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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Honoring criminals is an MO of the new Government.

 

Continuing a proud PPP tradition is all.

 

Roger Khan was "honored" by the PPP with his own island, airport, get out of jail free card etc. etc. I think most of Guyana would have preferred if all Roger Khan got was OR.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I'm not worried about Hamilton Green getting the Order of Roraima. I mentioned before that less deserving people got national awards throughout the past 45 years. Green will cease to be Mayor after upcoming LGE, expected by early next year.

What would bother me is the coalition government appointing Green to a  substantive post.

Let him retire to admire his OR award in his yard.

As for Hamilton Green's role in the 1960s, the police reports will show that there were bomb makers and homemade gun makers in the PPP too. In my street alone, I saw four homemade guns with galvanized pipe barrels in 1963. They weren't for shooting birds.

Was it necessary for you to take this shameless approach? Couldn't you just agree that Greene was wutliss in the '60s without seeking to negate it by the wutlissness of the PPP?

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I'm not worried about Hamilton Green getting the Order of Roraima. I mentioned before that less deserving people got national awards throughout the past 45 years. Green will cease to be Mayor after upcoming LGE, expected by early next year.

What would bother me is the coalition government appointing Green to a  substantive post.

Let him retire to admire his OR award in his yard.

As for Hamilton Green's role in the 1960s, the police reports will show that there were bomb makers and homemade gun makers in the PPP too. In my street alone, I saw four homemade guns with galvanized pipe barrels in 1963. They weren't for shooting birds.

Was it necessary for you to take this shameless approach? Couldn't you just agree that Greene was wutliss in the '60s without seeking to negate it by the wutlissness of the PPP?

 

Poor Gilbakka is now in a fishy situation. He has to excuse the PNC's bad behavior by constantly pointing out some analogous coolie infraction.

 

So now we can excuse the abuse of Swamiji since he been write wan real baad anti-PNC letter which apparently street thugs read.

 

Cause you know, that's how Guyanese politics work. Letters to the Editor are read by the mob and the mob then has to beat down said author of said letter.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

JB bai, You were the one boasting about Granger's honesty and intelligence pre election era. Wah happinin' now bai? You get white mouth(wapyaa) now?

He now realize that he got screwed. Just like Burnham screwed the UF back then. Over time, many of the coalition bais will hold dem head and baal.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I'm not worried about Hamilton Green getting the Order of Roraima. I mentioned before that less deserving people got national awards throughout the past 45 years. Green will cease to be Mayor after upcoming LGE, expected by early next year.

What would bother me is the coalition government appointing Green to a  substantive post.

Let him retire to admire his OR award in his yard.

As for Hamilton Green's role in the 1960s, the police reports will show that there were bomb makers and homemade gun makers in the PPP too. In my street alone, I saw four homemade guns with galvanized pipe barrels in 1963. They weren't for shooting birds.

Was it necessary for you to take this shameless approach? Couldn't you just agree that Greene was wutliss in the '60s without seeking to negate it by the wutlissness of the PPP?

 

Poor Gilbakka is now in a fishy situation. He has to excuse the PNC's bad behavior by constantly pointing out some analogous coolie infraction.

 

So now we can excuse the abuse of Swamiji since he been write wan real baad anti-PNC letter which apparently street thugs read.

 

Cause you know, that's how Guyanese politics work. Letters to the Editor are read by the mob and the mob then has to beat down said author of said letter.

Dem bais she, do fah do nah obeah.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I'm not worried about Hamilton Green getting the Order of Roraima. I mentioned before that less deserving people got national awards throughout the past 45 years. Green will cease to be Mayor after upcoming LGE, expected by early next year.

What would bother me is the coalition government appointing Green to a  substantive post.

Let him retire to admire his OR award in his yard.

As for Hamilton Green's role in the 1960s, the police reports will show that there were bomb makers and homemade gun makers in the PPP too. In my street alone, I saw four homemade guns with galvanized pipe barrels in 1963. They weren't for shooting birds.

Was it necessary for you to take this shameless approach? Couldn't you just agree that Greene was wutliss in the '60s without seeking to negate it by the wutlissness of the PPP?

the "approach" is "shameless" only in the eyes of a dead-ender hypocrite

 

there is no attempt to "negate" . . . perspective is on offer for those who actually seek knowledge

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
 

the "approach" is "shameless" only in the eyes of a dead-ender hypocrite

 

there is no attempt to "negate" . . . perspective is on offer for those who actually seek knowledge

It is my opinion that when a person say "I am sorry..." followed by the word, 'but', that apology is quickly transformed into an excuse. While you don't have to share that opinion, I have no intent of changing it.

 

Hopefully people aren't on GNI to seek knowledge.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Poor Gilbakka is now in a fishy situation. He has to excuse the PNC's bad behavior by constantly pointing out some analogous coolie infraction.

 

So now we can excuse the abuse of Swamiji since he been write wan real baad anti-PNC letter which apparently street thugs read.

 

Cause you know, that's how Guyanese politics work. Letters to the Editor are read by the mob and the mob then has to beat down said author of said letter.

you are beyond a joke

 

swami race-baiting via letter to the press . . . swami gets shouted down and cussup in return

 

both 'speech' protected by whatever

 

come now y'all antiman bawling about "thuggery"

 

tell me fraud . . . who "beat down" the unholy swami?

FM
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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by redux:
 

the "approach" is "shameless" only in the eyes of a dead-ender hypocrite

 

there is no attempt to "negate" . . . perspective is on offer for those who actually seek knowledge

It is my opinion that when a person say "I am sorry..." followed by the word, 'but', that apology is quickly transformed into an excuse. While you don't have to share that opinion, I have no intent of changing it.

 

Hopefully people aren't on GNI to seek knowledge.

your shyte is inapposite . . . give it a rest

FM
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Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Zed:

r.

jay, quit being so flippant about a serious subject such as this. Many people wonder if this an indication of what is to come.

It is.  Baseman was cussed out by PNC and Katahars for predicting this pre-May 11.  Baseman says again, this is the start of the re-establishment of the old racist order, a resurrection of PNC quasi "Apartheidism".

Give us some specific examples where you or your family was victimized in this 'apartheid.'

Don't get micro and myopic.  I know, you openly claimed on this board you never saw/experienced anything negative under the PNC, well good for you.  So, you stay in your world, I stay in mine, they will never meet.  Wonder though, if life was so great under the PNC for you, how come you are in the US and not UG!

 

BTW, how is your "unity" Govt doing this far?  Just asking.

 

In general the unity govt is doing and saying the right things. They seem sincere on constitutional reform. We will continue to give them a hard time until they get it right. I have seen many negatives in PNC time, but I cannot pinpoint a personal victimization by a blackman or PNC. So, I ask you again what are some specific examples of victimization you experienced under PNC that requires this shitty label of apartheid?

 

I am getting reports of numerous verbal abuses by blacks on Indos. This is not a PNC or AFC directed policy. If they don't want to talk about it, we will make them!! Meanwhile, if you so love Jagdeo ask him to move towards constitutional reform and grow up.

I ask you, if it was so good for you, how come you are not Dean of UG rather than the US.  I don't expect you to see things how I see it as you are a self-hater.  You stated openly on this board that the PPP, and by extention Indians, got the reception they deserved back in 1992, so I wont waste time trying to reconcile your and my views.  The PNC ran a quasi-aparthied regime and you can spray perfume and smell it how you chose, that's your right and freedom to do.

FM

baseman, i am, of course subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

FM
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Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I'm not worried about Hamilton Green getting the Order of Roraima. I mentioned before that less deserving people got national awards throughout the past 45 years. Green will cease to be Mayor after upcoming LGE, expected by early next year.

What would bother me is the coalition government appointing Green to a  substantive post.

Let him retire to admire his OR award in his yard.

As for Hamilton Green's role in the 1960s, the police reports will show that there were bomb makers and homemade gun makers in the PPP too. In my street alone, I saw four homemade guns with galvanized pipe barrels in 1963. They weren't for shooting birds.

I saw the making and testing of home made guns by the older

folks,i always remember after awoken by my mother in the early

morning hearing the sounds of a helicopter hovering over my

grand father rice fields,shortly after we are all huddled together

by the British soldiers,they searched our home and even a pond

and left.

 

I was 10 yrs old made a little toy gun we used played the

game of gun shooting,i had had it hidden under the mattress,

they didn't see it,after they left i rushed to look for it and

it was there,i said to my mother "ma if they deh the find that

what will happen"my mother looked at me and said nothing.

Django
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Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

FM
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The fact that East Indians were reduced to making homemade guns to defend themselves against the unleashed Greene assault just show how desperate of a situation the East Indians were in.  Homemade guns are highly unstable. A Berbice friend of mine almost blew his head off with one.
Prashad
Originally Posted by Prashad:
The fact that East Indians were reduced to making homemade guns to defend themselves against the unleashed Greene assault just show how desperate of a situation the East Indians were in.  Homemade guns are highly unstable. A Berbice friend of mine almost blew his head off with one.

not made properly back fires,in that era East Indian had to find

some means to defend their community.

Django
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I don't know what type of training that the PPP received from Cuba and Russia but as history shows it was vastly inferior to the training received by Greene and other PNC hoods got from the CIA
Prashad
Originally Posted by redux:
 

look, Granger pacified the PNC gerontocracy with a nod and a piece of tin to the old scoundrel before he croaks

 

people like Zed scrounging around with magnifying glass looking for PPP opportunity . . .

Willing to bet that this was in exchange for Green not attempting to run as the PNC candidate in the LGE.  Anything to avoid a public brawl.  With the elections over Granger still has to tend to his Linden problem, so doesn't have time to fight with Hammie and his crew.

 

I am sure that Linden will be sure to let him know that if they didn't increase their coalition vote by 4200 the prospects of a PPP victory would have been much easier.  They delivered an overall margin for the coalition of 14,000 votes.

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by Prashad:
The fact that East Indians were reduced to making homemade guns

Quit the nonsense.  The PYO received guns and training from Castro  It was a huge scandal when a boat arrived from Cuba and a container filled with guns fell off.

 

The PPP was BETTER armed in 1964 than was the PNC.

FM

We should all be troubled by Hammie receiving recognition by the president. This cannot be naivete or bad judgement because the new government was all about a clean slate and a new start. Why then mire themselves in controversy by bestowing a medal on a controversial figure like Hammie, when they should be trying to distance themselves from him, in order to maintain the image they were trying to foster during the campaign. The answer should be very troubling and the implications frightening. Does it mean that the "old boys network" is still intact and was just waiting in the wings, or does Hammie have a hold over APNU and this is recognition for services rendered. The AFC could not have supported this, especially the Moses and the PPP defectors to the AFC. Or do they now have to swallow humble pie. I also wonder what Freddie, the ardent advocate of anything non-PPP, feels about this. He was after all a frequent target of the PNC, and almost became a terminal victim himself, on the same day father Darke was killed.

Hammie was simply a thug; it is common knowledge. The incident about Moses Bhagwan's wife is very reminiscent of a similar incident at GPC when workers had to hide for fear of being dismissed.

I am sorry the president did not simply avoid the controversy and simply ignore Hammie.  Perhaps he simply couldn't.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

So, you now become his pantyhose.  Let him defend his statement and you so squat it out, lil antiman.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

So, you now become his pantyhose.  Let him defend his statement and you so squat it out, lil antiman.

dude, i am not part of any conversation u are having with TK

 

i made a stand alone observation that you were posting specific, obvious shyte, and i called u on it

 

in true antiman style you have embarked on an obfuscation expedition in a weak attempt to weasel out of the embarrassment

 

you are a known ignoramus whose stink mouth too frequently gets ahead of the clicks in your pedestrian brain

 

g'wan daside with yuh bigot, leprous, low-performing self

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

So, you now become his pantyhose.  Let him defend his statement and you so squat it out, lil antiman.

dude, i am not part of any conversation u are having with TK

 

i made a stand alone observation that you were posting specific, obvious shyte, and i called u on it

 

in true antiman style you have embarked on an obfuscation expedition in a weak attempt to weasel out of the embarrassment

 

you are a known ignoramus whose stink mouth too frequently gets ahead of the clicks in your pedestrian brain

 

g'wan daside with yuh bigot, leprous, low-performing self

Good, and I don't need to respond to you, leh he talk, is he statement, not yours.  Keep on walking, wah happen, yuh start a friends?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

So, you now become his pantyhose.  Let him defend his statement and you so squat it out, lil antiman.

dude, i am not part of any conversation u are having with TK

 

i made a stand alone observation that you were posting specific, obvious shyte, and i called u on it

 

in true antiman style you have embarked on an obfuscation expedition in a weak attempt to weasel out of the embarrassment

 

you are a known ignoramus whose stink mouth too frequently gets ahead of the clicks in your pedestrian brain

 

g'wan daside with yuh bigot, leprous, low-performing self

Good, and I don't need to respond to you, leh he talk, is he statement, not yours.  Keep on walking, wah happen, yuh start a friends?

first, klown . . . i never asked for a response from you

 

i nailed your dry shit to the wall to embarrass the crap out of you and the miserable PPP dankey yuh flacking for

 

mission accomplished!

 

next

FM
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Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

So, you now become his pantyhose.  Let him defend his statement and you so squat it out, lil antiman.

dude, i am not part of any conversation u are having with TK

 

i made a stand alone observation that you were posting specific, obvious shyte, and i called u on it

 

in true antiman style you have embarked on an obfuscation expedition in a weak attempt to weasel out of the embarrassment

 

you are a known ignoramus whose stink mouth too frequently gets ahead of the clicks in your pedestrian brain

 

g'wan daside with yuh bigot, leprous, low-performing self

Good, and I don't need to respond to you, leh he talk, is he statement, not yours.  Keep on walking, wah happen, yuh start a friends?

first, klown . . . i never asked for a reaponse from you

 

i nailed your dry shit to the wall to embarrass the crap out of you

 

mission accomplished!

 

next

Antiman, which?  That he deh had and not UG, the fact that he said PPP/Indans deserve their treatment in 1992?  No amount of wet or dry shit you throw to cover that shyte gon wuk.  Now keep on walking lil antiman.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

baseman, i am, of course, subject to correction here

 

but bai, my understanding is that TK's sojourn overseas began and continued under PPP rule . . . not PNC

 

but doan let facts and ting get in the way of your idiot polemic

 

carry on

Well you can also try to defend your buddy comments regarding the PPP, and by extension Indians, got the reception they deserve in 1992.

dude, if u weren't such an antiman u would do the honorable thing and acknowledge that u posted shyte, and move on

 

but then again . . .

 

smfh

So, you now become his pantyhose.  Let him defend his statement and you so squat it out, lil antiman.

dude, i am not part of any conversation u are having with TK

 

i made a stand alone observation that you were posting specific, obvious shyte, and i called u on it

 

in true antiman style you have embarked on an obfuscation expedition in a weak attempt to weasel out of the embarrassment

 

you are a known ignoramus whose stink mouth too frequently gets ahead of the clicks in your pedestrian brain

 

g'wan daside with yuh bigot, leprous, low-performing self

Good, and I don't need to respond to you, leh he talk, is he statement, not yours.  Keep on walking, wah happen, yuh start a friends?

first, klown . . . i never asked for a reaponse from you

 

i nailed your dry shit to the wall to embarrass the crap out of you and the miserable PPP dankey yuh flacking for

 

mission accomplished!

 

next

Antiman, which?  That he deh had and not UG, the fact that he said PPP/Indans deserve their treatment in 1992?  No amount of wet or dry shit you throw to cover that shyte gon wuk.  Now keep on walking lil antiman.

all that is between you and TK . . . i am not part of that conversation

 

u know EXACTLY what my issue is . . . doan pretend that i need to hold yuh delicate haan

 

arite?

FM
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Returning to the topic of thread:

 

When Hammy's first wife died mysteriously, on the day of the cremation, teachers were told to go out with the children at the East Coast Road and stand along the roadside while the hearse was passing to go up the East Coast cremation site.

 

My wife and I refused.  WE taught at the same high school at that time. Later, when the PNC Govt wanted to send a message to dissidents, my wife and I were the only two from that school that were retrenched in the nationwide retrenchment exercises. 

 

After I left Guyana (my wife stayed back for a while), a black teacher at the school told my wife that he was sent there to spy on us and report back to the PNC).

 

So Green, our new hero who allegedly fought for Independence, was a powerhouse back in the heydays of Burnhamism.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Franky:

.The AFC could not have supported this, especially the Moses and the PPP defectors to the AFC...

And the growing realization, that because the Indo swing vote was small, Moses isn't the conquering lion that some of you thought he was, and mightn't even control the AFC.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
..  The PNC ran a quasi-aparthied regime and you can spray perfume and smell it how you chose, that's your right and freedom to do.

As did the PPP, but being an Indo KKK member you supported them with that, so make no mention of it.

FM
Originally Posted by Prashad:
A few party activists with guns can never match the bomb. Training camps in CIA facilities in New York and the Virginia country side

Continue to peddle your "black man baad, Indian saintly" mythology.  As some one who was around in the 60s I know how hilarious you look when you scream that foolishness.

FM
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Caribj seeing that you may  hate me because of my race it takes two to tango.

You finally admitting that Indian racism played as big a role in Guyana as African racism, and the "baad black man, saintly Indo" myth is pure garbage?

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Franky:

.The AFC could not have supported this, especially the Moses and the PPP defectors to the AFC...

And the growing realization, that because the Indo swing vote was small, Moses isn't the conquering lion that some of you thought he was, and mightn't even control the AFC.

Moses and the AFC was the catalyst to cause APNU to head up the Government, else Apnu would still be in the opposition and possibly with less seats than they won in 2011.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Caribj I don't admit to nothing It is your hate of East Indians that got you talking nonsense. Keep hating Indians and eventually you will go mad with hate ☺

Yes baad black and saintly Indian.  Since I don't subscribe to this bilge, obviously I must be racist because every thing that is bad in Guyana is due to blacks, and only those who hate Indians say otherwise.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Franky:

.The AFC could not have supported this, especially the Moses and the PPP defectors to the AFC...

And the growing realization, that because the Indo swing vote was small, Moses isn't the conquering lion that some of you thought he was, and mightn't even control the AFC.

Moses and the AFC was the catalyst to cause APNU to head up the Government, else Apnu would still be in the opposition and possibly with less seats than they won in 2011.

So congratulate Hammie Green as obviously Moses nominated him.

FM

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