Bagasse strategy after I debunked your "Mauritius model".  So now you taking comfort from Jagdeo's position, what a joker you are.  I don't think you even understand the difference between a national power strategy and a strategy for exploiting Bagasse for power generation.

 

There is a difference you clown.  Jagdeo is way ahead of you, back to the drawing board.

 

I never said Mr Jagdeo or Mr Ramroop support bagasse or ethanol or anything like that. They would only support a venture from which they earn substantial padding to their foreign bank accounts. I merely pointed out that their intellectual guru Mr Dev supports the bagasse strategy which others like Mr Khemraj supports. 

Ok, I give you that, my mistake, but your old boss Dev got no where, so what makes him lord of the ring.  JB/TK, quit before you embarrass yourself more.  Your starting point on any topic is your achilles heel.

 

Who or what is TK? By the way, are you not a member of the advisory clan which is helping to destroy the East Indians in Guyana? 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by baseman:

 

Ok, I give you that, my mistake, but your old boss Dev got no where, so what makes him lord of the ring.  JB/TK, quit before you embarrass yourself more.  Your starting point on any topic is your achilles heel.

 

Who or what is TK? By the way, are you not a member of the advisory clan which is helping to destroy the East Indians in Guyana? 

And which "clan" is that?  The Caribj "anti-clannish" clan?

FM

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