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APNU+AFC coalition leaders meeting yesterday. From left are: APNU General Secretary Joseph Harmon, PNCR Chairman Volda Lawrence, Prime Minister and AFC elder statesman Moses Nagamootoo, Vice President and Minister of Foreign Affairs Carl Greenidge, AFC executive member, David Patterson, AFC Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan and PNCR General Secretary, Amna Ally. (APNU+AFC photo)

November 16 2018

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The leadership of A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and the Alliance For Change (AFC) met last  evening to discuss a number of matters and they said that their coalition remains united and strong.

“The leaders of the two parties jointly reaffirm that the Coalition remains united and strong.  Further the leadership celebrated the triumph of democracy in the efficient and successful holding of Local Government Elections, the second under the Coalition Government since it came to office in 2015. The leadership congratulates GECOM for the smooth and efficient manner in which these elections were held and acknowledged that GECOM has demonstrated its capacity to hold free, fair and credible elections”, a joint APNU+AFC release said.

No details were provided on the matters discussed.

Present at the meeting were Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo, Vice Presidents Carl Greenidge and Khemraj Ramjattan, PNCR Chairperson and Minister of Public Health Volda Lawrence, PNCR General Secretary and Minister of Social Protection Amna Ally, APNU Chairman and Minister of State Joseph Harmon and AFC executive member and Minister of Public Infrastructure David Patterson.

President David Granger

The meeting comes amid several major developments for the coalition and the country. The announcement on Wednesday that President David Granger has been diagnosed with Non Hodgkin Lymphoma in Cuba and is currently undergoing treatment will raise immediate questions about when he will return to Guyana and if he will be able to resume office then.

Based on the press release issued by the Guyana Embassy in Cuba on Wednesday, President Granger has had a surgical intervention and was scheduled to begin another course of treatment on Wednesday. That course of treatment was not identified in the press release but Stabroek News has been told that the President will be undergoing chemotherapy.

Both the surgical intervention and chemotherapy would be gruelling for the 73-year-old President and would leave him exhausted and vulnerable to infections. The President had been in an already weakened state when he journeyed to Havana on October 30. Several rounds of chemotherapy might be recommended and the intervals between them would depend on whether the President was in a state to endure them.

Sources say that if Granger  was unable to perform the functions of President then the Prime Minister would have to have an extended period carrying out those duties. It would raise questions over the longer term about when the President would resume and virtually rule out a run for a second term.

Sources added that given the nature of the governing coalition and the pre-eminence of the PNCR there is likely to be some tensions over the way forward and concern that the President’s absence could create a vacuum and further detain progress in many important areas including management of the economy and the oil and gas sector.

Also likely to be on the agenda of leaders of the coalition would have been yesterday’s surprise announcement by Leader of the Opposition, Bharrat Jagdeo that he has lodged a motion of no-confidence against the Granger administration which holds a razor-thin one-seat majority in Parliament. If the motion were put to the House it would only require one defection from the AFC’s 12 seats or someone from APNU to hand victory to the PPP/C and the government would collapse. It would be left to the Chief Whip of the coalition to marshal the governing MPs on that day and to be sure that they were all on board.

Despite the declaration of unity yesterday, the lodging of the motion comes at a time when APNU’s refusal of an accord with the AFC for Local Government Elections saw the latter being decimated in key areas on Monday such as Whim/Bloomfield and in Linden. APNU’s decision to force the AFC to contest alone has exposed the AFC and weakened it just at the time that APNU now needs it to enable stability in the government in the absence of President Granger and to stave off the PPP/C motion of no-confidence.

Given the circumstances, analysts suggest that the current conditions could strengthen the AFC’s hand in negotiating amendments to the Cummingsburg Accord for the 2020 general elections.

Both APNU and the AFC have been pilloried for failing to follow through with pledges in 2015 for constitutional reform. The AFC is seen as particularly vulnerable over this failure as constitutional reform had been one of the key planks of its campaign while in opposition. It is unclear if there will be determined movement on this front.

Observers say given all of the circumstances at the moment there could also be consideration of a Cabinet reshuffle. Which APNU official will have the ascendancy in the absence of President Granger is unclear although at one of the last rallies before local government elections on Monday, Minister of Foreign Affairs Carl Greenidge was given top billing.

APNU and AFC are to host a joint media conference today at 11am at Congress Place.

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This closing of ranks between PNC & AFC is one unintended consequence of Jagdeo's nonconfidence motion threat. It has elevated AFC to cherished status despite being "decimated" in the words of the report above. Normally no one wants a loser as a partner but PNC is now clinging to AFC to stave off Jagdeo's threat. And the AFC must be enjoying the unexpected coddling. That photo is revealing --- 4 PNC faces, none from the other APNU partners, coddling up with 3 AFC men. Coalition unity there? Hmmm.

FM
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

FM
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Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

Hope they act fast on hit. 

Mitwah
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

Mars
Mars posted:
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

That's a very high possibility. Would like to hear from Trotman and others.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Amna is one sexy lady.  What is that white stuff on the table?

Perhaps she is single and available. Anyway that white stuff is Sweetie.

Please don’t go there you will make Leonora jealous.

Bibi Haniffa
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Amna is one sexy lady.  What is that white stuff on the table?

They needed cocaine to consummate the "unity."

Not everything white is the white stuff.

Wait man, yuh really believe me?

FM
Mars posted:
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

If the AFC is that stupid, then they deserve to be kicked.  I hope they are in back channel communication with the PPP.  Remember Caribj said Trotman conspired with the PNC to undermine Nagamootoo.  Well two can play that game.  

If I had an opportunity to chat with Ramjattan, I would advise seek a deal with the PPP.  They are more trustworthy than the PNC!  He was always apprehensive about the PNC!!  The PNC could haul dem ass dah side!

FM
Baseman posted:
Mars posted:
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

If the AFC is that stupid, then they deserve to be kicked.  I hope they are in back channel communication with the PPP.  Remember Caribj said Trotman conspired with the PNC to undermine Nagamootoo.  Well two can play that game.  

If I had an opportunity to chat with Ramjattan, I would advise seek a deal with the PPP.  They are more trustworthy than the PNC!  He was always apprehensive about the PNC!!  The PNC could haul dem ass dah side!

I doubt Prak, will align currently with the PPP, maybe if Jagdeo fade away, there would be a change of mind.

Django
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Mars posted:
Baseman posted:

 

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

If the AFC is that stupid, then they deserve to be kicked.  I hope they are in back channel communication with the PPP.  Remember Caribj said Trotman conspired with the PNC to undermine Nagamootoo.  Well two can play that game.  

If I had an opportunity to chat with Ramjattan, I would advise seek a deal with the PPP.  They are more trustworthy than the PNC!  He was always apprehensive about the PNC!!  The PNC could haul dem ass dah side!

I doubt Prak, will align currently with the PPP, maybe if Jagdeo fade away, there would be a change of mind.

A good leader thinks beyond him/herself.  If that’s his criteria, they they are dead men walking.  Jagdeo ain’t look like he fading anywhere anytime soon!!  Live in reality not wonderland!!

FM

Musse dem bad minded hungry belly WPA bais who doan turn up foh vote. Jagdoe gat to pay Ogunseye nuff nuff money before de man organise wan anada east coast uprising. Hey hey hey...

FM
Django posted:

APNU+AFC leaders reaffirm coalition unity

APNU+AFC coalition leaders meeting yesterday. From left are: APNU General Secretary Joseph Harmon, PNCR Chairman Volda Lawrence, Prime Minister and AFC elder statesman Moses Nagamootoo, Vice President and Minister of Foreign Affairs Carl Greenidge, AFC executive member, David Patterson, AFC Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan and PNCR General Secretary, Amna Ally. (APNU+AFC photo)

November 16 2018,  Source

The leadership of A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and the Alliance For Change (AFC) met last  evening to discuss a number of matters and they said that their coalition remains united and strong.

Ramjattan ah laff as dem celebrate dee AFC yumongous suckkcess at the LGE heeleckshun.

FM
Mars posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Amna is one sexy lady.  What is that white stuff on the table?

Anna like she still got on she night gown. Is it in her home?

The woman put on her lingerie to swing Harmon head lil bit.

Bibi Haniffa
Baseman posted:
 A good leader thinks beyond him/herself.
Jagdeo ain’t look like he fading anywhere anytime soon!!  Live in reality not wonderland!!

Suh what will he stick around doing or want to become again ?

Django
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Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I agree with the analysts that AFC might be in a position of strength to renegotiate amendments to the Cummingsburgh Accord.

BJ move has thrown a lifeline to the AFC!  Nagamootoo should now squeeze their balls.  PNC are a treacherous bunch!!

This might help them with the no confidence motion but it isnt going to help them with the elections. Many voted for the coalition hoping that the AFC would control the PNC.  But the Coalition=PNC and everyone knows this.

FM
Mars posted:
 

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

Once they announce the date of elections do they need the AFC?  I would argue no because the AFC proved that it has no base.  If the PNC cannot galvanize voters on their own how can they win?  The electorate have a very different notion of what the Coalition stands for than they did in 2015.

FM
Baseman posted:
 

If the AFC is that stupid, then they deserve to be kicked.  I hope they are in back channel communication with the PPP.  Remember Caribj said Trotman conspired with the PNC to undermine Nagamootoo.  Well two can play that game.  

If I had an opportunity to chat with Ramjattan, I would advise seek a deal with the PPP.  They are more trustworthy than the PNC!  He was always apprehensive about the PNC!!  The PNC could haul dem ass dah side!

Trotman's position with the PNC is different from that of Nagamootoo and the PPP.  If Trotman rejoined the PNC you bet he will have some clout. Nagamootoo will be given rubber boots and told to clean out the drains in Whim.

FM
caribny posted:
Mars posted:
 

PNC will comply for now since they need the AFC. They’ll be kicked to the curb after all the hullabaloo is over until 2020 when they are needed again. 

Once they announce the date of elections do they need the AFC?  I would argue no because the AFC proved that it has no base.  If the PNC cannot galvanize voters on their own how can they win?  The electorate have a very different notion of what the Coalition stands for than they did in 2015.

Then the AFC should do a deal and back BJ in the no confidence vote.  What do they have to lose?  They have a narrow window!

FM
caribny posted:
Baseman posted:
 

If the AFC is that stupid, then they deserve to be kicked.  I hope they are in back channel communication with the PPP.  Remember Caribj said Trotman conspired with the PNC to undermine Nagamootoo.  Well two can play that game.  

If I had an opportunity to chat with Ramjattan, I would advise seek a deal with the PPP.  They are more trustworthy than the PNC!  He was always apprehensive about the PNC!!  The PNC could haul dem ass dah side!

Trotman's position with the PNC is different from that of Nagamootoo and the PPP.  If Trotman rejoined the PNC you bet he will have some clout. Nagamootoo will be given rubber boots and told to clean out the drains in Whim.

I saw Trotman in action. He has clout in the PNC even as an AFC member!

FM
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
 A good leader thinks beyond him/herself.
Jagdeo ain’t look like he fading anywhere anytime soon!!  Live in reality not wonderland!!

Suh what will he stick around doing or want to become again ?

Nagamootoo is recognized as AFC Elder Statesman. You don't recognize Jagdeo as PPP Elder Statesman? The Party wants him to "stick around" according to my trusted sources.

FM
Baseman posted:
 

Then the AFC should do a deal and back BJ in the no confidence vote.  What do they have to lose?  They have a narrow window!

All of the perks that they now get from being with APNU. The PPP definitely doesn't need or want them.  The PNC has use for them provided that the operate on terms set by the PNC.

Here is the reality. Race based voting suggests that most in the PNC will be in the opposition. Most of the AFC will be pushed out of gov't because the way it looks like the AFC has gone the way of the UF after the PPP gobbled them up and spat them out.  

FM
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Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
 A good leader thinks beyond him/herself.
Jagdeo ain’t look like he fading anywhere anytime soon!!  Live in reality not wonderland!!

Suh what will he stick around doing or want to become again ?

Nagamootoo is recognized as AFC Elder Statesman. You don't recognize Jagdeo as PPP Elder Statesman? The Party wants him to "stick around" according to my trusted sources.

No Problem with the elder stuff. 

What the party wants him to stick around doing what ?

Django
Baseman posted:
 

I saw Trotman in action. He has clout in the PNC even as an AFC member!

I saw that as soon as the elections were over.  Him and Granger meeting daily with Trotman advancing his agenda.  There was always friction between the GT and the Berbice factions of the AFC. Recall the squabble between Ramjattan and Trotman.

FM

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