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New Speaker not bothered by PPP/C non-support - AFC said was a “hard fight” to get APNU backing

January 19, 2012 | By KNews | Filed Under News
Source - Kaieteur News

The new Speaker of the National Assembly, Raphael Trotman, yesterday said that he is not bothered about the negative rhetoric being peddled by the governing party regarding his elevation to the position.

“The proof of the pudding will be in the eating,” said Trotman, who leads the seven-seat opposition Alliance for Change (AFC), told reporters yesterday as he looks to carry out his Parliamentary mandate impartially.

The ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) which lost its 19-year control of the National Assembly in the elections of November 28, is upset that the two opposition parties combined their majority in the House to vote in Trotman as Speaker.

Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.

In this case, he said that the PPP/C stuck doggedly to its nomination of Ralph Ramkarran to be Speaker and was unwilling to budge. Ramjattan said rigid position of the PPP/C did not allow room for negotiations at the tripartite level.

The AFC and APNU are being accused of opting out of talks at the tripartite level to wrestle away the Speaker position from the PPP/C.

With the PPP/C not budging from its position, Ramjattan said the AFC decided to seek the support of the APNU for its nominees, namely Trotman and former PPP strongman Moses Nagamootoo.

Trotman has initially stepped out of the race to allow for full support for Nagamootoo. However, the APNU stuck to its guns in not supporting Nagamotoo. As a result, to break the deadlock, Trotman stepped back in, and after a “hard fight” APNU agreed to throw their votes behind him.

“APNU doesn’t give anything on a platter,” Ramjattan declared, as he sought to fend off suggestions that getting APNU to support Trotman was easy.

However, the AFC has thanked APNU, especially its Chairman, Brigadier (ret.) David Granger for their support in Parliament last Thursday, “that resulted in this unique and historic event which ushered in the youngest Speaker in the history of Guyana’s National Assembly.”

Reading from a prepared statement, the AFC’s Clayton Hall said the PPP/C government must accept that it does not have a monopoly on power any longer and that the power of the people would have to be recognized and accepted.

The AFC said that it is prepared to work with both APNU and the PPP/C to facilitate a Parliamentary agenda that serves the national interest and which brings direct and equal benefits for all Guyanese.

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... the APNU stuck to its guns in not supporting Nagamotoo.


January 19, 2012 | By KNews | Filed Under News
Source - Kaieteur News


Moses Nagamootoo's support == 7 votes -- AFC.

Non support -- 32 + 26 = 58 votes.

PPP/C ====== 32 votes
PNC/APNU === 26 votes
FM
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.
FM
I am a supporter of Trotman - he will do well.

No kidding myself, the APNU supported his selection only because he has Afro in his make up. That is the modus operandi of the any Black lead Party in Guyana. Promoting their own race.

As a Guyanese I am thankful for that little graciousness of the Blacks. With it, we shall strive for a better society.
S
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.


Ram Karan was a puppet under Jagdeo. Ram Karan should retire from politics.
S
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Originally posted by seignet:
I am a supporter of Trotman - he will do well.

No kidding myself, the APNU supported his selection only because he has Afro in his make up. That is the modus operandi of the any Black lead Party in Guyana. Promoting their own race.

As a Guyanese I am thankful for that little graciousness of the Blacks. With it, we shall strive for a better society.


Big Grin You think so?
FM
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.


Ram Karan was a puppet under Jagdeo. Ram Karan should retire from politics.


Isn't Trotman a puppet of the PNC, the same PNC he left
FM
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Originally posted by marlon:
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.


Ram Karan was a puppet under Jagdeo. Ram Karan should retire from politics.


Isn't Trotman a puppet of the PNC, the same PNC he left
i think he is AFC,i might be wrong,you ppp guys know every thing
FM
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“APNU doesn’t give anything on a platter,” Ramjattan declared, as he sought to fend off suggestions that getting APNU to support Trotman was easy.


.. and the AFC will ALWAYS now be held in tight control by the PNC/APNU. Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by marlon:
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.


Ram Karan was a puppet under Jagdeo. Ram Karan should retire from politics.


Isn't Trotman a puppet of the PNC, the same PNC he left



Your stupidity is astounding.


Can you not make sense of this: "Trotman has initially stepped out of the race to allow for full support for Nagamootoo. However, the APNU stuck to its guns in not supporting Nagamotoo. As a result, to break the deadlock, Trotman stepped back in, and after a “hard fight” APNU agreed to throw their votes behind him."

Your singular obtuseness is mind-boggling!
Kari
Imagine Trotty had a BAD fallout with the PNC but according to you, he was welcome back. They rather their ENEMY than an Indian Moses, RIGHT???
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Originally posted by Kari:
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Originally posted by marlon:
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.


Ram Karan was a puppet under Jagdeo. Ram Karan should retire from politics.


Isn't Trotman a puppet of the PNC, the same PNC he left



Your stupidity is astounding.


Can you not make sense of this: "Trotman has initially stepped out of the race to allow for full support for Nagamootoo. However, the APNU stuck to its guns in not supporting Nagamotoo. As a result, to break the deadlock, Trotman stepped back in, and after a “hard fight” APNU agreed to throw their votes behind him."

Your singular obtuseness is mind-boggling!
Nehru
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Originally posted by Nehru:

Imagine Trotty had a BAD fallout with the PNC but according to you, he was welcome back.

They rather their ENEMY than an Indian Moses, RIGHT???


The acute "differences" for the departure are reconciled, hence their now outward togetherness. Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Imagine Trotty had a BAD fallout with the PNC but according to you, he was welcome back. They rather their ENEMY than an Indian Moses, RIGHT???
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Originally posted by Kari:
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Originally posted by marlon:
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Those two parties – the Alliance for Change (which Trotman currently leads) and the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – are being accused of breaching what the PPP/C called the “convention” of Westminster Parliamentary democracies in which a nominee of the party with the single majority in the House gets the Speaker’s position.

But Chairman of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan, said that the only convention that exists is that the majority of votes decides the Speaker. He suggested that the only case in which a minority party gets the position of Speaker is when a party in opposition decides to support the government’s candidate.


The recognised procedures when no party has the majority of votes, are:

1. The minority party with the most votes that forms the government selects the Speaker.

2. When minority parties combine to form the government, that coalition selects the Speaker.


Ram Karan was a puppet under Jagdeo. Ram Karan should retire from politics.


Isn't Trotman a puppet of the PNC, the same PNC he left



Your stupidity is astounding.


Can you not make sense of this: "Trotman has initially stepped out of the race to allow for full support for Nagamootoo. However, the APNU stuck to its guns in not supporting Nagamotoo. As a result, to break the deadlock, Trotman stepped back in, and after a “hard fight” APNU agreed to throw their votes behind him."

Your singular obtuseness is mind-boggling!
they have a right to their opinion,the most inportant thing is the AFC get the speaker of the house,which mean they agree on the agenda.the people of guyana win
FM
Trotman has initially stepped out of the race to allow for full support for Nagamootoo. "However, the APNU stuck to its guns in not supporting Nagamotoo. As a result, to break the deadlock, Trotman stepped back in, and after a “hard fight” APNU agreed to throw their votes behind him.

“APNU doesn’t give anything on a platter,” Ramjattan declared, as he sought to fend off suggestions that getting APNU to support Trotman was easy."

Ramjattan is right whe he said APNU gave away nothing. He is also right when he said that he gave away everything, including putting Nagamootoo's head on the chopping block and giving Granger and Trotman the clever to chop his stupid ass.

Being a non partisan person, I beleive Ramjattan when he said that the PPP would not support Nagamootoo. That is how the PPP have historically behaved towards Indians they don't like. However, Ramjattan and Trotman turned his back on Nagamootoo also.
FM
the guyanese indian people is not stupid anymore,i think you ppp crime family learn that in the last election,come on man think about a new line or ramottar will have to fire some of you people
FM

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