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The people of Buxton today rejected calls for disruption of traffic, digging up of roads and protest using 'any means necessary' by the WPA and several other opposition activists. A group numbering 12 persons, bearing banners and placards, delayed traffic for about three minutes this morning but they failed to obtain the suppor
t of other Buxtonians whom they tried to coax into joining.
Today's action are a direct result of a call made by WPA Executive Member, David Hinds Thursday night when he urged villagers to occupy the road from Saturday morning around 7 O’clock. He also suggested that the thoroughfare be dug up as has been done in the past.
“One thing the Lindeners learn from us is how to barricade roads, how to dig up roads. I don’t have to teach you all in Buxton how to do that,” he told a public meeting on Buxton Railway Embankment.
“These roads belong to us and if this road belongs to us we decide who pass and who don’t pass,” he added.

Hinds, Freddie Kissoon, Tacuma Ogunseye and several other activists have been calling on residents to block the East Coast Demerara and East Bank Demerara main roads to join Linden in observing the one-month shooting death of three protesters and injuring of 20 others during clashes with police on July 18.
They said that the time has come for the tension gripping Linden to be felt in other parts of the country and so persons should stay on the coast and engage in protest action. “Buxton people stop train. On Saturday, stop car,” he said, adding that the time has come for “drastic” action.
Among the grievances that Hinds said should be addressed “by any means necessary” including peaceful and non-peaceful means” are bad governance, corruption, extra judicial killings and racial discrimination.

 

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“One thing the Lindeners learn from us is how to barricade roads, how to dig up roads. I don’t have to teach you all in Buxton how to do that,” he told a public meeting on Buxton Railway Embankment.

“These roads belong to us and if this road belongs to us we decide who pass and who don’t pass,” he added.
 
David Hinds
WPA Executive Member

Really???

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
“One thing the Lindeners learn from us is how to barricade roads, how to dig up roads. I don’t have to teach you all in Buxton how to do that,” he told a public meeting on Buxton Railway Embankment.

“These roads belong to us and if this road belongs to us we decide who pass and who don’t pass,” he added.
 
David Hinds
WPA Executive Member

Really???

Destroying of national infrastructure is a criminal offense.  Any leader who calls for it or participates in the protests should be held personable liable for the damage.  Any secondary or tertiary losses should be included and an avenue opened for citizens to file suits if a court judgement finds them guilty and liable.

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

am i missing something here,is this not the same buxtonians the ppp crime family was calling a bunch of murders and thief.we will wait and see

Yes you are missing something. Buxton has better sense that you do. They realize that disruption and breaking the law is not the way to go. And another thing the WPA is a spent force.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Destroying of national infrastructure is a criminal offense.  Any leader who calls for it or participates in the protests should be held personable liable for the damage.  Any secondary or tertiary losses should be included and an avenue opened for citizens to file suits if a court judgement finds them guilty and liable.

is that the latest 'release' from [not too smart] Anil's office?

 

how's the Kissoon libel suit coming along . . .?

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Destroying of national infrastructure is a criminal offense.  Any leader who calls for it or participates in the protests should be held personable liable for the damage.  Any secondary or tertiary losses should be included and an avenue opened for citizens to file suits if a court judgement finds them guilty and liable.

is that the latest 'release' from [not too smart] Anil's office?

 

how's the Kissoon libel suit coming along . . .?

This is already law.  They just need to apply and enforce it.  The GoG has been overly tolerant of inciters and hooliganism.

FM
Originally Posted by albert:

Its is commendable that the Buxtonians have rejected the opposition's call to turn their now peaceful and progressive village into another Linden

Buxtonians are apathetic. They have not rejected anything. They are never going to believe the PPP so the opposition has failed completely to mobilize them to action by sending silly confusing messages.

 

Their presence in solidarity is not to commemorate the martyrdom of three people. It is not to show sympathy with Lindeners or even to demonstrate a dislike for the PPP.

 

It ought to be for love of country, nationalism and democracy and to rescue it from the grasp of a conniving, disrespectful to black people, poor people and especially poor indian abusing coven called the PPP. It ought to be about a rescue mission for our society and for all people from the hands of petrified corruption made manifest by the PPP.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by albert:

Its is commendable that the Buxtonians have rejected the opposition's call to turn their now peaceful and progressive village into another Linden

Buxtonians are apathetic.

Hmm, go tell that to the many many Indian and moderate Afro victims living around that village.  The lil phantomization is the only thing which brought relief.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Destroying of national infrastructure is a criminal offense.  Any leader who calls for it or participates in the protests should be held personable liable for the damage.  Any secondary or tertiary losses should be included and an avenue opened for citizens to file suits if a court judgement finds them guilty and liable.

is that the latest 'release' from [not too smart] Anil's office?

 

how's the Kissoon libel suit coming along . . .?

This is already law.  They just need to apply and enforce it.  The GoG has been overly tolerant of inciters and hooliganism.

so, donate some of the 'spine' you seem to have in such abundance on GNI and have Anil and his minions "apply and enforce" . . .

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by albert:

Its is commendable that the Buxtonians have rejected the opposition's call to turn their now peaceful and progressive village into another Linden

Buxtonians are apathetic.

Hmm, go tell that to the many many Indian and moderate Afro victims living around that village.  The lil phantomization is the only thing which brought relief.

 Guess what, you are the first to cry foul when the reciprocal to the above began to take hold. Obviously you believe governments can use murder to prevent political dissent and if the opposition began to use the same strategy they are criminals. Make up your damn mind whether you have a moral core or not.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by albert:

Its is commendable that the Buxtonians have rejected the opposition's call to turn their now peaceful and progressive village into another Linden

Buxtonians are apathetic.

Hmm, go tell that to the many many Indian and moderate Afro victims living around that village.  The lil phantomization is the only thing which brought relief.

 Guess what, you are the first to cry foul when the reciprocal to the above began to take hold. Obviously you believe governments can use murder to prevent political dissent and if the opposition began to use the same strategy they are criminals. Make up your damn mind whether you have a moral core or not.

Actually Indians were soaking up the mayhem and violence mieted out against them.  They spent their days dodging bullets and their nights sleeping with one eye open.  If I remember correctly, it was the villains you cried foul when they themselves started killing each other.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Destroying of national infrastructure is a criminal offense.  Any leader who calls for it or participates in the protests should be held personable liable for the damage.  Any secondary or tertiary losses should be included and an avenue opened for citizens to file suits if a court judgement finds them guilty and liable.

is that the latest 'release' from [not too smart] Anil's office?

 

how's the Kissoon libel suit coming along . . .?

This is already law.  They just need to apply and enforce it.  The GoG has been overly tolerant of inciters and hooliganism.

so, donate some of the 'spine' you seem to have in such abundance on GNI and have Anil and his minions "apply and enforce" . . .

The GoG have the spine and means to address the issue when they see fit.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by albert:

Its is commendable that the Buxtonians have rejected the opposition's call to turn their now peaceful and progressive village into another Linden

Buxtonians are apathetic.

Hmm, go tell that to the many many Indian and moderate Afro victims living around that village.  The lil phantomization is the only thing which brought relief.

 Guess what, you are the first to cry foul when the reciprocal to the above began to take hold. Obviously you believe governments can use murder to prevent political dissent and if the opposition began to use the same strategy they are criminals. Make up your damn mind whether you have a moral core or not.

Actually Indians were soaking up the mayhem and violence mieted out against them.  They spent their days dodging bullets and their nights sleeping with one eye open.  If I remember correctly, it was the villains you cried foul when they themselves started killing each other.

 You lie like a skunk. I went back and read some of the posts and even Caribj never supported them but always argued that it is the injustices in the society wrought of Indian racism that is the progenitor curse to it all. I am going to put those threads up as son I can mass convert them to PDF so punks like you cannot lie about what you said. Meanwhile, when I get some time I will find some of the threads on the internet archives so others can see what a low life racist pig you are.

 

  I argued it was evil people bent on removing an elected government. I noted then if you played by the electoral rules then you ought to abide by it. I was always against extrajudicial killing even though at the time I did not believe the PPP were corrupt enough to be heading a gang of drug fiends as their agency of control.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Destroying of national infrastructure is a criminal offense.  Any leader who calls for it or participates in the protests should be held personable liable for the damage.  Any secondary or tertiary losses should be included and an avenue opened for citizens to file suits if a court judgement finds them guilty and liable.

is that the latest 'release' from [not too smart] Anil's office?

 

how's the Kissoon libel suit coming along . . .?

This is already law.  They just need to apply and enforce it.  The GoG has been overly tolerant of inciters and hooliganism.

so, donate some of the 'spine' you seem to have in such abundance on GNI and have Anil and his minions "apply and enforce" . . .

The GoG have the spine and means to address the issue when they see fit.

Dude . . . YOU'RE the one who's lamenting them being "overly tolerant"

 

Nehru-ization of your posts in full effect

FM

 


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AuthorTopic:   Barbarism or justice?
D2

Posts: 7814
From: NY
Registered: FEB 99

posted September 21, 1999 10:13 PM           
Armed robbers jailed, strokes ordered
Two men who pleaded guilty to armed robbery were on Friday jailed for eight years with a similar number of strokes each.

Somal Kumar Dyal of Fyrish, and Sherwin Saul of Number 19 Village, Corentyne, appeared before Magistrate Oscar Parvatan at the New Amsterdam Magistrate's Court, to answer jointly to four charges of robbery under arms.
Police Prosecutor, Cpl Anthony Karimbaksh, told the court that between August 29 and 31, the two committed the offences on Seonarine Chetram of Fyrish Road, Chamanlall Gopaul of Albion and Oanker Mooninauth of Number 19 Village, Corentyne.

They pleaded guilty to three of the charges, and were sentenced to four years imprisonment on each charge, two of which will run consecutively, along with eight strokes each.

[This message has been edited by D2 (edited 09-21-1999).]

bushmaster

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posted September 21, 1999 10:23 PM           
I say shoot them first and then try them.

When these men set out to rob and harm innocent people, then that is BARBARISM.

The Criminals, including members of the PNC party, believed that they will and can get away with their dangerous acts.
Justice will have to be done.


bushmaster

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posted September 21, 1999 10:27 PM           
Around 1900, the Police, Portugese and English plantation owners used to take Indians to the site of the Legislative Buildings and Flog them without a trial. All for not going to work on the sugar estates.
The Filthtown inhabitants used to come and enjoy the show.

No one came to the defence of these people then.
Why are you coming to the ? of these desperate criminals?

[This message has been edited by bushmaster (edited 09-21-1999).]

bushmaster

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posted September 21, 1999 10:33 PM           
Jah Punter gave himself up. He is accused of beating up an old Indo woman for her earings and bangle.
Jah Punter wants a bail?
If that woman was my mother then I would have shot the SOB right in the Law Courts. And then we will see.

[This message has been edited by bushmaster (edited 09-21-1999).]

BK

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posted September 21, 1999 10:58 PM           
And the cold-blooded killers are allowed to roam free on the streets.

Acts of barbarism!


D2

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From: NY
Registered: FEB 99

 

D2

Posts: 7814
From: NY
Registered: FEB 99

posted September 22, 1999 01:17 AM           
Do police benefit from human rights courses?
Dear Sir,

From an item carried in your issue of 99.08.29 it has been learnt that two senior police officers will be travelling overseas to attend a human rights sensitisation programme.

Not so long ago, a series of seminars intended to serve a similar purpose were held in Guyana, and scores of police personnel were `exposed'. To what end?

The only evident result of those efforts has been an increase in the level of insensitivity displayed by members of the force. They trample upon the rights of the public even more brutally.

Contributing to this disregard for either the forms or rules of proper law enforcement on the part of the lower ranks, is the attitude of their senior officers. For instance, on Friday 27th August, 1999 at about 1232 hours, a group of black clothes policemen stopped a man in the area of the Timehri mini-bus park, Stabroek, Georgetown.

At gun point, they forced him to strip naked before the milling crowd, tossing the food
items which he had in a hand bag onto the dusty road.
Wanton waste. While this was going on, two senior gazetted police officers drove past. They merely looked at the scene then drove on, giggling like two highly titillated schoolgirls.

This gross violation of the rights of this citizen was compounded by the fact that the assailant party of police, not having found anything incriminating, simply got back into their wagon and drove away. Their hapless victim was left naked, humiliated and crying in the street.

Thus are we served and have our fights protected by this force.

Yours faithfully,
CRB Edwards

Is this the behavior of a judicial system that wants the right to flog citizens? I hope this tiresome political system take note that this is the type of behavior was what they condemned. WHen I was beaten up by the police I complained to the Mirror and they willingly printed a blurb condemning it. Now it happens on their watch with regularity. This is insulting to people already being beaten down by poverty and rampant crime. It hardens the heart of the citizen to brutality and criminality and can turn to anarchy easily as happened on Jan 12, 1997.

Meharam Sugrim

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From: Vancouver, BC . Canada
Registered: AUG 1999

posted September 22, 1999 02:29 AM           
D2,
As a kid growing up in rural Guyana,I vividly remembered the days when we could go to bed with our doors and windows wide open. farmers will harvest their produce and leave it by the road side unattended for several days, and no one will touch it.It was ok for any responsible adult in the community to scold and discipline any juvenile delenquent, regardless of whose kid it was.The sight of a Policeman in uniform was greeted with a mixtiure of fear, reverence and respect. Those were the days of civic responsibilities and community pride & preservation. Those were the days of Law & Order. Those were the days of judges like Akbar Khan, the 'Angry God',who once sentenced a burglar to ten years plus ten stroke with the kat-o-nine tail, for stealing a cake of zex soap.Most importantly, those were the days when institutions were still independent and insulated from political interference, and Party Paramountcy. Oh what would I give for the return of those days! I wish all magistrates and judges will follow the example of Mr. Parvattan. Yes , I do agree with you that currupt politicians/ officials / police should suffer the same consequence as these low lives.And I would volunteer to administer the whipping at no charge to the tax payers.

------------------
MARA MAN




rabid

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posted September 22, 1999 08:17 AM           
D2;
I have come to the conclusion, by following some of the discourse on this site, and by following events in Guyana, that, most Guyanese are becoming barbaric in nature.

For example, when I was there recently, a seventeen year old kid amputated the leg of another youth, over some minor dispute.

There is no respect for any laws and the mores of the society lean towards corruption and anarchy. The simplistic solution is to order more hangings and floggings, but obviously that solution is not working. The sitting government has done nothing to revamp the police force or legal system, and the lawyers are not community minded enough, to seek out those egregious instances of social injustice that occur frequently, and sue the perpetrators.

We need pressure groups that would cry out change in the legal and enforcement systems in Guyana.

god

Posts: 896
From: almighty ruler from heaven
Registered: AUG 1999

posted September 22, 1999 09:01 AM           
If we could kill he innocent,tamed and friendly, unharmful animals why not kill the scums of human society?

D2

Posts: 7814
From: NY
Registered: FEB 99

posted September 22, 1999 10:37 AM           

Rabid,
I am ready to organize around such a pressure group. President Jagdeo is coming here. As long as he can do so uncontested we will not be heard. A pressure group will make him directly accountable for the types of civil rights violations that are beginning to be accepted as commonplace.


A pressure group will be able to have force because of universal reaction against barbarism like this. Jagdeo cannot tolerate 200 white American kids mixed with Guyanese at every speaking event or forum calling him a tyrant. Maybe that is what these people need to wake them up to the judicial incompetence and criminal class that is being nurtured in a backward landscape. I would also want to know why Guyana took a step back from the UN declaration of human rights. If this is to be policy we are on the wrong road and I will fight against it because in principle it is abhorrent.


D2

Posts: 7814
From: NY
Registered: FEB 99

posted September 22, 1999 10:39 AM           
Hari,
That would include idiots like you.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

so, donate some of the 'spine' you seem to have in such abundance on GNI and have Anil and his minions "apply and enforce" . . .

The GoG have the spine and means to address the issue when they see fit.

Dude . . . YOU'RE the one who's lamenting them being "overly tolerant"

 

Nehru-ization of your posts in full effect

Actually, they are very tolerant but I understand.  However, if anyone tries to destroy national infrastructure, they should act decisively.  Thus far, apart from Linden, all else seems under control.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

so, donate some of the 'spine' you seem to have in such abundance on GNI and have Anil and his minions "apply and enforce" . . .

The GoG have the spine and means to address the issue when they see fit.

Dude . . . YOU'RE the one who's lamenting them being "overly tolerant"

 

Nehru-ization of your posts in full effect

Actually, they are very tolerant but I understand.  However, if anyone tries to destroy national infrastructure, they should act decisively.  Thus far, apart from Linden, all else seems under control.

my advice to U: sometimes it's better to quit while you're 'ahead' rather than double down in vain hope of salvaging pride . . . and confirm what a confused tool U are.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

Dude . . . YOU'RE the one who's lamenting them being "overly tolerant"

 

Nehru-ization of your posts in full effect

Actually, they are very tolerant but I understand.  However, if anyone tries to destroy national infrastructure, they should act decisively.  Thus far, apart from Linden, all else seems under control.

my advice to U: sometimes it's better to quit while you're 'ahead' rather than double down in vain hope of salvaging pride . . . and confirm what a confused tool U are.

The GoG is VERY tolerant,

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

Dude . . . YOU'RE the one who's lamenting them being "overly tolerant"

 

Nehru-ization of your posts in full effect

Actually, they are very tolerant but I understand.  However, if anyone tries to destroy national infrastructure, they should act decisively.  Thus far, apart from Linden, all else seems under control.

my advice to U: sometimes it's better to quit while you're 'ahead' rather than double down in vain hope of salvaging pride . . . and confirm what a confused tool U are.

The GoG is VERY tolerant,

The government is as crooked as you are a liar.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

my advice to U: sometimes it's better to quit while you're 'ahead' rather than double down in vain hope of salvaging pride . . . and confirm what a confused tool U are.

The GoG is VERY tolerant,

The government is as crooked as you are a liar.

What can one say, "one man's meat is another man's poison".  The GoG is, and has always been, very tolerant then they react and all hell breaks lose.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:

Dude . . . YOU'RE the one who's lamenting them being "overly tolerant"

 

Nehru-ization of your posts in full effect

Actually, they are very tolerant but I understand.  However, if anyone tries to destroy national infrastructure, they should act decisively.  Thus far, apart from Linden, all else seems under control.

my advice to U: sometimes it's better to quit while you're 'ahead' rather than double down in vain hope of salvaging pride . . . and confirm what a confused tool U are.

The GoG is VERY tolerant,

apropos of . . .?

FM
Originally Posted by albert:

Its is commendable that the Buxtonians have rejected the opposition's call to turn their now peaceful and progressive village into another Linden

Albert can you tell us why 95% of the African mixed voters rejected the PPP last year, even as you all boasted that you will makie majo0r break throughs.  The PNC did way better in region 4 in 2011 than it did in 2006, so clearly Buxtonians and other majority African villages didnt vote PPP.

 

Buxtonians see no reason why they should face police bullets when that villahge is recivering from its problems frpom a few years ago.  This and not support for the PPP is wh they went about their business.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by albert:

 

Buxtonians see no reason why they should face police bullets when that villahge is recivering from its problems frpom a few years ago.  This and not support for the PPP is wh they went about their business.

And you came to this conclusion from your humble abode many miles away having never visited Guyana in how many years..........ummm lets say more than 20...........

SAY NO TO DRUGS!

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
hope of salvaging pride . . . and confirm what a confused tool U are.

The GoG is VERY tolerant,


Killing three people, and injuring many others, who were merely protesting is your idea of tolerance.

 

I know if this ocurred in Rose hall and sugar workers were the ones impacted your song would have been different.

 

That day might well come.

 

Burnham harrassed the sugar workers, knowing that he was demonstrating to his constituency that he was keeping "Dem collie in dey place". He then went to Linden and did the same thing.

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by albert:

 

Buxtonians see no reason why they should face police bullets when that villahge is recivering from its problems frpom a few years ago.  This and not support for the PPP is wh they went about their business.

And you came to this conclusion from your humble abode many miles away having never visited Guyana in how many years..........ummm lets say more than 20...........

SAY NO TO DRUGS!

albert how many votes did the PPP get in Linden?  How many in 2006 and how many in 2011? How many did they get in region 4, which is almsot 40% Indian, the 2002 census says 38%, vs 42% African.  How many in 2006 and how many in 2011?

 

From what you get doi you think that the PPP is much liked in places like Buxton, South Gtwn and Linden?

 

Buxtonians have to earn a living so have no time for destroying the same raods that they need to use.  This has nothing to do with any endorsement of the PPP and its actions in Linden.

 

An yes I live 2500 miles away and know this based upon data that YOUR government provides.  So how come you dont?

FM

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