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Originally Posted by caribny:

And to their credit they do have Indians among the group, even apparently keeping Bayney Karran.  I have never heard a negative remark about him, even by those who oppose the PPP.  Good showing.

 

Carib, Bayney Karran was never a PPP fanatic. He respected the party and that was the limit during the Jagans era.

The PNC people know that.

Here's some more: I was told that Forbes Burnham himself gave Bayney his first job in 1977 as a radio announcer by instructing the GM of Radio Demerara to hire him. Politics aside, Burnham highly respected Bayney's father Boysie Ramkarran.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

It's nice to know Clarissa Riehl is coming to Canada. She is a no-nonsense woman who speaks her mind but she will have to talk diplomatic talk now.

This appears to be another square peg in a round hole. Ambassadorship should not be a political reward. The person would be representing Guyana and need to have class and proper etiquette, not like Granger who buse down Maduro on the world stage and caused the petro carib deal to be cancelled. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by TK:

I am so glad things worked out for Ms Riehl. See I was not trying to steal her job.

did she say that?....just asking?

It was implied. It is the motivation. It is a bout patronage.

So you admit you were passed over for those with more political clout who deserved a reward with lil ambassada wuk. 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by caribny:

And to their credit they do have Indians among the group, even apparently keeping Bayney Karran.  I have never heard a negative remark about him, even by those who oppose the PPP.  Good showing.

 

Carib, Bayney Karran was never a PPP fanatic. He respected the party and that was the limit during the Jagans era.

The PNC people know that.

Here's some more: I was told that Forbes Burnham himself gave Bayney his first job in 1977 as a radio announcer by instructing the GM of Radio Demerara to hire him. Politics aside, Burnham highly respected Bayney's father Boysie Ramkarran.


Which is why he has a good reputation in all corners, and was not accused of being partisan.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

It's nice to know Clarissa Riehl is coming to Canada. She is a no-nonsense woman who speaks her mind but she will have to talk diplomatic talk now.

This appears to be another square peg in a round hole. Ambassadorship should not be a political reward. The person would be representing Guyana and need to have class and proper etiquette, not like Granger who buse down Maduro on the world stage and caused the petro carib deal to be cancelled. 


Funny thing.

 

1.  the PPP sent Killaman as ambassador to Brazil.  Yes the man who was frequently drunk, and he pistol whipped a PPP supporter because he was speaking to a woman who killaman had his eyes on.

 

2.  Aside from Bayney Karran and Odeen Ishmael, and yes Cheryl Miles before the PPP forced her out to make way for another PPP thug, almost NONE of the PPP appointed "diplomats" had any class.

 

3.  Priya bused down the US ambassador.  Jagdeo used to cuss out the USA and the UK.  He screamed and cried and had a mental break down when T&T handed over RK to the Americans.  Even wanted to leave CARICOM.

 

Interesting that your idea of diplomacy is begging a dictator who frequently attacks your country.  "Me sarry dat me let dem Americans come look for oil in YOUR territory.  Me only let dem in because elections coming and me had to fool up dem Guyanese, but me plan to chase dem out and hand over de oil to you.  Please buy me rice because nobady don want it".

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

It's nice to know Clarissa Riehl is coming to Canada. She is a no-nonsense woman who speaks her mind but she will have to talk diplomatic talk now.

This appears to be another square peg in a round hole. Ambassadorship should not be a political reward. The person would be representing Guyana and need to have class and proper etiquette, not like Granger who buse down Maduro on the world stage and caused the petro carib deal to be cancelled. 


Funny thing.

 

1.  the PPP sent Killaman as ambassador to Brazil.  Yes the man who was frequently drunk, and he pistol whipped a PPP supporter because he was speaking to a woman who killaman had his eyes on.

 

2.  Aside from Bayney Karran and Odeen Ishmael, and yes Cheryl Miles before the PPP forced her out to make way for another PPP thug, almost NONE of the PPP appointed "diplomats" had any class.

 

3.  Priya bused down the US ambassador.  Jagdeo used to cuss out the USA and the UK.  He screamed and cried and had a mental break down when T&T handed over RK to the Americans.  Even wanted to leave CARICOM.

 

Interesting that your idea of diplomacy is begging a dictator who frequently attacks your country.  "Me sarry dat me let dem Americans come look for oil in YOUR territory.  Me only let dem in because elections coming and me had to fool up dem Guyanese, but me plan to chase dem out and hand over de oil to you.  Please buy me rice because nobady don want it".

 

I am not sure why you keep deferring to the PPP, they are long gone and the afc/apnu is now in power. Let us not justify their actions because the PPP may have had similar records of cronyism. They were supposed to be the party of change and anti corruption. However we see that it is very well alive and well in this new breed of crooks. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
.  "Me sarry dat me let dem Americans come look for oil in YOUR territory.  Me only let dem in because elections coming and me had to fool up dem Guyanese, but me plan to chase dem out and hand over de oil to you.  Please buy me rice because nobady don want it".

 

I am not sure why you keep deferring to the PPP, they are long gone and the afc/apnu is now in power. Let us not justify their actions because the PPP may have had similar records of cronyism. They were supposed to be the party of change and anti corruption. However we see that it is very well alive and well in this new breed of crooks. 

Well you claim that they were better diplomats so letting you know what kind of diplomacy they engaged in is instructive to you.

 

You do NOT cave into a bully, unless you want to the bully to continue to bully you.   You find allies stronger than the bully, which is what Granger did. Maduro then removed his soldiers from the border, when during PPP rule when ever they got bored they came over, beat up Guyanese, raped one or two, and destroyed their property.

 

Jagdeo then ran in his corner to hide and did NOT demand an apology or compensation.  That is your idea of appropriate diplomacy!

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
.  "Me sarry dat me let dem Americans come look for oil in YOUR territory.  Me only let dem in because elections coming and me had to fool up dem Guyanese, but me plan to chase dem out and hand over de oil to you.  Please buy me rice because nobady don want it".

 

I am not sure why you keep deferring to the PPP, they are long gone and the afc/apnu is now in power. Let us not justify their actions because the PPP may have had similar records of cronyism. They were supposed to be the party of change and anti corruption. However we see that it is very well alive and well in this new breed of crooks. 

Well you claim that they were better diplomats so letting you know what kind of diplomacy they engaged in is instructive to you.

 

You do NOT cave into a bully, unless you want to the bully to continue to bully you.   You find allies stronger than the bully, which is what Granger did. Maduro then removed his soldiers from the border, when during PPP rule when ever they got bored they came over, beat up Guyanese, raped one or two, and destroyed their property.

 

Jagdeo then ran in his corner to hide and did NOT demand an apology or compensation.  That is your idea of appropriate diplomacy!

Not true at all, if not for exxon, Maduro's army would be in Georgetown now with Granger hanging by his feet from one of Cuffy's masturbating arm. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

Not true at all, if not for exxon, Maduro's army would be in Georgetown now with Granger hanging by his feet from one of Cuffy's masturbating arm. 

Dream that lie if you wish to do so.  Had Maduro done so he would have faced immediate sanctions, as Colombia would have insisted upon it, as Maduro has eyes on their territory as well.  He would have used a sucessful invasion of Guyana as a precedent to do the same to Colombia.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
.  "Me sarry dat me let dem Americans come look for oil in YOUR territory.  Me only let dem in because elections coming and me had to fool up dem Guyanese, but me plan to chase dem out and hand over de oil to you.  Please buy me rice because nobady don want it".

 

I am not sure why you keep deferring to the PPP, they are long gone and the afc/apnu is now in power. Let us not justify their actions because the PPP may have had similar records of cronyism. They were supposed to be the party of change and anti corruption. However we see that it is very well alive and well in this new breed of crooks. 

Well you claim that they were better diplomats so letting you know what kind of diplomacy they engaged in is instructive to you.

 

You do NOT cave into a bully, unless you want to the bully to continue to bully you.   You find allies stronger than the bully, which is what Granger did. Maduro then removed his soldiers from the border, when during PPP rule when ever they got bored they came over, beat up Guyanese, raped one or two, and destroyed their property.

 

Jagdeo then ran in his corner to hide and did NOT demand an apology or compensation.  That is your idea of appropriate diplomacy!

Not true at all, if not for exxon, Maduro's army would be in Georgetown now with Granger hanging by his feet from one of Cuffy's masturbating arm. 

And you happy bout dat, BG_S?

Ow man, Maduro is no Liberator, if you're looking for one.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
And you happy bout dat, BG_S?

Ow man, Maduro is no Liberator, if you're looking for one.

 

Gilly, I don't care for Maduro but Granger need to be more diplomatic when dealing with bullies as Guyana is now paying the price with the lost petro carib deal. Granger acted like a Albouystown bully when he could have made a better response at the UN to Venezuela. 

FM

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