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CHASSIEU, France — A patriotic sea of supporters, waving red, white and blue flags, greeted the newly ascendant presidential hopeful François Fillon this week at a soulless conference center in this suburb of Lyon.

Mr. Fillon described radical Islam as a “totalitarianism like the Nazis” to the cheers of an enthusiastic crowd, adding that France would need Russia’s help to fight it. Catholics, Protestants and Jews “don’t denounce the values of the Republic,” he thundered — unlike the faithful of a certain other religion.

“We’ve got to reduce immigration to its strict minimum,” he said. “Our country is not a sum of communities, it is an identity!”

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The weakness of Obama saw the rise of Radical Islam and the vacuum is being filled by Russia and nations are falling inline behind this.

Until the civilized world realizes that nations like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc are part and parcel of the problem of Radical Islam, we will be just trimming the edges off the cancer!  The "mother" cancer needs to be destroyed!

FM

Ancient Mid-East has always had recurring forms of ungodly beliefs. What they have today is another one of those recurring beliefs. They are constantly evolving in the spiritual realm.

They fail to see God, but rather seek Nimrod. Who actually hails from modern day Saudi Arabia. 

Even the act of God, they refused to accept. Abraham who was from among them, in the sea of false gods found favor with God. Because his heart knew righteousness. And God answered the heathens by calling out Abraham and revealed Himself. 

Today, they consider Abraham to be one of their Prophets but failed to honor what was written about him.  Instead, they have chosen another man, whom they believe was also called by God. They doan say God, the being is chosen as Allah. 

God doan evolve, He is God. Ever knowing from creation to eternity. He choose Abraham for all eternity. 

The present belief forms of the Mid-East are going through the recurring process as usual. Now labelled as Radical Islam, which really is end time prophecies.

 

S

"They doan say God, the being is chosen as Allah."


Siege,

What nonsense you coming up with,

ALLAH - Arabic word for GOD [English]

YAWEH-Hebrew word for GOD

I can go on and on,GOD [English] pronounced differently by various languages.

 

Django
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Django posted:

"They doan say God, the being is chosen as Allah."


Siege,

What nonsense you coming up with,

ALLAH - Arabic word for GOD [English]

YAWEH-Hebrew word for GOD

I can go on and on,GOD [English] pronounced differently by various languages.

 

Django, In the bible, Ezekiel saw god with a vehicle that flashed multicolored lights with wheels and legs. He also saw alien beings accompanying the craft. What does this say about god, evolution and creation?

FM
skeldon_man posted:

Django, In the bible,Ezekiel saw god with a vehicle that flashed multicolored lights with wheels and legs. He also saw alien beings accompanying the craft. What does this say about god, evolution and creation?

Bhai,Ezekiel was on to something about our existence on Earth.

Django
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Django posted:

"They doan say God, the being is chosen as Allah."


Siege,

What nonsense you coming up with,

ALLAH - Arabic word for GOD [English]

YAWEH-Hebrew word for GOD

I can go on and on,GOD [English] pronounced differently by various languages.

 

God has an Elect One-reasoned as HIS SON.

Allah is alone, they believe that he has no Elect One. That is their main reason for wanting to destroy the West. They feel, they are in favor with Allah if they kill Christians for proclaiming that Jesus is the Son of God. 

If God is Allah then there is no Elect One. And all of the whole New Testament is thrown out.

Anything written before the written words of Mohammad is not considered as truthful. Perhaps, that is the reason why practicing muslims refrain from reading any other books.

S
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Django, In the bible,Ezekiel saw god with a vehicle that flashed multicolored lights with wheels and legs. He also saw alien beings accompanying the craft. What does this say about god, evolution and creation?

Bhai,Ezekiel was on to something about our existence on Earth.

A guy seys to his friend, "yuh know there are UFOs?" His friend replied, "Sure, there are, they are called angels and arch-angels."

S

 

seignet posted

Ancient Mid-East has always had recurring forms of ungodly beliefs.,,,The present belief forms of the Mid-East are going through the recurring process as usual. Now labelled as Radical Islam, which really is end time prophecies.

I guess you see yourself as a knower of true religious beliefs!

FM
ba$eman posted:

The weakness of Obama saw the rise of Radical Islam and the vacuum is being filled by Russia and nations are falling inline behind this.

Until the civilized world realizes that nations like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc are part and parcel of the problem of Radical Islam, we will be just trimming the edges off the cancer!  The "mother" cancer needs to be destroyed!

The weakness of Obama saw the rise of Radical Islam and the vacuum is being filled by Russia and nations are falling inline behind this.

Useless and baseless Ba$ement, let's deconstruct your position outlined above.

You are yet to say to state what this weakness is. You have also asserted some concept of radical Islam which has been shown to be an oxymoron.

Let me anticipate what you mean by Obama's so-called weakness.

  1. Syria - After the red line (Aug 2013) Bashir Al Assad admitted what he denied all the time - he had, and used, chemical weapons on his people. 1,300 tons of chemical weapons were destroyed by the Russians in a collaborate and coercive piece of diplomacy by Obama - soft power of America's military strength. Once and for all you must remember that Obama mentioned gas as the red line in the summer of 2012 (one year earlier) and announced a military strike bt first with the approval of the US Congress. Congress opposed this strike and the country asked why America should intervene militarily. Remember that towards the end of Hillary's term of Secretary of State (and maybe anticipating a 2016 run for the Presidency) went rogue and stated she's in favor of a no-fly zone in Syria. Know this ideologue Baseless, Syria has a Defense pact with Russia who has a naval base with the possibility of an aircraft carrier (which happened a year later). So only a UN Resolution could have given the Security Council a mandate to fly over a sovereign country to stop its own military from flying. And Russia had threatened a vote against it.
  2. Iraq - Al Maliki signed the Forces Agreement with G W Bush in 2008 to get American troops out of Iraq (with only a residual amount in a non-combat advisory role). Al Malaki wanted no American troops after that because he wanted revenge on Sunnis. Remember he stripped the Baathist army which turned out to be the core of ISIS. After the deadline in 2011 America could not put troops in a sovereign country without being an aggressor and an occupation force while invading a country. Try that for size, ideologue. Only when the Shiite army ran in the face of ISIS and took US weaponry, banks and oil fields that Obama pressure on Maliki resigning that Obama joined in the fight. See where ISIS is today.

 

All along Obama has been working with European allies in NATO to more and they balked. You know what they got? over a million Syrian refugees.

 

Show me his weakness.

Kari

Nah, Obama said ISIS was some JV squad!  Radical Islam saw an opportunity in Obama's unclench fist!  Obama's weakness created the environment which emboldened Radical Islam as they saw an ally in the White House!

FM
Kari posted:

The weakness of Obama saw the rise of Radical Islam and the vacuum is being filled by Russia and nations are falling inline behind this.

Useless and baseless Ba$ement, let's deconstruct your position outlined above.

You are yet to say to state what this weakness is. You have also asserted some concept of radical Islam which has been shown to be an oxymoron.

Let me anticipate what you mean by Obama's so-called weakness.

  1. Syria - After the red line (Aug 2013) Bashir Al Assad admitted what he denied all the time - he had, and used, chemical weapons on his people. 1,300 tons of chemical weapons were destroyed by the Russians in a collaborate and coercive piece of diplomacy by Obama - soft power of America's military strength. Once and for all you must remember that Obama mentioned gas as the red line in the summer of 2012 (one year earlier) and announced a military strike bt first with the approval of the US Congress. Congress opposed this strike and the country asked why America should intervene militarily. Remember that towards the end of Hillary's term of Secretary of State (and maybe anticipating a 2016 run for the Presidency) went rogue and stated she's in favor of a no-fly zone in Syria. Know this ideologue Baseless, Syria has a Defense pact with Russia who has a naval base with the possibility of an aircraft carrier (which happened a year later). So only a UN Resolution could have given the Security Council a mandate to fly over a sovereign country to stop its own military from flying. And Russia had threatened a vote against it.
  2. Iraq - Al Maliki signed the Forces Agreement with G W Bush in 2008 to get American troops out of Iraq (with only a residual amount in a non-combat advisory role). Al Malaki wanted no American troops after that because he wanted revenge on Sunnis. Remember he stripped the Baathist army which turned out to be the core of ISIS. After the deadline in 2011 America could not put troops in a sovereign country without being an aggressor and an occupation force while invading a country. Try that for size, ideologue. Only when the Shiite army ran in the face of ISIS and took US weaponry, banks and oil fields that Obama pressure on Maliki resigning that Obama joined in the fight. See where ISIS is today.

 

All along Obama has been working with European allies in NATO to more and they balked. You know what they got? over a million Syrian refugees.

 

Show me his weakness.

Listen flycatcher, not sure how many flies perished in this loooong huff and puff!

The Civil war in Syria started when the Wahabs in Saudi sent over squads of terrorists to ride the confusion in Egypt and destroy Syria in retaliation for the rising Iran.  Obama chose to turn a blind eye to the "JV squad" as the "enemy of my enemy is my friend".  He hoped Syria would be overrun and then Israel will walk in, destroy ISIS and take Syria under Israeli control.  One scenario.  Another, Saudi will rein in ISIS and create at least a Saudi-style regime to confront Iran and Israel will vanquish Hezbolah.

Now flycatcher, Obama did not see the rapid invasion of Iraq by ISIS as soon as the US pulls out.  That's how out of touch Obama was.  He had no clue of the strength of ISIS makes one wonder what all the security briefings meant.

The weak and naive Obama, who saw ISIS as a JV squad, also thought Iran and Russia will sit by and watch a strategic ally destroyed and over-run by bands of Wahab terrorists and handed on a silver platter to Israel and Saudi.

Saudi and Israel tail wagged the dog, while the weak "dog" swung his head side to side trying to figure who yanking what!

All the other tripe you wrote were reaction, not action!  You are not smart, just full of shit!!

FM
ba$eman posted:

Nah, Obama said ISIS was some JV squad!  Radical Islam saw an opportunity in Obama's unclench fist!  Obama's weakness created the environment which emboldened Radical Islam as they saw an ally in the White House!

You have not established Obama's so-called weakness. How can 3,000 fighters at that time against an Iraqi army of hundreds of thousands, an air force, tank force, etc. not be a JV? Do you think ISIS is a country?

Why do you insist on a debunked theory of "radical Islam"? Islam is a religion and a religion is about peace - not violence. If a tiny group of people (thugs, criminals, drinkers, etc.) choose to say "Allah Akbar" when beheading innocents does that make them part of Islam?

What is this about Obama's un-clenched fist? He slapped them silly when they threatened the Yazidis - America's traditional role of preventing genocide. He left Maliki to sort his own problems as he was determined to slaughter Sunnis in Iraq. Obama did not want to pick sides in a civil war left by G W Bush. Smart dude. Now that Maliki's gone whither ISIS?

Kari
seignet posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Django, In the bible,Ezekiel saw god with a vehicle that flashed multicolored lights with wheels and legs. He also saw alien beings accompanying the craft. What does this say about god, evolution and creation?

Bhai,Ezekiel was on to something about our existence on Earth.

A guy seys to his friend, "yuh know there are UFOs?" His friend replied, "Sure, there are, they are called angels and arch-angels."

Not sure alien beings with strobe lights and a craft could be classified as angels.

FM

Francois Fillon after giving a speech at a campaign rally in Paris on Friday.

(CNN) French conservatives have picked François Fillon as their presidential candidate in next year's election.

Fillon easily beat Bordeaux Mayor Alain Juppé in the Republican party's first ever US-style primary runoff Sunday, getting about 66% of the vote.
"Victory is mine. It is a substantive victory built on belief," Fillon said as he spoke to supporters after his win. "We have all the assets to be a modern, sovereign nation in the lead in Europe."
Fillon could face far-right National Front Party leader Marine Le Pen in the final round of the presidential vote next spring, as voters are widely expected to boot out the Socialist Party that has ruled France since 2012 under the leadership of President Francois Hollande, whose popularity is waning.
"This past presidential term has been pathetic," Fillon said in criticizing Hollande. "It is time to end it and start moving forward as we have never done in 30 years. For this we will need everyone."
FM
Cobra posted:

Is this Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric rubbing off on France? 

France always had strong anti-Islamic sentiments.  The recent acts of Islamic terrorism is what caused the boost and victory.  Trump is only a coincidence!

FM
Chief posted:
Prince posted:

Why is the whole world against Islam? When will there be an end to this? 

Good question.

Kindly read the Holy Qur'an . 

Probably its because you don't see scores of lunatics killing people in the name of their God, except in Islam.

And often this being due to certain so called Muslim clerics filling them with nonsense.

No one cares about what is in some book.  They care about how people behave.

And quit your usual nonsense that Islam is any different from Christianity or Judaism. It is no better so I really don't care what is in the Qur'an.  I care that lunatics screaming Allah have made traveling very irritating for many, and highly inconvenient for older or disabled people.

FM
Kari posted:
.. If a tiny group of people (thugs, criminals, drinkers, etc.) choose to say "Allah Akbar" when beheading innocents does .

Kari Islam has clerics who encourage this violence. Face up to that fact and urge those who have leadership remove these people from tarnishing the rest of Islam and destroying the lives of many.

Its no point denying that this problem goes way beyond ISIS.  It has been a problem for a while now, and will continue to be a problem after ISIS disappears, unless something is done by Muslims themselves.

And every religion says that they are of peace, but its a known fact that Judeo-Christian-Islam is quite hypocritical about this. In times PAST all 3 engaged in violence to spread their religion. 

Its a pity that elements within Islam continue to do this.  And don't scream otherwise as apostasy is a "crime" in certain Muslims countries where death can be considered due punishment.

Please name a majority Christian country where some one who leaves that religion can be executed.

It is this extreme behavior by countries like Saudi Arabia that gives excuse to lunatics like ISIS to engage in barbaric behavior.

You all really need to seize your religion from those Arab nomads, who have injected their primitive attitudes into it.

 

 

FM

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