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Berbice Bridge “is not in any imminent danger of collapsing” but company must find money for maintaining pontoons- Public Infrastructure Minister

 

The Berbice Bridge (photo taken from quazoo.com)

The Berbice River Bridge is safe to cross, although the pontoons on which that transportation link floats have not been serviced for several years because that privately-owned company has apparently done nothing to raise a minimum GY$150 million required for servicing, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson says.

“The bridge is not in any imminent danger of collapsing but what is happening is they need to have a maintenance programme,” he said. The pontoons should have been serviced every three years, but since 2007 when they were due for their first maintenance, he said nothing has been done.

“It is not facing imminent collapse because they (Demerara Harbour Bridge engineers) would have done the inspections…but they are way overdue for servicing,” he said. The inspections, he said, were done about three or four months ago- late last year followed by a report containing observations and recommendations.

He said not all of the pontoons were inspected, but only those that were placed in the river first.

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity. Patterson said instead of taking the initiative to raise money, the Bridge has been using public sentiment and fears to try to raise money. “They can borrow because they have guaranteed revenue…If they are unwilling to do that, the Minister of Finance, when the thing came, he said to me float it, the public will buy and take shares in it, the government probably would even buy shares in the company…But it’s irresponsible to not do anything and use the fears of the commuters to try to leverage financing,” he said.

The Public Infrastructure Minister said the company could raise funds  for its operations by obtaining a loan or selling shares privately or publicly to the government. “The Berbice Bridge is a private organisation and they have various ways in which they can raise funds,” he said.

Providing the Berbice Bridge Company gets the funds, Patterson said each of the 39 pontoons could be moved to a dry dock in Georgetown and then towed back to Berbice. The Demerara Harbour Bridge, he recalled, had last year recommended to the Berbice Bridge Company that it secure land in Berbice where a dry-dock could be built to repair the pontoons.

Patterson said the Berbice Bridge had made no provision “whatsoever” for the maintenance of the 39 pontoons which could take at least six months depending on the distance they have to be taken. The company only has one replacement pontoon which itself needs servicing before it can be used because it has also been in the water for a for several years.

The Minister said there is little the government could do because the Bridge Company insists that it is privately-owned. “Every time the government has sought to intervene in the company, they make it quite clear that this is a private company. You remember when we were trying to lower the fares, they said you can’t interfere,” the minister said.

Engineer, Bert Carter, who was a Berbice Bridge director, has said that although none of the shareholders got dividends because the bridge never made a profit, government’s National Insurance Scheme (NIS), which invested in GY$950 million in preferred bonds,  has since recouped that investment in December 2015  plus another GY$500 million.

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Mars posted:

Berbice Bridge “is not in any imminent danger of collapsing” but company must find money for maintaining pontoons- Public Infrastructure Minister

 

The Berbice Bridge (photo taken from quazoo.com)

The Berbice River Bridge is safe to cross, although the pontoons on which that transportation link floats have not been serviced for several years because that privately-owned company has apparently done nothing to raise a minimum GY$150 million required for servicing, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson says.

“The bridge is not in any imminent danger of collapsing but what is happening is they need to have a maintenance programme,” he said. The pontoons should have been serviced every three years, but since 2007 when they were due for their first maintenance, he said nothing has been done.

“It is not facing imminent collapse because they (Demerara Harbour Bridge engineers) would have done the inspections…but they are way overdue for servicing,” he said. The inspections, he said, were done about three or four months ago- late last year followed by a report containing observations and recommendations.

He said not all of the pontoons were inspected, but only those that were placed in the river first.

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity. Patterson said instead of taking the initiative to raise money, the Bridge has been using public sentiment and fears to try to raise money. “They can borrow because they have guaranteed revenue…If they are unwilling to do that, the Minister of Finance, when the thing came, he said to me float it, the public will buy and take shares in it, the government probably would even buy shares in the company…But it’s irresponsible to not do anything and use the fears of the commuters to try to leverage financing,” he said.

The Public Infrastructure Minister said the company could raise funds  for its operations by obtaining a loan or selling shares privately or publicly to the government. “The Berbice Bridge is a private organisation and they have various ways in which they can raise funds,” he said.

Providing the Berbice Bridge Company gets the funds, Patterson said each of the 39 pontoons could be moved to a dry dock in Georgetown and then towed back to Berbice. The Demerara Harbour Bridge, he recalled, had last year recommended to the Berbice Bridge Company that it secure land in Berbice where a dry-dock could be built to repair the pontoons.

Patterson said the Berbice Bridge had made no provision “whatsoever” for the maintenance of the 39 pontoons which could take at least six months depending on the distance they have to be taken. The company only has one replacement pontoon which itself needs servicing before it can be used because it has also been in the water for a for several years.

The Minister said there is little the government could do because the Bridge Company insists that it is privately-owned. “Every time the government has sought to intervene in the company, they make it quite clear that this is a private company. You remember when we were trying to lower the fares, they said you can’t interfere,” the minister said.

Engineer, Bert Carter, who was a Berbice Bridge director, has said that although none of the shareholders got dividends because the bridge never made a profit, government’s National Insurance Scheme (NIS), which invested in GY$950 million in preferred bonds,  has since recouped that investment in December 2015  plus another GY$500 million.

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Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity..........so private entities are exempt from their responsibilities towards the safety of the public? What an idiot.

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
Mars posted:

Berbice Bridge “is not in any imminent danger of collapsing” but company must find money for maintaining pontoons- Public Infrastructure Minister

 

The Berbice Bridge (photo taken from quazoo.com)

The Berbice River Bridge is safe to cross, although the pontoons on which that transportation link floats have not been serviced for several years because that privately-owned company has apparently done nothing to raise a minimum GY$150 million required for servicing, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson says.

“The bridge is not in any imminent danger of collapsing but what is happening is they need to have a maintenance programme,” he said. The pontoons should have been serviced every three years, but since 2007 when they were due for their first maintenance, he said nothing has been done.

“It is not facing imminent collapse because they (Demerara Harbour Bridge engineers) would have done the inspections…but they are way overdue for servicing,” he said. The inspections, he said, were done about three or four months ago- late last year followed by a report containing observations and recommendations.

He said not all of the pontoons were inspected, but only those that were placed in the river first.

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity. Patterson said instead of taking the initiative to raise money, the Bridge has been using public sentiment and fears to try to raise money. “They can borrow because they have guaranteed revenue…If they are unwilling to do that, the Minister of Finance, when the thing came, he said to me float it, the public will buy and take shares in it, the government probably would even buy shares in the company…But it’s irresponsible to not do anything and use the fears of the commuters to try to leverage financing,” he said.

The Public Infrastructure Minister said the company could raise funds  for its operations by obtaining a loan or selling shares privately or publicly to the government. “The Berbice Bridge is a private organisation and they have various ways in which they can raise funds,” he said.

Providing the Berbice Bridge Company gets the funds, Patterson said each of the 39 pontoons could be moved to a dry dock in Georgetown and then towed back to Berbice. The Demerara Harbour Bridge, he recalled, had last year recommended to the Berbice Bridge Company that it secure land in Berbice where a dry-dock could be built to repair the pontoons.

Patterson said the Berbice Bridge had made no provision “whatsoever” for the maintenance of the 39 pontoons which could take at least six months depending on the distance they have to be taken. The company only has one replacement pontoon which itself needs servicing before it can be used because it has also been in the water for a for several years.

The Minister said there is little the government could do because the Bridge Company insists that it is privately-owned. “Every time the government has sought to intervene in the company, they make it quite clear that this is a private company. You remember when we were trying to lower the fares, they said you can’t interfere,” the minister said.

Engineer, Bert Carter, who was a Berbice Bridge director, has said that although none of the shareholders got dividends because the bridge never made a profit, government’s National Insurance Scheme (NIS), which invested in GY$950 million in preferred bonds,  has since recouped that investment in December 2015  plus another GY$500 million.

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Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity..........so private entities are exempt from their responsibilities towards the safety of the public? What an idiot.

That classmate of yours turned out to be an idiot indeed.  And a soup drinker.  

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
GTAngler posted:
Mars posted:

Berbice Bridge “is not in any imminent danger of collapsing” but company must find money for maintaining pontoons- Public Infrastructure Minister

 

The Berbice Bridge (photo taken from quazoo.com)

The Berbice River Bridge is safe to cross, although the pontoons on which that transportation link floats have not been serviced for several years because that privately-owned company has apparently done nothing to raise a minimum GY$150 million required for servicing, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson says.

“The bridge is not in any imminent danger of collapsing but what is happening is they need to have a maintenance programme,” he said. The pontoons should have been serviced every three years, but since 2007 when they were due for their first maintenance, he said nothing has been done.

“It is not facing imminent collapse because they (Demerara Harbour Bridge engineers) would have done the inspections…but they are way overdue for servicing,” he said. The inspections, he said, were done about three or four months ago- late last year followed by a report containing observations and recommendations.

He said not all of the pontoons were inspected, but only those that were placed in the river first.

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity. Patterson said instead of taking the initiative to raise money, the Bridge has been using public sentiment and fears to try to raise money. “They can borrow because they have guaranteed revenue…If they are unwilling to do that, the Minister of Finance, when the thing came, he said to me float it, the public will buy and take shares in it, the government probably would even buy shares in the company…But it’s irresponsible to not do anything and use the fears of the commuters to try to leverage financing,” he said.

The Public Infrastructure Minister said the company could raise funds  for its operations by obtaining a loan or selling shares privately or publicly to the government. “The Berbice Bridge is a private organisation and they have various ways in which they can raise funds,” he said.

Providing the Berbice Bridge Company gets the funds, Patterson said each of the 39 pontoons could be moved to a dry dock in Georgetown and then towed back to Berbice. The Demerara Harbour Bridge, he recalled, had last year recommended to the Berbice Bridge Company that it secure land in Berbice where a dry-dock could be built to repair the pontoons.

Patterson said the Berbice Bridge had made no provision “whatsoever” for the maintenance of the 39 pontoons which could take at least six months depending on the distance they have to be taken. The company only has one replacement pontoon which itself needs servicing before it can be used because it has also been in the water for a for several years.

The Minister said there is little the government could do because the Bridge Company insists that it is privately-owned. “Every time the government has sought to intervene in the company, they make it quite clear that this is a private company. You remember when we were trying to lower the fares, they said you can’t interfere,” the minister said.

Engineer, Bert Carter, who was a Berbice Bridge director, has said that although none of the shareholders got dividends because the bridge never made a profit, government’s National Insurance Scheme (NIS), which invested in GY$950 million in preferred bonds,  has since recouped that investment in December 2015  plus another GY$500 million.

http://demerarawaves.com/2018/...astructure-minister/

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity..........so private entities are exempt from their responsibilities towards the safety of the public? What an idiot.

That classmate of yours turned out to be an idiot indeed.  And a soup drinker.  

Same set maybe but not in the same class.

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
GTAngler posted:
Mars posted:

Berbice Bridge “is not in any imminent danger of collapsing” but company must find money for maintaining pontoons- Public Infrastructure Minister

 

The Berbice Bridge (photo taken from quazoo.com)

The Berbice River Bridge is safe to cross, although the pontoons on which that transportation link floats have not been serviced for several years because that privately-owned company has apparently done nothing to raise a minimum GY$150 million required for servicing, Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson says.

“The bridge is not in any imminent danger of collapsing but what is happening is they need to have a maintenance programme,” he said. The pontoons should have been serviced every three years, but since 2007 when they were due for their first maintenance, he said nothing has been done.

“It is not facing imminent collapse because they (Demerara Harbour Bridge engineers) would have done the inspections…but they are way overdue for servicing,” he said. The inspections, he said, were done about three or four months ago- late last year followed by a report containing observations and recommendations.

He said not all of the pontoons were inspected, but only those that were placed in the river first.

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity. Patterson said instead of taking the initiative to raise money, the Bridge has been using public sentiment and fears to try to raise money. “They can borrow because they have guaranteed revenue…If they are unwilling to do that, the Minister of Finance, when the thing came, he said to me float it, the public will buy and take shares in it, the government probably would even buy shares in the company…But it’s irresponsible to not do anything and use the fears of the commuters to try to leverage financing,” he said.

The Public Infrastructure Minister said the company could raise funds  for its operations by obtaining a loan or selling shares privately or publicly to the government. “The Berbice Bridge is a private organisation and they have various ways in which they can raise funds,” he said.

Providing the Berbice Bridge Company gets the funds, Patterson said each of the 39 pontoons could be moved to a dry dock in Georgetown and then towed back to Berbice. The Demerara Harbour Bridge, he recalled, had last year recommended to the Berbice Bridge Company that it secure land in Berbice where a dry-dock could be built to repair the pontoons.

Patterson said the Berbice Bridge had made no provision “whatsoever” for the maintenance of the 39 pontoons which could take at least six months depending on the distance they have to be taken. The company only has one replacement pontoon which itself needs servicing before it can be used because it has also been in the water for a for several years.

The Minister said there is little the government could do because the Bridge Company insists that it is privately-owned. “Every time the government has sought to intervene in the company, they make it quite clear that this is a private company. You remember when we were trying to lower the fares, they said you can’t interfere,” the minister said.

Engineer, Bert Carter, who was a Berbice Bridge director, has said that although none of the shareholders got dividends because the bridge never made a profit, government’s National Insurance Scheme (NIS), which invested in GY$950 million in preferred bonds,  has since recouped that investment in December 2015  plus another GY$500 million.

http://demerarawaves.com/2018/...astructure-minister/

Chairman of the Berbice Bridge Committee, Dr. Surendra Persaud has already refused to speak on the issue, saying that the Berbice Bridge Company is a private entity..........so private entities are exempt from their responsibilities towards the safety of the public? What an idiot.

That classmate of yours turned out to be an idiot indeed.  And a soup drinker.  

Same set maybe but not in the same class.

Same year.

Bibi Haniffa

Quit the bitching and fix the damn bridge. The PNC have unleashed their wrath against the Berbicians already. Why are they planning to unleash more hardships on these people? Do they want to wipe out the coolies in Berbice?

FM

The PNC was humiliated in 1992 when the new government began exposing all the dirt in their government.  Over the last three years the PNC has been busy trying to do the same to them.  The PNC wants us to believe that the PPP's 23 years in government was worse than their 28 years in government.  All these negative reports on the projects undertaken under the watch of the PPP is meant to blacken their enemy's image.  Now the backlash on the PNC has already commenced with scandals and scandals being exposed. The failure of the government to keep the economy growing at a respectable pace and the shameful increase in taxes have made the population very uncomfortable. The PNC is gambling and gamblers at some point loses.

Billy Ram Balgobin

Let us not forget that the AFC/PNC made the Berbice Bridge as part of their election platform. They suddenly made a 360. These chaps are one of the most shameless bunch of politicians.

They need to remember that they will have to face the people in 2020.

That bridge would have been fixed if it was in a PNC stronghold.

What is Moses and Ramjattan doing about fighting for Berbicians ?

FM
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that the AFC/PNC made the Berbice Bridge as part of their election platform. They suddenly made a 360. These chaps are one of the most shameless bunch of politicians.

They need to remember that they will have to face the people in 2020.

That bridge would have been fixed if it was in a PNC stronghold.

What is Moses and Ramjattan doing about fighting for Berbicians ?

Moses is a heart patient with no heart. Ramjattan is a visionary with spectacles and eyes focused in the wrong direction. These chaps can fool you easily if you are not keen.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Prashad posted:

This Paterson like he got cockeye. Service the pontoons.

Absolutely. If it needs fixing, fix it.  If the private company whose responsibility it was to do the maintenance and whom has been collecting the tolls won't do what they're responsible for, let the government fix it, take it from them and either sell it or continue to run it.

GTAngler
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that the AFC/PNC made the Berbice Bridge as part of their election platform. They suddenly made a 360. These chaps are one of the most shameless bunch of politicians.

They need to remember that they will have to face the people in 2020.

That bridge would have been fixed if it was in a PNC stronghold.

What is Moses and Ramjattan doing about fighting for Berbicians ?

You think Grainger stupid? He knows there is absolutely nothing PNC can do to make Berbice coolies vote against PPP so they can go to hell for all he cares. No amount of  Jagabaat racist bile to Baba John crowd will make any difference to get votes 39% coolie votes to 51% needed to win either. You should  check out what Granger is doing for them buck people Lethem and North west to make up his number. 

sachin_05
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yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that the AFC/PNC made the Berbice Bridge as part of their election platform. They suddenly made a 360. These chaps are one of the most shameless bunch of politicians.

They need to remember that they will have to face the people in 2020.

That bridge would have been fixed if it was in a PNC stronghold.

What is Moses and Ramjattan doing about fighting for Berbicians ?

Last time I checked, that bridge was owned by a private entity. I don't see anybody going after them to fix the bridge. They're the ones collecting the tolls and it's the government's responsibility? I saw another poster saying this was the government getting at the berbicians. How so since they don't own the bridge?

GTAngler
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It's good that you checked. Then like a few other foolish Guyanese people, you bought, lot, stock and barrel into the BS that the AFC and PNC were peddling about the Berbice Bridge at the last election.

I guess they could have sold people like you the Berbice Bridge during the last election.

Ha Ha !!!!

FM
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GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that the AFC/PNC made the Berbice Bridge as part of their election platform. They suddenly made a 360. These chaps are one of the most shameless bunch of politicians.

They need to remember that they will have to face the people in 2020.

That bridge would have been fixed if it was in a PNC stronghold.

What is Moses and Ramjattan doing about fighting for Berbicians ?

Last time I checked, that bridge was owned by a private entity. I don't see anybody going after them to fix the bridge. They're the ones collecting the tools and it the government's responsibility? I saw another poster saying this was the government getting at the berbicians. How so since they don't own the bridge?

The PPP cronies who owned it will deliberately let it float away then blame the government but it doesn't matter if Berbicians believe or not it would not take away votes from the ppp... 

sachin_05
yuji22 posted:

It's good that you checked. Then like a few other foolish Guyanese people, you bought, lot, stock and barrel into the BS that the AFC and PNC were peddling about the Berbice Bridge at the last election.

I guess they could have sold people like you the Berbice Bridge during the last election.

Ha Ha !!!!

You're the last person who should use the foolish to describe any body. Show me any country in the world where it's the Government's responsibility to fulfil the obligations of private companies. By the way, we're not talking about ANC and PNC and the last elections. We're talking about a bridge that needs maintenance and whose responsibility it is. Their chairman has already refused to discuss the situation so why don't you tell me whose responsibility it is?

GTAngler

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

Obviously you haven't taken your meds this morning. First of all I don't give a rat's ass about either party. What does any of the above have to do with fixing the bridge? I asked a question about responsibility for fixing the bridge. Either answer it or keep quiet.

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

Obviously you haven't taken your meds this morning. First of all I don't give a rat's ass about either party. What does any of the above have to do with fixing the bridge? I asked a question about responsibility for fixing the bridge. Either answer it or keep quiet.

You are the one off your meds.

You and many others here at GNI try to peddle the same old BS that you don't support any party. Well your posts reflect otherwise and the people ain't buying your BS.

On topic, I was clearly stating that the foolish people who were conned by the AFC/PNC during the last election that they were going to "fix" the Berbice Bridge and reduce tolls and so many other BS promises.

You sir, need to take you meds and prove your claims. How about holding the PNC accountable for their lies ? That would be a honest and good start. 

The fact remains that the AFC/PNC lied to Guyanese about the Berbice Bridge with their false promises. We can start to address the issue of maintenance after we address your scampishness of the AFC/PNC about Bridge Repairs and the lies and false promises.

BTW, the Bridge was maintained during the PPP era and is now due for additional maintenance. The PPP held the owners accountable. How the PNC doing the same ?

This PNC government lied to Guyanese and they need to be held accountable. Your hypocrisy needs to be addressed. How about being honest and transparent for once ?

If this bridge was in a PNC stronghold, it would have been repaired a long time ago.

Calling a spade a spade.

FM
yuji22 posted:
GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

Obviously you haven't taken your meds this morning. First of all I don't give a rat's ass about either party. What does any of the above have to do with fixing the bridge? I asked a question about responsibility for fixing the bridge. Either answer it or keep quiet.

You are the one off your meds.

You and many others here at GNI try to peddle the same old BS that you don't support any party. Well your posts reflect otherwise and the people ain't buying your BS.

On topic, I was clearly stating that the foolish people who were conned by the AFC/PNC during the last election that they were going to "fix" the Berbice Bridge and reduce tolls and so many other BS promises.

You sir, need to take you meds and prove your claims. How about holding the PNC accountable for their lies ? That would be a honest and good start. 

The fact remains that the AFC/PNC lied to Guyanese about the Berbice Bridge with their false promises. We can start to address the issue of maintenance after we address your scampishness of the AFC/PNC about Bridge Repairs and the lies and false promises.

BTW, the Bridge was maintained during the PPP era and is now due for additional maintenance. The PPP held the owners accountable. How the PNC doing the same ?

This PNC government lied to Guyanese and they need to be held accountable. Your hypocrisy needs to be addressed. How about being honest and transparent for once ?

If this bridge was in a PNC stronghold, it would have been repaired a long time ago.

Calling a spade a spade.

Is your eyesight failing you? The last maintenance was done in 2007. That was 11 years ago. Once again, my main concern is fixing the damn bridge. PPP or AFC/PNC, we're talking about people's lives. Also please note my question is government vs private party for the responsibility. I seriously have no idea who the clown from the Berbice Bridge Committee is affiliated with. I was told he was in the same year as I was in school. I don't remember him.

GTAngler
yuji22 posted:
GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

Obviously you haven't taken your meds this morning. First of all I don't give a rat's ass about either party. What does any of the above have to do with fixing the bridge? I asked a question about responsibility for fixing the bridge. Either answer it or keep quiet.

You are the one off your meds.

You and many others here at GNI try to peddle the same old BS that you don't support any party. Well your posts reflect otherwise and the people ain't buying your BS.

On topic, I was clearly stating that the foolish people who were conned by the AFC/PNC during the last election that they were going to "fix" the Berbice Bridge and reduce tolls and so many other BS promises.

You sir, need to take you meds and prove your claims. How about holding the PNC accountable for their lies ? That would be a honest and good start. 

The fact remains that the AFC/PNC lied to Guyanese about the Berbice Bridge with their false promises. We can start to address the issue of maintenance after we address your scampishness of the AFC/PNC about Bridge Repairs and the lies and false promises.

BTW, the Bridge was maintained during the PPP era and is now due for additional maintenance. The PPP held the owners accountable. How the PNC doing the same ?

This PNC government lied to Guyanese and they need to be held accountable. Your hypocrisy needs to be addressed. How about being honest and transparent for once ?

If this bridge was in a PNC stronghold, it would have been repaired a long time ago.

Calling a spade a spade.

Stop talking crap!

The bridge has not been maintained since it was built. It was newly built and did not need much maintenance but it is now a few years old and due for maintenance. The bridge company is privately owned and the government is not responsible for the repairs of the bridge nor can they touch the bridge since it is private property. 

Jagdeo and Booby are two of the main shareholders of the bridge company. They have been collecting tolls for years and now they need to shell out the money to maintain the bridge. It's as simple as that!

Mars
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GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:
GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

Obviously you haven't taken your meds this morning. First of all I don't give a rat's ass about either party. What does any of the above have to do with fixing the bridge? I asked a question about responsibility for fixing the bridge. Either answer it or keep quiet.

You are the one off your meds.

You and many others here at GNI try to peddle the same old BS that you don't support any party. Well your posts reflect otherwise and the people ain't buying your BS.

On topic, I was clearly stating that the foolish people who were conned by the AFC/PNC during the last election that they were going to "fix" the Berbice Bridge and reduce tolls and so many other BS promises.

You sir, need to take you meds and prove your claims. How about holding the PNC accountable for their lies ? That would be a honest and good start. 

The fact remains that the AFC/PNC lied to Guyanese about the Berbice Bridge with their false promises. We can start to address the issue of maintenance after we address your scampishness of the AFC/PNC about Bridge Repairs and the lies and false promises.

BTW, the Bridge was maintained during the PPP era and is now due for additional maintenance. The PPP held the owners accountable. How the PNC doing the same ?

This PNC government lied to Guyanese and they need to be held accountable. Your hypocrisy needs to be addressed. How about being honest and transparent for once ?

If this bridge was in a PNC stronghold, it would have been repaired a long time ago.

Calling a spade a spade.

Is your eyesight failing you? The last maintenance was done in 2007. That was 11 years ago. Once again, my main concern is fixing the damn bridge. PPP or AFC/PNC, we're talking about people's lives. Also please note my question is government vs private party for the responsibility. I seriously have no idea who the clown from the Berbice Bridge Committee is affiliated with. I was told he was in the same year as I was in school. I don't remember him.

Well now we can have a conversation after clarification and yes the responsibility of fixing the Bridge lies with the owners.

What we have here is an incompetent and clueless AFC/PNC government which does not have the brains to enforce safety laws pertaining to maintenance of structures in Guyana.

As usual, these clowns are sitting on their hands waiting on Oil to flow and could care less about the safety of Berbicians and other Guyanese who use that Bridge.

Frankly, they need to come down real hard on the owners of the Bridge to maintain it for the safety of users.

Calling a spade a spade.

FM
yuji22 posted:
GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:
GTAngler posted:
yuji22 posted:

Na, Na, Na. You, the AFC/PNC were hollering that they would jail anyone for fraud. It was BS. Yes, BS.

Your buddies in the AFC and PNC despite spending HUNDREDS of MILLIONS found Zero fraud in their audits.

As I said before, you are peddling stale snake oil, please tray again. Guyanese ain't buying stale snake oil.

Obviously you haven't taken your meds this morning. First of all I don't give a rat's ass about either party. What does any of the above have to do with fixing the bridge? I asked a question about responsibility for fixing the bridge. Either answer it or keep quiet.

You are the one off your meds.

You and many others here at GNI try to peddle the same old BS that you don't support any party. Well your posts reflect otherwise and the people ain't buying your BS.

On topic, I was clearly stating that the foolish people who were conned by the AFC/PNC during the last election that they were going to "fix" the Berbice Bridge and reduce tolls and so many other BS promises.

You sir, need to take you meds and prove your claims. How about holding the PNC accountable for their lies ? That would be a honest and good start. 

The fact remains that the AFC/PNC lied to Guyanese about the Berbice Bridge with their false promises. We can start to address the issue of maintenance after we address your scampishness of the AFC/PNC about Bridge Repairs and the lies and false promises.

BTW, the Bridge was maintained during the PPP era and is now due for additional maintenance. The PPP held the owners accountable. How the PNC doing the same ?

This PNC government lied to Guyanese and they need to be held accountable. Your hypocrisy needs to be addressed. How about being honest and transparent for once ?

If this bridge was in a PNC stronghold, it would have been repaired a long time ago.

Calling a spade a spade.

Is your eyesight failing you? The last maintenance was done in 2007. That was 11 years ago. Once again, my main concern is fixing the damn bridge. PPP or AFC/PNC, we're talking about people's lives. Also please note my question is government vs private party for the responsibility. I seriously have no idea who the clown from the Berbice Bridge Committee is affiliated with. I was told he was in the same year as I was in school. I don't remember him.

Well now we can have a conversation after clarification and yes the responsibility of fixing the Bridge lies with the owners.

What we have here is an incompetent and clueless AFC/PNC government which does not have the brains to enforce safety laws pertaining to maintenance of structures in Guyana.

As usual, these clowns are sitting on their hands waiting on Oil to flow and could care less about the safety of Berbicians and other Guyanese who use that Bridge.

Frankly, they need to come down real hard on the owners of the Bridge to maintain it for the safety of users.

Calling a spade a spade.

Exactly.

GTAngler

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

FM
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Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

FM
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People ain't buying Dead Meat AFC dead news.

PPP built a Bridge and now the PNC is clueless on how they should enforce maintenance.

What a bunch of clowns !!!

BTW, you Bai Charan Ass get it good and prappa from the PNC police. They should throw him in jail.

Granger is giving the Indos in the AFC shytings and all you can't do shyte about it. AFC MP boys now run like lil gyals and complain in newspapers. This is what they have reduced themselves to.

Ha Ha !!! Kick dem Granger, Kick dem !!!

FM
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Dude are you fuh real ?  Check pun the Demerara Harbor Bridge which out lived the life span.

Django
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Dude are you fuh real ?  Check pun the Demerara Harbor Bridge which out lived the life span.

you have to excuse him, he is a moron as we are all aware of.

cain
yuji22 posted:

People ain't buying Dead Meat AFC dead news.

PPP built a Bridge and now the PNC is clueless on how they should enforce maintenance.

What a bunch of clowns !!!

BTW, you Bai Charan Ass get it good and prappa from the PNC police. They should throw him in jail.

Granger is giving the Indos in the AFC shytings and all you can't do shyte about it. AFC MP boys now run like lil gyals and complain in newspapers. This is what they have reduced themselves to.

Ha Ha !!! Kick dem Granger, Kick dem !!!

You are so full of shyte.

Mitwah
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Dude are you fuh real ?  Check pun the Demerara Harbor Bridge which out lived the life span.

Who seh de Bubicee brij bruk??? Dem peeple only ah taak about maintainence and you taak about bruk. You nah get de qualify fuh taak about de Bubicee brij.

FM
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Who built and maintained the Demerara bridge?  In fact, if I remember, part of this bridge had sunk during the PPP rule.

When the PPP took over, there was no question as to who owns and who was responsible for it's upkeep.

This (Bbce) bridge was built with private monies, owned by private interest and now they squabble over it's upkeep like it's a hotel!

The Govt should use some of the $900 mil to buy out the bridge and implement the Demerara bridge model!

FM
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Baseman posted:
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Who built and maintained the Demerara bridge?  In fact, if I remember, part of this bridge had sunk during the PPP rule.

When the PPP took over, there was no question as to who owns and who was responsible for it's upkeep.

This (Bbce) bridge was built with private monies, owned by private interest and now they squabble over it's upkeep like it's a hotel!

The Govt should use some of the $900 mil to buy out the bridge and implement the Demerara bridge model!

Good call,they should bailout Guysuco too.

Django
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
yuji22 posted:

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Who built and maintained the Demerara bridge?  In fact, if I remember, part of this bridge had sunk during the PPP rule.

When the PPP took over, there was no question as to who owns and who was responsible for it's upkeep.

This (Bbce) bridge was built with private monies, owned by private interest and now they squabble over it's upkeep like it's a hotel!

The Govt should use some of the $900 mil to buy out the bridge and implement the Demerara bridge model!

Good call,they should bailout Guysuco too.

Guysuco is not national infrastructure, so the justification needs to be different.  The viability of Guysuco needs to be evaluated in a holistic manner to see if it's worth it and what are the options/alternatives.  The 900 mil does not fit that need!

FM
Baseman posted:
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Who built and maintained the Demerara bridge?  In fact, if I remember, part of this bridge had sunk during the PPP rule.

When the PPP took over, there was no question as to who owns and who was responsible for it's upkeep.

This (Bbce) bridge was built with private monies, owned by private interest and now they squabble over it's upkeep like it's a hotel!

The Govt should use some of the $900 mil to buy out the bridge and implement the Demerara bridge model!

The PPP playing with fire, they forget PNC has a reputation  to nationalize other people/company assets. If the Jagabaat and company force maintenance on the government and they [PNC] start collecting the tolls they should not cry foul...

sachin_05
sachin_05 posted:
Baseman posted:

Who built and maintained the Demerara bridge?  In fact, if I remember, part of this bridge had sunk during the PPP rule.

When the PPP took over, there was no question as to who owns and who was responsible for it's upkeep.

This (Bbce) bridge was built with private monies, owned by private interest and now they squabble over it's upkeep like it's a hotel!

The Govt should use some of the $900 mil to buy out the bridge and implement the Demerara bridge model!

The PPP playing with fire, they forget PNC has a reputation  to nationalize other people/company assets. If the Jagabaat and company force maintenance on the government and they [PNC] start collecting the tolls they should not cry foul...

Guyana is a dysfunctional f-up failed state run by dysfunctional f-up failed politicians.

The PNC nationalized commercial enterprises which was better left in private hands.

The PPP placed national infrastructure in private hands, which should be in Gov't hands!

Guyana is not upside down for no reason!!

FM
sachin_05 posted:
Baseman posted:
yuji22 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

Alyuh dozz Mamagai too much!

Like you losing you stripes this morning ? Giving PNC to run de Berbice Bridge, the will bruk it down, piece by piece.

Dem bais can't even run cake shop and build anything, how can they maintain a Bridge ?

They could hardy maintain the Boat that was one crossing the river during PNC part one, we sometimes had to wait up to three days to cross de Berbice river.

Who built and maintained the Demerara bridge?  In fact, if I remember, part of this bridge had sunk during the PPP rule.

When the PPP took over, there was no question as to who owns and who was responsible for it's upkeep.

This (Bbce) bridge was built with private monies, owned by private interest and now they squabble over it's upkeep like it's a hotel!

The Govt should use some of the $900 mil to buy out the bridge and implement the Demerara bridge model!

The PPP playing with fire, they forget PNC has a reputation  to nationalize other people/company assets. If the Jagabaat and company force maintenance on the government and they [PNC] start collecting the tolls they should not cry foul...

You mean PNC fire, a noted trait?

FM
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

how much yuh tink gov't should give jagdeo/babby dem? . . . bearing in mind any 'negotiation' would be a bailout

FM
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ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

The Govt should negotiate a price and nationalize the bridge!  This should never be in private hands.  End of story.

how much yuh tink gov't should give jagdeo/babby dem? . . . bearing in mind any 'negotiation' would be a bailout

Don't worry with these two. The PNC will put their card-carrying, illiterate members in charge. Nepotism is their motto.

FM

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