Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) surveillance is a proven element in crime fighting. We need to take advantage of this. One of the biggest factors in the growth of crime is the belief by criminals that they can commit their acts with impunity and get away with it.
CCTV is the way of the future to put a dent in crime in Guyana. It will no doubt serve as a deterrent to would-be offenders. But it is only as good as the people who operate the system.
Not much will improve in fighting crime if the morals in the law enforcement agencies are not addressed. Neither will much improve if there is continued corruption in those institutions. The police force in particular must improve its image.
The willingness to use CCTV to fight crime is long overdue. It is a proactive approach.

CCTV is not all good.  It could uncover dem lil OPP shenanigans!

Baseman posted:

CCTV is not all good.  It could uncover dem lil OPP shenanigans!

The more reasons to support its use and have it uploaded like to the "Cloud" as immediate back up. Post it on YouTube for all to see.

Headline is wrong, it does not fight crime.

Ow man Abu is wuh wrong to you eh? Crime fighting doesn't necessarily mean a banna with a gun taking on bad dudes. Dem people want to fight crime so they plan on using cameras...hence the heading "CCTV and crime fighting."

Somebady get big contract and camera nah wuk, bad idea for corrupted guyana.

Abu Jihad posted:

Somebady get big contract and camera nah wuk, bad idea for corrupted guyana.

I doan think dem guys using Alexie on this job but you got a point, someone has to monitor these cameras and hopefully its not someone inside the pen.

Abhu, I sent one from Costco to my family in GT with all the software for internet hookup. Not expensive.

Ramjattan is a dumbest and most incapable in fighting crime. Guyanese will start sending Cameras to relatives like how they are now sending massive amounts  of Barrels to Guyana. The nasty cycle of PNC crime haven and hungry belly state have exceeded PNC part One.

Granger will continue releasing and pardoning mostly Black criminals to wreck havoc on the population by reoffending.

The buck stops at idiots Ramjattan's and Granger's desk.

Mitwah posted:

Abhu, I sent one from Costco to my family in GT with all the software for internet hookup. Not expensive.

Eh Eh Mit what happen bai!! Your coalition government promised to curb crime as a  BIG promise .Now you gat expense. ( Asked Djanjo to submit the invoice for reimbursement ) 

Hear nah, save more money fo them family ... them police car ran out a gas and them gon want a top up .

It is sickening how these cops operate as though they answer to no one and did what the hell they like. Unfortunately while the PPP were in office they did nothing to change this mindset. Now the APNU govt has to try to undo over 50 yrs of this type of thinking...it is an uphill battle.

Dave posted:

Mitwah posted:

Abhu, I sent one from Costco to my family in GT with all the software for internet hookup. Not expensive.

Eh Eh Mit what happen bai!! Your coalition government promised to curb crime as a  BIG promise .Now you gat expense. ( Asked Djanjo to submit the invoice for reimbursement ) 

Hear nah, save more money fo them family ... them police car ran out a gas and them gon want a top up .

Fighting crime is every one's business. You guys have to stop waiting on Rohee or Ramjattan. Dem are no Clint Eastwood.

Crime is down under the current regime.

cain posted:

It is sickening how these cops operate as though they answer to no one and did what the hell they like. Unfortunately while the PPP were in office they did nothing to change this mindset. Now the APNU govt has to try to undo over 50 yrs of this type of thinking...it is an uphill battle.

Dave is an excellent example of that kind of mindset.

Mitwah posted:

cain posted:

It is sickening how these cops operate as though they answer to no one and did what the hell they like. Unfortunately while the PPP were in office they did nothing to change this mindset. Now the APNU govt has to try to undo over 50 yrs of this type of thinking...it is an uphill battle.

Dave is an excellent example of that kind of mindset.

If the third force had focus only on eradicating criminals , Guyana would have been in a better place today . 

The police force heads and arm top brass was control by Congress Place . 

PPP and PNC are to blame . 

PPP was busy filling their pockets,and ignore their supporters  .PNC undermine the government by destabilizing the country . 

Now its the opposite way . The monster the PNC created has come back to haunt them. And the country suffer. 

Dave posted:

Mitwah posted:

cain posted:

It is sickening how these cops operate as though they answer to no one and did what the hell they like. Unfortunately while the PPP were in office they did nothing to change this mindset. Now the APNU govt has to try to undo over 50 yrs of this type of thinking...it is an uphill battle.

Dave is an excellent example of that kind of mindset.

If the third force had focus only on eradicating criminals , Guyana would have been in a better place today . 

The police force heads and arm top brass was control by Congress Place . 

PPP and PNC are to blame . 

PPP was busy filling their pockets,and ignore their supporters  .PNC undermine the government by destabilizing the country . 

Now its the opposite way . The monster the PNC created has come back to haunt them. And the country suffer. 

 

Ahmm quite interesting.

Guyana had some classy Police Commissioners,two stand out ,Lloyd Barker and Balram Raghubir,affer  their retirement the GPF professionalism went down hill.

Mitwah posted:

Dave posted:

Mitwah posted:

Abhu, I sent one from Costco to my family in GT with all the software for internet hookup. Not expensive.

Eh Eh Mit what happen bai!! Your coalition government promised to curb crime as a  BIG promise .Now you gat expense. ( Asked Djanjo to submit the invoice for reimbursement ) 

Hear nah, save more money fo them family ... them police car ran out a gas and them gon want a top up .

Fighting crime is every one's business. You guys have to stop waiting on Rohee or Ramjattan. Dem are no Clint Eastwood.

Crime is down under the current regime.

Ramjattan thought he was Clint Eastwood.  When he got the job he wanted so badly, he suddenly realized the he is Dead wood.  Telling everyone "Haul yuh Ass" won't get the job done.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

Ramjattan thought he was Clint Eastwood.  When he got the job he wanted so badly, he suddenly realized the he is Dead wood.  Telling everyone "Haul yuh Ass" won't get the job done.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Dave posted:

Mitwah posted:

Abhu, I sent one from Costco to my family in GT with all the software for internet hookup. Not expensive.

Eh Eh Mit what happen bai!! Your coalition government promised to curb crime as a  BIG promise .Now you gat expense. ( Asked Djanjo to submit the invoice for reimbursement ) 

Hear nah, save more money fo them family ... them police car ran out a gas and them gon want a top up .

Fighting crime is every one's business. You guys have to stop waiting on Rohee or Ramjattan. Dem are no Clint Eastwood.

Crime is down under the current regime.

Ramjattan thought he was Clint Eastwood.  When he got the job he wanted so badly, he suddenly realized the he is Dead wood.  Telling everyone "Haul yuh Ass" won't get the job done.

This one gave me a good laugh!😁

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Dave posted:

Mitwah posted:

Abhu, I sent one from Costco to my family in GT with all the software for internet hookup. Not expensive.

Eh Eh Mit what happen bai!! Your coalition government promised to curb crime as a  BIG promise .Now you gat expense. ( Asked Djanjo to submit the invoice for reimbursement ) 

Hear nah, save more money fo them family ... them police car ran out a gas and them gon want a top up .

Fighting crime is every one's business. You guys have to stop waiting on Rohee or Ramjattan. Dem are no Clint Eastwood.

Crime is down under the current regime.

Ramjattan thought he was Clint Eastwood.  When he got the job he wanted so badly, he suddenly realized the he is Dead wood.  Telling everyone "Haul yuh Ass" won't get the job done.

Ramjattan never had the country or people interest at heart. He was just out for revenge after being kicked out of the PPP. He will be remember as the David who slew Goliath [PPP] though...

One of my uncles told me that Kanwa bai's father was a headmaster. They lived at # 48 village next door to my ajee(my paternal grandfather's sister). So the man had good bringing up. Wonder what caused the man to hate his adversaries? Maybe an injury to his eye?

skeldon_man posted:

One of my uncles told me that Kanwa bai's father was a headmaster. They lived at # 48 village next door to my ajee(my paternal grandfather's sister). So the man had good bringing up. Wonder what caused the man to hate his adversaries? Maybe an injury to his eye?

Well ,why would you employ a one man to do Watchman work, crimes are committed right under his watchful eyes.

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

Ramjattan thought he was Clint Eastwood.  When he got the job he wanted so badly, he suddenly realized the he is Dead wood.  Telling everyone "Haul yuh Ass" won't get the job done.

She is being funny. 

kp posted:

skeldon_man posted:

One of my uncles told me that Kanwa bai's father was a headmaster. They lived at # 48 village next door to my ajee(my paternal grandfather's sister). So the man had good bringing up. Wonder what caused the man to hate his adversaries? Maybe an injury to his eye?

Well ,why would you employ a one man to do Watchman work, crimes are committed right under his watchful eyes.

KP, my grandfather was a night watchman and he lived close to the Ramjattans. No on ever stole from the place he was working, even though he had poor eyesight. If my grandfather was alive, I would have recommended Kanwa bai to get lessons from him.

Mitwah posted:

A nation is a reflection of the sum total of individual action. Each one of us, in a spirit of service, should always strive to build the country. In such a quest, we have to examine and change the things that have hindered progress for decades and promote those that will advance it. One of the latter things is crime, which continues to plague society. We must commit ourselves to take initiatives to end this scourge. We must use ingenuity and technology.
Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) surveillance is a proven element in crime fighting. We need to take advantage of this. One of the biggest factors in the growth of crime is the belief by criminals that they can commit their acts with impunity and get away with it.
CCTV is the way of the future to put a dent in crime in Guyana. It will no doubt serve as a deterrent to would-be offenders. But it is only as good as the people who operate the system.
Not much will improve in fighting crime if the morals in the law enforcement agencies are not addressed. Neither will much improve if there is continued corruption in those institutions. The police force in particular must improve its image.
The willingness to use CCTV to fight crime is long overdue. It is a proactive approach. However, there are some CCTV opponents who feel that it represents an invasion of citizens’ privacy and allows ‘big brother’ government to spy on the citizenry. Those of this stripe believe that the issue of the invasion of privacy outweighs the advantages that CCTV systems will deliver for the public good. There are others who have argued that there is no empirical evidence that CCTV systems deter criminal activity.
The truth is the CCTV systems will undoubtedly invade the privacy of all of us as it seeks to curtail the illicit and damaging behaviour of some. Opponents of CCTV ought to know that personal privacy in the public space should not supersede safety. Those who oppose this technological advancement because it invades their privacy do have a valid point, but the question is: Why would anyone oppose being recorded in public if they are on the right side of the law.
While CCTV surveillance is a good start, it alone will not serve crime. It has repeatedly been emphasised that a bipartisan approach is needed to help reduce crime. It is the best gift our political leaders could give to this generation. It would be a refreshing experience that perhaps, finally, the nation can begin to tackle crime from a united standpoint.
More often than not, people spend a lot of time criticizing the authorities for their failure to deal effectively with crime that has enveloped our society. This is an opportunity for us to change our negative opinions and appreciate the hard work of the truly dedicated crime-fighters who give of themselves tirelessly, and at great sacrifice, to serve and protect us. Let us all, regardless of our ethnicity or political affiliation, seize the opportunity and join them to make Guyana a crime-free country.
The two basic responsibilities of any government is to provide justice and defend the citizens or what is referred to as ‘public safety and security’ of the citizens. The responsibility of the justice system is to punish criminals and other violators of the law. The inability to adequately carry out these functions would be an indication of governmental failure. The use of technology such as CCTV to fight crime and improve public safety should be supported.

Source:

Ok I see some fellas are bent on derailing the thread. The topic is about CCTV and Crime Fight. It's being used here successfully in Vaughn and Toronto and the GTA.

Rohee under the PPP already tried that years ago and never even get off the ground. I would like to be positive but I don't think this current  Regime is capable of pulling it off. Just wait and see which crony dinosaur the put in charge...

Mitwah posted:

Mitwah posted:

A nation is a reflection of the sum total of individual action. Each one of us, in a spirit of service, should always strive to build the country. In such a quest, we have to examine and change the things that have hindered progress for decades and promote those that will advance it. One of the latter things is crime, which continues to plague society. We must commit ourselves to take initiatives to end this scourge. We must use ingenuity and technology.
Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) surveillance is a proven element in crime fighting. We need to take advantage of this. One of the biggest factors in the growth of crime is the belief by criminals that they can commit their acts with impunity and get away with it.
CCTV is the way of the future to put a dent in crime in Guyana. It will no doubt serve as a deterrent to would-be offenders. But it is only as good as the people who operate the system.
Not much will improve in fighting crime if the morals in the law enforcement agencies are not addressed. Neither will much improve if there is continued corruption in those institutions. The police force in particular must improve its image.
The willingness to use CCTV to fight crime is long overdue. It is a proactive approach. However, there are some CCTV opponents who feel that it represents an invasion of citizens’ privacy and allows ‘big brother’ government to spy on the citizenry. Those of this stripe believe that the issue of the invasion of privacy outweighs the advantages that CCTV systems will deliver for the public good. There are others who have argued that there is no empirical evidence that CCTV systems deter criminal activity.
The truth is the CCTV systems will undoubtedly invade the privacy of all of us as it seeks to curtail the illicit and damaging behaviour of some. Opponents of CCTV ought to know that personal privacy in the public space should not supersede safety. Those who oppose this technological advancement because it invades their privacy do have a valid point, but the question is: Why would anyone oppose being recorded in public if they are on the right side of the law.
While CCTV surveillance is a good start, it alone will not serve crime. It has repeatedly been emphasised that a bipartisan approach is needed to help reduce crime. It is the best gift our political leaders could give to this generation. It would be a refreshing experience that perhaps, finally, the nation can begin to tackle crime from a united standpoint.
More often than not, people spend a lot of time criticizing the authorities for their failure to deal effectively with crime that has enveloped our society. This is an opportunity for us to change our negative opinions and appreciate the hard work of the truly dedicated crime-fighters who give of themselves tirelessly, and at great sacrifice, to serve and protect us. Let us all, regardless of our ethnicity or political affiliation, seize the opportunity and join them to make Guyana a crime-free country.
The two basic responsibilities of any government is to provide justice and defend the citizens or what is referred to as ‘public safety and security’ of the citizens. The responsibility of the justice system is to punish criminals and other violators of the law. The inability to adequately carry out these functions would be an indication of governmental failure. The use of technology such as CCTV to fight crime and improve public safety should be supported.

Source:

Ok I see some fellas are bent on derailing the thread. The topic is about CCTV and Crime Fight. It's being used here successfully in Vaughn and Toronto and the GTA.

The average Guyanaese don’t have brains to think positive . When they arrived at Uncle Sam - the very first day , they behave like civilize citizen .

I agree with you and the cameras .

sachin_05 posted:

Rohee under the PPP already tried that years ago and never even get off the ground. I would like to be positive but I don't think this current  Regime is capable of pulling it off. Just wait and see which crony dinosaur the put in charge...

Sach, not because Rohee tried and failed, we should give up. The Citizens need to take this matter into their  own hands. My relative looked it up on line and found  a relative inexpensive model that he has installed on various properties. They are all battery backup operated so that if there is a blackout there is a seamless kick in by the batteries.  

Dave posted:

 

The average Guyanaese don’t have brains to think positive . When they arrived at Uncle Sam - the very first day , they behave like civilize citizen .

I agree with you and the cameras .

I was very surprised to find very smart talented Guyanese and who were technically competent. Many of them learnt from the seat of their pants. Many of these young folks need some kind of motivation. 

They come here to Toronto and many are doing even better that some Guyanese born here.

I say do like the USA, allow the Guyanese the right to bear arms. The police are scared to do their jobs, if a few bandits get some lead in their behinds , the up and coming bandits will think twice to attack.

 The banks have camera but when you leave the banks with your bag of money then the motor bike gang comes and snatch your bag.

 If the government wants the citizens to get involve, have a snitch line, offer a cash reward if you know who are the criminals, employees at the banks and at the airport if caught forwarding customers or passengers personal information must be charged and fired immediately.

kp posted:

I say do like the USA, allow the Guyanese the right to bear arms. The police are scared to do their jobs, if a few bandits get some lead in their behinds , the up and coming bandits will think twice to attack.

 The banks have camera but when you leave the banks with your bag of money then the motor bike gang comes and snatch your bag.

 If the government wants the citizens to get involve, have a snitch line, offer a cash reward if you know who are the criminals, employees at the banks and at the airport if caught forwarding customers or passengers personal information must be charged and fired immediately.

Have you ever wonder why the police don't review the internal cameras in bank - the very teller that might walk away from the counter or visiting the bathroom right after servicing the customer. 

kp posted:

I say do like the USA, allow the Guyanese the right to bear arms. The police are scared to do their jobs, if a few bandits get some lead in their behinds , the up and coming bandits will think twice to attack.

 The banks have camera but when you leave the banks with your bag of money then the motor bike gang comes and snatch your bag.

 If the government wants the citizens to get involve, have a snitch line, offer a cash reward if you know who are the criminals, employees at the banks and at the airport if caught forwarding customers or passengers personal information must be charged and fired immediately.

Have you ever wonder why the police cannot set up a sting operation? They are probably involved in the crime.

Mitwah posted:

sachin_05 posted:

Rohee under the PPP already tried that years ago and never even get off the ground. I would like to be positive but I don't think this current  Regime is capable of pulling it off. Just wait and see which crony dinosaur the put in charge...

Sach, not because Rohee tried and failed, we should give up. The Citizens need to take this matter into their  own hands. My relative looked it up on line and found  a relative inexpensive model that he has installed on various properties. They are all battery backup operated so that if there is a blackout there is a seamless kick in by the batteries.  

 

Like I said I love to be positive but its like when we use to anticipate the line phones to enable response time by cops to robbery in progress. To this day even with cell phones in everyone hands 911 is yet to even answer calls and dispatch any help in timely manner. 

Actually cell phones in Guyana has been more of a help to robbers than victims. Tellers or someone within the banks conspire with cell phones identify folks leaving banks with cash. The banks always has wired up, but with all the cameras they are yet to find any co- conspirators within the bank.

Employment opportunities and low overall income[except at the top]in Guyana make it different  from the rest of the Caribbean, not sure If cameras gona change that...