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BREAKING NEWS: NIGEL HUGHES QUITS LINDEN COI AFTER REFUSING TO WITHDRAW FALSE ALLEGATION AGAINST SENIOR POLICE OFFICER!

AFC Chairman and Attorney Nigel Hughes today withdrew in dramatic fashion from the Commission of Inquiry probing the shooting of Lindeners on July 18.
Hughes, who was representing the families of three men killed on that day, told the Commissioners that he had informed his clien

ts that he could be of no further assistance to them before he exited the hearing.

It came about when during the cross-examination of Senior Superintendent Clifton Hicken, Hughes suggested that the officer wanted to shoot him when he(Hicken) out of frustration with a series of irrelevant questions, turned to the Commissioners and asked for their leave.
Commission Chairman Justice Lensley Wolfe then ordered Hughes to withdraw the accusation or have his cross-examination terminated. Hughes refused and left the proceedings but not before addressing media operatives who where strategically positioned outside for his exist as though it was pre-planned and stage managed.

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PPP PRESS RELEASE

Beware of acts of desperation, panic as opposition falsehoods exposed at Linden CoI

The People's Progressive Party (PPP) is not surprised at the unraveling of the opposition vilification campaign against the Minister of Home Affairs, the Guyana Police Force and the PPP/C Government in the ongoing Linden Commission of Inquiry.

It would be recalled that several opposition leaders who took to the stand were cautioned for misleading the Commissioners and made a plethora of contradictory statements.

Then the evidence provided by no less than the UK ballistic expert brought in by the AFC contradicted the contentions by the opposition that the Police were responsible for the deaths and injury of several protesters in Linden.

The opposition had based their attack against the Minister of Home Affairs alleging that he had issued the order for the Police to open fire on the protesters during a telephone conversation with the Police Commander on the ground prior the shooting in Linden.

Telephone records provided confirmed this to be another falsehood proving that the Minister made contact with the Commander almost two hours after the incident.

Despite the Commissioners of Inquiry indicating that there was no evidence presented by the opposition to implicate the Minister of Home Affairs in the Linden incident, the opposition continued to press for its demand that the Minister take the stand which was eventually acceded to by the CoI.

The public was in for another spectacle when APNU Attorney-At-Law Basil Williams has now accused the Minister for failing to provide any instruction to the Guyana Police Force on the Linden incident. While on the other hand the other opposition AFC Attorney-at-Law Nigel Hughes falsely contends that the Minister instructed the Guyana Police Force on the Linden incident.

During this period as the opposition case began to unravel and their contentions proving a failure they became noticeable agitated and particularly AFC Chairman Nigel Hughes began to vent his frustration on witnesses and even the Commissioners themselves.

The seeming confusion and a signal of defeat almost led to physical confrontation with a witness through Hughes line of questioning. After he was requested by the CoI to retract an injurious and false statement about the witness, he reacted angrily and informed the Commissioners that he was refusing to withdraw his statement and he will no longer be honoring his commitment to the victims of the Linden incident whom he was representing.

The People's Progressive Party sees this as an act of desperation and panic by the opposition as the truth has prevailed and their wicked falsehoods exposed.
Guyanese will also remember the ultimatum issued by Nigel Hughes and Moses Nagamootoo of the AFC for the resignation of the Home Affairs Minister and the chaos which prevailed on the Agricola public road after their public statements that they were ‘not calling for peace’.

The party expects that all stakeholders in society, including the many victims of their actions will come forward publicly and remind the opposition of the grievous harm and disruption inflicted on the nation by the campaign of lies and false accusations.

The PPP notes too efforts in the letter columns by a few opposition activists to derail the work of the CoI. We expect all parties and groups to reject this latest scheme.

November 1, 2012
FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Nigel has acted unprofessionally, he will now go back to his practice and lick his wounds. Imagine telling a witness that he wanted to ask permission to shoot him, he would be disbarred from the US legal system.

That is not a case before a judge with a defendant's liberty at stake. It was a commission whose adjudication ought to be with getting some a timeline hardened and to see if the facts fit. If the lying police would not even answer within a margin of many hours of leeway and the adjudicators allow  that looseness in "memory" as an excuse then  what is the purpose of the exercise?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

That is not a case before a judge with a defendant's liberty at stake. It was a commission whose adjudication ought to be with getting some a timeline hardened and to see if the facts fit. If the lying police would not even answer within a margin of many hours of leeway and the adjudicators allow  that looseness in "memory" as an excuse then  what is the purpose of the exercise?


The police have to be careful what they say since it could be used against them in criminal prosecution. What Nigel should be seeking are the alleged witnesses who saw the police firing on the crowd and the origin of the bullets that are non police issued. I doubt he would go down this road as it may lead right back to the AFC agents.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Hughes knew to his guts, the evidence provided does not implicate the police, so he was on a quest to pin circumstantial thoughts on the police, when he failed, he needed an exit strategy, so he created a smoke screen, and slip disgracefully slip away.... Hughes should be ashamed of himself

So he did exit disgracefully but had it all planned to display his disgrace to the media?

A

you ppp fools,when the bandits rob the guyaese people and the police do not respond in time or did not do enough to catch the bandits you ppp fools blame the police,but you is the one have the police like this,look at this enquiry a police man cannot give a direct answer and you fools is supporting him and this is the people that have to keep the indians safe in guyana no wonder the collie people is running from guyana because of the crime.remember what you sow that is what you will reap

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

you ppp fools,when the bandits rob the guyaese people and the police do not respond in time or did not do enough to catch the bandits you ppp fools blame the police,but you is the one have the police like this,look at this enquiry a police man cannot give a direct answer and you fools is supporting him and this is the people that have to keep the indians safe in guyana no wonder the collie people is running from guyana because of the crime.remember what you sow that is what you will reap

What happen your ASS got stuck in your head??? Dat is an Ocean of SHIT you just wrote!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

That is not a case before a judge with a defendant's liberty at stake. It was a commission whose adjudication ought to be with getting some a timeline hardened and to see if the facts fit. If the lying police would not even answer within a margin of many hours of leeway and the adjudicators allow  that looseness in "memory" as an excuse then  what is the purpose of the exercise?


The police have to be careful what they say since it could be used against them in criminal prosecution. What Nigel should be seeking are the alleged witnesses who saw the police firing on the crowd and the origin of the bullets that are non police issued. I doubt he would go down this road as it may lead right back to the AFC agents.

If they do not care to say anything they should say they refuse to answer and provide the reason. The idea that a professional cannot attest to the duration of a meeting is appalling. That the adjudicators allowed that laxity is sufficient for any right minded person to conclude the exercise is a farce.

 

Witnesses have attested to the fact that the police shot them. One police even denied his call name. Were he in the US giving evidence before a congressional commission he would be facing perjury.

FM
Originally Posted by antabanta:

Did I watch the wrong video? I see the cop refused to answer a legitimate question. I see Nigel Hughes ask the cop if he would want to shoot him (Nigel Hughes). What statement was Nigel Hughes being asked to retract? Why was the cop not directed to answer the questions?

He answered, could not remember the length of the discussion.  What was the purpose of Hughe's statement, what was it's relevance??

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by antabanta:

Did I watch the wrong video? I see the cop refused to answer a legitimate question. I see Nigel Hughes ask the cop if he would want to shoot him (Nigel Hughes). What statement was Nigel Hughes being asked to retract? Why was the cop not directed to answer the questions?

He answered, could not remember the length of the discussion.  What was the purpose of Hughe's statement, what was it's relevance??

Was it a discussion or a meeting? An evasion isn't an answer. You don't see anything wrong with the cop's evasion? What Hughes' statement are you referring to?

A
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

That is not a case before a judge with a defendant's liberty at stake. It was a commission whose adjudication ought to be with getting some a timeline hardened and to see if the facts fit. If the lying police would not even answer within a margin of many hours of leeway and the adjudicators allow  that looseness in "memory" as an excuse then  what is the purpose of the exercise?


The police have to be careful what they say since it could be used against them in criminal prosecution. What Nigel should be seeking are the alleged witnesses who saw the police firing on the crowd and the origin of the bullets that are non police issued. I doubt he would go down this road as it may lead right back to the AFC agents.

If they do not care to say anything they should say they refuse to answer and provide the reason. The idea that a professional cannot attest to the duration of a meeting is appalling. That the adjudicators allowed that laxity is sufficient for any right minded person to conclude the exercise is a farce.

 

Witnesses have attested to the fact that the police shot them. One police even denied his call name. Were he in the US giving evidence before a congressional commission he would be facing perjury.

Witnesses claimed that saw police shooting but they could not attest that the bullets were aimed or even hit protesters.  But the main vindication of police was the forensic evidence that showed the bullets were not police issued. You can not blame Hickson for not wanting to incriminate himself, you subscribe to this in your American system, remember the fifth amendment? 

FM
Originally Posted by antabanta:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by antabanta:

Did I watch the wrong video? I see the cop refused to answer a legitimate question. I see Nigel Hughes ask the cop if he would want to shoot him (Nigel Hughes). What statement was Nigel Hughes being asked to retract? Why was the cop not directed to answer the questions?

He answered, could not remember the length of the discussion.  What was the purpose of Hughe's statement, what was it's relevance??

Was it a discussion or a meeting? An evasion isn't an answer. You don't see anything wrong with the cop's evasion? What Hughes' statement are you referring to?

I watched the video. Can someone please explain to me what the big song and dance over Hughes' question "Shoot me?" is about? Thanks.

A

i guess these ppp fools never had play days that is why they so stupid .nigel did the right thing and walk out of that inquiry,a police office that cannot answer a simple question. this inquiry was an example of how the ppp run guyana,no respect for the guyanese people only for ass like nehru and the rest of racist collie

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

i guess these ppp fools never had play days that is why they so stupid .nigel did the right thing and walk out of that inquiry,a police office that cannot answer a simple question. this inquiry was an example of how the ppp run guyana,no respect for the guyanese people only for ass like nehru and the rest of racist collie

They instigated the mayhem and now don't want to take responsibility.  Why he running away from the mess which he was part of helping create.  Don't be a spoil brat and run in the closet after you "spill the milk".

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

That is not a case before a judge with a defendant's liberty at stake. It was a commission whose adjudication ought to be with getting some a timeline hardened and to see if the facts fit. If the lying police would not even answer within a margin of many hours of leeway and the adjudicators allow  that looseness in "memory" as an excuse then  what is the purpose of the exercise?


The police have to be careful what they say since it could be used against them in criminal prosecution. What Nigel should be seeking are the alleged witnesses who saw the police firing on the crowd and the origin of the bullets that are non police issued. I doubt he would go down this road as it may lead right back to the AFC agents.

If they do not care to say anything they should say they refuse to answer and provide the reason. The idea that a professional cannot attest to the duration of a meeting is appalling. That the adjudicators allowed that laxity is sufficient for any right minded person to conclude the exercise is a farce.

 

Witnesses have attested to the fact that the police shot them. One police even denied his call name. Were he in the US giving evidence before a congressional commission he would be facing perjury.

Witnesses claimed that saw police shooting but they could not attest that the bullets were aimed or even hit protesters.  But the main vindication of police was the forensic evidence that showed the bullets were not police issued. You can not blame Hickson for not wanting to incriminate himself, you subscribe to this in your American system, remember the fifth amendment? 

If police were shooting and no other say they saw protesters shooting one can infer the the probability of police hitting some thing...in this case people.

 

The police cannot be vindicated on account of the pellets not being standard use. The problem here is that it is easy for them to use nonstandard ammo as the cartridges were not collected and examined against striations of the particular fire arms used.

 

I blame him for unprofessionalism and for refusing to answer a perfunctory question as to the duration of a meeting.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

If police were shooting and no other say they saw protesters shooting one can infer the the probability of police hitting some thing...in this case people.

 

The police cannot be vindicated on account of the pellets not being standard use. The problem here is that it is easy for them to use nonstandard ammo as the cartridges were not collected and examined against striations of the particular fire arms used.

 

I blame him for unprofessionalism and for refusing to answer a perfunctory question as to the duration of a meeting.

Understand that the witnesses are to be considered hostile, since they were part of the protest and not just mere onlookers. These "witnesses" would not reveal the real shooters from within the ranks of rioters since they were brothers of the same cause. 

Hinkson was just trying to be precise with his answers, I don't see what Nigel stood to gain by establishing an exact time of the meeting. 

 You blame the witness but not Nigel Hughes for unprofessional heckling? 

The question to ask is whether the Black Jamaican on the COI was wrong to reprimand Nigel. Or was he just another paid PPP stooge?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

If police were shooting and no other say they saw protesters shooting one can infer the the probability of police hitting some thing...in this case people.

 

The police cannot be vindicated on account of the pellets not being standard use. The problem here is that it is easy for them to use nonstandard ammo as the cartridges were not collected and examined against striations of the particular fire arms used.

 

I blame him for unprofessionalism and for refusing to answer a perfunctory question as to the duration of a meeting.

Understand that the witnesses are to be considered hostile, since they were part of the protest and not just mere onlookers. These "witnesses" would not reveal the real shooters from within the ranks of rioters since they were brothers of the same cause. 

Hinkson was just trying to be precise with his answers, I don't see what Nigel stood to gain by establishing an exact time of the meeting. 

 You blame the witness but not Nigel Hughes for unprofessional heckling? 

The question to ask is whether the Black Jamaican on the COI was wrong to reprimand Nigel. Or was he just another paid PPP stooge?

This is a commission of inquiry not a court. It was convened so each side can present their evidence and procedural interrogation of witnesses allowed. One is not on trial. If they refuse to answer they simply hinder the investigation. No one is going to jail after this.

 

Dude, the Police killed these people through recklessness. Telling the dozen or so who were shot they were victimized by unknown assailants will not change what these people know. It simply reinforces in their mind the PPP are a criminal entity.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

This is a commission of inquiry not a court. It was convened so each side can present their evidence and procedural interrogation of witnesses allowed. One is not on trial. If they refuse to answer they simply hinder the investigation. No one is going to jail after this.

 

Dude, the Police killed these people through recklessness. Telling the dozen or so who were shot they were victimized by unknown assailants will not change what these people know. It simply reinforces in their mind the PPP are a criminal entity.

You can't expect the police to incriminate themselves. You claim that the police killed the protesters but you have no evidence other than your "gut" feeling. Notice how these so called witnesses have not seen the actual shooting but only saw police firing weapons. The police said they fired in the ground and in the air to scare off the advancing mob. These witnesses mistook the firing in the air and ground as evidence that the police were responsible for the killings. Meanwhile the real culprits  are getting a free pass as the AFC/PNC cover their trail. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

This is a commission of inquiry not a court. It was convened so each side can present their evidence and procedural interrogation of witnesses allowed. One is not on trial. If they refuse to answer they simply hinder the investigation. No one is going to jail after this.

 

Dude, the Police killed these people through recklessness. Telling the dozen or so who were shot they were victimized by unknown assailants will not change what these people know. It simply reinforces in their mind the PPP are a criminal entity.

You can't expect the police to incriminate themselves. You claim that the police killed the protesters but you have no evidence other than your "gut" feeling. Notice how these so called witnesses have not seen the actual shooting but only saw police firing weapons. The police said they fired in the ground and in the air to scare off the advancing mob. These witnesses mistook the firing in the air and ground as evidence that the police were responsible for the killings. Meanwhile the real culprits  are getting a free pass as the AFC/PNC cover their trail. 

 I expect that this fellow ought not to be shielding law breakers if there are any.

 

What witnesses said is irrelevant to the topic here. A PPP shill is trying to sell the story line of the PPP that Nigil is disrespectful.

 

In reality, one tasked with keeping the law and by that imperative one subject to defend the law has chosen to obfuscate and in short lie.

 

FM

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