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AFC was consulted … on BK’s appointment-Harmon

Minister of State Joe Harmon

Minister of State Joe Harmon

MINISTER of State Joseph Harmon did not make the decision all by himself to appoint businessman Brian Tiwarie as a ministerial advisor to Government but through consultation with the Alliance For Change (AFC) and the People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR). According to Mr Harmon in a statement, after the General and Regional Elections of 2015, many persons, who indicated their deep interest in assisting the Government and fulfilling its campaign promises, were appointed to various positions.

Businessman Brian Tiwarie

Businessman Brian Tiwarie

He noted that some of those persons were not interested in formal employment or receiving remuneration, but were willing to contribute.

“After some consultation, during which the Minister of Public Security (Khemraj Ramjattan) and the Minister of Natural Resources (Raphael Trotman) gave advice, it was agreed that such persons should be appointed as Honorary Ministerial Advisors and that a certificate entitled ‘Instrument of Appointment… Ministerial Adviser’ would be issued.
Both Ramjattan and Trotman are founding members of the AFC. Several senior members of that party in the coalition had also said they were unaware of Tiwarie’s appointment.

However, Harmon in his statement added: “Over the period October 6, 2015 to February 8, 2016, 34 persons were identified on the recommendation of the Leader of the Alliance For Change (AFC), the General Secretary of the Peoples National Congress (PNC) and the General Secretary of A Partnership For National Unity (APNU) and the instruments were accordingly issued. Some of these appointments, particularly in the diaspora, received wide publicity. Mr Brian Tiwarie, upon the recommendation of the General Secretary of the APNU, was one such person identified and issued with an instrument,” Mr Harmon explained.

At a recent retreat to review the party’s performance, the AFC, a key ally in the coalition Government, contended that the current difficulties which the Government has encountered in the continuing revelations arising out of the appointment of Mr Tiwarie and related issues have their roots in the concentration of the powers of the office of the Cabinet Secretary, the Minister of State in the Ministry of the Presidency, and the effective Head of the Presidential Secretariat in a single person.

But President David Granger has since defended the responsibilities of Mr Harmon, pointing out that the AFC did not object to it at the consultation in which that and other decisions were made.

Subsequently to the appointment of Tiwarie, the Minister of State was advised by President David Granger, who was not aware of all the appointees that he (Granger) was not in agreement with the appointment.

APNU+AFC coalition supporters on learning of the appointment criticised the administration, with many contending that the decision was a poor one. Mr Tiwarie was criticised by the APNU when it was in opposition for work it deemed not up to standard.

On his part, Mr Tiwarie in a statement had accused Glenn Lall, publisher of Kaieteur News, of having a personal vendetta against him. Kaieteur News had broken the story about Tiwarie’s appointment.

“The fact of the matter is that Minister Harmon ‘appointed’ Mr Tiwarie as his personal advisor on business. This he is entitled to do, and by virtue of Mr Tiwarie’s business acumen, such an ‘appointment’ can be seen as nothing else but legitimate decision. Needless to say, Mr Tiwarie’s efforts in this capacity are pro bono,” the statement from Tiwari said.

President Granger, in noting his disagreement with the appointment of the businessman, ordered that his appointment be rescinded and this was done on March 24.

“I agreed with the decision of His Excellency and his rationale for rescinding the appointment,” Harmon concluded in his statement.

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Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

FM

it looks like the afc/apnu boys were getting ready to load up their pockets until the news broke out. Then they all rushed to do damage control and pretend that they didn't know. 

FM

Lets hope all of the problems we face in our politics will result a stronger democracy where new laws and non-political bodies will play a more powerful role in controlling gov't. and protecting people's rights. We can look back at the last two decades and proudly say that our people have become less fearful and more vocal on issues affecting their lives and the country as a whole.   God Bless Guyana.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Kari posted:

What's the purpose of Ministerial Adviser when you can employ competent technocrats? These 3rd world countries I tell ya!

Every competent gov't has teams of advisors in various sectors to use as think tanks.  In fact your hero Obama has loads of these.

The fact that Guyana adheres to its pattern of being an elected dictatorship and instead rewards "Advisors" who participate in crony capitalism doesn't change that fact.

Technocrats have their roles, as do advisors.  The goal is to avoid "group think" which can reduce the effectiveness of any entity.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

You expected the two ass kissing, toilet cleaning, floor mappers to say something?? You shitting me right???

Nehru
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

I predicted that there was internal dissension within the AFC. The Moses fan club screamed that I was a racist.

Harmon probably told the faction of the AFC which he is closest to, and THEY didn't tell the others.

Any one who knows Guyana will know that G/town "high people" don't interact well with "country coolie".

FM
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caribny posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

I predicted that there was internal dissension within the AFC. The Moses fan club screamed that I was a racist.

Harmon probably told the faction of the AFC which he is closest to, and THEY didn't tell the others.

If shit had wings, Badam in yuh face. Bera nancy stories whole day from this fool.

Nehru
caribny posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

I predicted that there was internal dissension within the AFC. The Moses fan club screamed that I was a racist.

Harmon probably told the faction of the AFC which he is closest to, and THEY didn't tell the others.

Any one who knows Guyana will know that G/town "high people" don't interact well with "country coolie".

At least, there was always two groups/factions in the AFC. One solidly intertwined with the PNC.

It is simply a matter of time that the unwanted side of the AFC will be discarded and eventually it will be solely the PNC supporters in government.

Point to remember ===>

PNC and The United Force == 1964

PNC and Alliance for Change == 2016

FM
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Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

Neither AFC or the Cabinet or the President had anything to do with BK appointment.

Harmon and Trotman are playing Ho-cus-poo-cus with the Guyana Govt Business and this will soon blow up in the govt face.

The truth he went on one of his secret trips to China and he got caught with his pants down.

FM

The whole cabinet will suffer from serious depression that warrants psychiatric care if this gov't. should keep its promise to be accountable and corruption free.  So far, people in this gov't. are putting their health first.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Jalil posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

Neither AFC or the Cabinet or the President had anything to do with BK appointment.

Harmon and Trotman are playing Ho-cus-poo-cus with the Guyana Govt Business and this will soon blow up in the govt face.

The truth he went on one of his secret trips to China and he got caught with his pants down.

The China trip was to get the $5M balance on GTT sale,when the bubble burst there were also other business deal,is  Presi Granger aware of the trip ??

Django
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Demerara_Guy posted:
caribny posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

I predicted that there was internal dissension within the AFC. The Moses fan club screamed that I was a racist.

Harmon probably told the faction of the AFC which he is closest to, That faction is one Man - who now.... is not trusted by the Blacks in AFC.... NIGEL WILL EXPOSE HIM....OLE PNC CROOK.

and THEY HE didn't tell the others.

Any one who knows Guyana will know that G/town "high people" don't interact well with "country coolie".

At least, there was always two groups/factions in the AFC. One solidly intertwined with the PNC. ....TROTMAN

It is simply a matter of time that the unwanted side of the AFC will be discarded and eventually it will be solely the PNC supporters in government.

KEEP SCRATCHING YOUR 60% or BETTER HYDRO_SEED...

Point to remember ===>

PNC and The United Force == 1964 === BURNHAM HYDRO_GOODEY

PNC and Alliance for Change == 2016 === JAGDEO 60% OR BETTER.

Mits wha yuh think Odo Hydro_Seed will tell us about 2020.

FM
caribny posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Mouth open, story jump out. Harmon says AFC knew but no AFC leader had the decency to step in and accept a sliver of responsibility while people were roasting Harmon's backside in the BK fiasco.

I predicted that there was internal dissension within the AFC. The Moses fan club screamed that I was a racist.

Harmon probably told the faction of the AFC which he is closest to, and THEY didn't tell the others.

Any one who knows Guyana will know that G/town "high people" don't interact well with "country coolie".

Indeed, Carib. I understand that there are cliques in the AFC 12-man leadership. They are pulling in different directions and, sad to say, PM Naga is not in the same clique with Khemraj and Nigel. I really don't know how true this is because I got the vibes from a lower-level AFC member. At this moment rumours are swirling far and wide and it's difficult to sift the truth from the untruth.

FM

Source

April 15, 2016

The Alliance for Change this evening said it was unaware of the appointment of Brian Tiwarie as a ministerial adviser and says it supported President David Granger’s decision to rescind it.

A statement from the AFC follows:

In light of a misleading and erroneous front page headline in today’s edition of the Guyana Chronicle, the Alliance For Change wishes to clarify the following:

  1. At no time was the party or any of its leaders aware of the appointment of Mr. Brian Tiwarie as Ministerial Advisor prior to the public revelation. Following the public revelation of same party Leader Khemraj Ramjattan raised the issue with His Excellency President David Granger and the party supports His Excellency’s decision to rescind the appointment.
  1. The party was only aware of the appointments of the following persons as Diaspora Advisors:
  1. Rohan Somar
  2. Ron Alert
  • Ewart Marshall
  1. Tameshwar Lilmohan

These appointments were widely reported in the media. The AFC had also recommended Mr. Floyd Haynes for similar Diaspora Advisor appointment but is, to date, unaware of if this was done.

The party reiterates that it was not consulted or informed of any advisor appointments other than those listed above.


Who is telling the truth,something smells rotten.

Django
Cobra posted:
cain posted:

How da rass does a Minister go on a trip without anyone knowing?

Ask the government that you support that don't give a shit about your concern.

You are a very stupid person. Can you not see the people here who stood/stand behind the Govt do care for the country and this is why we will not stand by and watch slackness like you and the other bumbaclaths who stand by the PPP even though they are scum?

cain

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