Baramita considers rum ban

-Toshao bemoans lack of action on addressing village’s plight

As Baramita, in Region One, continues to grapple with the effects of widespread alcohol abuse, it is considering a ban on the sale of rum in the community, according to Toshao Sharmain Rambajue, who says that visits by high-ranking government officials to the community have largely failed to result in tangible action to address its problems.

Rambajue told Stabroek News yesterday that she can only recall one public meeting being held by the Inter-Ministerial Task Force, set up by government to address alcoholism, domestic violence, including sexual abuse, and teenage pregnancy, to hear the views of the community’s people.

The task force includes the Ministers of Indigenous Peoples’ Affairs, Communities, Social Protection, Public Security, Health, and Natural Resources. ….

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kpHonorary Member

R U M ruin unto man. Rum is easily available and cheap in Guyana. It is one of the common cause of broken marriage, suicide and poor education.

11/21/181:03 PM

Former Member

Like they learnt to become heavy drinkers from RUMjattan. Very troubling situation.

11/21/181:50 PM

Former Member

kp posted:
R U M ruin unto man.

Ow bhai, it's not rum per se. It's the ABUSE of rum that leads to domestic abuse and other social problems. Remember: Jesus used to drink alcohol in moderation. Look at a picture of the Last Supper. Jesus got a chalice containing alcoholic beverage. He made sure he took one for the cross.

11/21/182:03 PM

Former Member

Iggi Fuad Rahaman • 6 hours ago

This post pisses me off. There is a persistent cry in general that the government should curb crime, "so something about domestic violence", constitute "preventative strategies to suicide", be pro active with our crisis of rape, intervene with our 3000 girls who drop out of school every year, That undeniable reality flew over your professorial head when you are suggesting ignorantly that the people of this community should should seek solutions to their own problems without help.

What are their problems? It is rapacious outsiders who moved in for its resources installed themselves as "community" leaders and pillage the community of its resources. Were we rigidly cultural prohibitive to others and remained committed culturally to endogamos unions as others are in our society; this villainy of others with outsider allegiance would not dominate this community and turn it into the horrible morass of social decay it has become.

If the 2006 Amerind act defined the native peoples as wards of the state ( they are the only defined group according to a criteria set by the authorities) then they bloody well intervene and correct the awful decay of social mores in this community. This predatory family from the coast are directly responsible for the ruin of this community. Yes this family...greedy, perfidious, larcenous, contemptuous, malevolent and "blessed with every aspect of villainy" who ruined this community. They are the ones who brought in the filth. The salvation is that their off springs are now accepting Amerindian identity and culture and seeking a cure.

The PPP government failed to intervene when the Chinese loggers were leaving 11 years old pregnant in this community. Priya said she did not have the legal means to do anything...no surprise there. The PPP refused to intervene again when Barama bulldozed habitable areas in the community. This small community was helpless against the greed of outsiders for a long time. It is a microcosm of what happened to native peoples everywhere else on the planet but here it happened in the span of a mere 20 years.

I am of indian and Amerindian heritage and can move fluidly between the cultures. I see the bad of both and know the nasty underbelly of each intimately. But, here in this community, the worse failings of each flourished in unrestrained abandon. It needs government help to socially vaccinate the society and rehabilitate from the disease that has infected it because of neglect. Now you take you ignorant, self righteous contemptuous throwing of shade here and do some self examination. But then you would deflect and say the government is responsible. Well, government is necessary to rescue besieged communities. This one is in dire need of intervention

11/21/182:09 PM

Former Member

Stop peddling your prattle on SN over hey.

11/21/183:02 PM

Former Member

Drugb posted:
Stop peddling your prattle on SN over hey.

yo daddy own dis board..

11/21/183:12 PM

Former Member

kp posted:
R U M ruin unto man. Rum is easily available and cheap in Guyana. It is one of the common cause of broken marriage, suicide and poor education.

I read an article on substance abuse recently. Guyanese weren't the worst hard drug abusers in the Caribbean, that being Trinidad, Barbados and some of the smaller islands. This being based on surveys from around 5 years ago.

Where Guyana stands out is in binge drinking. Some Guyanese barely drink and others drink way too much. I suspect that this is in the interior Amerindian and in the rural Indian (Hindu?) populations. I bet that suicides also correlate with those populations as well.

11/21/183:21 PM

NehruBig Mouth Member

Afros go to Church, help humanity and care for the sick so they have no time for Rum

11/21/183:23 PM

Former Member

D2 posted:
Iggi Fuad Rahaman • 6 hours ago
It needs government help to socially vaccinate the society and rehabilitate from the disease that has infected it because of neglect.

Not gov't. This has to be civic society. Gov't can provide some level of support in the form of social workers, mental health professionals and money. But civil society needs to lead this effort.

Guyanese have to stop throwing themselves at the feet of politicians and understand that APOLITICAL organizations are best to solve certain problems. Or we have the normal PPP vs. PNC screams, with Jagdeo only helping Indians and then Harmon instigating blacks when this happens.

11/21/183:25 PM

kpHonorary Member

Gilbakka posted:
kp posted:
R U M ruin unto man.
Ow bhai, it's not rum per se. It's the ABUSE of rum that leads to domestic abuse and other social problems. Remember: Jesus used to drink alcohol in moderation. Look at a picture of the Last Supper. Jesus got a chalice containing alcoholic beverage. He made sure he took one for the cross.

I enjoy a good drink once in awhile, celebrated my birthday recently with a 25 years old ElDorado, my kids gave me.

11/21/184:21 PM

Former Member

caribny posted:
D2 posted:
Iggi Fuad Rahaman • 6 hours ago
It needs government help to socially vaccinate the society and rehabilitate from the disease that has infected it because of neglect.
Not gov't. This has to be civic society. Gov't can provide some level of support in the form of social workers, mental health professionals and money. But civil society needs to lead this effort.
Guyanese have to stop throwing themselves at the feet of politicians and understand that APOLITICAL organizations are best to solve certain problems. Or we have the normal PPP vs. PNC screams, with Jagdeo only helping Indians and then Harmon instigating blacks when this happens.

Amerind societies are communal societies that are highly managed and have ( when convenient like in Kaikan) entrenched government law enforcement personnel on site Here we have a rotten scoundrel from the coast coming in and infiltrating and perverting a small community. The government ought to have looked in because they implanted Barama in the area.

The chinese themselves left dozens of underage girls pregnant and the government knew this. Most of the men in the community were gone into the logging industry as outsiders came in and took advantage. What remains is a morass of social problem outside the control of this one girl and in need of direct government intervention. A small community, once thriving is preyed on by outsiders who swindle their gold, rape their women, and embed a system of complete discord ought to have government intervention.

Further, these communities while independent and self contained cannot constitute a police force of their own as is done in Amerind reservation The government forbade it. If they do then they need to be here. If these far flung regions cannot constitute their own legal structures then the government has to fill the gap. Unfortunately, as here also, the soldiers also take advantage and mass rape the kids so lacking government intervention this is a trapped and hostage community.

11/21/187:52 PM

Former Member

caribny posted:
kp posted:
R U M ruin unto man. Rum is easily available and cheap in Guyana. It is one of the common cause of broken marriage, suicide and poor education.
I read an article on substance abuse recently. Guyanese weren't the worst hard drug abusers in the Caribbean, that being Trinidad, Barbados and some of the smaller islands. This being based on surveys from around 5 years ago.
Where Guyana stands out is in binge drinking. Some Guyanese barely drink and others drink way too much. I suspect that this is in the interior Amerindian and in the rural Indian (Hindu?) populations. I bet that suicides also correlate with those populations as well.

Lots of speculating based on your biased observation. You are good at that, use your own "experiences" to denigrate an entire people.

11/21/187:57 PM

Bibi HaniffaGNI Queen

I thought Toshaos drank piwari.

11/21/188:08 PM

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Bibi Haniffa posted:
I thought Toshaos drank piwari.

you are just begging to be insulted. Sorry...I wont oblige this time.

11/21/188:50 PM

Former Member

Bibi Haniffa posted:
I thought Toshaos drank piwari.

If you could think!!!

11/28/1811:43 AM

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