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Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

This promises to be a great event.  All are invited.

Gerhard, how much money they put in the budget to digitalize and put on a web site the records at the National Archives or have you forgotten about this issue?

Preserving national archives is a low priority due to other more pressing needs of the Guyanese public. It is only a handful of people that are interested in archive material, meanwhile money is needed for the national programs such as improving infrastructure, aiding the elderly and the poor.  

FM

There are “serious limitations” in the 2012 Budget with financial experts yesterday expressing concern that an accurate fiscal picture is not being presented and raising questions including on the whereabouts of $33 billion that was supposed to be transferred to the Consolidated Fund.

 

As the debate on the budget draws to a close and the consideration of the estimates of expenditure to follow, the opposition parties are being urged to use their one-seat majority to ensure that funds held in various accounts are accounted for and brought into the Consolidated Fund before supporting the budget. However, because the parliamentary agenda for the coming days is already set, it is unlikely that this can be done before a vote on the budget.

 

Anand Goolsarran

 

Finance Minister, Dr. Ashni Singh’s 2012 Budget was scrutinized as former Auditor-General Anand Goolsarran and Chartered Accountant and attorney Christopher Ram explained how the national budget is prepared and examined the estimates of expenditure and methods used to split allocations over various agencies and ministries. The AFC-sponsored symposium was held at the Pegasus Hotel and was attended by over four dozen persons including parliamentarians from the AFC and APNU as well as members of civil society.

 

”I think a resolution should be passed, a motion should be passed in the National Assembly that the surpluses for all these entities be brought into the Budget for 2012,” Ram said to cheers as he spoke on a “parallel budget” utilized by government from funds garnered by entities such as government holding company NICIL.

 

Goolsarran said that there is a need to look at “all the money that are floating all over the place and demand that the money be placed into the consolidated fund.” As a pre-condition to passing the budget, move every cent that belongs to the state into the Consolidated Fund, he suggested. “Somebody has to do a clean-up exercise to find where all the monies that belong to the state are, put the money into the Consolidated Fund,” he stressed.

 

APNU’s Chairman, Dr. Rupert Roopnaraine said that they are working on a remedy and have laid motions in the National Assembly that seek to bring funds from various agencies including NICIL into the Consolidated Fund. It would be important to get the motions approved before the consideration of the estimates of expenditure, he said but added that the question is whether there is sufficient space and time to have the motions fast-tracked.

 

Christopher Ram

 

The hours


But AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan said that he doubts that this would be possible. “The hours have been fixed now for us to go straight into budget debates and estimates and I rather think that we might not have arguments on that. We have a certain timeline to finish the debate and the estimates,” he told Stabroek News. But he said that they would be seeking a commitment from the government that this would be done.

 

“When we come to vote on the budget, at the estimates, if we don’t get (that) happening or commitment that that will happen we could very well block the budget,” he said. He said that they were on a collision course “because we are not getting the information that we need from the government and so we might very well block it partially or depending on the commitments that government can give us, we may very well support it.”

 

He said that government would have to ensure that all the monies go into the Consolidated Fund. “They can say well alright, we’re gonna put it down (for) two weeks time. We can wait until the two weeks and then we see and then we start dealing with it. But if they don’t want NICIL monies to go into the Consolidated Fund, if they don’t want lottery money, we will have to take some serious decisions as to whether we block it partiallyâ€Ķ” he said.

 

“We’ll probably have to make some cuts in the things they would like to see happen and we’ll have to indicate to them that look, those cuts can remain permanent unless you do a couple of things. Because in any event their conduct is unconstitutional when they are doing all these things of taking monies away and putting it into a separate parallel budget stream for them called NICIL. That is illegal,” he said.

 

Isolation
In his presentation, Goolsarran questioned whether there is a document to show how the government performed in 2011. “They are looking at the Budget in isolation without looking at the results of the previous year,” he said. There are indicators but “you need audited financial statements available to parliamentarians before they could really consider the budget,” he stressed while adding that the report of the Public Accounts Committee is also needed.

 

Goolsarran pointed to several practices and noted that the budget at the end of the year might not be the same as the original budget because during the course of the year circumstances might warrant an amendment to the budget in the form of a supplementary budget. He also noted that there have been abuses. “The previous government was guilty, the present government is guilty of using the Contingencies Fund in foreseen expenditureâ€Ķit’s an abuse of the use of the Contingencies Fund to meet routine expenditure,” he said.

 

He also pointed out that all appropriations lapse on the 31st of December but the practice here is that the books are opened even after this date and are then backdated to the 31st of December. “That’s wrong. 31st of December is the 31st of December. We should not keep the books open until March, and then take the page from January to March, all the expenditure and backdate to 31st of December,” he said. “That’s wrong, you’re manipulating, you’re distorting the accounts. You do that year in, year out, you’re not getting the true picture.”

 

$33 billion


Goolsarran, who stressed that he is not a member of any political party, also spoke about $33 billion that was supposed to be transferred from a special account held at the Bank of Guyana containing “leftover money” from the various projects. He had examined statements which did not reflect the transaction, he said. “Maybe there is an explanation, I don’t know but looking at the financial statements, it is actually not in the Consolidated Fund,” he said. “I’m not saying, maybe there’s an explanation, I’m not sure if there’s a mistake somewhere,” he added.

 

Meanwhile, Ram in his presentation said that the abuse of the Contingences Fund “is beyond an acceptable level.” He said that the Fiscal Management and Accountability Act contains certain illegalities such as making the Supreme Court a budget agency which ought not to be done under the Constitution.  The Act cries out for amendment and officials are guilty of violations of the Act, he said.

There are serious limitations in the 2012 budget, he said. “We do not have a proper idea of what the budget is,” he said while explaining that certain things are not being made clear.

 

There are vague descriptions and vague spending of funds, he said. Ram singled out several allocations in the budget for scrutiny including that the Guyana Elections Commission has been allocated more money this year than last year which was an election year. He also noted that more money has been allocated for the new Chinese roll on/roll off ferries compared to the previous financial paper and said that the  ferries should be “sent back.”

 

Ram said that based on numbers, the budget is “based on foreign, foreign labourâ€Ķ” He said that there is no tax equity in the budget and the National Insurance Scheme is in “big trouble.” By next year, the pension reserves would have been exhausted and certain actions would have to be taken such as raising contribution rates or raising the retirement age. “It’s going to be a serious problem,” he said. He urged the opposition that if the government cannot explain or provide the necessary explanations, “you take out your scissors and cut.”

FM

OP’s control of Lotto fund circumvents Parliament’s Authority â€“ Former Auditor General Dr. Goolsarran

By Gary Eleazar APRIL 16, 2012 | BY  | FILED UNDER NEWS 

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....E2%80%99s-authority/ 

 
 â€œI am very passionate about the Consolidated Fund because that is where all public monies should sitâ€Ķ.and the Lotto money is public money.”

 

Former Auditor General Dr. Anand Goolsaran has defended his critique of Former Minister of Legal Affairs, Charles Ramson’s pronouncement of Office of the President’s oversight of the proceeds from the Lottery. 

 

Dr. Goolsaran had recently reiterated his position that the 24 per cent proceeds from the Guyana Lottery Fund for which the Government has received several billion dollars should be turned over to the Consolidated Fund where it would be subject to Parliamentary Scrutiny. He says that OP’s action is tantamount to circumventing Parliament’s authority.

 

Goolsarran is on record as saying that Ramson’s advice on lotto monies not being paid into the Consolidated Fund is “very flawed.” He had further said that had he still been Auditor General he would have disagreed with the advice and hoped it would have been reconsidered by Ramson. Ramson had advised current Auditor General Deodat Sharma that there is no legal basis for government’s portion of the Guyana Lottery Company’s revenues to be paid into the Consolidated Fund.


In defence of his pronouncements the former Auditor General told this publication yesterday that, “I have a strong view on itâ€ĶI am very passionate about the Consolidated Funds because that is where all public monies should sit and the lotto money is public money.” Dr. Goolsarran, in responding to those that have chided his position saying that he is no lawyer and as such cannot pronounce on a legal ruling made by a Senior Counsel who was also at the time Attorney General, said that he is knowledgeable on public finances and public administration.

 

Dr. Goolsarran qualifies his pronouncement firstly with his background as Auditor General and adds that this has led him to have a clear understanding of public finances. The former Auditor General also said that he considers himself a ‘quasi lawyer.’ He says that even though he is not a qualified lawyer he has undertaken a significant amount of law studies because, “as Auditor General you have to know the lawâ€Ķ.I may not be a qualified lawyer but as Auditor General you have to know the Law.”

 

Former Auditor General, Dr. Anand Goolsarran speaks with a KN reporter

 

He explained that as Auditor General he had to be aware of public finances and the principles that govern public financing. Dr. Goolsarran also said that Ramson had referred to an outdated law when he pronounced that OP was within its jurisdiction to oversee the management of the lotto funds. He said that Ramson was speaking about legislation from the 1960’s when Guyana had a National Lottery Control Committee.


Dr. Goolsarran explained that one major difference is the fact that during the 1960’s, the government of the day had managed the Lottery as against present day circumstances where the lottery only pays government proceeds. He said that at that time it was the government that had to make the pay-out so it would have made sense at the time to have the fund administered exclusively by Office of the President. â€œYou have a different scenario now where the government is not involvedâ€Ķit is a private arrangement.” He said that the 24 per cent which is paid over to the government is akin to a ‘license-fee’.


Dr. Goolsarran reiterated that the gravest implication of having the monies controlled by Office of the President is the lack of Parliamentary oversight. â€œParliament is not approving of this expenditure,” said Dr. Goolsarran as he drew reference to lotto funds and reiterated, “all public expenditure has to be sanctioned by Parliament.”


Dr. Goolsarran served as Guyana’s Auditor general from 1990 to 2005 before migrating overseas and has since returned home.

FM

Ramjattan warns of plan to buy MPs

Be on your toes.  This is the message from AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan to opposition parliamentarians as a vote on the budget nears and as they plan to bring amendments to certain legislation in the future.

 

“We also have to be on our toes because we know, and I want to make this quite clear, we know of a strategy whereby government is now trying to buy two or three parliamentarians on the opposition side to just cut that thing: let us fall sick on a very important day for voting,” he told an AFC-sponsored symposium on the 2012 budget yesterday at the Pegasus Hotel. “And it could very well be that on a certain day for voting you may find two or three opposition parliamentarians not being there and so the 33/32 goes to 31/32 so we have to be on our toes all the time. It is that clear,” he said.

 

Khemraj Ramjattan

 

Ramjattan was at the time responding to a suggestion that the combined opposition who hold a one-seat majority in the National Assembly withhold their support for the budget until certain conditions are met. He pointed out that they have to work jointly with the main opposition, APNU. The budget debate is expected to end this week following which will be the consideration of the estimates of expenditures. Members of the opposition say they will demand certain concessions from the government and could withhold support if these are not forthcoming.

 

Womb


Meanwhile, former PPP Executive and now AFC parliamentarian, Moses Nagamootoo condemned the financial abuses being committed by the government. He said that he came from the “womb” of the PPP and expressed disappointment at what is happening and said that his anger and frustration is compounded by knowing that he was a “part of that gang.” â€œPeople now are understanding the kind of manipulation and `mammaguying’ that is taking place with their money and so I think this forum is very, very useful,” he said.

 

However, he pointed out that he would not want the opposition to use their majority for a “palace coup” because it is hard to sustain. He noted that the government could be ousted and a new election could be called but one has to be very careful given the multi-racial society of Guyana and what results can be produced from going back to the polls. He said that if they used the information that was shared at the forum, many more persons would understand the type of fiscal abuse that has been committed by government over the years.

FM
Originally Posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

I haven't forgotten.  I will still get on it.

Gerhard, this will be a great act on your part if it is accomplished. You can request that a part of the Guysuco bailout funds be reallocated for this project.

 

Seriously, this is of great historic importance. The AFC can easily put some heat on the government on this matter by submitting a motion in parliament requesting this archive.

 

In the end, you will get a lot a political points for doing so. Good Luck.

FM
Originally Posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

I haven't forgotten.  I will still get on it.

This work I can be a task for the University of Guynaa IT department. I should be part of some national historical preservation society.

 

These records could be a part of as  private self funded entity but the government seems reluctant to allow private entities. Meanwhile, the activism should be home grown out of a need to preserve a national treasure.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:

This promises to be a great event.  All are invited.

Gerhard, how much money they put in the budget to digitalize and put on a web site the records at the National Archives or have you forgotten about this issue?

Preserving national archives is a low priority due to other more pressing needs of the Guyanese public. It is only a handful of people that are interested in archive material, meanwhile money is needed for the national programs such as improving infrastructure, aiding the elderly and the poor.  

Lining PPP and their Kinfolks pockets seems to be of a high priority these days.

FM

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