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Revocation of bar licences may be among ‘drastic measures’ taken to prevent COVID-19 spread

-Ramjattan warns

Khemraj Ramjattan
Khemraj Ramjattan

Minister of Public Security Khemraj Ramjattan on Wednesday evening stated that drastic measures, which may include the revocation of bar licences may have to be taken to promote social distancing in order to combat the spread of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).

 

Ramjattan made the statement on a live discussion, which was streamed on Wednesday night on the APNU+AFC’s Facebook page.

The minister mentioned that there have been a number of advisories urging businesses and citizens at large to practice social distancing, however, they have not been adhered to by some.

 

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In the US a Guyanese restaurant was shut down and licence taken away for not taken precaution.... no argument there. Same done in Guyana and now it's wrong.

cain
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@cain . The Resturant in NY broke the law first before the licence was revoked. This fool who is not a minister want to take away licences as a precautionary measure even if they have not violated any laws. What’s up with that?

Ace

@cain

There is a difference. In New York, they defied a lawful order made a lawful Government. In Guyana, there is no such order, no Minister, and no lawful Government. Remember that the rum shop is Ramjattan’s playground. That said, I agree with the principle.

FM

It's obvious Guyanese know nothing about following laws..none of them, it is a lawless society. If he says this as a warning that is good.  If he just shuts them down without showing laws were broken then different story.

All bars in Ontario and throughout Canada are closed..there is no such  thing as take out bars.

cain

You guys don't get it, there are two different BARS, one is rumshop, which RUMJAAT knows very well, and the other is the Legal bar. The courts are essential services, lawyers must be able to operate, sure within social distance.

 Closing a Rum Shop for opening is a vast difference than protecting the law.  But this has political influence, it is to stop all court cases and for the Dumb judge to dismiss the outstanding court cases against GECOM.

 In other words PPP lawyers cannot discuss the case in public.   But what can be said, RUMJAAT is a JACKASS!

K
Ace posted:

@cain . The Resturant in NY broke the law first before the licence was revoked. This fool who is not a minister want to take away licences as a precautionary measure even if they have not violated any laws. What’s up with that?

There is no indication in the article posted above that Ramjattan wants to take away licences from businesses as a precautionary measure. He stated that there were many businesses who are not following the suggested guidelines for curbing the spread of the virus. While it's also not stated in the article, he is most likely threatening those businesses who are not adhering to advisories previously sent to them.

Mars
kp posted:

You guys don't get it, there are two different BARS, one is rumshop, which RUMJAAT knows very well, and the other is the Legal bar. The courts are essential services, lawyers must be able to operate, sure within social distance.

 Closing a Rum Shop for opening is a vast difference than protecting the law.  But this has political influence, it is to stop all court cases and for the Dumb judge to dismiss the outstanding court cases against GECOM.

 In other words PPP lawyers cannot discuss the case in public.   But what can be said, RUMJAAT is a JACKASS!

Cock Eye Ramjattan following orders from Vulva Volda. Merika going to put a bounty on he skont 

FM
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cain posted:

It's obvious Guyanese know nothing about following laws..none of them, it is a lawless society. If he says this as a warning that is good.  If he just shuts them down without showing laws were broken then different story.

All bars in Ontario and throughout Canada are closed..there is no such  thing as take out bars.

Let these jackasses complaining try to walk into a bar in Toronto or NYC tonight. 

Mars

Ramjattan may know the law but he does not know how to apply it and that's sad.  Only an act of parliament can allow the Government to take away the bar licences and for what excuse. Ramjattan is embarrassing the Government. Threatening to take away bar licences without any one breaking the law is really really stupid. 

R

Thanks Don for explaining it clearly. Ramjattan is not a Minister and so is all the others who are parading. If anything they should be in jail for pretending to be ministers of the government of Guyana. 

Ace
Dondadda posted:

What I am trying to say is that Ramjattan has no authority to warn any businesses about anything. HE IS NOT A MINISTER. THERE ARE NO MINISTERS. 

The present government has to act as a caretaker until the next government is sworn in or the country will descend into anarchy. We can't just say that there are no ministers and let everyone do as they please. Someone has to maintain a level of sanity especially when there is a national emergency.

Mars

Given that Ramjattan has no government portfolio the Police Chief should have made this announcement instead of him. Obviously he is following PNC instructions and no one has ever accused the PNC of being smart.

FM
Mars posted:
Dondadda posted:

What I am trying to say is that Ramjattan has no authority to warn any businesses about anything. HE IS NOT A MINISTER. THERE ARE NO MINISTERS. 

The present government has to act as a caretaker until the next government is sworn in or the country will descend into anarchy. We can't just say that there are no ministers and let everyone do as they please. Someone has to maintain a level of sanity especially when there is a national emergency.

Only Granger can give out instructions but he can't funnel them through his former ministers because they cease to exist on March 2, 2020. That is the consequence that the PNC has placed the country in.

FM

@Mars

Caretaker Government ended on Election Day. THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT IN GUYANA. ONLY THE PRESIDENT STAYS UNTIL A NEW ONE IS SWORN IN. STOP FOOLING THE PEOPLE BY POSTING FAKE STORIES.

FM
Ramakant-P posted:

There is no law authorising the Police Chief to make the announcing.  There is no national emergency.

in that case, another casualty of the PNC and Mingo's illegal behavior.

FM
Dondadda posted:

@Mars

Caretaker Government ended on Election Day. THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT IN GUYANA. ONLY THE PRESIDENT STAYS UNTIL A NEW ONE IS SWORN IN. STOP FOOLING THE PEOPLE BY POSTING FAKE STORIES.

ksazma posted:
Mars posted:
Dondadda posted:

What I am trying to say is that Ramjattan has no authority to warn any businesses about anything. HE IS NOT A MINISTER. THERE ARE NO MINISTERS. 

The present government has to act as a caretaker until the next government is sworn in or the country will descend into anarchy. We can't just say that there are no ministers and let everyone do as they please. Someone has to maintain a level of sanity especially when there is a national emergency.

Only Granger can give out instructions but he can't funnel them through his former ministers because they cease to exist on March 2, 2020. That is the consequence that the PNC has placed the country in.

So do you think that Granger will act as Finance Minister, Health Minister, Education Minister, Home Affairs Minister and all the other ministers while the country is in a state of emergency? Someone has to step up and take that responsibility.

Mars

@Mars

That is the price a country without a government has to pay. Existing laws apply and can be enforced. No new manufactured laws apply. GRANGER CANNOT ACT AS ANY MINISTER BECAUSE (1)THERE ARE NO MINISTERS(2) HE IS THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT A CABINET. 

FM
Mars posted:
Dondadda posted:

@Mars

Caretaker Government ended on Election Day. THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT IN GUYANA. ONLY THE PRESIDENT STAYS UNTIL A NEW ONE IS SWORN IN. STOP FOOLING THE PEOPLE BY POSTING FAKE STORIES.

ksazma posted:
Mars posted:
Dondadda posted:

What I am trying to say is that Ramjattan has no authority to warn any businesses about anything. HE IS NOT A MINISTER. THERE ARE NO MINISTERS. 

The present government has to act as a caretaker until the next government is sworn in or the country will descend into anarchy. We can't just say that there are no ministers and let everyone do as they please. Someone has to maintain a level of sanity especially when there is a national emergency.

Only Granger can give out instructions but he can't funnel them through his former ministers because they cease to exist on March 2, 2020. That is the consequence that the PNC has placed the country in.

So do you think that Granger will act as Finance Minister, Health Minister, Education Minister, Home Affairs Minister and all the other ministers while the country is in a state of emergency? Someone has to step up and take that responsibility.

I agree that someone has to step and take that responsibility. He has to. By directing his party to stop p ussyfooting and allow the proper verification of the votes cast and if he indeed won, he can then form his government but the law does not allow those ministers to become active. Since it is an emergency, he can always announce military rule and run the country like a dictatorship and then appoint his minions. At that point there would be no law that he and his minions would need to abide by.

FM
Dondadda posted:

@Mars

That is the price a country without a government has to pay. Existing laws apply and can be enforced. No new manufactured laws apply. GRANGER CANNOT ACT AS ANY MINISTER BECAUSE (1)THERE ARE NO MINISTERS(2) HE IS THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT A CABINET. 

The country is in a state of emergency. It's a totally different ballgame. The President has wide ranging powers when there is a state of emergency. He is still the President and can basically appoint anyone to carry out functions as it pleases him. Trump is doing the same in the US.

Mars
ksazma posted:
I agree that someone has to step and take that responsibility. He has to. By directing his party to stop p ussyfooting and allow the proper verification of the votes cast and if he indeed won, he can then form his government but the law does not allow those ministers to become active. Since it is an emergency, he can always announce military rule and run the country like a dictatorship and then appoint his minions. At that point there would be no law that he and his minions would need to abide by.

Precisely! He can do as he pleases when the country is in a state of emergency and appoint anyone as he pleases and that is exactly what is happening currently.

Mars
Mars posted:
ksazma posted:
I agree that someone has to step and take that responsibility. He has to. By directing his party to stop p ussyfooting and allow the proper verification of the votes cast and if he indeed won, he can then form his government but the law does not allow those ministers to become active. Since it is an emergency, he can always announce military rule and run the country like a dictatorship and then appoint his minions. At that point there would be no law that he and his minions would need to abide by.

Precisely! He can do as he pleases when the country is in a state of emergency and appoint anyone as he pleases and that is exactly what is happening currently.

Except that he didn't make any appointments because by doing so would shift the country into a totally different realm. But I agree he will get away with it until the hammer comes down.

FM

The President can declare a state of emergency. What will open and what will be shut? Will the country be on a lockdown? What will happen to the supply chain? Who will benefit and who will suffer. What impact will this have on the economy, assuming that there is an economy left? Who will enforce it? He cannot appoint anyone. And assuming that he can, what will he appoint them as/to.

FM

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