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AFC, APNU talks on local govt elections collapsed over key demands

 

Talks on jointly contesting the upcoming local government elections collapsed over the percentage allocation of seats and the time-frame for submitting nominees, a top Alliance For Change ((AFC) official says.

President David Granger, for his part, also confirmed there was a disagreement on undisclosed principles.

“We did exchange certain memoranda and the APNU had drafted its own core principles and we submitted those principles to the AFC for their consideration

I don’t know about the internal decision-making in the AFC but we respect the decision  and AFC I think respects the decision within the APNU,” Granger told reporters Monday morning.
 
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the AFC official said APNU preferred did not want to agree to a 60-40 percentage allocation of candidates for local government elections scheduled for November 12, 2018.
 
“Also, the AFC  source said APNU wanted all candidates to campaign on the ground before deciding on the eve of nomination day who will actually be nominated.
 
We asked for a certain percentage and, of course, it was said that that only applies to general election and it is better that we go and name the people at an appropriate time just before nomination dat after seeing how candidates perform in the campaign trail and our supporters and members and other leaders of the party said we might as well go and show how popular we are or how unpopular we are at this election,” the senior AFC official told Demerara Waves Online News.
 
The issue of percentage allocation had been a major area of concern in the 2016 local government elections.  The AFC had wanted 40 percent of the candidates in keeping with the Cummingsburg political agreement with APNU for the 2015 general elections.
 
The AFC official said his party contesting the local polls in some neighbourhood councils and towns would be a dress rehearsal for the 2020 general elections should the two political organisations again fail to contest those elections separately. At the same time, that AFC party official, who is a member of parliament, reiterated that his party was committed to the coalition politics.
 
“It is not that we are breaking up the coalition. We, as a coalition, will have to be as a coalition to do battle with the PPL at a General election,” the ARC official said.
 
President Granger also Monday morning reiterated that despite the AFC’s decision for local elections, the two remained committed to a national coalition.
 
“It is my view that both the AFC and APNU remain committed to coalition politics and this, in no way, will damage the prospects of our two parties going into the general and regional elections. This is entirely a local matter, entirely a party political matter but we do not feel there is any danger that the coalition is in jeopardy,” Granger said
 
Meanwhile, the opposition People’s Progressive Party slammed the AFC’s move as a “clumsy” attempt to go contest the local elections in some PPP strongholds.

“The trickery is that they will come into certain PPP strongholds in which APNU will not contest, as a Trojan horse, pretending to be independent of the APNU in order to garner some sympathy votes in these areas.   

That they think they can pull off such clumsy stunts is illustrative of the lack of respect which they have for the intelligence of the Guyanese electorate,” the PPP said.

That parliamentary opposition party urged Guyanese “not to allow themselves to be used by this moribund cabal of untrustworthy politicians, grasping at the last straw for their survival.”

http://demerarawaves.com/2018/...on-is-a-clumsy-ploy/

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AFC too big eye:

"The issue of percentage allocation had been a major area of concern in the 2016 local government elections.  The AFC had wanted 40 percent of the candidates in keeping with the Cummingsburg political agreement with APNU for the 2015 general elections."
 
Granger told the AFC to take a hike.
FM
Gilbakka posted:

Ha ha ha! AFC wants 40% again in November. And dem want to poach PPP votes too. Dem cork duck.

I had to read it twice. 

Translation: Moses and Ramjattan Cork Duck. Let us see them campaigning in Berbice. This will be fun to watch. Granger will not transport PNC supporters to build up AFC's crowd.

Ha Ha Ha !!!!

FM

Everything that’s happening to the AFC regarding the PNC I predicted back in 2011.  I never witnessed such naivety from guys who were in politics.  They got high on power and sold their souls to the devil.

Today they are still as stupid expecting 40% when they hardly have a constituency they can count on.  

The PPP and PNC both have great intrinsic value, the AFC runs on a hope and dream premium.  This has now virtually evaporated leaving them totally naked.

FM

Both of those guys know the truth.  I can only offer my perspective being once on the inside.  

I had actually liked the group, but the anti PPP venom and pro-PNC naivety got to me.  

FM

That venom was spewed by the likes of Gerhard, TK, Moses and Ramjattan. They were power hungry and their pride and arrogance brought their downfall.

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Granger is crushing their Ball* now. I agree with Granger 100 percent. They need to prove to him that they are worth 40 percent of the coalition.

Who will the AFC fool this time around ? Mitwah, D2 or Iguana's snake oil bottles are empty, people ain't buying snake oil anymore. 

Hey Hey Hey.

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If Moses leaves the house of APNU he will leave naked. I think he will remain with APNU even if the AFC goes independent in 2020. Why be on a losing team? Better to be on with APNU who might be able to rig and stay on in power.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

If Moses leaves the house of APNU he will leave naked. I think he will remain with APNU even if the AFC goes independent in 2020. Why be on a losing team? Better to be on with APNU who might be able to rig and stay on in power.

Whether Moses stays or goes, he is obsolete. He is a nuttin' burger now. He will be out to the pasture come2020. He got his fat pension and the attention he was craving. AFC going alone in LGE will give Granger and idea as to how much support AFC commands. Chances are Granger will toss them out after the LGE the same way Burnham did to D'Aguiar.

FM
Baseman posted:

Both of those guys know the truth.  I can only offer my perspective being once on the inside.  

I had actually liked the group, but the anti PPP venom and pro-PNC naivety got to me.  

NAMAKARAM CRABDAAG PARASITES WHO ARE WILL TO WIPE BATTY, KISS ASS AND SELL THEIR MOST VALUABLE POSSESSIONS FOR WEALTH AND POWER ARE LESS VALUABLE TO HUMANS THAN RAW SEWAGE OR COW SHIT. AT LEAST, COW SHIT CAN BE USED AS MANURE. THESE LESS THAN RAW SEWAGE ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING!!!

Nehru
skeldon_man posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

If Moses leaves the house of APNU he will leave naked. I think he will remain with APNU even if the AFC goes independent in 2020. Why be on a losing team? Better to be on with APNU who might be able to rig and stay on in power.

Whether Moses stays or goes, he is obsolete. He is a nuttin' burger now. He will be out to the pasture come2020. He got his fat pension and the attention he was craving. AFC going alone in LGE will give Granger and idea as to how much support AFC commands. Chances are Granger will toss them out after the LGE the same way Burnham did to D'Aguiar.

Correct.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

Whether we like it or dislike it, Guyana's destiny is in the hands of the PPP, PNC and ExxonMobil.

AFC? Dem cork duck. Ha!!!

100 Percent correct. 

One GNI poster stated that the GNI AFC group is still supporting the AFC Jumbie.

Mitwah was heard singing Bhoot, Bhoot, Ahhhhh, Ahhhh.....

FM
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