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Did Carl Greenidge with justification give up too much to the AFC to end the subterfuge and dominance of the old guards within his own house?

By what token does Khemraj Ramjattan lead a Home Affairs portfolio in place of career security operatives Joseph Harmon, Winston Felix or any other competent career security operative? No bars hold Ramjattan is saying he has to protect coolie people from black people. Ramjattan is also saying that only a coolie man can protect and secure the interests of coolie farmers.

By what token was a young ,vibrant and proven leader of a major constituency, Linden, Sharma Solomon, who commands the presence of the entire constituency, deprived of the opportunity to head the Ministry of Youth & Sport? Linden must be represented by their own within the new administration or they must pull their vote.

The APNU is playing with fire.They have negotiated encirclement by a PPP appendage and have transferred the funeral of Afro-Guyanese from the cemetery to a crematorium.

Just listen to the language of Ramjattan and Nagamootoo and you will get my drift. Lest we forget, the AFC was abducted from Raphael Trotman by the PPPites who will now carry out the same stunt on the APNU. Ramjattan has already blown the trumpet, he will move a no confidence motion against the APNU if he perceives betrayal by voting with the PPP to derail the APNU.

in my view there is only one resolution to Guyana's ethnic embroglio. The parties must each face the polls alone. If Indo- Guyanese reelect the corrupt PPP killing machine it means they want to ensure the domination and control of Afro- Guyanese and the other ethnic communities. There is absolutely no reason for Indo-Guyanese to reelect the PPP.

Should the PPP regime be reelected, a predominantly Afro-Guyanese military force must seize control of the state, appoint a caretaker government for a period of 12-18 months who must set up a panel of legal luminaries to erect a constitutional order which ends the winner-take-all conundrum while putting in place a system of government that gives equal opportunity and protection to all Guyanese, then return the state to civilian rule.

The only checks and balance the AFC are setting up are those to ensure the continued domination of Afro-Guyanese.

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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

By hook or crook, we will have PNC rule!!!!

 

Dis Talbot chap gat balls man. The PNC found some credible Indians to sell a PNC Presidency to Indians in Berbice of all places and he somehow thinks this is some clever trick on our part to perpetuate Indo-domination

FM
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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

And you still think that an alliance between Indo and Afro moderates is a bad thing?

 

I see your point. This place is full of mad people

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

And you still think that an alliance between Indo and Afro moderates is a bad thing?

 

I see your point. This place is full of mad people

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

 

Probably hiding from their Indian supporters today

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

By hook or crook, we will have PNC rule!!!!

 

Dis Talbot chap gat balls man. The PNC found some credible Indians to sell a PNC Presidency to Indians in Berbice of all places and he somehow thinks this is some clever trick on our part to perpetuate Indo-domination

He lives in a fantasy.  The Indians have more guns and blacks don't control the GDF.  Violence was tried by the hardliners and it failed.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

By hook or crook, we will have PNC rule!!!!

 

Dis Talbot chap gat balls man. The PNC found some credible Indians to sell a PNC Presidency to Indians in Berbice of all places and he somehow thinks this is some clever trick on our part to perpetuate Indo-domination

He lives in a fantasy.  The Indians have more guns and blacks don't control the GDF.  Violence was tried by the hardliners and it failed.

 

Talbot seems to have given this some serious thought though. Man even figured out how long military rule should last. Guyana has some seriously crazy people

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

People in Guyana are free to vote their choice given to them in 1992. No one accompanies you to the ballot box.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

People in Guyana are free to vote their choice given to them in 1992. No one accompanies you to the ballot box.

 

That is pretty disingenuous. You know full well that we don't cast a "free" vote based on "free" choice.

 

We vote based on fear of being oppressed by the other side. No one likes the PPP. The best I can say for the PPP is that they are what HIV is to AIDS. Not quite as bad but not something you'd want either.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

People in Guyana are free to vote their choice given to them in 1992. No one accompanies you to the ballot box.

I never said you shouldn't vote for a party which has nothing to offer than racism.  Go ahead and respond to the screams that the Indian tribe must vote for the Indian party, and the failure to do so is treason.

 

See if the 53% of voters who aren't Indians, care about that noise.

FM

Just to clarify my position. As mentioned many times before, I don't care for any return of the old school PNC completely in control but do support a representative government where the black communities will not be ignored as they currently are. I thought the AFC provided a mechanism to provide that balance but since the 2011, elections, they have squandered their mandate. Now that they have self destruct their party, I can't help but acknowledge the amusement in their actions. It tells that they did not have confidence in their ability to fare well and hope that the can benefit from an APNU victory. But they miscalculated in thinking that those traditional PPP voters will suddenly vote for the PNC. I keep hearing that the voting population today is not as seeded in the politics of Burnham and Jagan. Maybe so but they still somehow manage to align their support similar to their predecessors did. If some voters while not identifying with Burnham and Jagan did not feel comfortable voting for APNU the last time, why does anyone think they will suddenly jump ship vote that way this year.

 

So all I am doing is having fun at the AFC admitting that they are screwed unless they team up with the APNU and in doing so handed back most of those votes of 2011 to the PPP yet believe they will not lose those votes.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Just to clarify my position. As mentioned many times before, I don't care for any return of the old school PNC completely in control but do support a representative government where the black communities will not be ignored as they currently are. I thought the AFC provided a mechanism to provide that balance but since the 2011, elections, they have squandered their mandate. Now that they have self destruct their party, I can't help but acknowledge the amusement in their actions. It tells that they did not have confidence in their ability to fare well and hope that the can benefit from an APNU victory. But they miscalculated in thinking that those traditional PPP voters will suddenly vote for the PNC. I keep hearing that the voting population today is not as seeded in the politics of Burnham and Jagan. Maybe so but they still somehow manage to align their support similar to their predecessors did. If some voters while not identifying with Burnham and Jagan did not feel comfortable voting for APNU the last time, why does anyone think they will suddenly jump ship vote that way this year.

 

So all I am doing is having fun at the AFC admitting that they are screwed unless they team up with the APNU and in doing so handed back most of those votes of 2011 to the PPP yet believe they will not lose those votes.

All true except that slightly more than 50% of the voters aren't Indian, and the just under 50% Indian vote aren't monolithic.

 

APNU/AFC can develop a selling strategy to woo different groups of voters, so defeat isn't inevitable.  The shrill race card that the PPP is now playing can backfire on them.  It might well depress the Indian vote, not able to vote PNC, but tired of the PPP.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

People in Guyana are free to vote their choice given to them in 1992. No one accompanies you to the ballot box.

 

That is pretty disingenuous. You know full well that we don't cast a "free" vote based on "free" choice.

 

We vote based on fear of being oppressed by the other side. No one likes the PPP. The best I can say for the PPP is that they are what HIV is to AIDS. Not quite as bad but not something you'd want either.

Then the PPP should win a landslide everytime...like the next election.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Just to clarify my position. As mentioned many times before, I don't care for any return of the old school PNC completely in control but do support a representative government where the black communities will not be ignored as they currently are. I thought the AFC provided a mechanism to provide that balance but since the 2011, elections, they have squandered their mandate. Now that they have self destruct their party, I can't help but acknowledge the amusement in their actions. It tells that they did not have confidence in their ability to fare well and hope that the can benefit from an APNU victory. But they miscalculated in thinking that those traditional PPP voters will suddenly vote for the PNC. I keep hearing that the voting population today is not as seeded in the politics of Burnham and Jagan. Maybe so but they still somehow manage to align their support similar to their predecessors did. If some voters while not identifying with Burnham and Jagan did not feel comfortable voting for APNU the last time, why does anyone think they will suddenly jump ship vote that way this year.

 

So all I am doing is having fun at the AFC admitting that they are screwed unless they team up with the APNU and in doing so handed back most of those votes of 2011 to the PPP yet believe they will not lose those votes.

AFC did the right thing for Guyana...if all 3 parties contest separately, PPP will never win a majority, but they will always get the PResidency...which will lead to gridlock...then no confidence motion etc etc

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

People in Guyana are free to vote their choice given to them in 1992. No one accompanies you to the ballot box.

 

That is pretty disingenuous. You know full well that we don't cast a "free" vote based on "free" choice.

 

We vote based on fear of being oppressed by the other side. No one likes the PPP. The best I can say for the PPP is that they are what HIV is to AIDS. Not quite as bad but not something you'd want either.

Then the PPP should win a landslide everytime...like the next election.

PPP depends on racism to win

FM

What Talbot says is not important. David was adamant that an army must never overthrow a civilian govt. I heard at Mike's house when asked this question he went into a serious intellectual discussion explaining why coups don't work. David Granger also refuses to partake in disorder on the streets. Indians asked him to take the streets and he said no! The man is a fine leader to be President. He took a serious beating from a few people within his party for refusing to follow a path of mayhem and disorder. It is not that David Granger does not know the PPP is uncivilized and backward. But he understands that no one can predict chaos. I really hate it when people use an anecdote to extrapolate as a generality. CaribJ does this all the time. Now Shaitan is doing same. One observation does not make a trend. One has to sift through the noise to extract the trend. Talbot is the noise. Granger is the trend.

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Where are the pro democracy AFC backers?

I will suggest that some one who supports the PPP, now in a full throated race war mode, shouldn't be babbling about democracy.  The PPP operates on the notion that the largest tribe wins, and that all members of the tribe must vote PPP, or be damned as being traitors.

People in Guyana are free to vote their choice given to them in 1992. No one accompanies you to the ballot box.

 

That is pretty disingenuous. You know full well that we don't cast a "free" vote based on "free" choice.

 

We vote based on fear of being oppressed by the other side. No one likes the PPP. The best I can say for the PPP is that they are what HIV is to AIDS. Not quite as bad but not something you'd want either.

Then the PPP should win a landslide everytime...like the next election.

PPP depends on racism to win

In which case the PPP will lose on May 11.

The Indo segment is smaller; everyone knows that.

The PPP will never get 100 percent votes from that shrinking segment.

The margin of Indo discontent and disaffection with the PPP has widened.

To prevent more desertions, the PPP is resurrecting the Burnham/bad blackman bogeyman. In vain.

FM
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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

By hook or crook, we will have PNC rule!!!!

Great guys. I am loving this.  It is this kind of talk that will keep the Indians together.

Yea hope the House of Israel murderers now with PPP will keep them together. 

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Vote PNC or face military coup. Perfectly reasonable idea

By hook or crook, we will have PNC rule!!!!

Great guys. I am loving this.  It is this kind of talk that will keep the Indians together.

 

And it is remarks like these that make me want to support the Coalition. You people are just disgusting in how you exploit the Indians.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:

who exactly is this Talbot person alyuh whiney antimen opportunistically anoint as proxy for Guyana blackman by reason of a posting on FaceBook?

 

there are at least 10 Indo equivalents of Mr Talbot posting regularly on GNI

 

wtf . . .?

 

No one posted him as some "proxy blackman." I thought he was funny enough to mention. And he is. Apparently this chap thinks a Black President and 60% of the Cabinet is "Indo domination." He is posted here for us to laugh at and ridicule.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

who exactly is this Talbot person alyuh whiney antimen opportunistically anoint as proxy for Guyana blackman by reason of a posting on FaceBook?

 

there are at least 10 Indo equivalents of Mr Talbot posting regularly on GNI

 

wtf . . .?

 

No one posted him as some "proxy blackman." I thought he was funny enough to mention. And he is. Apparently this chap thinks a Black President and 60% of the Cabinet is "Indo domination." He is posted here for us to laugh at and ridicule.

you promote this nonentity's shyte to engender fear & suspicion of black people and alienate Indo-Guyanese from the prospect of democratic change

 

besides . . . you are on record here holding even more bizarre and racist ideas of what constitutes Afro domination in the Guyana context

 

laughter and ridicule (and perhaps pity) well deserved there too, no?

FM

The great Shitstains has his own battles with Talbot on Facebook.

 

He is just trying to take that out of context there and bring it here.

 

He should go to Facebook and challenge those people he pick racist fights wid and hash it out there. What he should also do is copy and paste all the comments from young indian women that are cussing his ass every minute for his racist rantings.

 

Oh Great Shitstains you are too transparent.

FM
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