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Why? If a piece of legislation is passed by mean of a majority vote, why would the president refuse to sign it? Where does it say in the constitution of veto power by the president? If that's the case, Guyana is not going anywhere.
FM
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Originally posted by Nehru:
YES.

Nehru, if you were my lawyer I have absolutely no chance- He might even double my sentence…The judge will jail both of us. lol
You said “Yes” but how that work….???
FM
The President can refuse and if Parliament create bassa bassa he can deal with them too. And if Parliament wants to bring him up on some trial he can dismiss Parliament as well. This guy has more power than the President of the USA, thanks to Forbes.
FM
Hopefully he is not foolish to stop the ones rescinding some of Jagdeo's benefits. I was thinking that just as Bill Clinton may have been responsible for Al Gore's chance of being president, Jagdeo may have screwed Ramotar's performance and hopefully he will not also allow him to cause him his presidency. He promised change. Lets hope he meant it. If the opposition is smart, they would not do a n-confidence vote on Ramotar because any new election before Ramotar has a chance to mess will see all those votes returned to the PPP.
FM
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Originally posted by Alexander:
The President can refuse and if Parliament create bassa bassa he can deal with them too. And if Parliament wants to bring him up on some trial he can dismiss Parliament as well. This guy has more power than the President of the USA, thanks to Forbes.


Oh, that's what executive power means? Therefore, he can spank Jagdeo butt in public and get away with it. Smile
FM
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Originally posted by Alexander:
The President can refuse and if Parliament create bassa bassa he can deal with them too. And if Parliament wants to bring him up on some trial he can dismiss Parliament as well. This guy has more power than the President of the USA, thanks to Forbes.


Yeah he was afraid that there will be a day of reckoning so he protected himself.
FM
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Originally posted by Alexander:
Ramotar will do well to distance himself from Jagdeo. Jagdeo has become a liability.


He's not all that bad; we have to give Jack his jacket. We can't let the man walk out in the cold undressed.
FM
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Originally posted by Alexander:
The President can refuse and if Parliament create bassa bassa he can deal with them too. And if Parliament wants to bring him up on some trial he can dismiss Parliament as well. This guy has more power than the President of the USA, thanks to Forbes.


So Nehru is right …..The president pen has power much much more than what we know of? So maybe when Burnham was writing the constitution he had Ramotar in mind.
FM
Under this constitution the President has alot of power so it is not like Britain or Canada where there can be a no confidence motion passed.

I would be in favour of bringing back the Governor General position chosen by the queen on recommendation of the Prime Minister and Opposition Leader and scrapping the President position and just having a Prime Minister. That way there can be some impartiality by the Governor General and the Prime Minister has to answer in parliment to questions from the opposition. Also all sessions in parliment should be shown live in local TV and on the internet.
FM
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Originally posted by Alexander:
If Parliament wants to remove him there is a provision that half of Parliament has to prove that he is insane! Who will sign that insanity certificate?


If you have an absolute dictator for President then the only doctor who will sign that insane certificate will be a doctor who is insane himself. Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by Churchill:
I believe here is a mechanism somewhere in the constitution which gives parliament the edge over the president if he/she continues to veto the bills passed ....


I can’t believe Burnham did not see this one…, interesting.
FM
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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:

I can’t believe Burnham did not see this one…, interesting.


Burnham never expected to have a parliament that was not a rubber stamp.
FM
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Originally posted by Wally:
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Originally posted by Alexander:
If Parliament wants to remove him there is a provision that half of Parliament has to prove that he is insane! Who will sign that insanity certificate?


If you have an absolute dictator for President then the only doctor who will sign that insane certificate will be a doctor who is insane himself. Big Grin

I do agree, in effect that doctor will be signing his own death certificate….
lol
FM
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Originally posted by Cobra:
Why? If a piece of legislation is passed by mean of a majority vote, why would the president refuse to sign it? Where does it say in the constitution of veto power by the president? If that's the case, Guyana is not going anywhere.


Where does it have to go? Guyana has progressed tremendously since the PNC tyranny.
FM
Anyone please help ….

The office of executive president is by far the most powerful position in Guyana. The executive president is head of state and commander in chief of the armed forces. He or she has the power to veto any bill passed in the National Assembly and can dissolve the assembly if a veto is overridden.

Elected to a term not to exceed five years concurrent with the term of the incumbent National Assembly, the executive president is the nominee of the party with the largest number of votes in the assembly. There is no limit on the number of times the executive president may be reelected. Grounds for removal from office include inability to function for medical reasons, violations of the constitution as determined by a two-thirds vote of the National Assembly, and findings of gross misconduct by vote of threequarters of the National Assembly. If a motion to remove the executive president from office passes the National Assembly, he or she has three days to vacate the office or dissolve the legislature. The executive president may postpone national elections in one-year increments for up to five years.

The executive president appoints several vice presidents, a prime minister, and various other ministers. This group is known collectively as the cabinet. Although the prime minister and other vice presidents must be selected from the elected members of the National Assembly, other cabinet ministers need not hold an elective post. The number of vice presidents and ministers varies. In 1990 there were two vice presidents and eight ministers. The executive president may dismiss all cabinet members at will.

1) He or she has the power to veto any bill passed in the National Assembly and can dissolve the assembly if a veto is overridden.

2) Grounds for removal from office include inability to function for medical reasons, violations of the constitution as determined by a two-thirds vote of the National Assembly, and findings of gross misconduct by vote of threequarters of the National Assembly.

3) The executive president may postpone national elections in one-year increments for up to five years.

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FM
It is interesting to note that the outgoing President could have postpone the General Elections for five years, and still be within his rights according to the constitution.

3) The executive president may postpone national elections in one-year increments for up to five years.

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FM
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Originally posted by asj:
It is interesting to note that the outgoing President could have postpone the General Elections for five years, and still be within his rights according to the constitution.

3) The executive president may postpone national elections in one-year increments for up to five years.

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This could lead to anarchy. Jagdeo knew this, else he could have served his "third" term.

This constitution gives a lot of power even to a coward and even more than the Presidents of first world countries.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by asj:
It is interesting to note that the outgoing President could have postpone the General Elections for five years, and still be within his rights according to the constitution.

3) The executive president may postpone national elections in one-year increments for up to five years.

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This could lead to anarchy. Jagdeo knew this, else he could have served his "third" term.

This constitution gives a lot of power even to a coward and even more than the Presidents of first world countries.


I do not think that anarchy would have followed as Jagdeo would have been within his rights,
Anarchy would have been lawless, illegal and would have been dealth with.

The constituition would have showed two things, one, that it was okay for the then PNC Burnham led Government to be governed by that constitution, and two that it was okay for the PNC supporters to have revered it at the time.

Now that this same constitutions falls in the hands, of the PPP/C, the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness........thus showing the PNC'a racialness in Guyana under a PPP/C government.

Guyana has come a far way, but the racialness expressed by APNU/PNC still exists today, and this will forever be entrenched within the PNC/APNU and their supporters.

Even today as I am writing this piece, whils't the President of Guyana is being sworn in, one can see that Georgetown is like a ghost town, business shutters being down, whils't the PNC/APNU continues with their lawless marches.

Who suffers as a result??? Your guess is as good as mine, not the Indians, not the Amerindians, not the other races but the Guyanese Afros.....who controls all the small businesses and stalls in Georgetown, one could hear their cries "Last Year time like now, I was making a lot of money, I do not know what it is with these stupid marches, I have not made any money today"

And the cries continue to hurt the small PNC businessmen. With the developments taking place, I can see the near future with Malls in every villages there will be no need for Indians to traverse Georgetown, the actions of the PNC will hurt even their own supporters, as Indians are getting smart to PNC hooliganism.

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FM
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Originally posted by Sunil:
Ecuador once declared their president insane and he was thrown into the mad house for 2 years. Big Grin


Different scenario should that happen in Guyana as the Constitutions spells it out clearly.

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FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
. . . the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness

GNI's esteemed 'moderator' . . .


Your contributions say nothing. You are irrelevant.

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FM
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
. . . the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness

GNI's esteemed 'moderator' . . .


Your contributions say nothing. You are irrelevant.

Nope, my contributions EXPOSE you as the ignorant THUG we always knew you were.

. . . a walking, talking DISGRACE!!
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
. . . the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness

GNI's esteemed 'moderator' . . .


Your contributions say nothing. You are irrelevant.

Nope, my contributions EXPOSE you as the ignorant THUG we always knew you were.

. . . a walking, talking DISGRACE!!


Your contribution only expose your stupidity where you disseminate diarrhea through your mouth and your constipation ideas are in a lockdown mode......good for all concerned.

Now go such on a gander egg.

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FM
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
. . . the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness

GNI's esteemed 'moderator' . . .


Your contributions say nothing. You are irrelevant.

Nope, my contributions EXPOSE you as the ignorant THUG we always knew you were.

. . . a walking, talking DISGRACE!!


Your contribution only expose your stupidity where you disseminate diarrhea through your mouth and your constipation ideas are in a lockdown mode......good for all concerned.

Now go such on a gander egg.

Find another way to cover up your filth & nakedness . . . you are INDECENT Sir!!
FM
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Now that this same constitutions falls in the hands, of the PPP/C, the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness........thus showing the PNC'a racialness in Guyana under a PPP/C government.

Guyana has come a far way, but the racialness expressed by APNU/PNC still exists today, and this will forever be entrenched within the PNC/APNU and their supporters.


dude...stop being an ass...coolie people are some of the most racist people you'll find..a black family wouldn't have a problem with their kid marrying an Indian...but is hell to pay if vice versa
FM
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Originally posted by raymond:
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Now that this same constitutions falls in the hands, of the PPP/C,


they sould have changed it...why didn't they?

Vengeance politics . . . many here are quite happy with it
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by redux:
quote:
Originally posted by asj:
. . . the negroes want to cause anarchy and lawlessness

GNI's esteemed 'moderator' . . .


Your contributions say nothing. You are irrelevant.

Nope, my contributions EXPOSE you as the ignorant THUG we always knew you were.

. . . a walking, talking DISGRACE!!


Your contribution only expose your stupidity where you disseminate diarrhea through your mouth and your constipation ideas are in a lockdown mode......good for all concerned.

Now go such on a gander egg.

Find another way to cover up your filth & nakedness . . . you are INDECENT Sir!!


There can be no other way to put you to your senses, to make you cognisant of the argument of the Racialness within the PNC, and hoodlum like you who would come here and support illegality of marches to intimidate others and put a spoke in the democratic process would seem to have no place in any society. All I can ask you is not to get insulted, becuase of your job to spread ignorance, it would be better if you say nothing, you are only putting a sprain on your brain.

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FM

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