PNC Green runs GT. And now it's even Greener. Anti PPP den over yonder!
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Bibi Haniffa posted:PNC Green runs GT. And now it's even Greener. Anti PPP den over yonder!
This is the type of hysterical ignorance that one can expect from you. You don't even know what you are trying to say.
Most will agree that G/T isn't the cesspit that it was under the PPP.
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Prashad posted:Douglas who embrace their Indian heritage and allies of the East Indian Guyanese people. We are a nation and we must never forget that and pander to other people.
Do your kids and your wife embrace this "Indianness"? Given that they don't seem to why your screams that others must do so.
More Guyanese are mixing with each other, and as that happens ethnic boundaries become more blurred.
caribny posted:By the way Bibi the sign of being an idiot is when you respond with two word sentences, and don't offeryour own analysis.
They can't suddenly they becomes cool like a Cucumber after viewing the 2012 census,FH scratching their heads they mislead the Indians for a long time,wake up call for the funny fellas in the PPP camp.
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Django posted:caribny posted:By the way Bibi the sign of being an idiot is when you respond with two word sentences, and don't offeryour own analysis.
They can't suddenly they becomes cool like a Cucumber after viewing the 2012 census,FH scratching their heads they mislead the Indians for a long time,wake up call for the funny fellas in the PPP camp.
The PPP thinks that they can simultaneously be the "coolie people party", and yet still get enough Indian votes to win.
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caribny posted:Django posted:caribny posted:By the way Bibi the sign of being an idiot is when you respond with two word sentences, and don't offeryour own analysis.
They can't suddenly they becomes cool like a Cucumber after viewing the 2012 census,FH scratching their heads they mislead the Indians for a long time,wake up call for the funny fellas in the PPP camp.
The PPP thinks that they can simultaneously be the "coolie people party", and yet still get enough Indian votes to win.
PPP has more blacks than PNC has indo dalits.
Gilbakka posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:My question to Carib was if the PPP did not attract the mixed people's votes how the hell they got almost 50% when eligible Indos made up only 39% of the electorate?
While Indians make up only 39 percent of the population, a very large proportion of Indians are above 18 years old and eligible to vote. In absolute numbers, more Indians voted than Africans and Mixed. As the incumbent during the last election, the PPP benefited from more Amerindian votes than APNU+AFC. In short, PPP's good showing was due to Indian and Amerindian votes chiefly. The GECOM official results for Regions 1, 8 and 9 show that clearly. But right now, even as I type this comment, President Granger's people are working calculatedly on the ground to win the Amerindians' support.
Get real Gil... They say that the 5% of the Indo votes went the AFC. That left 34% of the eligible Indo voters to support the PPP. Are you saying that the next 16% of the votes they won came exclusively from the Amerindians?
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skeldon_man posted:PPP has more blacks than PNC has indo dalits.
There are more senior ministers who are Indian and more ambassadors who are Indian than there were blacks under the PPP.
Jump, scream and act like an ape, but these are the facts. The PPP liked to appoint stupid black tokens who were junior ministers, or assorted figure heads.
caribny posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:My question to Carib was if the PPP did not attract the mixed people's votes how the hell they got almost 50% when eligible Indos made up only 39% of the electorate? He condemned the PPP as racist and placed all blame on them. The PNC preaches more racial hate than any other party in this country. They have aided and abetted physical attacks on Indo Guyanese. To Carib, this is all acceptable and does not make the PNC culpable in any way. His view is biased. I agree that the PPP must change its ideology and be more receptive to new ideas. New ideas will come when they accept new people without worrying about compromising their own positions.
So you hate the PNC. Now what better way for them to stay in power than ensuring that the PPP loses because they promote themselves as the "coolie people party".
Indians were 44% voting age population last year.. If you assume that 40% of the voters were PPP Indians, and that the PPP won 70% of the Amerindian vote, and PPP Amerindians were 5%, that leaves only 4% of the voters being African/mixed.
This means that the PPP won less than 10% of the African/mixed vote. It also means that 80% of the PPPs votes came from Indians.
Only about 60% of the votes that APNU/AFC received were from Africans, and this because they won the overwhelming majority of mixed votes.
1. The PPP will NOT win as many Amerindian votes in 2020. That group votes for the government in power to get resources allocated to them. They don't pick sides in our coastal tribal warfare, so don't vote on the basis of principle.
Now dig through your little racist brain and ask yourself how come APNU/AFC won in Lethem when over 85% of the region 9 population is Amerindian. Also the PPP tied in Mabaruma when that area also has a small African population.
THIS SHOULD INDICATE TO YOU THAT THE PPP IS ALREADY LOSING Amerindian votes!
2. So if the PPP is losing Amerindian votes, not getting more than 10% of the combined African/mixed vote and depends on Indians for the bulk of its support, even YOU will see that the PPP will be a gradually dying party.
3. The PPP CANNOT rely on the Amerindian vote, as they vote for the government in power, and Granger is ensuring that this will continue. The Indian population is dwindling, and in fact by 2030 Mixed people will EXCEED the Indian population, and this is IGNORING high rates of migration.
How can the PPP win if they only get 10% of the African/mixed vote when this bloc is growing?
I think you are a fraud who is already making fraudulent claims of the PNC's victory in areas where the mostly Amerindians and Mixed lives.
You have been playing a game with the elections results in region 6 arguing that the PPP won more votes in 2015 than in 2011. Yes, that is true though minimally. What you are not saying is that in region 6 the PPP never lost more than 10% of the votes. It only happened in 2011 and 2015. compare the numbers from prior to 2011 to 2015 or 2011 and you will that it is those few thousands of votes in regions 5 and 6 is what shorted the PPP a few seats. This is not race politics. This reality of the voting that took place.
caribny posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:PNC Green runs GT. And now it's even Greener. Anti PPP den over yonder!
This is the type of hysterical ignorance that one can expect from you. You don't even know what you are trying to say.
Most will agree that G/T isn't the cesspit that it was under the PPP.
It is not surprising that you place no blame on the Mayor and City Council for the atrocious conditions in GT during the PPP years in gov't.
skeldon_man posted:caribny posted:Django posted:caribny posted:By the way Bibi the sign of being an idiot is when you respond with two word sentences, and don't offeryour own analysis.
They can't suddenly they becomes cool like a Cucumber after viewing the 2012 census,FH scratching their heads they mislead the Indians for a long time,wake up call for the funny fellas in the PPP camp.
The PPP thinks that they can simultaneously be the "coolie people party", and yet still get enough Indian votes to win.
PPP has more blacks than PNC has indo dalits.
Suh why you bad mouthing them,are they needed for the votes only so Indo can be say "abhee time".
We the older folk have to teach the young East Indian Guyanese children and dougla Guyanese children on the importance of getting our own sovereign independent nation by peaceful means ( if possible). We as a people have to keep advancing. Guyana will just keep us back and kill us off with racial hate or anti-koolie self hate.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Get real Gil... They say that the 5% of the Indo votes went the AFC. That left 34% of the eligible Indo voters to support the PPP. Are you saying that the next 16% of the votes they won came exclusively from the Amerindians?
I see reading isn't your forte and you can only see life through Indian eyes.
Africans are 30% and APNU/AFC won 51% of the votes. Do the math to see what % of the mixed vote went APNU.
5% of the Indian vote is just over 2% of the overall vote. This then means that 43% of the votes were PPP Indians. Indians were 44% of the voting age population, and when one factors in the lower interior turn out, likely 45% of the votes cast.
Your claims are that 95% of the Indians voted PPP which means that 86% of the PPP votes were from Indians, and when one includes the Amerindian vote (which is now shifting from the PPP, based on the LGE) this leaves only around 2% of the voters being PPP blacks and mixed.
Let me make it easy. 43% (Indian PPP votes)+ 4% (PPP Amerindian votes) means that only 2% were PPP African and Mixed votes.
Stupid fool that you are you made my point even more than I did, as you assert that 95% of the African and mixed voted APNU.
Let us work out another scenario for 2020. If the PPP gets 100% of the Indian votes its 44%. They get only 40% of the Amerindian vote. That is 3%. They get the same share of the black and mixed vote. That is 2%.
So 44+3+2=49%. PPP LOSES.
And the PPP is NOT going to get 100% of the Indian vote! And there will be a smaller voting age Indo population as Indians have the highest levels of migration.
So a real scenario will show the PPP more like 45% in 2020 unless they figure out how to broaden their appeal to black and mixed voters.
And you CANNOT separate the black from the mixed voters because many of these socalled mixed voters are like Benschop and Trotman, people who operate within an Afro Guyanese context, even as they self identify as mixed.
Caribbeanj you worry about the numbers when the East Indian people leave. Then you will get a comrade retrench by the anti-koolie because your services will no longer be needed on GN&I.
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Prashad posted:Caribbeanj you worry about the numbers when the East Indian people leave. Then you will get a comrade retrench by the anti-koolie because your services will no longer be needed on GN&I.
Definition of being anti koolie is suggesting that Indians are AS guilty of racism as are blacks and that blacks have suffered AS MUCH from racism as have Indians. This is what guyanaj, caribj, and caribny have said.
You and the rest of your brown bai KKK scream "blackman a kill ahbe" call blacks useless violent and savage, and seriously don't understand how that is racist.
You call me racist because I refuse to let you all get away with that.
wid dah kind of logic, D2 would be super smart,
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Gilbakka posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:My question to Carib was if the PPP did not attract the mixed people's votes how the hell they got almost 50% when eligible Indos made up only 39% of the electorate?
While Indians make up only 39 percent of the population, a very large proportion of Indians are above 18 years old and eligible to vote. In absolute numbers, more Indians voted than Africans and Mixed. As the incumbent during the last election, the PPP benefited from more Amerindian votes than APNU+AFC. In short, PPP's good showing was due to Indian and Amerindian votes chiefly. The GECOM official results for Regions 1, 8 and 9 show that clearly. But right now, even as I type this comment, President Granger's people are working calculatedly on the ground to win the Amerindians' support.
Get real Gil... They say that the 5% of the Indo votes went the AFC. That left 34% of the eligible Indo voters to support the PPP. Are you saying that the next 16% of the votes they won came exclusively from the Amerindians?
Billy, 5 percent of Indo votes is not the same as 5 percent of Indo population in Guyana. The latest census says there were 297,493 Indos in Guyana. The AFC did not get 5 percent of 297,493. It got 5 per cent of those Indos who are 18 years and older and who actually voted, whatever that number is. Which is to say, a lesser amount than 5 percent of 297,493.
REMINDER: APNU+AFC got 207,200 votes. PPP got 202,694 votes. That is, APNU+AFC got 4,506 more votes than PPP. Five percent of 297,493 total Indos population equals 14,875. But AFC votes which made the PPP lose totaled only 4,506, a far cry from 14,875.
Gilbakka posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Gilbakka posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:My question to Carib was if the PPP did not attract the mixed people's votes how the hell they got almost 50% when eligible Indos made up only 39% of the electorate?
While Indians make up only 39 percent of the population, a very large proportion of Indians are above 18 years old and eligible to vote. In absolute numbers, more Indians voted than Africans and Mixed. As the incumbent during the last election, the PPP benefited from more Amerindian votes than APNU+AFC. In short, PPP's good showing was due to Indian and Amerindian votes chiefly. The GECOM official results for Regions 1, 8 and 9 show that clearly. But right now, even as I type this comment, President Granger's people are working calculatedly on the ground to win the Amerindians' support.
Get real Gil... They say that the 5% of the Indo votes went the AFC. That left 34% of the eligible Indo voters to support the PPP. Are you saying that the next 16% of the votes they won came exclusively from the Amerindians?
Billy, 5 percent of Indo votes is not the same as 5 percent of Indo population in Guyana. The latest census says there were 297,493 Indos in Guyana. The AFC did not get 5 percent of 297,493. It got 5 per cent of those Indos who are 18 years and older and who actually voted, whatever that number is. Which is to say, a lesser amount than 5 percent of 297,493.
REMINDER: APNU+AFC got 207,200 votes. PPP got 202,694 votes. That is, APNU+AFC got 4,506 more votes than PPP. Five percent of 297,493 total Indos population equals 14,875. But AFC votes which made the PPP lose totaled only 4,506, a far cry from 14,875.
How much of those votes (207,200) are credited to the AFC? Give us an estimate.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:How much of those votes (207,200) are credited to the AFC? Give us an estimate.
Billy irrelevant because the PPP will lose the next election if it continues to do poorly among blacks and mixed voters. Your estimate that 95% of Indians voted PPP, means that the PPP won only less than 5% of the black and mixed vote.
The mixed vote is growing. The Indian vote is shrinking. The black vote is static. Amerindians vote for the government in power, as we can see from the Lethem and Mabaruma vote earlier this year. So if the PPP doesn't change how it is seen it will do worse than it did last year.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:How much of those votes (207,200) are credited to the AFC? Give us an estimate.
Someone here posted that the AFC contributed about 8,000 Indo votes to the coalition victory. That's roughly 4 percent of 207,200. The remainder came from other races. Remember, I had said initially months ago that AFC didn't bring its promised 11 percent to the coalition. 11 percent of 207,200 equals 22,792. AFC definitely didn't get 22,792 votes last year. In 2011 election AFC got 35,333 votes. PPP took back most of that last year.
caribny posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:How much of those votes (207,200) are credited to the AFC? Give us an estimate.
Billy irrelevant because the PPP will lose the next election if it continues to do poorly among blacks and mixed voters. Your estimate that 95% of Indians voted PPP, means that the PPP won only less than 5% of the black and mixed vote.
The mixed vote is growing. The Indian vote is shrinking. The black vote is static. Amerindians vote for the government in power, as we can see from the Lethem and Mabaruma vote earlier this year. So if the PPP doesn't change how it is seen it will do worse than it did last year.
Why are so sure that the PPP won't get black and mixed voters? Why would they all vote for the PNC? Your answer is that the PPP is racist! Well, if we rationalize it another way and say the voters, black and mixed, are too Afro-centric or racist to give their votes to the PPP would you agree?
Gilbakka posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:How much of those votes (207,200) are credited to the AFC? Give us an estimate.
Someone here posted that the AFC contributed about 8,000 Indo votes to the coalition victory. That's roughly 4 percent of 207,200. The remainder came from other races. Remember, I had said initially months ago that AFC didn't bring its promised 11 percent to the coalition. 11 percent of 207,200 equals 22,792. AFC definitely didn't get 22,792 votes last year. In 2011 election AFC got 35,333 votes. PPP took back most of that last year.
If the above statement is true then the influence of the AFC has waned given the fact that the number of votes they received in 2015 dropped by at least 30%.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Gilbakka posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:How much of those votes (207,200) are credited to the AFC? Give us an estimate.
Someone here posted that the AFC contributed about 8,000 Indo votes to the coalition victory. That's roughly 4 percent of 207,200. The remainder came from other races. Remember, I had said initially months ago that AFC didn't bring its promised 11 percent to the coalition. 11 percent of 207,200 equals 22,792. AFC definitely didn't get 22,792 votes last year. In 2011 election AFC got 35,333 votes. PPP took back most of that last year.
If the above statement is true then the influence of the AFC has waned given the fact that the number of votes they received in 2015 dropped by at least 30%.
Personally, I think the AFC'c contribution of votes to the coalition did not measure up to expectations. The surprising improvement of PPP votes over 2011 is proof, especially in Regions 2, 3, 5 and 6. Having said that, many APNU supporters believe with justification that APNU got the short end of the stick in parliament where 12 out of the coalition's 33 seats are occupied by the AFC as per Cummingsburg Accord.
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Gilbakka posted:I had said initially months ago that AFC didn't bring its promised 11 percent to the coalition. 11 percent of 207,200 equals 22,792. AFC definitely didn't get 22,792 votes last year. In 2011 election AFC got 35,333 votes. PPP took back most of that last year.
And folks need to note that not all of the votes that the AFC brought in would have been Berbice Indian votes.
The fact that the PPP did so poorly in G/T in the LGE indicates that they aren't popular among Indians there. They didn't win any seat outright. Just some allocation formula that they use to allocate remainder votes. They did very badly in G/T last year and despite the less than inspiring coalition performance, the PPP hasn't recaptured ground that it lost.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:caribny posted:.Why are so sure that the PPP won't get black and mixed voters? Why would they all vote for the PNC? Your answer is that the PPP is racist! Well, if we rationalize it another way and say the voters, black and mixed, are too Afro-centric or racist to give their votes to the PPP would you agree?
If the PPP only got 5% of the black/mixed votes in 2015, why will they in 2020, when the PPP has become a very race based party, which didn't even bother to campaign in majority black/mixed areas?
And they couldn't have gotten more than 5% of the black/mixed if the PPP got 95% of the Indian vote, and the voting age Indian population was 44%!
I will suggest to you that in 2015 they still got a few black/mixed votes from those who felt that they wouldn't lose and who were gobbling PPP soup. I see some of those same black/mixed former PPP soup lickers now groveling down APNU/AFC soup and pushing people aside to get it. They aren't voting PPP in 2020 as the PPP has no soup to give them.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:! Well, if we rationalize it another way and say the voters, black and mixed, are too Afro-centric or racist to give their votes to the PPP would you agree?
Think on this. The PPP screams to Indians that if they don't vote PPP "BLACKMAN gun kill and rape them". They had all of their minions screaming that "Indians must vote for the Indian party". These same minions screamed that Moses is a traitor because he told people in India that his identity is that of a Guyanese.
In the meantime the other side at least had the rhetoric of "Love & Unity, Peace & Harmony". They did NOT demand that blacks support them. They did NOT call Harper a traitor for running as PM in exchange for the lands that she got from the PPP.
So why will blacks and mixed people vote for a party which clearly not only excludes them, but demonizes them as criminals.
This will be like telling Jews to vote for Hitler. This is the trap that the PPP fell into. They turned themselves into a racist party by demonizing blacks, because they thought that the only way that they could avoi9d loss was to terrify Indians about blacks.
Now having confirmed that they are a black hating party they now have to figure out how to work their way out of demographic time bomb which will damn them as a 25% party by 2030, as the mixed emerge as the larges bloc.
Rest assured with Indians outnumbered by them many will see no sense in supporting a "coolie people party" which is destined to lose.
And don't be so naÃŊve to think that when Jagdeo was screaming "PNC" "GDF" and "police" that blacks didn't know that this was code for "BLACKMAN!".
Your response is riddled with lies and distortions. In your eyes black people or a black party like the PNC cannot be racist. Indians have a monopoly on racism and all the biased attacks and discriminatory practices by Blacks are well justified. You are a pure black racist with no love for Indians. Our people will have to get ready to fight people like. Your influence is detrimental to peace and progress.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Your response is riddled with lies and distortions. In your eyes black people or a black party like the PNC cannot be racist. Indians have a monopoly on racism and all the biased attacks and discriminatory practices by Blacks are well justified. You are a pure black racist with no love for Indians. Our people will have to get ready to fight people like. Your influence is detrimental to peace and progress.
I have said frequently that BOTH the PNC and the PPP have been racist.
I have also frequently said that BOTH Indians and blacks have been racist and both have suffered racism.
And you are very aware that I have said this the racist hypocritical toad that you are!
Have you ever admitted that the PPP is racist and that blacks have suffered racism at the hands of Indians? NO!
Its a one sided lament from you about racist blacks. You even want blacks to vote for the PPP which HATES them?
Did I ever insist that you vote PNC? NO!
Your scream is because I don't join you in damning blacks as the only racists in Guyana, or agree that Indians are innocent of racism. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
Now the DUNCE that you are is too DUMB to see that a PPP with its anti black attitude is doomed to lose elections. Indians are NOT the majority, and are SHRINKING.
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And BRG even Vishnu Bisram, who is another brown bai KKK like you, understands that the PPP has to change its ways if it is going to survive.
So whats wrong with you!
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Visnu Busrum is a dead racist and one with a fake PHD that was bought from a paper mill University in India. What a joke.
caribny posted:And BRG even Vishnu Bisram, who is another brown bai KKK like you, understands that the PPP has to change its ways if it is going to survive.
So whats wrong with you!
The PPP gov't. has allocated more resources in per capita terms to Black neighborhoods in Guyana than they did for Indians and Amerindians. This caused many Indians to get upset since they felt the PPP was too appeasing to the demands of the PNC. Have you forgotten the hundreds or perhaps thousands of poor blacks squatting on lands at Sophia and many other areas of the East Coast during the PNC years?? Have you forgotten that it was the PPP gov't that gave them titles to land and built housing schemes across Guyana where blacks and all other groups could live???
Men! You are too biased for me to regard you as a fair minded person or reporter of events in Guyana. The PPP gov't. had 85% of blacks in the employ of government jobs in Guyana. You only chose to highlight a the number of Indians appointed as ambassadors vs. Blacks. There maybe an imbalance there but it does not reflect the same in other areas of employment. The private sector is governed by competition. We know certain groups such as Chinese and Portugese tend to be more successful.
Your claim of Guyana's population being about 20% is bogus. I don't care what census you drew your information. It is absurd! Only a misinformed person or one with a donkey brain would believe that 1 in 5 Guyanese is mixed. Charging that the PPP won't get anything more than the Indo vote is another BS you are pushing. The PPP party was divided coming into the 2011 and 2015 elections. That gave an advantage to the PNC which joined force with a breakaway faction of the PPP. Bear this in mind: The PNC has never won an election in Guyana on its own!!! Come 2020, their chances of doing better than 2015 is far less since the level of corruption has increased contrary to what was promised during the campaign coupled with total dominance of the PNC over the AFC in the gov't.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:caribny posted:And BRG even Vishnu Bisram, who is another brown bai KKK like you, understands that the PPP has to change its ways if it is going to survive.
So whats wrong with you!
The PPP gov't. has allocated more resources in per capita terms to Black neighborhoods in Guyana than they did for Indians and Amerindians. This caused many Indians to get upset since they felt the PPP was too appeasing to the demands of the PNC. Have you forgotten the hundreds or perhaps thousands of poor blacks squatting on lands at Sophia and many other areas of the East Coast during the PNC years?? Have you forgotten that it was the PPP gov't that gave them titles to land and built housing schemes across Guyana where blacks and all other groups could live???
Men! You are too biased for me to regard you as a fair minded person or reporter of events in Guyana. The PPP gov't. had 85% of blacks in the employ of government jobs in Guyana. You only chose to highlight a the number of Indians appointed as ambassadors vs. Blacks. There maybe an imbalance there but it does not reflect the same in other areas of employment. The private sector is governed by competition. We know certain groups such as Chinese and Portugese tend to be more successful.
Your claim of Guyana's population being about 20% is bogus. I don't care what census you drew your information. It is absurd! Only a misinformed person or one with a donkey brain would believe that 1 in 5 Guyanese is mixed. Charging that the PPP won't get anything more than the Indo vote is another BS you are pushing. The PPP party was divided coming into the 2011 and 2015 elections. That gave an advantage to the PNC which joined force with a breakaway faction of the PPP. Bear this in mind: The PNC has never won an election in Guyana on its own!!! Come 2020, their chances of doing better than 2015 is far less since the level of corruption has increased contrary to what was promised during the campaign coupled with total dominance of the PNC over the AFC in the gov't.
1. PPP so called projects in black areas were constructed by PPP contractors who refused to hire local people. Buxton, Linden and others complained about this. When they went to ask for employment, the contractors tugged at their Indian hair, and told these blacks "is not Burnham time now!"
2. When 3,000 blacks lost employment when Jagdeo sold bauxite to the Chinese how did he help them?
3. House lots allocated to blacks were in swampy areas with no infrastructure. In addition those people were threatened that if they didn't vote PPP then they would be tossed off the lands.
4. 20% of Guyanese self identify as mixed. If these people aren't mixed then they are BLACK, which makes life even worse for you, because they surely aren't Indian. This census was conducted in the PPP era and we knew since last year what the ethnic make up was.
5. Who told you that the PNC is going to contest 2020 on its own. The AFC will be with them.
6. I know that you want to hear that Indians are more than 40% but they are NOT! So Jagdeo can continue crowning himself "Lord of the Indians". He cannot win every Indian vote, and he certainly is giving non Indians a reason not to support him!
caribny posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:caribny posted:And BRG even Vishnu Bisram, who is another brown bai KKK like you, understands that the PPP has to change its ways if it is going to survive.
So whats wrong with you!
The PPP gov't. has allocated more resources in per capita terms to Black neighborhoods in Guyana than they did for Indians and Amerindians. This caused many Indians to get upset since they felt the PPP was too appeasing to the demands of the PNC. Have you forgotten the hundreds or perhaps thousands of poor blacks squatting on lands at Sophia and many other areas of the East Coast during the PNC years?? Have you forgotten that it was the PPP gov't that gave them titles to land and built housing schemes across Guyana where blacks and all other groups could live???
Men! You are too biased for me to regard you as a fair minded person or reporter of events in Guyana. The PPP gov't. had 85% of blacks in the employ of government jobs in Guyana. You only chose to highlight a the number of Indians appointed as ambassadors vs. Blacks. There maybe an imbalance there but it does not reflect the same in other areas of employment. The private sector is governed by competition. We know certain groups such as Chinese and Portugese tend to be more successful.
Your claim of Guyana's population being about 20% is bogus. I don't care what census you drew your information. It is absurd! Only a misinformed person or one with a donkey brain would believe that 1 in 5 Guyanese is mixed. Charging that the PPP won't get anything more than the Indo vote is another BS you are pushing. The PPP party was divided coming into the 2011 and 2015 elections. That gave an advantage to the PNC which joined force with a breakaway faction of the PPP. Bear this in mind: The PNC has never won an election in Guyana on its own!!! Come 2020, their chances of doing better than 2015 is far less since the level of corruption has increased contrary to what was promised during the campaign coupled with total dominance of the PNC over the AFC in the gov't.
1. PPP so called projects in black areas were constructed by PPP contractors who refused to hire local people. Buxton, Linden and others complained about this. When they went to ask for employment, the contractors tugged at their Indian hair, and told these blacks "is not Burnham time now!"
Lies!!
2. When 3,000 blacks lost employment when Jagdeo sold bauxite to the Chinese how did he help them?
He invested millions in a hospital, youth programs with lotto funds, and other projects for blacks.
3. House lots allocated to blacks were in swampy areas with no infrastructure. In addition those people were threatened that if they didn't vote PPP then they would be tossed off the lands.
More Lies!! Dazelle, BareRoot, Non-pariel (several sections) and many others were given to blacks. A black contractor and member of APNU ripped of black homeowners.
4. 20% of Guyanese self identify as mixed. If these people aren't mixed then they are BLACK, which makes life even worse for you, because they surely aren't Indian. This census was conducted in the PPP era and we knew since last year what the ethnic make up was.
Concoction blend with exaggeration
5. Who told you that the PNC is going to contest 2020 on its own. The AFC will be with them.
AFC's support has dwindled to nothing.
6. I know that you want to hear that Indians are more than 40% but they are NOT! So Jagdeo can continue crowning himself "Lord of the Indians". He cannot win every Indian vote, and he certainly is giving non Indians a reason not to support him!
Jagdeo is for all people. He is not a racist that you claim. He is a very fair man compare to those who are in office now.
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:1. PPP so called projects in black areas were constructed by PPP
Jagdeo is for all people. He is not a racist that you claim. He is a very fair man compare to those who are in office now.
Jump and scream a holler like a baboon. The vast majority of black and mixed Guyanese think that the PPP in general and Jagdeo in particular are a bunch of racists. When the coalition won the election throngs of black Guyanese ran out screaming that "Thank GOD the slow Holocaust is over....Now I can finally feel like a Guyanese again".
Burnham built the MMA project. Guess who the beneficiaries of that were, though you will scream that he did nothing for Indians. Built secondary schools in rural areas, again who benefitted. Improved rural infrastructure between 1966 and 1973. Guysuco had loads of training programs. Who benefitted?
So run off and name a project here and there as proof and I can do the same.
FACT. Blacks felt discriminated against by the PPP and rejected them in 2015. Thanks to the mammoth turn out in the black and mixed vote in 2015 the PPP is HISTORY.
So run along and scream that you know more about what blacks went through under PPP rule than they did! Given that you blame all racism in Guyana on blacks we know fully well what your attitude towards them is.
You need to respect the fact that most black and mixed Guyanese view the PPP as a racist party just as you will demand that I respect your view that the PNC was/is racist!
If you reject the right of Afro Guyanese to say how they felt under the PPP why scream when they tell you that Indians had no problems under Burnham? Your disrespect towards blacks will generate disrespect directed at YOU.
In the interim a "coolie people party" will FAIL because Indians are NOT the majority any longer!
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Django posted:skeldon_man posted:caribny posted:Django posted:caribny posted:By the way Bibi the sign of being an idiot is when you respond with two word sentences, and don't offeryour own analysis.
They can't suddenly they becomes cool like a Cucumber after viewing the 2012 census,FH scratching their heads they mislead the Indians for a long time,wake up call for the funny fellas in the PPP camp.
The PPP thinks that they can simultaneously be the "coolie people party", and yet still get enough Indian votes to win.
PPP has more blacks than PNC has indo dalits.
Suh why you bad mouthing them,are they needed for the votes only so Indo can be say "abhee time".
They are evil negroes and there are good negroes like any race. If you really has your head on your shoulders, you should not talk "Freddie Kissoon's face"(shit). The PNC needs the coolie dalits as the PPP needs the smart negroes.
skeldon_man posted:Django posted:skeldon_man posted:They can't suddenly they becomes cool like a Cucumber after viewing the 2012 census,FH scratching their heads they mislead the Indians for a long time,wake up call for the funny fellas in the PPP camp.
The PPP thinks that they can simultaneously be the "coolie people party", and yet still get enough Indian votes to win.
PPP has more blacks than PNC has indo dalits.
Suh why you bad mouthing them,are they needed for the votes only so Indo can be say "abhee time".
They are evil negroes and there are good negroes like any race. If you really has your head on your shoulders, you should not talk "Freddie Kissoon's face"(shit). The PNC needs the coolie dalits as the PPP needs the smart negroes.
Bhai,you need to refresh your memory a lot of high ranking Indoes cross the floor.
The current crew at F.H from H.O.I,are discards.
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the PPP needs the smart negroes.
Yes the PPP "negroes" who used to beat up the PPP when they were House of Israel goons. These are the blacks who the PPP likes.
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