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A Snag in Donald Trump’s Pledge to Make America Make Again: Asia

China’s workers and region’s supply chain are integral to electronics manufacturing

By Kathy Chu and Juro Osawa

https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-QV270_ASUPPL_IM_20161116040857.jpgWorkers inside a Foxconn factory in the township of Longhua in the southern Guangdong province in this file photo. Photo: Reuters

HONG KONG—Asia’s sophisticated electronics supply chain and massive labor pool are two obstacles standing in the way of President-elect Donald Trump’s pledge to make U.S. companies bring manufacturing jobs home.

When Jabil Circuit Inc., the world’s third-largest contract manufacturer by revenue, needed to quickly ramp up production of its electronics components a few years ago, the company was able to add 35,000 workers in China in less than six weeks.

“In no other country can you scale up so quickly,” said John Dulchinos, vice president of digital manufacturing at Jabil, a St. Petersburg, Fla., supplier to companies such as Apple Inc. and Electrolux SA. “You have the ability to move quickly and there’s a really strong electronics supply chain in Asia centered around China.”

Jabil’s experience underscores the integral roles of China’s armies of migrant workers and Asia’s decades-old supply chain in global electronics production. It is an issue Mr. Trump will need to address if he wants to bring large-scale production back to a U.S. economy that Washington, D.C. think tank Economic Policy Institute estimates has lost more than 5.4 million manufacturing jobs and 82,000 factories between 1997 and 2013.

“I’m going to get Apple to start making their computers and their iPhones on our land, not in China,” Mr. Trump said in March, a theme he repeated throughout his campaign. “How does it help us when they make it in China?”

The president elect has threatened to impose a 45% tariff on Chinese imports to the country. This move could hurt companies manufacturing in China such as Apple, Dell Technologies, and HP Inc. It would drag down China’s GDP by 4.8% and Chinese exports to the U.S. by 87% in three years, according to Daiwa Capital Markets Hong Kong’s Kevin Lai.

To be sure, there is uncertainty as to whether Mr. Trump will tone down his campaign rhetoric as president. He has indicated potential for compromise in other policy points since his election last week.

A stiff tariff on Chinese imports could accelerate the migration of electronics factories from China to lower-cost Asian countries like Vietnam, rather than boosting U.S. electronics production, some analysts warn.

Apple, in a statement, said it has created more than two million jobs in the U.S. for engineers, retail and call-center employees and delivery drivers. The company said it works with more than 8,000 suppliers in the U.S. and is “investing heavily in American jobs and innovation.”

HP declined to comment. A Dell spokesman said the company looks forward to working closely with the new administration on “priority IT issues like security, trade and cloud computing.”

While U.S. electronics companies already manufacture high-end, lower-volume products such as the Apple Mac Pro in the country, President Obama and Sen. Bernie Sanders have questioned whether mass-produced electronics—and specifically the ever-popular iPhone—can also be made profitably in the U.S.

The answer, experts say, is that while iPhone assembly in the U.S. is theoretically possible, it is highly improbable because of the difficulty of relocating assembly and other parts of Asia’s sprawling electronics chain to the West.

While iPhones are designed in California, Apple sources memory chips from Korean suppliers and displays—which are the most expensive component in the iPhone—from Japanese suppliers, then uses Taiwanese companies such as Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. and Pegatron Corp. to assemble iPhones in mainland China. Apple also uses U.S. suppliers to make components such as glass and radio-frequency parts in the country.

Mr. Trump “wouldn’t be able to finish (such a move) during his presidency,” said Sanford C. Bernstein’s Alberto Moel.

Another barrier to moving manufacturing back to the U.S. is that U.S. electronics companies often outsource production, so they don’t always have full control over where their goods are made.

With China now the world’s largest consumer market for smartphones and other gadgets, it makes sense for U.S. companies and their assemblers to keep manufacturing bases in Asia, says Steve Chuang, chairman of the Hong Kong Electronics Industry Council, which represents manufacturers in mainland China. Some manufacturing jobs done in China with human labor could be lost to machines if production moves back to the U.S., economists warn.

Last December, Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook said on the CBS program “60 Minutes” that the company manufactures its products in China in part because Chinese workers possess “vocational kind of skills” increasingly difficult to find in the U.S. “That is the reality,” Mr. Cook said.

Even if Apple finds enough workers to assemble in the U.S., the cost of making an Apple iPhone 7 could increase $30 to $40, estimates Jason Dedrick, a professor at the School of Information Studies at Syracuse University. Since labor accounts for only a small part of an electronic device’s overall costs, most of these higher expenses would come from shipping parts to the U.S.

If the iPhone components were also made in the U.S., the device’s costs could climb up to $90, according to Mr. Dedrick’s research with UC Berkeley’s Greg Linden and UC Irvine’s Ken Kraemer. That means that, if Apple chose to pass along all these costs to consumers, the device’s retail price could climb about 14%.

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Trump is fully aware of this, given that he is massively involved in the use of contractors and outsourcing.

The man pulled the biggest con job of the century fooling all of those Midwest impoverished.  Don't worry baseman will find some excuse.

FM

What Trump needs to address is that the US work force is mismatched with the jobs available.  As a businessman he should be able to speak to major employers about this, and to determine what assistance that the US labor force needs to have the hard and soft skills needed.

To fool poorly educated people that jobs with screw drivers will come back to the USA is a cruel con.  He needs to invest massively in skills training and in mechanisms to match workers with jobs, with workers getting assistance in obtaining the training, and mindset that is needed.

For instance most jobs that will be available will require people with cognitive skills.  It will be the ability to quickly spot and solve problems that will be needed. Chinese, Vietnamese, and increasingly Kenyans, will beat them on repetitive process oriented jobs.  Only the robot can compete with this.

US companies have to compete with their European, and increasingly their Asian competitors.  The fastest growing markets are OUTSIDE of the USA. If Trump wants to force US companies to locate entire parts of the supply chain outside of the US, including those parts currently performed in the USA, he can slap a 45% tariff.  Asian nations will do the same to US imports, pushing the USA out of entire markets.

Let us see what baseman says as he drools over his fellow Klansman!

FM

Baseman is a peasant of the Animal Farm variety. Trump told him that he will do the best ever, and Baseman buys that.

He is like a kid excited about a present in a box, even before he has opened it.

The reality looks like Trump isn't going to do very much.

He will remove the mandates from Obamacare as well as the taxes used to fund it. It will be then called Trumpcare, and he will take full credit for it.

Of course when it goes into the death spiral, as it surely will without mandates, he will then blame Obama.

Trump seems even less interested in dealing with the underlying crisis in health care delivery costs than Obama was.

And his suppliers in Asia have already told him that slapping heavy tariffs will hurt the Trump Organization badly.

FM

The president elect has threatened to impose a 45% tariff on Chinese imports to the country. This move could hurt companies manufacturing in China such as Apple, Dell Technologies, and HP Inc. It would drag down China’s GDP by 4.8% and Chinese exports to the U.S. by 87% in three years, according to Daiwa Capital Markets Hong Kong’s Kevin Lai.

To be sure, there is uncertainty as to whether Mr. Trump will tone down his campaign rhetoric as president. He has indicated potential for compromise in other policy points since his election last week.

A stiff tariff on Chinese imports could accelerate the migration of electronics factories from China to lower-cost Asian countries like Vietnam, rather than boosting U.S. electronics production, some analysts warn.

A Snag in Donald Trump’s Pledge to Make America Make Again: Asia, China’s workers and region’s supply chain are integral to electronics manufacturing, By Kathy Chu and Juro Osawa

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Effects of Trump's "loud talk" will be seen, as time progresses.

FM

China has an advanced electronic supply chain and large pools of skilled labor that cannot be matched in the US.

Baseman and Trump pissing in the wind. The gullible and informed were duped.

 

FM

Bannas, get this, you spend enormous amount of time talking and talking, analyzing and analyzing.  You build castles on quick sand.  Between Kari, Caribj and D2, you guys would overwhelm even Encyclopedia Britanica.

I study issues and come to my conclusions and don't bother to engage in elongated discussions with people whose mind have been rock-solid pre-cast.  I tell you what I think will happen, I don't need to take you through my thinking as to why. A year ago when I said Trump had credibility, you guys laughed.  This was during the Primaries!

You guys check out the shipping index surge, a bet on enhanced trade under Trump!  Dying/stagnant bricks and mortar companies getting major boost under Trump.

FM

China has an advanced electronic supply chain and large pools of skilled labor that cannot be matched in the US.

Baseman and Trump pissing in the wind. The gullible and informed were duped.

Banna, the world is changing, China is changing, they will need these skilled workers.  The US can do the same with 25% of the manpower.

FM

D_G, you have become the GNI mother of all jokers!!

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While not having anything of substance to offer, you-Ba$eman resort to irrelevant issues to serve your only needs.

FM

Baseman US labor is expensive and there are severe shortages of people with the right hard and soft skills.  Aside from tossing out lettuce pickers, landscapers and nannies, and risking major trade wars I have not seen what Trump plans to do.

The USA is a signatory to the WTO which specifically prevents non tariff "incentives" which distort trade.  The USA has in fact cracked down on other countries which have done so, periodically putting in place measures to offset the impact of those measures. Other nations will be very quick to exact revenge if Trump tries anything.

Again I see rhetoric from you and not a solid response. 

Yes China is changing. Thanks to the ranting of the idiot that you voted for China has moved ahead to galvanize other Asian nations, so even if they cannot fit into a particular part of the supply chain, as their labor costs increase, they can slot another Asian country in. Vietnam is primed and ready to go. Bangladesh in the clothing and textiles.

The Asian nations wanted a trade alliance with a powerful nation. The USA isn't up to it so China has filled the void. Good going as what is now the 2nd largest economy rushes to become the largest.  And Lord help all of us when that happens.

You vote because of racism.  You find a man who the KKK loves so you love him too. What is clear to me is that you have no idea what the man can do, and what he plans to do.

In the meantime 53% of the population voted AGAINST him, and many of those who did are telling him that he has a short window to deliver those jobs, and to change their lives. 

This Trump honeymoon will not last beyond March, unless he starts being inclusive.  The Trump kids and their spouses being involved in the Federal gov't, while still running their business is unseemly. Americans didn't like it when there was a whiff that Hillary was doing this with the Foundation.  They will NOT tolerate it if Trump runs the USA as if it is the United States of Trump.

FM

DG baseman voted for Trump because he saw how popular he was among the white supremacists.  Even in the primaries clearly they favored Trump, so he favored them to.

The man is completely unable to explain what Trump is doing that makes sense. All of this "he will be the best president ever".

Baseman Trump is like Jim Jones and he has given you cool-aid to drink.  Better hope that he didn't poison it THIS TIME!

FM

Do you know why you voted for Burnham and the PNC ever after they destroyed Guyana?  Baseman voted for Trump for baseman's reasons.  I don't need to justify to you or anyone else.  This is not Guyana where people are accountable to you wanting lil dal with his rice.  Go to hell!

FM

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