AFC NOMINATION DAY RALLY!!!

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AFC NOMINATION DAY RALLY!!!

Parade Ground, 4:00PM, today, October 27

(March from Parade Ground to City Hall at 1:30PM)

Come join the Alliance for Change!! Put an end to corruption and divisive politics! Let us finally take Guyana forward as one people, as GUYANESE!

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Former Member

good luck bro...wish I was there!

10/27/111:22 PM

Former Member

Moses has changed. The real fight has started..

10/27/111:25 PM

warrior (Guest)

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Originally posted by raymond:
good luck bro...wish I was there!

me too my heart and soul will be with them

10/27/111:39 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by raymond:
good luck bro...wish I was there!
me too my heart and soul will be with them

What heart? You don't have one..

10/27/111:44 PM

warrior (Guest)

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by raymond:
good luck bro...wish I was there!
me too my heart and soul will be with them

What heart? You don't have one..

you should know,i went to guyana for a visit and those ppp crime family steal it.i make a report to rohee and he say that he cannot do anything,he bussy writing books

10/27/111:48 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by raymond:
good luck bro...wish I was there!
me too my heart and soul will be with them

What heart? You don't have one..
you should know,i went to guyana for a visit and those ppp crime family steal it.i make a report to rohee and he say that he cannot do anything,he bussy writing books

So he will be making lots of dough from his writings.

10/27/111:51 PM

NehruBig Mouth Member

GR, Hope yuh Camers wukin now.

10/27/111:51 PM

ChiefSenior Member

All the best Gerhard.

10/27/111:56 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Nehru:
GR, Hope yuh Camers wukin now.

you mean GR cameras wasn't working when he posted all the pictures he did?

10/27/111:57 PM

warrior (Guest)

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by raymond:
good luck bro...wish I was there!
me too my heart and soul will be with them

What heart? You don't have one..
you should know,i went to guyana for a visit and those ppp crime family steal it.i make a report to rohee and he say that he cannot do anything,he bussy writing books

So he will be making lots of dough from his writings.

who in this world will read or buy rohee books

10/27/111:57 PM

Billy Ram BalgobinBilly

The electorate in Guyana still have a deep fear of a return to a Burnham-style authoritarian gov't should the PPP/Civic get voted out of office. The terror of the sixties and the three decades of severe political repression that followed still lingers in the mind of the Guyanese citizenry. The violent attacks on Indo-Guyanese supporters in the in the 1990s culiminating with two bloody ethnic massacres at Lusignan and Bartica only serve to galvanized a fear of terror coming the bayonette of the PNC heartless thugs.
What does all of this have to do with people's psychology when it comes to voting at the next general elections scheduled for November 28, 2011? Before we answer this question we must allow ourselves to see things for exactly what they are and then we can come to a logical conclusion how the average man thinks and how he would cast his vote. Currently, they are over a dozen political parties getting ready for the polls. The governing PPP is no doubt the biggest political party followed by their arch-rival the PNC aka APNU. The AFC, a breakaway faction of the APNU is perhaps the strongest of the mini-parties.

Politics in Guyana has changed in many ways and remained the same in other ways. We can make a long list of things that have changed for the good of Guyana and we can also make of a list things that have not changed since the PNC gov't was forced to hold free elections by the Carter Center and booted out by the popular will of the people in 1992. What has not changed that will influence the voters' decision at poll is what has kept little parties like the AFC and the WPA from growing and beoming a formidable force. It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased. It is because the PNC has retained its violent core of supporters who are hell-bent on reversing the nation politically and economically to what it was under the notorios LFS gov't. It this fear that is preventing the average voter from venturing out too far.

The AFC will not make a great strides so long as this threat remains.

10/27/111:59 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by warrior:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by warrior:
quote:
Originally posted by raymond:
good luck bro...wish I was there!
me too my heart and soul will be with them

What heart? You don't have one..
you should know,i went to guyana for a visit and those ppp crime family steal it.i make a report to rohee and he say that he cannot do anything,he bussy writing books

So he will be making lots of dough from his writings.
who in this world will read or buy rohee books

You will be surprised.

10/27/112:06 PM

warrior (Guest)

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
The electorate in Guyana still have a deep fear of a return to a Burnham-style authoritarian gov't should the PPP/Civic get voted out of office. The terror of the sixties and the three decades of severe political repression that followed still lingers in the mind of the Guyanese citizenry. The violent attacks on Indo-Guyanese supporters in the in the 1990s culiminating with two bloody ethnic massacres at Lusignan and Bartica only serve to galvanized a fear of terror coming the bayonette of the PNC heartless thugs.
What does all of this have to do with people's psychology when it comes to voting at the next general elections scheduled for November 28, 2011? Before we answer this question we must allow ourselves to see things for exactly what they are and then we can come to a logical conclusion how the average man thinks and how he would cast his vote. Currently, they are over a dozen political parties getting ready for the polls. The governing PPP is no doubt the biggest political party followed by their arch-rival the PNC aka APNU. The AFC, a breakaway faction of the APNU is perhaps the strongest of the mini-parties.

Politics in Guyana has changed in many ways and remained the same in other ways. We can make a long list of things that have changed for the good of Guyana and we can also make of a list things that have not changed since the PNC gov't was forced to hold free elections by the Carter Center and booted out by the popular will of the people in 1992. What has not changed that will influence the voters' decision at poll is what has kept little parties like the AFC and the WPA from growing and beoming a formidable force. It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased. It is because the PNC has retained its violent core of supporters who are hell-bent on reversing the nation politically and economically to what it was under the notorios LFS gov't. It this fear that is preventing the average voter from venturing out too far.

The AFC will not make a great strides so long as this threat remains.

mr billy ram goat, the ppp have the two people that use to lead the people that beat indians,let me name them for you one name joe big stick,the other is break down the gate bynoe.what will the ppp do with them

10/27/112:11 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
The electorate in Guyana still have a deep fear of a return to a Burnham-style authoritarian gov't should the PPP/Civic get voted out of office. The terror of the sixties and the three decades of severe political repression that followed still lingers in the mind of the Guyanese citizenry. The violent attacks on Indo-Guyanese supporters in the in the 1990s culiminating with two bloody ethnic massacres at Lusignan and Bartica only serve to galvanized a fear of terror coming the bayonette of the PNC heartless thugs.
What does all of this have to do with people's psychology when it comes to voting at the next general elections scheduled for November 28, 2011? Before we answer this question we must allow ourselves to see things for exactly what they are and then we can come to a logical conclusion how the average man thinks and how he would cast his vote. Currently, they are over a dozen political parties getting ready for the polls. The governing PPP is no doubt the biggest political party followed by their arch-rival the PNC aka APNU. The AFC, a breakaway faction of the APNU is perhaps the strongest of the mini-parties.

Politics in Guyana has changed in many ways and remained the same in other ways. We can make a long list of things that have changed for the good of Guyana and we can also make of a list things that have not changed since the PNC gov't was forced to hold free elections by the Carter Center and booted out by the popular will of the people in 1992. What has not changed that will influence the voters' decision at poll is what has kept little parties like the AFC and the WPA from growing and beoming a formidable force. It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased. It is because the PNC has retained its violent core of supporters who are hell-bent on reversing the nation politically and economically to what it was under the notorios LFS gov't. It this fear that is preventing the average voter from venturing out too far.

The AFC will not make a great strides so long as this threat remains.

you either dumb or blind...some of that violent core (as you put it)...has moved on to the PPP.

Check Bynoe (once charged for treason) and Joe (former HOI)

10/27/112:12 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
The electorate in Guyana still have a deep fear of a return to a Burnham-style authoritarian gov't should the PPP/Civic get voted out of office. The terror of the sixties and the three decades of severe political repression that followed still lingers in the mind of the Guyanese citizenry. The violent attacks on Indo-Guyanese supporters in the in the 1990s culiminating with two bloody ethnic massacres at Lusignan and Bartica only serve to galvanized a fear of terror coming the bayonette of the PNC heartless thugs.
What does all of this have to do with people's psychology when it comes to voting at the next general elections scheduled for November 28, 2011? Before we answer this question we must allow ourselves to see things for exactly what they are and then we can come to a logical conclusion how the average man thinks and how he would cast his vote. Currently, they are over a dozen political parties getting ready for the polls. The governing PPP is no doubt the biggest political party followed by their arch-rival the PNC aka APNU. The AFC, a breakaway faction of the APNU is perhaps the strongest of the mini-parties.

Politics in Guyana has changed in many ways and remained the same in other ways. We can make a long list of things that have changed for the good of Guyana and we can also make of a list things that have not changed since the PNC gov't was forced to hold free elections by the Carter Center and booted out by the popular will of the people in 1992. What has not changed that will influence the voters' decision at poll is what has kept little parties like the AFC and the WPA from growing and beoming a formidable force. It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased. It is because the PNC has retained its violent core of supporters who are hell-bent on reversing the nation politically and economically to what it was under the notorios LFS gov't. It this fear that is preventing the average voter from venturing out too far.

The AFC will not make a great strides so long as this threat remains.

I have to agree with you on the Indian Psyche however, I don't share your view that the AFC is a break away faction of the APNU. The AFC was born before the APNU and is made up of a mix on progressive folks from both the PPP and PNC. However, there is a genuine fear in Guyana of the resurrection of the old PNC guard with all it brings.

Please see a post I did two weeks ago.

http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/78320827051

10/27/112:14 PM

TolaSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
The electorate in Guyana still have a deep fear of a return to a Burnham-style authoritarian gov't should the PPP/Civic get voted out of office. The terror of the sixties and the three decades of severe political repression that followed still lingers in the mind of the Guyanese citizenry. The violent attacks on Indo-Guyanese supporters in the in the 1990s culiminating with two bloody ethnic massacres at Lusignan and Bartica only serve to galvanized a fear of terror coming the bayonette of the PNC heartless thugs.
What does all of this have to do with people's psychology when it comes to voting at the next general elections scheduled for November 28, 2011? Before we answer this question we must allow ourselves to see things for exactly what they are and then we can come to a logical conclusion how the average man thinks and how he would cast his vote. Currently, they are over a dozen political parties getting ready for the polls. The governing PPP is no doubt the biggest political party followed by their arch-rival the PNC aka APNU. The AFC, a breakaway faction of the APNU is perhaps the strongest of the mini-parties.

Politics in Guyana has changed in many ways and remained the same in other ways. We can make a long list of things that have changed for the good of Guyana and we can also make of a list things that have not changed since the PNC gov't was forced to hold free elections by the Carter Center and booted out by the popular will of the people in 1992. What has not changed that will influence the voters' decision at poll is what has kept little parties like the AFC and the WPA from growing and beoming a formidable force. It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased. It is because the PNC has retained its violent core of supporters who are hell-bent on reversing the nation politically and economically to what it was under the notorios LFS gov't. It this fear that is preventing the average voter from venturing out too far.

The AFC will not make a great strides so long as this threat remains.

While the PNC fear might still remain. The PPP have also isolated a large number of 'average' citizens who remain close to or below the poverty line.
There is also a fear of victimization to those who openly speak against the PPP, this was displayed a number of times by regional officers, especially in Berbice.
Much of the 'PNC fear' was transferred to the PPP, when ex-PNC members who were once violent against the PPP, are presently in the heart of the PPP: The Office of the Presdient.

The party that is seen without a track record of wrong-doing and corruption is the AFC. Due to their 'neutral stand' with a clean slate, the AFC is seen as the best option for a long overdue change to Guyana politics.

10/27/112:29 PM

Billy Ram BalgobinBilly

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The party that is seen without a track record of wrong-doing and corruption is the AFC

You cannot have a track record when you've never been on the track.

10/27/112:34 PM

cainTired old hippie

Yet! Soon though.

10/27/112:36 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
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The party that is seen without a track record of wrong-doing and corruption is the AFC

You cannot have a track record when you've never been on the track.

isn't that what the man said? he say that they don't have a track record...

10/27/112:36 PM

MitwahSenior Member

The PPP lost Moses and gained Joe and Bynoe.

Go AFC Go!!! The AFC can win this election. Keep pressing on.

AFC!!!

10/27/112:48 PM

TolaSenior Member

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
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The party that is seen without a track record of wrong-doing and corruption is the AFC

You cannot have a track record when you've never been on the track.

That is the selling feature, when people are frustrated with parties with corrupt track records.
The PPP returned to power in 92 mainly due to Cheddi Jagan. After both Jagans died, Jagdeo brought the party to what it is today, isolating a large number of the polulation due to corruption, etc.
The voters know what the PNC/PPP can deliver and its benefits/consequences , now its time for a change.
History might repeat itself 10-20 years from now and another change might take place.

10/27/112:49 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
The electorate in Guyana still have a deep fear of a return to a Burnham-style authoritarian gov't should the PPP/Civic get voted out of office..

No re write this rant but indicate that the worst of the Burnham regime have now been incorporated within the PPP.

Indeed there are rumors that Fineman had dealings with Roger Khan.

10/27/113:35 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin: It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased . . .

No, it is because dedicated race hegemonists and PPP conmen like you are thoroughly invested in keeping them frightened and ignorant with "Burnham jhumbie" scare tactics.

In the coming weeks, it will take much more than sly battam house appeals to "tradition" to keep the 'tribe' on the PPP plantation. We keeping a watchful eye out for the provocations . . .

@ baseman: like I pointed out on the other thread, it is not enough to acknowledge and commiserate with the existential fears of Indian Guyanese and walk away - giving the 'war' propagandists their victory. As a change agent, it is incumbent upon you to contextualize information and educate those who are being badly misinformed by the PPP about their true condition - and their options . . .

The "Indian psyche" does not 'exist' in a vacuum!!

10/27/114:07 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin: It is not that the electorate are dumb or biased . . .

No, it is because dedicated race hegemonists and PPP conmen like you are thoroughly invested in keeping them frightened and ignorant with "Burnham jhumbie" scare tactics.

In the coming weeks, it will take much more than sly battam house appeals to "tradition" to keep the 'tribe' on the PPP plantation. We keeping a watchful eye out for the provocations . . .

@ baseman: like I pointed out on the other thread, it is not enough to acknowledge and commiserate with the existential fears of Indian Guyanese and walk away - giving the 'war' propagandists their victory. As a change agent, it is incumbent upon you to contextualize information and educate those who are being badly misinformed by the PPP about their true condition - and their options . . .

The "Indian psyche" does not 'exist' in a vacuum!!

I'm not giving anyone victory nor am I suggesting it's correct. I try my best talking to them but they reply, you may be correct, but what if you are wrong, you live in the USA, we live here. One former HS teacher who lives in Guyana recently told me, "if PPP loses (meaning PNC wins) it's mass exodus, not enough planes and boats, Guyana will be a ghost land". Most of these very people admit that the PPP is corrupt, arrogant and that Guyana could do better with a better Govt. The case needs to be made in Guyana by those living there, not members of the diaspora. Alleviating/mitigaing this threat need to be a platform topic of the AFC, not left to non-exec members like me in retail politics. I do not believe the perseverence of this mindset is to do with anything the AFC did not do, it is to do with the lack of a truth and reconciliation committee by the PPP, it is to do with a lack of ownership of these atrocities by the PNC, atrocities which continued until 2006. The AFC is the youngest party and only which has promised an active program at reconciliation. However, there is still alot of unease with the PNC who many believe retains much of their old DNA.

10/27/115:42 PM

Former Member

Base, you make a good point. While GNI is burning up with PPP/AFC chatter APNU is out there working. They could pull off some surprises and the PNC knows how to be corrupt. Maybe the AFC and PPP should start talking.

10/27/115:45 PM

seignetSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
The PPP lost Moses and gained Joe and Bynoe.

Go AFC Go!!! The AFC can win this election. Keep pressing on.

AFC!!!

That was a big mistake.

I can only guess the rhetoric coming from the PPP soon.

I await in great anticipation.

Doan read this as anti-AFC sentiments.

But the AFC has become similar to 1955 PNC - just another anti-PPP grumblers.

U fellas should have stuck with CHANGE (new ppl) and the come lately PNC/PPP ppl should have simply made statements on TV and radio urging the electorate not to vote PPP/APNU.

Now u all goan and screw up a good good thing.

10/27/116:03 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by baseman:
One former HS teacher who lives in Guyana recently told me, "if PPP loses (meaning PNC wins) it's mass exodus, not enough planes and boats, Guyana will be a ghost land". .

Hmmmm. So they will show up to AFC meetings cheer....but end up voting their fears for the PPP.

Yet you still think that neglecting Gtwn, the densest cluster of anti PPP voters, and almost 25% of the voters was a good idea?

10/31/1111:06 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Alexander:
Base, you make a good point. While GNI is burning up with PPP/AFC chatter APNU is out there working. .

As we see the PNC is still to present itself as a party which intelligent people should vote for.

No Granger wasnt responsible for the crowds breaking down the gates and shouyting racial (maybe eeven racist) slogans. But it shows that the rift between the militant part of the grass roots and PNC leadership still exists and Granger seems not to be able to direct their energies more constructively.

Looking at PNC crowds I see two things.

1. Virtually no non blacks.

2. The middle class seems also to be missing.

The PNC is good for 30%. They cant win and idle PPP folks who peddle their racist battam house nonsense are the PNCs best friends. last time you engaged in this and blacks found out many fled back to the PNC at the last minute.

But then the PPP does best with the PNC. Like they say PPP=PNC.

Which is why teh AFC cant confine itself to nonsense like "Gtwn people are following us on the internet whcih is why they dont come to our meetings". They have to work hard to ensure a high turn out on Nov 28th.

10/31/1111:10 PM

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