Another Huge Middle Eastern Country With An Al Qaeda Franchise Is On The Verge Of Exploding

Again....my firm belief is that not until Muslim clerics and scholars get together and formally declare a global council to affirm the faith...fanaticism of all sorts will reign. There must be an amendment to the basic shahada to incorporate articles of the faith that a global authority declares is the basis of the faith. Until that comes there will be a fractured reality and suspicions of Muslims in ones community. I do not trust Muslims to do right by me if they accrue some numbers in my community where they can mass and yell their creed in the streets. I do not trust  they will respect me and my right to be who I am. 

There appears to be in the Muslim community a general reluctance to stand up and say this is what I believe and that which is happening there in ISIS and the other fanatic groups is not it. Further, what dominates in every enclave of expatriate Muslim communities is not the elders with clear cut global agreement on articles of the faith  but a confused mass interpreting and or declaring themselves official interpreters of the faith and it always end up a bizarre mess of anti west, anti women, anti other religion mess.

Could it be fear? are most muslims conformists? or ritualistic?

Muslim like any other group of people will react to what is dished out to them.

The article of faith that you are speaking about is known to everyone yet they all act on their own accord when faced with survival. For too long many leaders  in the Islamic world oppressed  their people and when these people get a chance they act with spite and become barbaric. On the other hand  west   is not acting  fair  and the people just hold them in contempt.

I always say this,  Muslim scholars  are a product of their environment and they will deliver fatwahs as such. The basic teachings of Islam is the same but is how some of these folks apply it is a different thing.

I do agree with you that their need to be a global gathering of scholars   to address 1. Muslims need not resort to violence  and murdering of innocents 2.Tell the world the  that Muslims like every group of people need peace and appeal for people who are interfering in the internal politics of the oil producing  muslim countries to leave them alone.

Islam seems to have become a convenient excuse for despots and ultra inhuman persons.

I agree with you though Chief this goes across cultures and you are correct in calling for Muslims to step forward and speak up against these criminals. 

There is a strange phenomenon there though where the majority of muslims seem to be way too silent on the abuses of these so called "muslims" i.e. Al Qaeda and Isis or ISIL or whatever the heck their names are gonna be next week.

What do you want the west to do? Did not Belgium, Holland, Denmark accept the destitute North Africans and provide them a home? Did not the same happened in England Australia and the US? Are not these fools assured that they have their survival taken care of? What motivates them to act as Genghis Khan in brutality?

Every so called Muslim land was drawn up and dispensed by the western imperial powers and they did here no less than the did elsewhere. Muslims were imperial as any in their heyday. What is happening in the ME has not a damn thing to do with the west. I agree that the west drew straight lines and decided on their own against tribal heritage and culture what goes where but this has nothing to do with land rights, or tribalism or culture or religious oppression either. This is evil plain and simple.

It is clearly a lack of religious grounding and interpretations of religious laws. These are monsters in the name of religion who need to be challenged by those in whose name they pretend to act. Don't you think you need to voice your contempt for them rather than excuse it on the backs of some unfair west?

Blaming others for ones cruelty is the worse kind of  self deception.

They should disrobe all the muslim women who wear a face covering. They could be men in disguise. These women does look bulky and could be men. Just look at that chicken who lobbing off the heads of westerers. He covers his damn face and he want show he azz bad. These muslim men should show their faces so that Barack Obama blow their friken heads off. 

Every friday, these muslim people who live in the west bad mouth the west. And yet, their cleric claims that ISIS is not a muslim. But Mohammed did the same damn things. 

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I do agree with you that their need to be a global gathering of scholars   to address

1. Muslims need not resort to violence  and murdering of innocents

2.Tell the world the  that Muslims like every group of people need peace and appeal for people who are interfering in the internal politics of the oil producing  muslim countries to leave them alone.

Look like #2 went over most people head

Oil is hardly the issue here. There is no oil problem in Iraq or syria that anyone care to capture. The world is also rapidly moving away from oil. metals like vanadium is far more necessary than oil in the future given its ease of use as a battery. 

Also, one cannot leave brutes as in Nigeria, or Somalia or IS alone. Then we end up fostering the existence of locusts who would eventually feed on everything.

The US has gone nuts on Shale production of natural gas so Stromborn has a  point there oil is no longer the reason for US involvement in the middle east.

The fact is many arab nations have been for sometime now begging the US to intervene in Syria many of them went ballistic when they were rebuffed by the Obama administration (Saudi arabia).

It is not to save the Hundreds or Thousands of poor & innocent or even young Black Girls either.

Could it be to support or Install some one in power who will not make waves in the Middle East ...and will just sit quiet and pooja de pitbull in de region.

Who cares if they are read or brown being murdered? Does the 800 thousand who massed into turkey or the 60 thousand who turned up at the border yesterday have a delusion about what they are running from?

Patronizing if not facilitating voices need to wake up to the monster that is practicing evil in your name and call it for what it is.