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Much talk and little action in Bartica

JANUARY 23, 2014 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

Dear Editor,
There has been much talk and little action when it comes to managing the garbage situation in the little community of Bartica.
Our major dump site is located in an area of the community called Byderabo/Over-the-Creek. This is the area that the local authorities have selected to dump all the garbage that is collected from around the community. However, when the sanitary service in Bartica known as “General Sanitation” collects and dumps the garbage at the dump site, there is no further action to properly get rid of it.
The dump site has become so saturated that on a regular basis one can see the garbage truck(General Sanitation) dumping the garbage on the road side. As a result, cows, donkeys etc are harboured and cause traffic jams on the road. Not only is this area a public roadway and the only road to reach into Byderabo, but people also reside in this area. Children as well as working people traverse this road to go to school\work on a daily basis enduring the putrid stench of this garbage dump.
Is this healthy for the community as a whole? More so the residents of Byderabo. As the saying goes “he who feels it knows it.”
Every year Bartica hosts one of the biggest events held in the country; The Bartica Regatta, which as we know comprises various events that attract a lot of tourists from all parts of the world. Is this the way the community plans on boosting tourism in this region and the country as a whole with a garbage-filled environment, hence a garbage-filled country?
As a concerned citizen I am kindly asking for the local authorities to look into this matter. To find a healthy, satisfying and permanent solution to this problem that has existed in this community for too long. With that I leave you with these words; “the health of one’s community should be of prime concern.”
Concerned Citizen

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Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 

You are shyte.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 

you can go to Bartica and cut your goadee

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 

You are shyte.

Nice of you to support your brothers and sisters whilst they are in the gutter..

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 

You are shyte.

Nice of you to support your brothers and sisters whilst they are in the gutter..

You are shyte.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 

 

 

Aaah.  Druggie.  Getting your racist fix for the day I see.  Given that 95% of blacks vote APNU/AFC, along with the vast majority of the mixed voters, when you blame the supporters, and not the parties, this is code word for racist bashing.

 

 

I mean I can suggest that Indians are corrupt, simply because the party who 85% of them voted for last time is criminal in their graft. But I wouldn't do that as I leave such racist behavior to you.  Especially as every elections since 1997 has seen a decline in votes, suggesting that Indians more and more are abandoning that party.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 


* Well said Bgurd. That is the absolute truth you are preaching.

 

* Of course the truth will incense and infuriate the CUFFY LOVERS.

 

Rev

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Bartica is traditionally a PNC/AFC stronghold, hence the filth and garbage that comes along with the mindset of such supporters. They shyte where they live and are content with the pnc/afc mismanaging their city. 


Well said Bgurd. That is the absolute truth you are preaching.

 

Rev

You are a worthless piece of racist shyte like him.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 Aaah.  Druggie.  Getting your racist fix for the day I see.  Given that 95% of blacks vote APNU/AFC, along with the vast majority of the mixed voters, when you blame the supporters, and not the parties, this is code word for racist bashing.

 

 

I mean I can suggest that Indians are corrupt, simply because the party who 85% of them voted for last time is criminal in their graft. But I wouldn't do that as I leave such racist behavior to you.  Especially as every elections since 1997 has seen a decline in votes, suggesting that Indians more and more are abandoning that party.

You will read what you want to read in my words, but the fact remains that those supporting the afc/pnc coalition are indifferent to squalor. Look how Greene mismanage gT for years and yet PNC/AFC supporters don't raise one voice in criticism. You too belong to this group, but in your case it is understandable as you are accustomed to such squalor in your section 8 apartment in the US ghetto. 

 

The majority of Barticans, afc/pnc supporters, don't care about their environment and will litter without regard for the cleanliness of their surroundings. 

You will note that it was afc/pnc supporters who facilitated the escape of the killers in the aftermath of the Bartica massacre while the majority of those murdered were PPP supporters.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 Aaah.  Druggie.  Getting your racist fix for the day I see.  Given that 95% of blacks vote APNU/AFC, along with the vast majority of the mixed voters, when you blame the supporters, and not the parties, this is code word for racist bashing.

 

 

I mean I can suggest that Indians are corrupt, simply because the party who 85% of them voted for last time is criminal in their graft. But I wouldn't do that as I leave such racist behavior to you.  Especially as every elections since 1997 has seen a decline in votes, suggesting that Indians more and more are abandoning that party.

You will read what you want to read in my words, but the fact remains that those supporting the afc/pnc coalition are indifferent to squalor. Look how Greene mismanage gT for years and yet PNC/AFC supporters don't raise one voice in criticism. You too belong to this group, but in your case it is understandable as you are accustomed to such squalor in your section 8 apartment in the US ghetto. 

 

The majority of Barticans, afc/pnc supporters, don't care about their environment and will litter without regard for the cleanliness of their surroundings. 

You will note that it was afc/pnc supporters who facilitated the escape of the killers in the aftermath of the Bartica massacre while the majority of those murdered were PPP supporters.

I wonder if Green is responsible for the squalor of places like plastic city? One does not have to go far to see the squalor. It is pervasive.

 

Every village in the country exist without any centralized garbage collection. Most still have outdoors toilet and in the biannual rains one sees the constant flooding turning the place into a fecal soup. Tell your lies elsewhere.

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 Aaah.  Druggie.  Getting your racist fix for the day I see.  Given that 95% of blacks vote APNU/AFC, along with the vast majority of the mixed voters, when you blame the supporters, and not the parties, this is code word for racist bashing.

 

 

I mean I can suggest that Indians are corrupt, simply because the party who 85% of them voted for last time is criminal in their graft. But I wouldn't do that as I leave such racist behavior to you.  Especially as every elections since 1997 has seen a decline in votes, suggesting that Indians more and more are abandoning that party.

You will read what you want to read in my words, but the fact remains that those supporting the afc/pnc coalition are indifferent to squalor. Look how Greene mismanage gT for years and yet PNC/AFC supporters don't raise one voice in criticism. You too belong to this group, but in your case it is understandable as you are accustomed to such squalor in your section 8 apartment in the US ghetto. 

 

The majority of Barticans, afc/pnc supporters, don't care about their environment and will litter without regard for the cleanliness of their surroundings. 

You will note that it was afc/pnc supporters who facilitated the escape of the killers in the aftermath of the Bartica massacre while the majority of those murdered were PPP supporters.

I wonder if Green is responsible for the squalor of places like plastic city? One does not have to go far to see the squalor. It is pervasive.

 

Every village in the country exist without any centralized garbage collection. Most still have outdoors toilet and in the biannual rains one sees the constant flooding turning the place into a fecal soup. Tell your lies elsewhere.

 

 

Dummy, the same exist in the US where people in outlying areas have to burn their garbage. In fact in the US people pay heavy property taxes for their garbage disposal services.  Many cities also require residents to pay separately for their garbage to a private company. Ketch sense before you criticize. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 Aaah.  Druggie.  Getting your racist fix for the day I see.  Given that 95% of blacks vote APNU/AFC, along with the vast majority of the mixed voters, when you blame the supporters, and not the parties, this is code word for racist bashing.

 

 

I mean I can suggest that Indians are corrupt, simply because the party who 85% of them voted for last time is criminal in their graft. But I wouldn't do that as I leave such racist behavior to you.  Especially as every elections since 1997 has seen a decline in votes, suggesting that Indians more and more are abandoning that party.

You will read what you want to read in my words, but the fact remains that those supporting the afc/pnc coalition are indifferent to squalor. Look how Greene mismanage gT for years and yet PNC/AFC supporters don't raise one voice in criticism. You too belong to this group, but in your case it is understandable as you are accustomed to such squalor in your section 8 apartment in the US ghetto. 

 

The majority of Barticans, afc/pnc supporters, don't care about their environment and will litter without regard for the cleanliness of their surroundings. 

You will note that it was afc/pnc supporters who facilitated the escape of the killers in the aftermath of the Bartica massacre while the majority of those murdered were PPP supporters.

I wonder if Green is responsible for the squalor of places like plastic city? One does not have to go far to see the squalor. It is pervasive.

 

Every village in the country exist without any centralized garbage collection. Most still have outdoors toilet and in the biannual rains one sees the constant flooding turning the place into a fecal soup. Tell your lies elsewhere.

 

 

Dummy, the same exist in the US where people in outlying areas have to burn their garbage. In fact in the US people pay heavy property taxes for their garbage disposal services.  Many cities also require residents to pay separately for their garbage to a private company. Ketch sense before you criticize. 

There is a difference in the pervasive and the isolated instances of these events. Whatever your excuse the instances stated serves to make absurd your presumption that only AFC/APNU supporters are filthy. The absurdity of this notwithstanding the usual under-girding of racial prejudice, is the fact that the nation is lacking an guidance or input from the administration as to the proper processing of its garbage.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

There is a difference in the pervasive and the isolated instances of these events. Whatever your excuse the instances stated serves to make absurd your presumption that only AFC/APNU supporters are filthy. The absurdity of this notwithstanding the usual under-girding of racial prejudice, is the fact that the nation is lacking an guidance or input from the administration as to the proper processing of its garbage.

Dummy, garbage disposal is not a central govt function but rather a local issue. Each municipality is responsible for implementing a garbage disposal strategy adhering to state and federal mandates. Most towns are now requiring private disposal, thus removing the burden from local govt and making the individual citizens responsible. Each home owner has to show evidence that they are in contract with a private garbage disposal entity. Hence the rise of Waste Management and other garbage processors in the US.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

There is a difference in the pervasive and the isolated instances of these events. Whatever your excuse the instances stated serves to make absurd your presumption that only AFC/APNU supporters are filthy. The absurdity of this notwithstanding the usual under-girding of racial prejudice, is the fact that the nation is lacking an guidance or input from the administration as to the proper processing of its garbage.

Dummy, garbage disposal is not a central govt function but rather a local issue. Each municipality is responsible for implementing a garbage disposal strategy adhering to state and federal mandates. Most towns are now requiring private disposal, thus removing the burden from local govt and making the individual citizens responsible. Each home owner has to show evidence that they are in contract with a private garbage disposal entity. Hence the rise of Waste Management and other garbage processors in the US.

to the government is delegated the administration of any social service that can be centrally planned. Most towns are able to boot strap such services because there are mandated dump sites with the necessary ecological provisions and the regulations that govern such enterprises. 

 

That you see this as separate from the provision of guidelines for health services speaks to puny minds. Gratuitously excusing the PPP for the pervasive squalor of our society is disgusting. It is no different than  excusing India'a administration for its lack of guidance in planning cities minus a provision for sewer systems.

 

Every literature on the subject, read "The Upside-down Tree The Upside-down Tree, India’s Changing Culture by Richard Connerney" for instance; it speaks to this as a terrible health administration neglect. It is   the primary reason why some 60% of Indians never saw a toilet. At least we in Guyana abstracted what the British taught us; did a pit.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

to the government is delegated the administration of any social service that can be centrally planned. Most towns are able to boot strap such services because there are mandated dump sites with the necessary ecological provisions and the regulations that govern such enterprises. 

 

That you see this as separate from the provision of guidelines for health services speaks to puny minds. Gratuitously excusing the PPP for the pervasive squalor of our society is disgusting. It is no different than  excusing India'a administration for its lack of guidance in planning cities minus a provision for sewer systems.

 

Every literature on the subject, read "The Upside-down Tree The Upside-down Tree, India’s Changing Culture by Richard Connerney" for instance; it speaks to this as a terrible health administration neglect. It is   the primary reason why some 60% of Indians never saw a toilet. At least we in Guyana abstracted what the British taught us; did a pit.

I excuse no one, everyone is responsible for their own garbage. The responsibility of garbage disposal must at the local level rather than looking to central govt. You yourself at one point was arguing for more autonomy at the local level. Now it looks like you twist your mouth when it is opportune for political purposes. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

to the government is delegated the administration of any social service that can be centrally planned. Most towns are able to boot strap such services because there are mandated dump sites with the necessary ecological provisions and the regulations that govern such enterprises. 

 

That you see this as separate from the provision of guidelines for health services speaks to puny minds. Gratuitously excusing the PPP for the pervasive squalor of our society is disgusting. It is no different than  excusing India'a administration for its lack of guidance in planning cities minus a provision for sewer systems.

 

Every literature on the subject, read "The Upside-down Tree The Upside-down Tree, India’s Changing Culture by Richard Connerney" for instance; it speaks to this as a terrible health administration neglect. It is   the primary reason why some 60% of Indians never saw a toilet. At least we in Guyana abstracted what the British taught us; did a pit.

I excuse no one, everyone is responsible for their own garbage. The responsibility of garbage disposal must at the local level rather than looking to central govt. You yourself at one point was arguing for more autonomy at the local level. Now it looks like you twist your mouth when it is opportune for political purposes. 

Indeed it should be a responsibility at the local level with regulations and guidelines in place from the central authority.However, local authorities are denied the responsibility for localized infrastructural planning since the minister of local government takes that upon himself. The idea of only advise and council is not a role the PPP wants. They want to delegate how the money is spent.

 

The reason the local government bill was stalled in parliament was due to the objection of the PPP to relinquish its stranglehold of central management of local authorities. They cannot build a stand pipe or a bridge without a puja at the feet of the minister. No wonder that ugly ass with the heart of coal was asked to demit office as his perfidy caught up with him. 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

I excuse no one, everyone is responsible for their own garbage. The responsibility of garbage disposal must at the local level rather than looking to central govt. . 

 

Mitwah
Last edited by Mitwah

There is a major garbage problem in Bartica.  WE NOT VOTING PPP

 

Dear Editor,
There will be a serious outbreak of disease of some sort if no attention is paid to the Bartica garbage dumpsite. The present dumpsite is over-filled with garbage. Garbage is now dumped on the Public Road, and cars, trucks and pedestrians have to plough through it to pass. As for the stench, I feel sorry for the residents and schoolchildren around that area. The Bartica NDC doesn’t seem to care a damn, and we, the residents, are calling on the Minister of Local Government to intervene. There is equipment with rubber wheels up here that could assist by pushing the garbage, but their tyres would get damaged. We need a bulldozer with metal tracks or a frontend loader. There are mischievous people who are trying to make things look bad all because of elections, so please, whoever this may concern, Bartica is sending an SOS about garbage now.

The police are doing a really fine job during this election period. They are responding to calls and reports; it is good to know that our community is safe.
It is very congested in First and Second Avenues. We have lots of vehicles and it is difficult to drive. First and Second Avenues should be one-ways.
Yours faithfully,
Winston Miller Sr


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FM

Is Bartica the capital of garbage?

Posted By Staff Writer On January 30, 2014 @ 5:02 am In Letters | No Comments

Dear Editor,

Dr Cheddi Jagan some time in the late ’50s started a road from Parika to Makouria. The contact was awarded to the Del Conte Company from Venezuela. The road was surveyed, lines were cut and construction was in progress, and suddenly this project came to a halt until today.

Then after Dr Jagan came Mr Forbes Burnham, who built the Soesdyke-Linden highway and the Demerara Harbour Bridge. This road and bridge still serve the Guyanese public. Then came Mr Desmond Hoyte who made Guyanese life much easier by lifting the ban on essential food items, etc. After that it was Mr Bharrat Jagdeo who built the Berbice River Bridge.

We are now calling on our present President Donald Ramotar to fulfil Dr Jagan’s dreams, and finish what he started, ie, continue the Parika-Makouria road. The old trail is still there to build a laterite road. In addition rebuild the Makouria Stelling and have a ferry Service from Makouria to Bartica. Far more commuters will use this shorter journey to the interior. Mining, quarrying and timber will benefit from this new venture.

Now let me mention Bartica, which is a wonderful place where tourism could flourish, were it not for the reckless dumping of garbage on the Byderabo road and around Bartica. It may seem that no one can control this situation. Is Bartica the capital of garbage in Guyana? I do hope the authorities take this matter seriously, because a serious epidemic could break out in Bartica and many people could get sick, especially children.

Yours faithfully, 
Winston Miller


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FM

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What the people of Bartica say about…

Posted By Staff Writer On October 31, 2011 @ 5:01 am In What the People Say | No Comments

This week we asked residents of Bartica to share with us concerns and views about their township.

Photos and interviews 
by Marcelle Thomas

Holbert Knights – Teacher
‘In Bartica there is much going on especially now that the political campaign season is on. The politicians come to Bartica and everyone makes big promises campaigning on youth development because they know that is what Barticians want to hear. However over the 19 years that the incumbent PPP/C has been in power there has been nothing significant to say or show that they have done for the youths and I am vexed. Now the irony too is that everyone is talking youths and none is on the platform and even if they do none will be from Bartica. I think Bartica needs an excellent strategic youth development programme that will look at education and the overall development of our youths. Most party and see the mining life as their career. Internal and external examination results are atrocious.’

Stephen Belle- Hotelier
‘Bartica has developed tremendously over the years. However I think with that development came many vehicles and it is congested in first and second avenues which is the main business area in Bartica.  I think that the roads should be made one way in opposite directions to ease on the buildup. Also sanitation needs to be looked at there has to be some sanitation management. The dump is right near to a booming housing development scheme so it should be moved from just a stone’s throw from people’s homes. There is no youth and sport development also so that needs development in an effort to reduce policing work due to possible criminal acts that might lean towards not having anything to do. The power station too was built at a time when the output was less, now it’s in the heart of Bartica the commercial area and the noise and pollutants coming from there is hazardous.’

Elizabeth Wilkinson- Businesswoman
‘Garbage is my biggest problem. It begins from here at the arcade. The sellers from Parika come and use the place and leave all their rubbish. No one cleans here. When they hear the president coming everybody run and cleaning like mad. Well I will tell them, president or not, from tomorrow everyone will have to clean their rubbish because it seems only the president people have respect for. I don’t care if me and them get it out. We also need better roads here. The roads small, well some I will call a dam cause some wash away. If we don’t get roads now when will we get it?’

Christopher George:  Self Employed
`A major problem in Bartica is the dumpsite. It is in a terrible state. Traversing by transportation it’s a hindrance. Animals like the cows and so go in and pull the rubbish out to the road. Nothing seems to be doing we have been complaining a long time. Two, the roads in Bartica are terrible. Potholes galore in some and all we get are promises to fix them. We don’t want promises we want changes. Another humbug is the traffic congestion in First and Second Avenue. I think they should make them one way roads. Officials in charge have to remember that Bartica then isn’t Bartica now.  Everyone owns a vehicle here and sometimes it’s best just to walk.’

Ron Ghanie – Public Servant Employee
‘In Bartica the road from One Mile to the secondary school stretch is in a state and needs addressing urgently. The garbage situation is getting worse and worse and it would be nice if it can be fixed. In house little things we can fix ourselves and we have because we always hear that funds are limited but with the bigger things we need help’.

Elroy Joe Roads – Self Employed
‘We need roads. One should take a look around. They would be shocked to know that the quarry is so near and that’s the condition of our roads. It’s shameful. Another issue is the GPL power station. It is in the middle of the busiest shopping and business area on First Avenue and should be moved. That needs to be addressed urgently or people will become sick. Water in Bartica is also a problem not only the flow but the quality. You can’t think once about using it for drinking. It is full of sediments, it brown. This is because there is no proper water purification and filtration system. Youths too need to be looked at. I feel troubled for the youths they need something to do.’

Rosina Charles- Housewife

‘Where I am from in Bartica there is no water and the roads horrible. I have to fetch water into where I live and it tires me out and the colour like creek water but it is from the pipe. I want them to look into the condition of the roads. They should also look into having a school bus for children who have to travel long distances to school. The children of parents like me who don’t have a vehicle suffer waiting on the bus because they feel that everyone has a car and my children end up late many days. They should also check the garbage on the road that smelling stink. They have to control that dump nothing is being done and it could get the people sick when the rainy season begins.’

Candace Weekes- Businesswoman
`The Hospital in Bartica needs up-to-date equipment. It needs development. If there is any emergency you have to go to town. When my children get sick I have to travel all the way to town. The nurses are good but they don’t have the equipment they need. Simple things like oxygen you have to travel all the way to Georgetown for. Everything else to me is okay everyone lives loving and all is well.’

Chelsea Loncke- Self Employed
`I am a youth and I think that youth issues need addressing. There isn’t much for youths to do here even after school. There are many promises of youth development but nothing seems to be coming forthright. Also the issue of roads here, when the President comes they don’t drive him by the bad road you know, they drive him on the good road. We need the road especially at Four Miles to be developed. The water too is a problem you can’t even wash black clothes some days how it so dirty. Solid waste management is also an issue and the dumpsite is evidence of this. It is a health epidemic waiting to happen’.

Alden Marslowe -Photographer
‘Whoever is in government at whatever time needs to look at youth development in Bartica. We heard about trades schools, playfields and others developmental areas and yet we don’t see anything. I feel as if at election time everyone comes and makes promises, it’s the usual rhetoric. Looking after the needs of the people we feel left out. We don’t want to see their faces but if the people on the ground here can represent us we would feel good. That too isn’t done.’


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