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NICIL issue concocted and fabricated by Opposition – Finance Minister challenges AFC to produce computations

<small>Other Stories — By on May 11, 2012 5:15 PM</small>

Prime Minister Hinds at the press conference at the National Communications Network studio. Also in photo are Minister of Finance Dr Ashni Singh and Attorney General Anil Nandlall.

Minister of Finance Dr. Ashni Singh has challenged the Alliance for Change (AFC) party to publicly declare its computations and details on how that party arrived at the sum of $50B being held back from the Consolidated Fund through the National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL).

AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan in a recent press conference declared that the PPP has hidden in excess of $50 B in secret bank accounts and that these monies were largely acquired and routed through NICIL.

Minister Singh, during a press conference on Wednesday, stated that since the AFC has stated authoritatively a figure of $50B.

“They should publish publicly the basis on which they arrived at this $50B. They need to come clean and say to the people of Guyana this is how we arrived at the $50B.”

Minister Singh stated emphatically that the amount of resources in hand by NICIL is not anywhere near $50B.

He noted that the NICIL issue is an attempt at creating a storm in a teacup, “and generating an imagined hysteria” by one or two politicians.

Responding to questions from the media, Minister Singh explained that NICIL operates within the Companies Act since it is registered as a company and so governed. He added that the company being government owned, it is audited by the Auditor General’s office as a group holding company with subsidiaries. Additionally, NICIL’s consolidated audited financial statements are tabled in Parliament.

The minister pointed out also that NICIL has made public details of every single privatisation transaction that it has conducted recently, and during a specially organised seminar to which the press was invited, NICIL disclosed

every single transaction, disposal as a corporate entity, property sale, and asset sale. The document recording this was produced and made publicly available. The mode of privatization and all other details of the transactions were included in that documentation.

The Finance Minister that it is easy and convenient, and politically opportunistic for the opposition “instead of referring to those publicly available sources, instead of recognising that we have never hesitated to speak publicly about these transactions they instead concoct and fabricate a controversy where one does not exist.”

He pointed out that if more information is being sought, a question should be asked properly in the Parliament, and as always, the answer would be provided.

Minister of Legal Affairs, Anil Nandlall who was also present at the press conference, endorsed Minister Singh’s statement that the Opposition have created this issue.

“They have created it and the press has assisted them in spinning this thing around.”

He pointed out that Ramjattan and Nagamootoo were sitting on the PPP side of the bench when the privatisation procedure was presented, debated and unanimously approved by the National Assembly in the mid-90s, and NICIL was identified as the body to do the transactions.

He noted that during the previous administration, privatisation was done through about five different entities, for which there was no accounting record of transactions.
NICIL has records of all transactions, and a chronicle of those transactions were done, including the names of the people to whom properties were sold, when they were sold, the price for which they were sold.

“What is the mystery? What other information is there that you need?” he asked adding that, “this monster, this phantom controversy has been created and is just out there. And they keep perpetuating that thing. They create this big furor of a motion in the parliament to demand answers. What answers? We can bring a whole wheelbarrow of books tomorrow and give them of reports. We are a responsible political party, and we will continue to engage in the exercise as tedious and as painstaking as it is of explaining over and over again these procedures. Hopefully, we will get the press to help us in the same way they have spun this misinformation out of control, that we spin it back into control.”

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Samuel Hinds pointed to the fact that NICIL which was created by the previous administration has a real role in our society, “NICIL is set up there because you still need an agency that would take risks and lead some development where the private sector is reluctant.”

He pointed to the Berbice River Bridge, which was spearheaded by NICIL, ” and with the problems we had with the Demerara Harbour Bridge, I would like to see NICIL play a role in giving us a fixed bridge across the Demerara (river). So when I hear about putting all the monies into the Consolidated Fund, I think there could only be talking in my view, about the capital money,” Prime Minister posited.

Minister Singh noted that NICIL as the Government holding company has scored some resounding successes such as the Berbice River Bridge, “This is the first instance of private capital being invested in public infrastructure, and this mode of privately financed public infrastructure, is a mode that is recognised around the world.”

He said, “In most other countries you would need an international investment company to do this, to explain the documentation to private investors, to work with them to get them on board. We should be proud in Guyana that we structured that transaction using local expertise and concluded it using local investment and we have to thank NICIL for that.”

The Prime Minister endorsed this statement adding, “If we are talking about building our country, we have to take the responsibility for financing. Institutions like NICL lead the way, going in the risk period, getting it running and pulling out. There are many areas in our development where this is required, and you need and agency to do this, and they need to keep money in hand. This call for all their capital money to be just put in the (Consolidated) Fund like that – we should hope that our government doesn’t get into the hands of people who really think that way. The 70s and 80s remind us to be guarded against those kinds of people getting back into government,’ he declared.

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Bai Nehru, the certificates issued by the PPP are not worth the toilet paper they are printed on.

To give you an idea of what I mean: how many sheets of paper do you get for $1 when you buy a roll of toilet paper? And how many Guyanese $1 can you get for that same U$1? I bet you there are more Guyanese dollars in a U$1 then there are sheets of toilet papers.

Mr.T

Mr. T is a typical economics illiterate like Ramjattan. He has no idea how exchange rate work. He sounds like Carl Greenidge assistant, the same Greenidge who bankrupt Guyana.

 

Ashni can be a tutor for the whole PNC and AFC. He should start nite classes for these dunces.

 

FM

Mr. Burnham and the PNC never felt any pain or sympathy for the people of Guyana during those terrible years of food shortages, human rights violations, tyrannical rule, and corruption to your nose. Why would they be interested in someone whose prime interest is to help increase the living standard of the ordinary man?

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Tall Man:

Mr. T is a typical economics illiterate like Ramjattan. He has no idea how exchange rate work. He sounds like Carl Greenidge assistant, the same Greenidge who bankrupt Guyana.

 

Ashni can be a tutor for the whole PNC and AFC. He should start nite classes for these dunces.

 

Ashni never ran a cakeshop. Guyana is his oyster and if pillage was not accessible he would be no less a run of the mill hack that jagdeo was with respect to income and that mediocrity in running our nations economy is self evident. The problem with the PPP is it is not a an incubator of the best and brightest. It farms ideological morons whose capacity for creative thinking is lobotomized by the time they get to positions of influence. The PPP is a derivative engine for turning out the stale and the insipid. It would actually break a good mind if it enters that culture.

 

Mr T at least runs an international business and feeds himself on his own creative work and is  not a leech on the state.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Tall Man:

Mr. T is a typical economics illiterate like Ramjattan. He has no idea how exchange rate work. He sounds like Carl Greenidge assistant, the same Greenidge who bankrupt Guyana.

 

Ashni can be a tutor for the whole PNC and AFC. He should start nite classes for these dunces.

 

Ashni never ran a cakeshop. Guyana is his oyster and if pillage was not accessible he would be no less a run of the mill hack that jagdeo was with respect to income and that mediocrity in running our nations economy is self evident. The problem with the PPP is it is not a an incubator of the best and brightest. It farms ideological morons whose capacity for creative thinking is lobotomized by the time they get to positions of influence. The PPP is a derivative engine for turning out the stale and the insipid. It would actually break a good mind if it enters that culture.

 

Mr T at least runs an international business and feeds himself on his own creative work and is  not a leech on the state.

Bai, datt peeple cyan seh bout all bady an datt natt fair.  Dem bin seh Jagdeo bin weak and saff, well mi tink dem Buxton bais nah goa gree wid alyuh deh.

 

Looko alyuh own Abama up deh, dem bin seh befor he tunn prezzy all he experience wah some orginiza an' bin manage wan lil town colleck garbage an soa.  Now dah wan big big man, an e black pon tap.

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Ashni never ran a cakeshop.

 

You are right. The PNC ran a cakeshop and you ran Cassava Bread Shop. Ashni is not in the same league.

Nah mek rass, PNC bin run KSI.  Jess geh wan PNC cyaad, cheeze, aile and buttah galore.  Ashni nevva do datt.

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Tall Man:

Mr. T is a typical economics illiterate like Ramjattan. He has no idea how exchange rate work. He sounds like Carl Greenidge assistant, the same Greenidge who bankrupt Guyana.

 

Ashni can be a tutor for the whole PNC and AFC. He should start nite classes for these dunces.

 

Ashni never ran a cakeshop. Guyana is his oyster and if pillage was not accessible he would be no less a run of the mill hack that jagdeo was with respect to income and that mediocrity in running our nations economy is self evident. The problem with the PPP is it is not a an incubator of the best and brightest. It farms ideological morons whose capacity for creative thinking is lobotomized by the time they get to positions of influence. The PPP is a derivative engine for turning out the stale and the insipid. It would actually break a good mind if it enters that culture.

 

Mr T at least runs an international business and feeds himself on his own creative work and is  not a leech on the state.

Bai, datt peeple cyan seh bout all bady an datt natt fair.  Dem bin seh Jagdeo bin weak and saff, well mi tink dem Buxton bais nah goa gree wid alyuh deh.

 

Looko alyuh own Abama up deh, dem bin seh befor he tunn prezzy all he experience wah some orginiza an' bin manage wan lil town colleck garbage an soa.  Now dah wan big big man, an e black pon tap.

 America is not run as Guyana. Here the President is not an autocratic. Congress has the purse and he works with them. The senate and the presidency here are co equal. In Guyana we have an entrenched oligarchy resisting intrusion into their world. In Guyana, a little snipping of the budget and the PPP goes into hysterics. DO you think the democrat can lace the society with their cronies as the PPP has? Do you think that they can dispose of the nations assets as they have?  Fortunately, Guyana is not going back to the PPP framework anymore. They will learn to be responsible custodians or lose.

FM

Stormborn is not aware that Obama has not had a budget for three years. Obama bailed those fat cats from Wall Street. His campaign team was made up of mostly Wall Street fat cats. He gave $500million to fat cats at Solarya or something like that and they lost all of it.

FM
Originally Posted by Tall Man:

Stormborn is not aware that Obama has not had a budget for three years. Obama bailed those fat cats from Wall Street. His campaign team was made up of mostly Wall Street fat cats. He gave $500million to fat cats at Solarya or something like that and they lost all of it.

 Where is it your genius allowed you do deduce what I would know or not? A fat cat here is not as a fat cat in GY. You would be having to make your fat cats on the back of the nation. At least Geithner etal did their thing ( outside he agency of their party) on their own.

 

I also suggest you re examine the Solarya deal. It is not that he was intentionally facilitating corruption but the recipient of the loan was corrupt and they will pay for it.

 

Obama could not as Jagdeo did, hand over 800k of the nations money to build a hotel only to have said hotel escalate in value ( with additional government perks) and then sold yet not repay the treasury.

 

In any event, we still await the unfolding of NICIL.

FM
 

This is mid 2012. Where are the reports since then? Could we see a compilation of what was done with the nations money with the itemized credits and debits so we can understand for ourselves whether we have outstanding citizens handling our cash or whether as believed a cravenly  corrupt   crew is slurping on our nation's marrow bones and making all of us weak..

FM

Brassington: Prove corruption and I’ll quit

-willing to appear before Parliament committee

 

Winston Brassington speaking yesterday

Head of the Privatisation Unit, Winston Brassington says he is prepared to be questioned by any parliamentary committee and would resign if the Opposition produces evidence to substantiate its assertions of corruption in the operations of the government holding company NICIL.

In a briefing with members of the media yesterday, Brassington, CEO of National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL) lashed out at Alliance For Change (AFC) Member of Parliament Khemraj Ramjattan for his recent media attacks against him.

While he said he would not mind engaging thepress with these matters, “don’t attack my integrity.”

“I have been doing my job and working in Government for over 17 years. My honesty is very important to me. Now you can argue issues, but don’t attack my honesty without putting something to back it up,” he said. “They make these headlines, but they have not put a single shred of evidence of anything we have done outside of our mandate. They are the criminals when they say these things and don’t back it up. I am going to wage a battle where if they want to put up, then back it up,” a livid Brassington said. “I am not going to have the integrity of myself, my people or this office impugned when we have done what we have been doing in accordance with the laws,” he said. “I don’t mind being in the papers every day, but don’t attack my integrity,” he said.

Further, he said that while he would have preferred a forum where he has an opportunity to ask questions of Ramjattan, he said he wouldn’t mind going before a committee of Parliament, whether it be the Economic Services Committee or another. However, he recognised that in such a forum he would be constrained in that he would not be able to ask questions of the committee or any of its members.

“I have no problem going before any parliamentary committee but I will need to be guided as to what is the role of some of these committees. I have in the past gone to committees. There is no substance to any of his arguments. If [Ramjattan] does not want a face to face [engagement] let him put the questions to us and we will answer. I hear all these things in the press and I ask myself am I going there to a contrived situation? Are we going to deal with real issues?” he asked.

$20 billion

Brassington said that since 1994, the NICIL/Privatisation Unit paid over $20 billion in dividends and privatisation proceeds from land and property sales.

He said that between 2002 and 2007 over $9 billion was paid over as dividends and over $12 billion paid in privatisation proceeds.

He said that the privatisation framework is defined in a white paper which sets out very clearly a three-tiered process “under which privatisation by this government is conducted.”

“So we have a Privatisation Unit which is a technical unit, which reports to the Privatisation Board, which reports to Cabinet, and of course the President is the head of the Cabinet,” he said, adding that people single out the President because “everything that we do we have a Cabinet decision.”

“This has been the institutional framework which has been adopted in 1993 when the PPP/C came to Government in 1992. It was set out in a policy paper called the Privatisation Framework Policy Paper. This framework was tabled in Parliament in 1993 as the policy of the Government with respect to privatisation and it clearly sets out a three-level process that was different from before. You have on the Privatisation Board members of civil society, labour, consumers, and the private sector and they participate in the decisions of privatisation,” Brassington said.

He pointed out that it is the Privatisation Board’s decision that goes to Cabinet, not the Privatisation Unit. “We may make our recommendations to the Board, but it is the Board’s recommendation that goes to Cabinet,” he said.

Brassington explained that while NICIL is a government company, “it is a private company registered under the Companies Act. The directors are appointed by government and we have paid over substantial sums to the government.”

He said that for any company under the Companies Act, only a portion of profits is paid as dividend and the decision to pay dividends rests with the directors of the company.

“In fact it is a general principle that if the directors of a company recommend a dividend to the shareholders, the shareholders have to approve it. They cannot increase the size of the dividend,” he said in response to those suggesting that NICIL should pay more to the Treasury.

Commenting on whether the Companies Act is in conflict with the supreme law of the land – the Constitution – on public monies being turned over to the Consolidated Fund, Brassington said that he believes that there was an article in the Constitution which said “unless if governed by another Act.”

That article, 216 says “All revenues or other monies raised or received by Guyana (not being revenues or other monies that are payable, by or under an Act of Parliament into some other fund established for any specific purpose or that may, by or under such an Act, be retained by the authority that received them for the purpose or defraying expenses of that authority) shall be paid into and form one Consolidated Fund.”

He said that if the government desires that NICIL pays more then it could speak to those directors with a view to achieving this end. “It is the directors who are empowered under the rules of the company to determine the level of dividend,” he said.

He said that while the government appoints the directors, the directors do not have to comprise government people.

“NICIL is a holding company. We have a dozen companies owned, which generate billions of dollars in sales, pay billions of dollars in taxes. Is the [AFC] proposing outright shutdown and privatisation of everything?” he asked.

Brassington said that NICIL is authorised to hold monies garnered through disposal of state assets under the authority of the Companies Act. Referring to the July 1990 incorporation agreement for NICIL, under the Companies Act, Brassington said that part of the company’s objective is to invest the monies of the company not immediately required.

He said that the money may be invested in one of the subsidiaries. “Guyoil is building service stations…that’s investment. That gets reflected in the consolidated accounts as investments. That’s financed out of the internal generation of Guyoil,” Brassington said.

FM

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