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BITCOIN WARNING! How Bitfinex, Tether risk crashing global crypto markets.

 

JOHANNESBURG — As the Bitcoin bulls continue to run with the price sailing past the $12 000 mark and approaching $13 000 at the time of writing, there’s a corner of the internet that is starting to seriously ring the alarm bells. While futures trading (which will start as early as December 10) is theoretically set to introduce more bears into the market and, possibly, a more stable Bitcoin price; there’s a major exchange based in Hong Kong and Taiwan dubbed ‘Bitfinex’ that is beginning to send shivers through some sceptics’ spines. Bitfinex, on its website, describes itself “the world’s largest and most advanced bitcoin trading platform”. And according to data from crypto measuring site data.bitcoinity.org, Bitfinex has dominated the world’s Bitcoin trade on exchanges, with a 41.72% market share over the last seven days. (The next biggest player is the US-based exchange, Coinbase, with 25.78% market share.) But looking at Bitfinex’s history, there’s cause for concern. In May 2015, 1 500 bitcoins were stolen from Bitfinex during a hack. Then in 2016, Bitfinex was the subject of another hack in which $72m worth of bitcoin was stolen. Also, Wells Fargo dumped Bitfinex earlier this year, resulting in Bitfinex experience problems in its banking services. But wait, there’s more. There are also1 concerns over Bitfinex not being completely transparent about being key in creating and establishing a cryptocurrency called ‘Tether’ (USDT), which is intended to be pegged to the US dollar at a rate of 1:1. There are now questions about whether Tether itself is backed with sufficient funding in case of a run on the markets (and in some instances if you even just want to withdraw dollars out of Tether). There are also question markets about whether Bitfinex has been instrumental in driving up Bitcoin prices, partly via Tether. It’s a complicated story, but the warnings can’t be ignored. So, we’ve published two pieces here. The first is a story that was published on Bloomberg yesterday detailing concerns over Bitfinex and Tether. The second is a blog post from an anonymous blogger called ‘Bitfinex’d‘ who has published lots of material questioning Bitfinex and Tether (Bitfinex’d has kindly let us republish his work here). This week Stuart Hoegner, the in-house counsel for Bitfinex, said in a statement: “To date, every claim made by these bad actors has been patently false and made simply to agitate the cryptocurrency ecosystem. As a result, Bitfinex has decided to assert all of its legal rights and remedies against this agitator and his associates.” Considering that Bitfinex is a major player — if it does collapse, there is a major risk of contagion. We could have another 2014 Mt Gox-styled meltdown on our hands.  – Gareth van Zyl

Mystery shrouds Tether and its links to biggest Bitcoin exchange

By Matthew Leising

(Bloomberg) — Among the many mysteries at the heart of the cryptocurrency market are these: Does $814 million of a digital token known as tether really exist? And what is tether’s connection to Bitfinex, the world’s biggest bitcoin exchange?

This is the state of crypto in late 2017, where questions about the companies behind the currencies are multiplying with the profits. While cryptocurrencies appeal to people who lack faith in governments and banks, the digital assets often require a blind trust in companies about which few facts are available.

Take tether. The currency, which started trading in 2015, is described as a stable alternative to bitcoin’s wild price swings. A restaurant owner who accepts bitcoin but fears its volatility could shift bitcoin into tether, which can be easier to do than exchanging bitcoin for dollars. Its price has stayed near $1 for most of its life because Tether, the company behind the digital token, says that every tether is backed by one U.S. dollar held in reserve. Since there’s $814 million of tether circulating, there should be $814 million parked in bank accounts somewhere.

Not everyone believes there is.

“Is there anything backing this?” said Tim Swanson, who does risk analysis for blockchain and cryptocurrency startups. Swanson, also director of research at Post Oaks Labs, said he fears problems with tether could hobble exchanges that trade it. “If these aren’t backed 1-to-1, then what is the contagion risk if one of these exchanges goes down?”

Some wonder whether tether has helped pump up the price of bitcoin, which recently surpassed $11,000 after beginning the year below $1,000. Charlie Lee, creator of Litecoin, the world’s seventh-largest cryptocurrency, wrote in a Nov. 30 Twitter post, “There’s a fear going on that the recent price rise was helped by printing of USDT (Tether) that is not backed by USD in a bank account.”

Little public information exists about how tether is created, fueling questions, said Barry Leybovich, a product manager at IPC System who creates risk and compliance products for financial institutions interested in blockchain applications. The market believes that each tether is worth $1, even if they’re not actually backed by that money, and trades of tether for bitcoin at Bitfinex are helping drive up the price of bitcoin, he said.

No Guarantee

Tether’s website makes a claim that’s unusual among cryptocurrencies: “every tether is always backed 1-to-1 by traditional currency held in our reserves.” The site also says each tether can be redeemed for $1. But its terms of service say: “There is no contractual right or other right or legal claim against us to redeem or exchange your tethers for money. We do not guarantee any right of redemption or exchange of tethers by us for money.”

Pedestrians pass in front of a Wells Fargo & Co. bank branch in New York, U.S. Photographer: Victor J. Blue/Bloomberg

On Dec. 2, Bitfinex released a quarterly report announcing it would no longer serve U.S. customers because it’s too expensive to do business with them. This followed Wells Fargo & Co.’s decision earlier in the year to end its role as a correspondent bank through which customers in the U.S. could send money to Bitfinex and Tether’s banks in Taiwan. Bitfinex and Tether filed suit against Wells Fargo, but later withdrew the case.

‘Clear Challenges’

“We continue to experience banking bottlenecks for some customers, but are proceeding to open accounts around the world,” according to the quarterly report. “While we have some clear challenges, please note that tens of millions of dollars continue to flow in and out of Bitfinex daily. Although not available to everyone, these fiat flows have been sufficient to keep our market in alignment with other exchanges as we continue to gain market share.”

Bitfinex and Tether identified four Taiwanese banks in the Wells Fargo lawsuit. However, Ronn Torossian, a spokesman for Bitfinex and Tether, refused to identify their current banks unless a reporter signed a non-disclosure agreement, an offer that wasn’t accepted.

Polish Bank

Documents posted online show Bitfinex directing prospective customers to Poland’s Bank Spoldzielczy in Skierniewice. Torossian wouldn’t comment on whether the documents are authentic.

Wladyslaw Klazynski, the bank’s chief executive officer, wouldn’t confirm if any accounts have been opened by Bitfinex clients, citing Polish financial law that forbids revealing client data. “We are in touch with the Polish financial market watchdog in order to explain media information” about the situation, he said in a phone interview, adding that his firm isn’t “financially engaged” with any company trading bitcoin.

Neither Tether nor Bitfinex disclose on their websites or in any public documents where they’re located or who’s in charge, but information is available elsewhere.

Jan Ludovicus van der Velde is CEO of both Bitfinex and Tether, Torossian said by email on Dec. 3. A LinkedIn page for someone named J. L. van der Velde, who identifies himself as Bitfinex’s CEO, says he speaks Dutch, English, German, Italian and Chinese, attended National Taiwan Normal University from 1985 to 1988 and was previously CEO of PAG Asia Inc.

Paradise Papers

Phil Potter is a Tether director, according to documents — dubbed the Paradise Papers — recently leaked by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. He’s also the chief strategy officer at Bitfinex. A graduate of Yale University, Potter worked as a derivatives analyst for Morgan Stanley and then moved to the private client services unit at Bear Stearns Cos., where he worked on technology infrastructure and software design. He’s given many interviews that can be found on YouTube, including Q&As after Bitfinex was hacked last year.

Bitfinex incorporated in Hong Kong in 2013, but then changed its name to Renrenbee Ltd. a year later, according to Companies Registry in Hong Kong. Giancarlo Devasini is listed as a director at Renrenbee by Companies Registry. He’s identified as a Tether director in the Paradise Papers.

Torossian said van der Velde, Potter and Devasini weren’t available for interviews.

Oguz Serdar said he tried tether, but came away disappointed. When Turkey banned PayPal last year, he began using bitcoin to pay contractors working with his advertising technology company, then started investing in it on his own. When he feared bitcoin was poised to drop, he said he shifted funds into tether. “It’s a way to park your gains,” he explained in a telephone interview. “It’s what you do temporarily.”

He said that in early November he tried to cash out $1 million of tether, a request Tether refused.

‘Banking Difficulties’

“Due to ongoing banking difficulties we are only able to process requests for verified corporate customers,” Serdar was told by Tether, according to emails he shared with Bloomberg News. Serdar said the company stated that its currency was backed by reserves, meaning it was one of few places to exchange tethers for dollars, and while he didn’t have an account he approached them to find out who they banked with.

Tether, Serdar says, declined to disclose its banks and instead recommended in an email that he try to sell on one of the exchange partners it lists on its website. More than a dozen names appear there, but many don’t offer investors a way to exchange tether for dollars. One that does is Kraken, but Serdar didn’t think that market could handle his trade. “The demand side is entirely empty there,” he said. “You try to sell $1 million of U.S. dollar tether, the price crashes to zero, so you don’t do that.”

Serdar “doesn’t have any money with us and he never did,” Torossian said. “The customer in question was flagged as suspicious because of numerous irregularities,” he added. “If this customer wishes to complete our KYC process properly, we may review this matter further. Until that time, this individual will not be permitted to do business with us,” he said, referring to know-your-customer regulations that require financial firms to vet their clients.

Serdar said he alerted the U.S. Treasury Department and the Justice Department about his concerns regarding Tether through an online tip website, but hasn’t heard back. As for how the company characterizes him now, he said, “they’re speculating on me being some type of enemy.”

Lawyers Hired

On Dec. 3, Bitfinex said it had hired law firm Steptoe & Johnson LLP because of “false claims and related activity by various parties,” according to an emailed press release. “To date, every claim made by these bad actors has been patently false and made simply to agitate the cryptocurrency ecosystem,” Stuart Hoegner, counsel for Bitfinex, said in the statement.

Serdar says he eventually traded his $1 million tether stake for bitcoin. “I don’t think they have even $100 million or $200 million in a legitimate country,” he said. “It’s the elephant in the room, but a lot of people don’t want to talk about it because they’re invested in it.”


The Bitfinex Dilemma: Blow up now, or try a Hail-Mary to retain in business.

By Bitfinex’d, posted on Medium.

In my last post, I mentioned how Bitfinex essentially started a ponzi scheme in order to pay back their BFX tokens.

In this post, I’m going to look at things a little bit from the side of Bitfinex of the choices they had, and this may help explain their rational for committing fraud on a wholesale scale w1hile sending their trolls out to try and gaslight me.

If you recall, Bitfinex was hacked and lost 72 million dollars of their customers money. They slowly paid back a small percentage of these with ‘real money’.

Their main scheme was to pay these back by selling equity in Bitfinex to people holding their debt tokens. Bitfinex themselves admitted it would take several years to pay these back normally.

Let’s set aside for a moment that their valuation had no basis in reality due to non-existent (but promised) audits and wash trading (bitfinex based their valuation on income derived from trading fees, but includes wash trades in these numbers).

They sold roughly (as far as I know), around 50 million in equity. The rest of the BFX tokens were paid back with Tethers.

On April 3rd, 2017, just two days before Bitfinex was about to file a major lawsuit against Wells Fargo (which bitfinex admitted was frivolous), they announced that they had ‘paid back’ all of their tokens.

They successfully convinced token holders into buying equity, and they printed enough Tethers to pay off the remaining holdouts (which they could only withdraw by buying Bitcoin…further inflating prices)

Just as they said they ‘paid back’ their tokens, Wells Fargo, the last bank willing to process their transactions, cut off all services on March 23rd.

Bitfinex essentially had the rug swept up from under them. An exchange is completely dead without banking. It’s a water park with no water. A movie theater with no movies. A peanut butter jelly sandwich with no peanut butter or jelly. A nothingburger.

They essentially had two options.

Option 1. Shut down the exchange until they re-establish banking, process USD withdrawals via their “settlement” setup with their lawyers. Shareholders go into panic mode, lose market share to legitimate exchanges, end result, exchange dies, shareholders who converted their debt to equity… bag holders.

Option 2. Fraud. Start artificially inflating the price of bitcoin to influence a mania while trying to re-acquire banking, ensure that the price of Bitcoin NEVER falls so that new money is always trying to come into the exchange and they can process some withdrawals to keep some people happy.

Use any means possible to ensure prices never fall.

WAIT A MINUTE YOU JUST SAID THEY HAD NO BANKING! WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!

It’s very simple actually.

If the price of bitcoin is always rising, people always want to deposit money to the exchange. Bitfinex currently admits that ‘large corporate’ accounts can deposit and withdraw, and they require you to jump through a bunch of ‘hoops’ in order to do this.

Enter Hawala banking. I highly suspect that this is likely one of the many tools Bitfinex engages to remain in business.

As Bitfinex is not exactly honorable when it comes to banking arrangements, as they once claimed that they would play cat-and-mouse tricks with banks by continuously creating shell companies every time their accounts were shut down.

Now, say for some reason you want to deposit money to Bitfinex, let’s say… $5 million dollars. Bitfinex has a customer that wants to withdraw $2 million, and another that wants to withdraw $3 million.

Bitfinex essentially match-makes you with someone wanting to withdraw from their exchange, and you send the money directly to the other party withdrawing.

Bitfinex isn’t in the middle of this transaction at all. Banking is immune to shutdown because neither party is Bitfinex or blacklisted.

So in this case, to deposit $5 million to Bitfinex, please send Alice $2 million, and Bob $3 million. Once Bitfinex confirms that the money was sent, they internally adjust the accounts by removing $5 million from those two accounts, and crediting you $5 million.

Bitfinex could also queue up deposits for handling withdrawals.

For example, say you want to deposit $5 million to Bitfinex, but Bitfinex doesn’t have any large pending withdrawals. In theory, you could sign an agreement to pay them $5 million.

You retain control of the money, they credit your account $5 million while you still have possession of the funds.

Then, when they are ready, they’ll ask you to pay out Janice who wants to withdraw $2 million, you send the $2 million to Janice and Bitfinex simply gives you a receipt that you paid them $2 million.

This all sounds good, right?

Well, there’s a problem. This requires a never ending stream of money coming into the exchange.

The minute the prices of Bitcoin turns bearish, and the prices continuously fall, eventually people will stop catching knives, money coming in comes to a trickle, and people are wanting to withdraw and nobody wants to deposit.

So, the only choice Bitfinex has, is to relentlessly manipulate the price of Bitcoin up for as long as possible so that people always want to deposit, until they are able to re-establish a legitimate banking partner.

If that were to happen, they could then let the prices crash and nobody will be the wiser… because…

“oh well yeah it’s bitcoin, of course bitcoin crashed and fell 80–90%. Welcome to Bitcoin!”

I don’t believe that Bitfinex expected it to take so long to re-aquire banking. Phil Potter originally said it would be a few weeks.

However, it has been 7 months with no resolution to their banking problems. It’s my personal opinion, they will never re-establish banking relations allowing them to function normally.

No Bitcoin exchange that has been cut off from formal real-fiat banking for 7 months, has ever survived.

Also, let’s not forget the last time we had a Bitcoin exchange with no banking, we had quite a bubble. Especially when they were printing fake money to buy Bitcoins.

And well, that’s exactly what we have going on now. Hundreds of millions of fake money masquerading as US Dollars propping up all crypto markets.

Tether has never redeemed a single Dollar, as issuance always rises and never falls. In theory, Tethers should be going up and down in market cap as people deposit and withdraw from it.

But the reality is, nobody can withdraw.

Nobody can deposit, either. 

They really want people to believe that someone has bought 550* million worthless Tethers for a product that doesn’t even work.

*I suggest not using the dollar sign ($) when referring Tethers, as Tethers are not money, not redeemable. They are car wash tokens.

A possible theory behind Tether

One possible theory for the issuance of Tethers is Bitfinex/Tether themselves are borrowing money from a bank, using these on the margin markets to earn a higher return than their interest rate they borrow at.

Under these circumstances it would make sense, and the risk to the bank is minimal, because Bitfinex never has to withdraw the funds from their bank.

I would argue that if you went to a bank, asked to borrow $500 million, and pay them 5–10% APY interest, on top of never withdrawing the money from your account, a bank might be willing to play ball.

They can’t lose, and Bitfinex can charge 38.87% APY on their margin markets, or more (I’ve seen as high as 1,100%)

They could also speculate on the price of Bitcoin with these tethers, even if their positions crash in value… the money is still in the account and they can prioritize the bank prior to their depositors.

But then it does mean that everyone holding a Tether is in a sense, holding a liability that Bitfinex/Tether has to their bank.

Not to mention they could show their terms of service to their bank and say well “Look, we don’t ever redeem these Tethers anyway”.

Tether Terms of Service

THIS IS ALL FUD (Fear, uncertainty and doubt)! AUDIT WILL MAKE YOU LOOK STUPID!

Let’s go back in time. Bitfinex announced they engaged “Ledger Labs” to do a full financial audit, including their liaiblities.

Source

In April 2017, Bitfinex admitted that they never actually engaged the auditor, “Ledger Labs”.

Translation: We lied. (Source)

Despite the simple fact that Bitfinex, never engaged Ledger Labs, traders and customers were informed that the audit was progressing as late as February 2017.

Bitfinex Employee “Andrew” informing customers of audit in progress, February, 11th, 2017 Source

What has Bitfinex been saying about their audit since April of this year?

‘Audit is in progress’.

And don’t forget that one time Bitfinex lied about their association to Tether

How many times can they lie to their customers, and get away with it?

I’d argue an audit is not coming. Ever.

If they release anything, it will be another ‘management report’ full of disclaimers by Friedman LLP that render the document worthless.

Conclusion

Bitfinex had two terrible options before them. They either shut down due to no banking, causing catastrophic losses to their new shareholders who just took a big chance with them, or they try to inflate a bubble, and hope it gets big enough so that they can at least pay back their shareholders and well, screw everyone else.

I’d argue they took the latter option. Because with fraud, at least there’s a chance they get away with it due to the unregulated nature of Bitcoin, and well, every time someone tries to call them out on their scam they are able to send in their trolls to quell any sort of outrage.

At least until I came along as I refuse to back down and drop the subject, as they have been conducting fraud since the very start of their exchange.

I intend to succeed where they failed, by persistently telling people the history and the truth of this exchange. Sooner or later, the truth always comes out.

Source

Let’s not forget that time where the Chief Financial Officer Giancarlo Devasini, of Bitfinex was credited a million dollars he did not have on deposit, to trade with.

“myself” is a former administrator of Bitfinex. (Source)

Trade carefully.

-Bitfinexed

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Yuji, I deal with people finances and investment all the time. Its laughable when you look at theirs investment statements. Guyanese are small time investors. Some of them invest without any investment knowledge and hope to strike it rich by luck. The stock market is for the rich and insider traders. Instead of wasting time with bitcoin, invest in livestock or cow that can give you milk to drink.

FM
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Cobra posted:

Yuji, I deal with people finances and investment all the time. Its laughable when you look at theirs investment statements. Guyanese are small time investors. Some of them invest without any investment knowledge and hope to strike it rich by luck. The stock market is for the rich and insider traders. Instead of wasting time with bitcoin, invest in livestock or cow that can give you milk to drink.

Hold your horses, I have been playing and mining Crypto from day one. Imagine Buying Bitcoin at $ 125. The key is knowing when to bail out.

Bitcoin is now a bubble, due for a correction but some greedy people will keep speculating.

The sharks are moving in on the whales. The crash will eventually happen and it will be very, very nasty.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
Cobra posted:

Yuji, I deal with people finances and investment all the time. Its laughable when you look at theirs investment statements. Guyanese are small time investors. Some of them invest without any investment knowledge and hope to strike it rich by luck. The stock market is for the rich and insider traders. Instead of wasting time with bitcoin, invest in livestock or cow that can give you milk to drink.

Hold your horses, I have been playing and mining Crypto from day one. Imagine Buying Bitcoin at $ 125. The key is knowing when to bail out.

Bitcoin is now a bubble, due for a correction but some greedy people will keep speculating.

The sharks are moving in on the whales. The crash will eventually happen and it will be very, very nasty.

Don't waste your money on Individual stocks, there is too much uncertainty in the market right now. Agree with your 'take' on Bitcoin.

alena06
alena06 posted:
yuji22 posted:
Cobra posted:

Yuji, I deal with people finances and investment all the time. Its laughable when you look at theirs investment statements. Guyanese are small time investors. Some of them invest without any investment knowledge and hope to strike it rich by luck. The stock market is for the rich and insider traders. Instead of wasting time with bitcoin, invest in livestock or cow that can give you milk to drink.

Hold your horses, I have been playing and mining Crypto from day one. Imagine Buying Bitcoin at $ 125. The key is knowing when to bail out.

Bitcoin is now a bubble, due for a correction but some greedy people will keep speculating.

The sharks are moving in on the whales. The crash will eventually happen and it will be very, very nasty.

Don't waste your money on Individual stocks, there is too much uncertainty in the market right now. Agree with your 'take' on Bitcoin.

Agreed.

I "know" one guy who deals in Options. Much more to be made than buying stocks. Sooooo much money is there to be made for the smart folks. 99 Percent of folks feed at the bottom.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
 

Hold your horses, I have been playing and mining Crypto from day one. Imagine Buying Bitcoin at $ 125. The key is knowing when to bail out.

Bitcoin is now a bubble, due for a correction but some greedy people will keep speculating.

The sharks are moving in on the whales. The crash will eventually happen and it will be very, very nasty.

Yugi,

Changing Bitcoin to fiat money is complex.

"The downside that accompanies this ease of use is that, if you are selling bitcoin for fiat currencies, you will need to withdraw those funds to your bank. If the exchange is facing liquidity problems or issues with its banks, it can take an inordinate amount of time to receive your funds."

check here

Django
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
 

Hold your horses, I have been playing and mining Crypto from day one. Imagine Buying Bitcoin at $ 125. The key is knowing when to bail out.

Bitcoin is now a bubble, due for a correction but some greedy people will keep speculating.

The sharks are moving in on the whales. The crash will eventually happen and it will be very, very nasty.

Yugi,

Changing Bitcoin to fiat money is complex.

"The downside that accompanies this ease of use is that, if you are selling bitcoin for fiat currencies, you will need to withdraw those funds to your bank. If the exchange is facing liquidity problems or issues with its banks, it can take an inordinate amount of time to receive your funds."

check here

Bai, i know how it all works. 

FM

I  would buy silver and hold it for the long term instead of bidcoin. If you look at the depression years in the USA. The Federal government issued a rule ending the personal holding of silver and gold during the great depression. The American government can issue a rule any time to make bidcoin illegal. Gaddafi wanted to trade his country's oil for Gold instead of American dollars and he ended up in a meat freezer in the desert. I don't think America will allow Bidcoin so that it can compete with the American dollar. Most likely America will go the way of China with mobile phone currency transfers.

 

Prashad
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