Me thinks this is the death of the ' House filled Pack of Commies, Wannabes and Racists'.The oposition and the Govt. will fight over everything. Leh meh sit back and watch deh action.

If gmoney and his cabal don't cooperate with the PNC then the PPP will get the speaker job.
I waiting to see if they pass legislation for plywood computers and ethanol. ahahha

THe Speaker and Deputy speaker must come from the opposition and should be done by secret ballot. Ramkarran can't even speak up for himself. He needs to be sent to the pasture.

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
The AFC is bemused at the PPP's antics regarding the appointment of Speaker. They have to understand that the electorate has spoken and none of the parties should treat their mandates lightly, or believe that it can be bargained with, or compromised. The PPP has to also understand that there is a new Order and that there has been a change. They have to get used to the fact that they don't control everything any longer.

The argument that they are entitled to the speaker's chair based on Commonwealth precedent is a very disingenious argument when one considers that we are operating in a hybrid of the Westminster system where we have an executive president. Under the doctrine of separation of powers it is a nonsense for the PPP to want to control both the executive and the legislature when they only won the executive.

The opposition would be guilty of the greatest abdication of responsibility and betrayal of the people's trust if we gave up the Chairmanship of the Assembly's affairs to the PPP. The opposition parties formally indicated a willingness to work with the PPP government in a national-unity construct and that proposal was rebuffed. It is their insincerity that we're dealing with now. Ralph Ramkarran was a good speaker but the Order has changed and he would be out of place in the present situation.

The AFC has no weight. They should put their votes in Parliament where their mouths are.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

quote:

Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
The AFC is bemused at the PPP's antics regarding the appointment of Speaker. They have to understand that the electorate has spoken and none of the parties should treat their mandates lightly, or believe that it can be bargained with, or compromised. The PPP has to also understand that there is a new Order and that there has been a change. They have to get used to the fact that they don't control everything any longer.

The argument that they are entitled to the speaker's chair based on Commonwealth precedent is a very disingenious argument when one considers that we are operating in a hybrid of the Westminster system where we have an executive president. Under the doctrine of separation of powers it is a nonsense for the PPP to want to control both the executive and the legislature when they only won the executive.

The opposition would be guilty of the greatest abdication of responsibility and betrayal of the people's trust if we gave up the Chairmanship of the Assembly's affairs to the PPP. The opposition parties formally indicated a willingness to work with the PPP government in a national-unity construct and that proposal was rebuffed. It is their insincerity that we're dealing with now. Ralph Ramkarran was a good speaker but the Order has changed and he would be out of place in the present situation.

The AFC has no weight. They should put their votes in Parliament where their mouths are.

What a funny drunky!!!

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Originally posted by randolph:
Me thinks this is the death of the ' House filled Pack of Commies, Wannabes and Racists'.The oposition and the Govt. will fight over everything. Leh meh sit back and watch deh action.

another election will end all dis kiss me ass antics waa yu ah see hey rass

This is outright ridiculous. The opposition parties are trying to run the country or be the government. They must realize that they were not elected. PPP/C got the most votes or seats in the house. It is not AFC or APNU. I guarantee you, with the next elections this situation will change. Guyanese are realizing that a vote for the AFC was indeed a vote for APNU who is simply hiding under false pretence. PNC will never change. Let’s not forget what Indo-Guyanese suffered during their illegal years in office. Today PNC supporters got the gall to scream racism and marginalization.

Like years in power and widespread use of corruption has caused the PPP to believe they are the constitution .
For these dumb heads power is everything, never mind the will of the people or parliamentary rules. The fact of the matter is that the ruling party does not have the automatic right to install a speaker. It is for parliament to decide. And since the current parliament is not controlled by the ruling party, the PPP government should shut up and give way to what the majority in parliament has decided to do about the speaker.

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Originally posted by westdem:
This is outright ridiculous. The opposition parties are trying to run the country or be the government. They must realize that they were not elected.

You either just come from a different planet, or haven't looked at the election results. Parliament is not the government, and neither does parliament run the country. Parliament is there for check and balances and to protect the people from harsh and unreasonable government actions. Each and every member of parliament has been elected. So your statement to the contrary has is a sign of how out of touch you are with reality after nearly 20 years of dictatorial rule.

In retrospect,a vote for AFC turned out to be a vote for APNU. What a shame.

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Originally posted by westdem:
This is outright ridiculous.
AFC still forging ahead with charges against a westdem minista.

The opposition parties are trying to run the country or be the government.
AFC will be ok like Irfan.....if them coverup the Fraud with the House Lots.


They must realize that they were not elected.
Irfan feel PPP give them the 7 seats.....so they must keep quiet.



PPP/C got the most votes or seats in the house. It is not AFC or APNU.
Westdem cant understand up to now the PPP lost the Majority in Parliarment......and eee dont understand what that means when an opposition is the Majority in Parliarment.


I guarantee you, with the next elections this situation will change.
If U guaranteeing ......have de PPP Minority Govt Resign and tell Ramotar fuh call new elections


Guyanese are realizing that a vote for the AFC was indeed a vote for APNU who is simply hiding under false pretence.
Guyanese know AFC is not part of ANY PPP CORRUPTION.


PNC will never change.
Nonsense....Bharat tek over all dem Thugs, Killers,Lil-Bu@@er-Boys, Big-Bu@@er-Boys, Child-Molesters & Rapist from the PNC.

Let’s not forget what Indo-Guyanese suffered during their illegal years in office.
and Jagdeo & Ramotar bring these Parasites, Pimps & Prostitutes in Freedm House as soon as Jagan eyes close.

Today PNC supporters got the gall to scream racism and marginalization.
and de Guyanese understand......because de PNC showing everyone all them bad thugs, killers and rapist wuking fuh Jagdeo & Ramotar TODAY......with Irfan.

The electorate has spoken and has given the PPP the presidency with Veto powers and a right to negotiate. All the Members of the AFC are nimkumpoops so they would not bee dealing with the AFC. A party with seven seats will be shoveled under the table. The PPP has decided to open dialogues with the WPA to facilitate the passing of bills and in return the WPA members get to table their own bills on Wednesdays.. And you can take that to the bank.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The electorate has spoken and has given the PPP the presidency with Veto powers and a right to negotiate. All the Members of the AFC are nimkumpoops so they would not ne dealing with the AFC. A party with seven seats will be shovels under the table. The PPP has decided to open dialogues with the WPA to facilitate the passing oif bills and in return the WPA members get to table their own bills ion Wednesdays.. And you can take that to the bank.

Two drunk man teking a pi$$ pun de avenue... but they forget to open de fly on them pants.
Knee-ru ask... "Whais de latest Pardna"
Ram-mu reply.... "Dont disturb me when ah peeing...it real cold....meh foot damp"
Knee-ru seh.... "leh meh geh yuh wan hug"


Can yu imagine 2 Drunk peeing and hugging at the same time.

Well ah sure yuh care wha rass dem have to seh.

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Originally posted by Jalil:

quote:

Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The electorate has spoken and has given the PPP the presidency with Veto powers and a right to negotiate. All the Members of the AFC are nimkumpoops so they would not ne dealing with the AFC. A party with seven seats will be shovels under the table. The PPP has decided to open dialogues with the WPA to facilitate the passing oif bills and in return the WPA members get to table their own bills ion Wednesdays.. And you can take that to the bank.

Two drunk man teking a pi$$ but they forget to open de fly on them pants.
Knee-ru ask..."Whais de latest Pardna"
Ram-mu reply...."Dont disturb me when ah peeing...it real cold....meh foot damp"
Knee-ru seh...."leh meh geh yuh wan hug"
Can yu imagine 2 Drunk peeing and hugging at the same time.
Well ah sure yuh care wha rass dem have to seh.

That's what you will get for Christmas.. Stale pee.. You are a lowlife scumbag that is you became a christian.

Fill yuh cup with some 15 year ole pee bhai

Goood.....Cheers fu de PeePeePee and WPeeeA partnership
Bottoms up

Dem boys seh…Dem pickney see Santa drunk
December 24, 2011 | By KNews | Filed Under Dem Boys Seh, Features / Columnists, News




Christmas is a time when dem got Santa all over de place. Guyana Stores had one. Fogarty’s had one and he run away. He claim how dem li’l pickney disgusting. One juck he eye. And one pee pun he. He rip off he clothes and lef de wuk.
Guyana Stores had one too. He lef to guh to lunch and come back drunk. He had a whole heap of children sit down waiting pun he. When he walk up to de chair he guh to sit down, and fall down.
One li’l boy see, “Mommy, like Santa drunk?” De mother tell he: “No baby, Santa tired”. Guyana Stores had to chase he. Dem boys seh that people shock when dem see Santa cussing going through de door and when a car nearly knock he down pun de road.
That is how Rob Bert get de wuk. De Donald send he to Guyana Stores. Donald know that he love to be in de limelight and being Santa is de only publicity he gun get. De man had de nerve to send out press release that he wukking at Guyana Stores and how he want a photo opportunity. Not even GINA or he own TV station respond.
Dem have a Santa Complex. That is wheh de Big Rat playing Santa. He got a sack but instead of sharing gifts he collecting. Dem boys plan fuh give he and de Bobby something special. Dem jail man like gift like that. And is Christmas in jail too.
Henry de Yellow decide that he gun spend Christmas in de Eve Leary compound. He never live in de police house when all dem Top Cop use to live but since he hear bout investigation he want to deh close to de head office. He playing Santa too because at this time of de year is nuff gift does go deh. He want collect, too.

quote:

Originally posted by Dhall:
In retrospect,a vote for AFC turned out to be a vote for APNU. What a shame.

All the AFC did was take away the majority from the PPP thereby neutralizing the opportunity for unchecked corruption. Thankfully they did not enf up giving the majority to the PNC which would have opened the door for possible PNC style corruption which is horrible since their record is corruption coupled with gross lack of progressive governance. At the very least, the PPP brought Guyana back from the dead.

But don't for a moment minimize the power of the AFC. They more than the other two major parties have the balance of power in their hands and I suspect they will use it wisely. The election for Speaker should be a vote by each member of Parliament with the complete absence of any strong hand tactics.

quote:

Originally posted by ksazma:

quote:

Originally posted by Dhall:
In retrospect,a vote for AFC turned out to be a vote for APNU. What a shame.

All the AFC did was take away the majority from the PPP thereby neutralizing the opportunity for unchecked corruption. Thankfully they did not enf up giving the majority to the PNC which would have opened the door for possible PNC style corruption which is horrible since their record is corruption coupled with gross lack of progressive governance. At the very least, the PPP brought Guyana back from the dead.

But don't for a moment minimize the power of the AFC. They more than the other two major parties have the balance of power in their hands and I suspect they will use it wisely. The election for Speaker should be a vote by each member of Parliament with the complete absence of any strong hand tactics.

Should an MP vote independently, he/she risks losing his/her seat by Recall.

quote:

Originally posted by Spice Girl:

quote:

Originally posted by ksazma:

quote:

Originally posted by Dhall:
In retrospect,a vote for AFC turned out to be a vote for APNU. What a shame.

All the AFC did was take away the majority from the PPP thereby neutralizing the opportunity for unchecked corruption. Thankfully they

did not enf up giving the majority to the PNC which would have opened the door for possible PNC style corruption which is horrible since their record is corruption coupled with gross lack of progressive governance. At the very least, the PPP brought Guyana back from the dead.

But don't for a moment minimize the power of the AFC. They more than the other two major parties have the balance of power in their hands and I suspect they will use it wisely. The election for Speaker should be a vote by each member of Parliament with the complete absence of any strong hand tactics.

Should an MP vote independently, he/she risks losing his/her seat by Recall.

Recall can only be done if the MP crosses the floor or sits in as an independent...
The amendment was made when Trotman left the PNC and Ramjattan left the PPP.

The constitution guarantees an MP the right to vote his way.

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Originally posted by westdem:
PPP/C got the most votes or seats in the house. .

Whine, wail and rant. Most of the votes were against the PPP. They have no mandate.

PPP= Guyanese do NOT like the PPP anymore. Only 35% of the registered voters supported the PPP.

quote:

Originally posted by caribj:

quote:

Originally posted by westdem:
PPP/C got the most votes or seats in the house. .

Whine, wail and rant. Most of the votes were against the PPP. They have no mandate.

PPP= Guyanese do NOT like the PPP anymore. Only 35% of the registered voters supported the PPP.

The end result gave the PPP 48.6 % of the votes cast. Those who didn't vote has no say.. The PPP received 32 seats one less a majority and that gave them the presidency. You are a moron to think that they cannot rule. The PNC lost the election. The AFC was a no show.
It doesn't matter how many votes they have, they won the election. There was no conbined opposition before the election and there cannot be a combine opposition after the election.

Ramoutar has appointed an all PPP cabinet.

he appointing people to commissions and committee without consulting the opposition.

APNU has no mandate. Forty percent seems a minority to me. If you think thast 41 % is greater than 48.6 then you are ignorant and stupid...

quote:

Originally posted by BGurd_See:
If gmoney and his cabal don't cooperate with the PNC then the PPP will get the speaker job.
I waiting to see if they pass legislation for plywood computers and ethanol. ahahha

The PPP for their own ends ought to support the AFc choice. It brings the best payoff since they will not have to deal with the PNC initially on all legislation.

Unfortunately they have no game theorist from among their cadre and will play the old venom and strategy to deny the AFC the post hoping it will payoff for them at the polls when new elections are called. That they will prefer to cripple themselves to cause injury to the AFC potentially speaks to how trivial that Party is at the moment. Their telos is not people driven but party driven. Were they about the best ends for our people they would take the AFC proposals to change the system where race is never integral to the equation of power.

Unfortunately, for them, their lack of foresight on the speaker post will be one where every action in parliament that is passed counter their initiative will mean another nail in their electoral coffin. The AFC has no option but to support their candidate. The choice of the PPP and the AFC is to put aside their need for power and accept what the people has done; demand consensus by giving us a hung parliament. Neither of them should get their way without seeking consensus.

The APNU will not allow the AFC to come into the PPP's mold, or at least they shouldn't,so they would no choice than to make a deal with the PPP?C..

In my opinion, a PPP's support for AFC will look like they are ganging up against the PNC/R.
Cheddi wouldn't have liked that so I think that Ramoutar wouldn't do it.

quote:

Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The APNU will not allow the AFC to come into the PPP's mold, or at least they shouldn't,so they would no choice than to make a deal with the PPP?C..

In my opinion, a PPP's support for AFC will look like they are ganging up against the PNC/R.
Cheddi wouldn't have liked that so I think that Ramoutar wouldn't do it.

The AFC supporting the PPP makes it appear like the AFC is full of crooks.

The AFC ran on a platform of PPP corruption and jailing the PPP cronies. How could they switch midstream. The people who voted AFC voted to take the PPP behind the barn and give them a good cut-ass.

Who are the possible candidates being submitted for Speaker of the House by APNU?

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Originally posted by Apollo:
Who are the possible candidates being submitted for Speaker of the House by APNU?

Deborah Backer. She is their only candidate and is well qualified to kick these men's asses in parliament.

Nuff et al,

More can be achieve from the "inside" than "Jumping Up and Down from the Outside"

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Originally posted by Nuff:

quote:

Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The APNU will not allow the AFC to come into the PPP's mold, or at least they shouldn't,so they would no choice than to make a deal with the PPP?C..

In my opinion, a PPP's support for AFC will look like they are ganging up against the PNC/R.
Cheddi wouldn't have liked that so I think that Ramoutar wouldn't do it.

The AFC supporting the PPP makes it appear like the AFC is full of crooks.

The AFC ran on a platform of PPP corruption and jailing the PPP cronies. How could they switch midstream. The people who voted AFC voted to take the PPP behind the barn and give them a good cut-ass.

Maybe I am partial ... but I can't see anyone but the opposition getting the title speaker of parliament ... and of the two candidates put forward by the opposition Moses and Deborah ... I think Deborah is highly qualified for the task.

To me the writing is on the wall. Moses has already had his name submitted by the AFC as a MP ... Deborah who was an APNU MP during the last session of parliament is not on the APNU list of MPs for this session. This to me means Deborah got the nod to become speaker. There is no bickering between the AFC and APNU.

Common deduction leads me to concur that Deborah got the job.

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Originally posted by Vish M:
Nuff et al,

More can be achieve from the "inside" than "Jumping Up and Down from the Outside"

quote:

Originally posted by Nuff:

quote:

Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The APNU will not allow the AFC to come into the PPP's mold, or at least they shouldn't,so they would no choice than to make a deal with the PPP?C..

In my opinion, a PPP's support for AFC will look like they are ganging up against the PNC/R.
Cheddi wouldn't have liked that so I think that Ramoutar wouldn't do it.

The AFC supporting the PPP makes it appear like the AFC is full of crooks.

The AFC ran on a platform of PPP corruption and jailing the PPP cronies. How could they switch midstream. The people who voted AFC voted to take the PPP behind the barn and give them a good cut-ass.

Being inside the PPP is toxic. It is a corrupt and corrupting organization as it stands. It can only be detoxified from deconstructing its means to self perpetuation on the principles it presently embraces.

quote:

Originally posted by Nuff:

quote:

Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The APNU will not allow the AFC to come into the PPP's mold, or at least they shouldn't,so they would no choice than to make a deal with the PPP?C..

In my opinion, a PPP's support for AFC will look like they are ganging up against the PNC/R.
Cheddi wouldn't have liked that so I think that Ramoutar wouldn't do it.

The AFC supporting the PPP makes it appear like the AFC is full of crooks.

The AFC ran on a platform of PPP corruption and jailing the PPP cronies. How could they switch midstream. The people who voted AFC voted to take the PPP behind the barn and give them a good cut-ass.

I am glad you shared my opinion..