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AFC will be “dead meat” if it goes solo 

Local Govt polls…

– Ramjattan’s prediction could be fulfilled Any attempt by the Alliance For Change (AFC) to contest Local Government Elections (LGE), which are being planned for year-end,

Former President and now Leader of the Opposition, Bharrat Jagdeo

Former President and now Leader of the Opposition, Bharrat Jagdeo

to go solo without its coalition partner could see the Party suffering a massive defeat as a result of losing most of the political weight it had as a putative “third force” before the May 11 General and Regional Elections. As preparations and discussions are underway for the hosting of the long-awaited Local Government Elections in Guyana, it is unclear as to whether the coalition Government comprising the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and AFC, will be contesting as a jointly unit or separately. Political Commentator, Dr Henry Jeffrey, in a telephone interview with Guyana Times on Saturday, stated that this decision would depend on how the two political parties see their long-term future as a coalition. “If they see themselves as a group together in the long term, then they will go to these elections and contest together. However, if they do not then they would be contesting the upcoming elections in the regions separately. It all depends on how both parties see themselves together in the future,” Dr Jeffery explained. However, he noted that if there is truth to what the People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) is trumpeting with regards to the AFC being “wiped out” in traditional PPP/C areas, or what is being deemed ‘Indian’ areas, then it would be catastrophic for the AFC. “If this is true and the AFC decides to go to the elections to contest solo and the Party (AFC) does not do well, then this will definitely weaken the AFC. In a sense, it would also weaken the APNU because these two parties have coalesced and formed the central Government. As such, a result of this would mean that the AFC would be weakened,” he stated. Guyana Times was told that a strategic move by the APNU/AFC Government, if they should contest the Local Government Elections

Political Commentator, Dr Henry Jeffrey

Political Commentator, Dr Henry Jeffrey

independently, would be for them to all ‘civic persons’ from the local areas to participate. “If this is done and the civic persons take part, then a loss on the part of the AFC in some areas, if they do occur, would not be so obvious. If they lose in areas where they are supposed to win, people won’t see it as the AFC losing. What the public would see is that the civic persons who contested lost and, of course, these civic persons can be members of the AFC or APNU and it would not reflect as if it were either Party losing,” Dr Jeffery elaborated.

 

Opposition Leader’s perspective Previously, former two-time President and now Leader of the Opposition, Dr Bharrat Jagdeo had commented on the issue of Local Government Elections with regards to the AFC contesting solo. He had stated that should the AFC make such a move and lose, it will kick-start its demise in the political arena in Guyana and more so as part of a Government. “Now they are subsumed; Granger will decide everything,” he said, adding: “They are baggage to APNU; they are peripheral to APNU’s main thrust. So when they come into the village, they only come with a little yellow flag to fool people; they no longer exist.” According to Jagdeo, the Alliance For Change no longer has any “leverage”, given their “marriage” with APNU and any attempts to act solo will reveal the truth in his position. As it stands, the entire Alliance For Change elections machinery is in disarray and the Party has been torn by a series of internal rifts, infighting and divisions since the May 11 elections. Recently, another AFC Executive and former Parliamentarian Dr Verasammy Ramyya resigned, explaining that he was disrespected by the new Government and the people of Berbice were left out in the cold. Before entering the coalition with APNU,

Public Security Minister, Khemraj Ramjattan

Public Security Minister, Khemraj Ramjattan

leader of the AFC Khemraj Ramjattan had predicted that if that happens, the “AFC would become ‘dead meat”. He explained that the Party’s support among the Indian Berbicians constituency would desert them en masses. A Local Government Election would test this theory and with the present disillusionment with the direction the coalition has taken most observers say Ramjattan’s prediction will come to fruition.

 

PPP/C in LGE with Surujbally Meanwhile, in June, the PPP/C had no qualms about its position as it related to contesting in the upcoming Local Government Elections. The Opposition Party has maintained that it is concerned about contesting these elections with Dr Steve Surujbally as Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM). Since the PPP/C lost the May 11 General and Regional Elections, it has repeatedly called for the resignation of the GECOM Chairman, although GECOM is composed of six Commissioners- three from the APNU/AFC Government and three from the PPP/C.  Those calls have even taken the form of protests which saw former President Donald Ramotar, as well as, members from his past Cabinet picketing in front of GECOM’s Headquarters on High Street, Kingston. The PPP/C maintains its allegations that the electoral body conspired with the present administration so as to rig the recently held General Elections. The former Government offered the body’s refusal to do a national recount, as well as several disputed Statements of Poll, as evidence of the alleged “collusion”. Local Government Elections were last held in Guyana in 1994, despite stipulations stating that it is supposed to be held every four years. Efforts by this newspaper to contact several prominent figures in the AFC proved futile on Saturday.

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I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

AFC will be “dead meat” if it goes solo 

Local Govt polls…

– Ramjattan’s prediction could be fulfilled Any attempt by the Alliance For Change (AFC) to contest Local Government Elections (LGE), which are being planned for year-end,

Former President and now Leader of the Opposition, Bharrat Jagdeo

Former President and now Leader of the Opposition, Bharrat Jagdeo

to go solo without its coalition partner could see the Party suffering a massive defeat as a result of losing most of the political weight it had as a putative “third force” before the May 11 General and Regional Elections. As preparations and discussions are underway for the hosting of the long-awaited Local Government Elections in Guyana, it is unclear as to whether the coalition Government comprising the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and AFC, will be contesting as a jointly unit or separately. Political Commentator, Dr Henry Jeffrey, in a telephone interview with Guyana Times on Saturday, stated that this decision would depend on how the two political parties see their long-term future as a coalition. “If they see themselves as a group together in the long term, then they will go to these elections and contest together. However, if they do not then they would be contesting the upcoming elections in the regions separately. It all depends on how both parties see themselves together in the future,” Dr Jeffery explained. However, he noted that if there is truth to what the People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) is trumpeting with regards to the AFC being “wiped out” in traditional PPP/C areas, or what is being deemed ‘Indian’ areas, then it would be catastrophic for the AFC. “If this is true and the AFC decides to go to the elections to contest solo and the Party (AFC) does not do well, then this will definitely weaken the AFC. In a sense, it would also weaken the APNU because these two parties have coalesced and formed the central Government. As such, a result of this would mean that the AFC would be weakened,” he stated. Guyana Times was told that a strategic move by the APNU/AFC Government, if they should contest the Local Government Elections

Political Commentator, Dr Henry Jeffrey

Political Commentator, Dr Henry Jeffrey

independently, would be for them to all ‘civic persons’ from the local areas to participate. “If this is done and the civic persons take part, then a loss on the part of the AFC in some areas, if they do occur, would not be so obvious. If they lose in areas where they are supposed to win, people won’t see it as the AFC losing. What the public would see is that the civic persons who contested lost and, of course, these civic persons can be members of the AFC or APNU and it would not reflect as if it were either Party losing,” Dr Jeffery elaborated.

 

Opposition Leader’s perspective Previously, former two-time President and now Leader of the Opposition, Dr Bharrat Jagdeo had commented on the issue of Local Government Elections with regards to the AFC contesting solo. He had stated that should the AFC make such a move and lose, it will kick-start its demise in the political arena in Guyana and more so as part of a Government. “Now they are subsumed; Granger will decide everything,” he said, adding: “They are baggage to APNU; they are peripheral to APNU’s main thrust. So when they come into the village, they only come with a little yellow flag to fool people; they no longer exist.” According to Jagdeo, the Alliance For Change no longer has any “leverage”, given their “marriage” with APNU and any attempts to act solo will reveal the truth in his position. As it stands, the entire Alliance For Change elections machinery is in disarray and the Party has been torn by a series of internal rifts, infighting and divisions since the May 11 elections. Recently, another AFC Executive and former Parliamentarian Dr Verasammy Ramyya resigned, explaining that he was disrespected by the new Government and the people of Berbice were left out in the cold. Before entering the coalition with APNU,

Public Security Minister, Khemraj Ramjattan

Public Security Minister, Khemraj Ramjattan

leader of the AFC Khemraj Ramjattan had predicted that if that happens, the “AFC would become ‘dead meat”. He explained that the Party’s support among the Indian Berbicians constituency would desert them en masses. A Local Government Election would test this theory and with the present disillusionment with the direction the coalition has taken most observers say Ramjattan’s prediction will come to fruition.

 

PPP/C in LGE with Surujbally Meanwhile, in June, the PPP/C had no qualms about its position as it related to contesting in the upcoming Local Government Elections. The Opposition Party has maintained that it is concerned about contesting these elections with Dr Steve Surujbally as Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM). Since the PPP/C lost the May 11 General and Regional Elections, it has repeatedly called for the resignation of the GECOM Chairman, although GECOM is composed of six Commissioners- three from the APNU/AFC Government and three from the PPP/C.  Those calls have even taken the form of protests which saw former President Donald Ramotar, as well as, members from his past Cabinet picketing in front of GECOM’s Headquarters on High Street, Kingston. The PPP/C maintains its allegations that the electoral body conspired with the present administration so as to rig the recently held General Elections. The former Government offered the body’s refusal to do a national recount, as well as several disputed Statements of Poll, as evidence of the alleged “collusion”. Local Government Elections were last held in Guyana in 1994, despite stipulations stating that it is supposed to be held every four years. Efforts by this newspaper to contact several prominent figures in the AFC proved futile on Saturday.

Local elections are easy to manage and easy to handle and easy to sell. AFC should go in with its Coalition partners because they are the administration.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

And the economy in the doldrums in a jiffy.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

They are political dunces (Harmon and Granger) because they fail to see that by stifling AFC they are hurting themselves in the long run.  They are not even throwing AFC a bone to make them look reasonable.  Looks like Moses and Ramjattan has no say in all these firings.   Dindyal firing is going to hurt them...even Ramkarran has an article on it.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

Aren't you going to bring out the Amerindians and invigorated Africans to vote for them as you claim?  The don't need the Indian vote per advisor caribny.

FM
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Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

Stormborn, i share most of your concerns about things political in the coalition, but i don't feel comity & fairness is irretrievable at this stage . . . these are birthing pains

 

big picture . . . the buiding blocks for constitutional reform are in place and momentum is gathering; this is most important to me

 

separately, i think u are being unfair in evaluating progress towards deconstructing the tiefman edifices built up in the Jagdeo/Ramotr era

 

the coalition is handicapped by some of its own supporters seemingly eager to scream discrimination when "Indian" scoundrels in the eye of targeted corruption are turfed out

 

that said, we are seeing progress; it has, after all been less than 100 days

 

NICIL will take time and (my preference) foreign assistance; prudence and cunning merit keeping Brassington in place at this time . . . paitence

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

And the economy in the doldrums in a jiffy.

They did not put the economy th ere. The PPP borrowed up to t heir ears and speculated on their gold income and the reason the coffers dried up from 800million reserved they bragged about last year to zero. The PPP played three card monty with the nations assets to make themselves rich. They were thieves more than managers.

 

The APNU is needs to get off the starting blocks. They do not have to do much to be better than the PPP and make t he people happy. They can even steal considerably and still be liked if only they begin to make the system simple to do business, control crime and actually begin to let capitalism function rather than chosen drug lords washing money type of enterprises we see on regent and rob streets. They will also need to institute import standards...no old cars....cheap Chinese goods with lead paint and arsenic for example. Yes, they need to let the market place self regulate with some oversight.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

On the contrary, I think Granger is a smart politician, and a smart student of history. However, I do agree that the AFC, given the racial divide (see Ralph's article today) and because Indians are still suspicious of the crimes, firings etc, though the firings are largely of political appointees. AND, I am sure the PNC element will rig the next election to stay in power. Jagdeo, is seen as the person most capable in the opposition who can expose this issue....thus the move to try to immobilize him.  You are now witnessing a new trend, where the government is going to use Indians to attack Jagdeo, so it does not look like a "racial thing".

V
Last edited by VishMahabir
Originally Posted by Prashad:
The Afc may be chased out of every East indian area in Guyana

If indians did not run with the PPP who the hell cares if they run with the AFC? What has th e AFC done except facilitated the removal of a corrupt regime? That is what a party ought to do...stand for something. Indians need to also stand for something ie our nation and not Indianness.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

Aren't you going to bring out the Amerindians and invigorated Africans to vote for them as you claim?  The don't need the Indian vote per advisor caribny.

Why don't you worry about the PPP and the fact that its Indian base is dwindling, will likely much of their Amerindian vote, unless the coalition gov't proves grossly incompetent, and will continue to be rejected by the African/mixed vote.

 

Its YOUR failure to condemn PPP racism that will condemn them to remaining in the opposition, should APNU/AFC show some slight level of competence.

 

But of course VVP thinks that the African and mixed vote don't matter, only the Indian vote, so you think that the PPP can remain a "coolie party" and still win.  This even when many PPP supporters spew vile racism, and people like you tacitly support them to remaining silent.

FM
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Originally Posted by Prashad:
The Afc may be chased out of every East indian area in Guyana

They already were, and yet the PPP lost.  Keep on dreaming that the PPP can win, based on being a "coolie party".

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

Aren't you going to bring out the Amerindians and invigorated Africans to vote for them as you claim?  The don't need the Indian vote per advisor caribny.

vvp, NAH TEK WORRIES DAT CHAP IS A SLAVE MENTALLY. He condone INCOMPETENCE, DICTATORSHIP, THEFT, PARTY PARAMOUNTCY as long as it is NOT an INDIAN  doing it.  It is not totally his fault, it is the long hours in spent in the fields!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by redux:
 

the coalition is handicapped by some of its own supporters seemingly eager to scream discrimination when "Indian" scoundrels in the eye of targeted corruption are turfed out

 

 

#1 concern for the vast majority of Guyanese is a solid policy of economic development, and the creation of decent paying jobs.  If APNU/AFC babble about constitutional reform, as the economy slows and incomes dwindle, they will lose support even in their strongholds.

 

Crime is another priority which the APNU/AFC needs to focus on.  I don't know whether there is indeed more crime now than prior to May 11, or whether any upsurge is due to PPP phantom activity.  The key issue is that crime in Guyana is rampant because we have an ineffective, under equipped, and severely demoralized police force.  So what is this new gov't looking to do about this.

 

The reality is that they should have had the broad strokes of a strategy BEFORE they came into office, so I do NOT accept the excuse that they are new.  I don't not expect them to solve the problems, but I do expect them to have a vision as to how these problems will be solved.  They were in parliament, and so would have been fully aware of the extent of these problems.

 

Please don't use the AFC Indo problem as an excuse.  These are people who brought in few votes, and therefore have limited ability to impact any thing.  Those who they scream race to voted PPP, so there are few votes to lose.  In fact what will enhance APNU/AFC among Indians is dealing with crime, and crafting a strategy of EQUITABLE economic development.  Not the wails of some geriatric because he didn't get a fancy job with a chauffer.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

Aren't you going to bring out the Amerindians and invigorated Africans to vote for them as you claim?  The don't need the Indian vote per advisor caribny.

vvp, NAH TEK WORRIES DAT CHAP IS A SLAVE MENTALLY. He condone INCOMPETENCE, DICTATORSHIP, THEFT, PARTY PARAMOUNTCY as long as it is NOT an INDIAN  doing it.  It is not totally his fault, it is the long hours in spent in the fields!!!!

Dude, write something meaningful to show you are worthy of that PhD. Nothing you say conveys information. It is as one ceaseless rant from a stupefied drunk

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

On the contrary, I think Granger is a smart politician, and a smart student of history. However, I do agree that the AFC, given the racial divide (see Ralph's article today) and because Indians are still suspicious of the crimes, firings etc, though the firings are largely of political appointees. AND, I am sure the PNC element will rig the next election to stay in power. Jagdeo, is seen as the person most capable in the opposition who can expose this issue....thus the move to try to immobilize him.  You are now witnessing a new trend, where the government is going to use Indians to attack Jagdeo, so it does not look like a "racial thing".

From what I understand Dindyal was not a Brassington.  It looks like he use to stand up to the PPP also.  The only reason he should have been fired is if he was corrupt.  

He brought some stability to GPL.  The problems with GPL are huge when you have unreasonable/unjust rates given the economic condition of the country where the average income is US$3,500 per year vs about US$60,000 in the USA and the electric rates in GY are higher than the USA.  People will thief under these conditions.  There has to be major vision for the electric industry in Guyana.  I frankly do not think that anyone in Guyana has the vision including Dindyal, but he seems to be the best they have.

FM
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Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

Aren't you going to bring out the Amerindians and invigorated Africans to vote for them as you claim?  The don't need the Indian vote per advisor caribny.

vvp, NAH TEK WORRIES DAT CHAP IS A SLAVE MENTALLY. He condone INCOMPETENCE, DICTATORSHIP, THEFT, PARTY PARAMOUNTCY as long as it is NOT an INDIAN  doing it.  It is not totally his fault, it is the long hours in spent in the fields!!!!

Dude, write something meaningful to show you are worthy of that PhD. Nothing you say conveys information. It is as one ceaseless rant from a stupefied drunk

A Piwari DRUNKARD IDIOT like you who write Pages of RAW SEWAGE daily complaining. Well, what is the World becoming??!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:

.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I see.  As a closet member of the Indo KKK, you still remain obsessed with me, when you have Indo KKK members spewing vile anti black bigotry.  Clearly you support their views.

Aren't you going to bring out the Amerindians and invigorated Africans to vote for them as you claim?  The don't need the Indian vote per advisor caribny.

vvp, NAH TEK WORRIES DAT CHAP IS A SLAVE MENTALLY. He condone INCOMPETENCE, DICTATORSHIP, THEFT, PARTY PARAMOUNTCY as long as it is NOT an INDIAN  doing it.  It is not totally his fault, it is the long hours in spent in the fields!!!!

Dude, write something meaningful to show you are worthy of that PhD. Nothing you say conveys information. It is as one ceaseless rant from a stupefied drunk

A Piwari DRUNKARD IDIOT like you who write Pages of RAW SEWAGE daily complaining. Well, what is the World becoming??!!!!!!!!!!

As I noted earlier....you are smart only in your own head...the world knows better. Your stupidity is magnified by your liberal use of nonsense terms and endless racist rants. Go right on ahead...Just for your information...that drunk part is more a reference coming from what is your habit. I regret to say...a glass of port in the evening does me fine..

FM
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Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

And the economy in the doldrums in a jiffy.

They did not put the economy th ere. The PPP borrowed up to t heir ears and speculated on their gold income and the reason the coffers dried up from 800million reserved they bragged about last year to zero. The PPP played three card monty with the nations assets to make themselves rich. They were thieves more than managers.

 

The APNU is needs to get off the starting blocks. They do not have to do much to be better than the PPP and make t he people happy. They can even steal considerably and still be liked if only they begin to make the system simple to do business, control crime and actually begin to let capitalism function rather than chosen drug lords washing money type of enterprises we see on regent and rob streets. They will also need to institute import standards...no old cars....cheap Chinese goods with lead paint and arsenic for example. Yes, they need to let the market place self regulate with some oversight.

Bai, go rest up.  PNC screwed up big time since May.  It's all on their head.  There is no mitigating factors.  Gold declined, so did costs of Imported oil.  The businessmen I met last week place the blame at the PNC and their policies, or lack there of.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

And the economy in the doldrums in a jiffy.

They did not put the economy th ere. The PPP borrowed up to t heir ears and speculated on their gold income and the reason the coffers dried up from 800million reserved they bragged about last year to zero. The PPP played three card monty with the nations assets to make themselves rich. They were thieves more than managers.

 

The APNU is needs to get off the starting blocks. They do not have to do much to be better than the PPP and make t he people happy. They can even steal considerably and still be liked if only they begin to make the system simple to do business, control crime and actually begin to let capitalism function rather than chosen drug lords washing money type of enterprises we see on regent and rob streets. They will also need to institute import standards...no old cars....cheap Chinese goods with lead paint and arsenic for example. Yes, they need to let the market place self regulate with some oversight.

Bai, go rest up.  PNC screwed up big time since May.  It's all on their head.  There is no mitigating factors.  Gold declined, so did costs of Imported oil.  The businessmen I met last week place the blame at the PNC and their policies, or lack there of.

Dude...the PNC is yet to institute any meaningful economic changes. They had no funds to allocate until the budget which came on line only a couple of weeks now. In the PPP era..business man mean a fast food owner, retail outlet and most likely a drug money launderer. Tell me about business men when they can say the make a widget or craft a paperclip.  Business men in guyanese terms are all low end hustlers reselling some substandard crap the source from elsewhere and soaking up drug cash in the system

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by VVP:

I think the AFC is indeed dead meat; killed by Harmon and Granger and aptly aided by Moses and Ramjattan.  AFC has no power in the coalition as is clearly seen.  Granger and Harmon are political dunces.  Don't worry caribny squad is going to save the day for them in the LGE.

I do not know why you call them political dunces. They seem to be daft in terms of management but very astute politically. They used the exploding ministries tactics to keep the standard hierarchical management model into a round table with the two of them sitting at the center. Not only are they executive president but they are micromanaging everything. Eventually, they will piss people off. I am already up to my hocks with these fellows. They seem to be more concern with the consolidating political strangle hold on the nation than managing it.

 

As I noted, not a damn word to date about Deconstructing NICIL....nothing about the Chinese and logging...nothing about regulatory oversight of mining no emphasis to build our fishing industry ( the only thing we have going for real) no effort to de copile GPL from NICIL etc.

And the economy in the doldrums in a jiffy.

They did not put the economy th ere. The PPP borrowed up to t heir ears and speculated on their gold income and the reason the coffers dried up from 800million reserved they bragged about last year to zero. The PPP played three card monty with the nations assets to make themselves rich. They were thieves more than managers.

 

The APNU is needs to get off the starting blocks. They do not have to do much to be better than the PPP and make t he people happy. They can even steal considerably and still be liked if only they begin to make the system simple to do business, control crime and actually begin to let capitalism function rather than chosen drug lords washing money type of enterprises we see on regent and rob streets. They will also need to institute import standards...no old cars....cheap Chinese goods with lead paint and arsenic for example. Yes, they need to let the market place self regulate with some oversight.

Bai, go rest up.  PNC screwed up big time since May.  It's all on their head.  There is no mitigating factors.  Gold declined, so did costs of Imported oil. The businessmen I met last week place the blame at the PNC and their policies, or lack there of.

Dude...the PNC is yet to institute any meaningful economic changes. They had no funds to allocate until the budget which came on line only a couple of weeks now. In the PPP era..business man mean a fast food owner, retail outlet and most likely a drug money launderer. Tell me about business men when they can say the make a widget or craft a paperclip.  Business men in guyanese terms are all low end hustlers reselling some substandard crap the source from elsewhere and soaking up drug cash in the system

Oi Base, I hear something bout birds of a feather...is wuh goin on banna?

So if I go down to Guyana you could hook me up with which, some nice fast food,a lil break if I buy a pair ah pants or doin some laundry?

 

 

Dam! I forgot to log off last night, been on board 24hrs now dam...breaking Nuff's record.

cain
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