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Chand to Holder: ‘Tell the public which sugar workers are highest paid’

 

Wednesday , October 28 2015, Citizen’s Report, Source

 

A CHALLENGE has been put to Agriculture Minister, Noel Holder, to substantiate his statement that, “GuySuCo workers are the highest paid in the country” – a comment made in response to the three-day strike action mounted by sugar workers.   President of the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU), Komal Chand, told Citizens’ Report that the Minister should release the salary scales of every category of worker to clarify the issue.

“GAWU challenges him to come public and disclose the average earning of every category of sugar worker. If he wants to say that the sugar workers are the highest paid the he must release the numbers for every category of worker, the cane cutters, weeders and shovel men and so on,” Chand said.

The GAWU President argued that Holder not only misled the public is saying that GuySuCo workers are the highest paid, particularly since he linked that comment to that fact sugar workers moved to a strike action to call for an increase.


He added that Holder’s disclosure that the GuySuCo Commission of Inquiry (CoI) report is what informed his comment is another a fallacy.


“GAWU had a member on the CoI and that was the opinion of one commissioner not the whole commission, so to convey that statement as the position the full Commission is also misleading the public. It was the view of one and one person,” Chand said.

The GAWU President expressed the hope the “wisdom will prevail” and held the same contention when asked for an update on the strike action.

“The strike has ended to allow GuySuCo to reflect on the violation of the agreement, which we have in a letter, so that we can sit and meet.


GAWU, which represents hundreds of sugar workers, submitted it wage claim to GuySuCo since March 08, 2015. Subsequently, on September 16, 2015, Chand said that the Union was informed that negotiations would start on October 7, 2015. However, a day before that date, GAWU was told that there would be no negotiations until Cabinet considers the report by the Commission of Inquiry.

A week after the report was completed, two weeks past the initial deadline for completion, the report still has not made it to Cabinet.

“We are not going to set a deadline,” he said. However, Chand stressed that GAWU’s demands are reasonable given that they are calling for a nine per cent increase – the lowest in over a decade.


“GuySuCo gave GAWU an assurance that the negotiations will start at a particular time and that was not done. We took action. What is political about our decision? Nothing!” Chand declared.


Moving forward, the GAWU President noted that the Union will continue to engage GuySuCo, not political directors, as it has always done in advancing the interests of sugar workers.

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What has Komal done these past 20 years for sugar workers? He can publish the average earnings for the various category of sugar workers plus the amount of subsidy handed out every year for the past 10 years.

Mitwah

“GAWU challenges him to come public and disclose the average earning of every category of sugar worker. If he wants to say that the sugar workers are the highest paid the he must release the numbers for every category of worker, the cane cutters, weeders and shovel men and so on,” Chand said.

The GAWU President argued that Holder not only misled the public is saying that GuySuCo workers are the highest paid, particularly since he linked that comment to that fact sugar workers moved to a strike action to call for an increase.

 

Chand to Holder: ‘Tell the public which sugar workers are highest paid’, Wednesday , October 28 2015, Citizen’s Report, Source

Holder seems to be unaware of the basis issues of the sugar industry.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

“GAWU challenges him to come public and disclose the average earning of every category of sugar worker. If he wants to say that the sugar workers are the highest paid the he must release the numbers for every category of worker, the cane cutters, weeders and shovel men and so on,” Chand said.

The GAWU President argued that Holder not only misled the public is saying that GuySuCo workers are the highest paid, particularly since he linked that comment to that fact sugar workers moved to a strike action to call for an increase.

 

Chand to Holder: ‘Tell the public which sugar workers are highest paid’, Wednesday , October 28 2015, Citizen’s Report, Source

Holder seems to be unaware of the basis issues of the sugar industry.

Holder don't know the difference between sugar cane and bamboo, another PNC idiot .

K
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

“GAWU challenges him to come public and disclose the average earning of every category of sugar worker. If he wants to say that the sugar workers are the highest paid the he must release the numbers for every category of worker, the cane cutters, weeders and shovel men and so on,” Chand said.

The GAWU President argued that Holder not only misled the public is saying that GuySuCo workers are the highest paid, particularly since he linked that comment to that fact sugar workers moved to a strike action to call for an increase.

 

Chand to Holder: ‘Tell the public which sugar workers are highest paid’, Wednesday , October 28 2015, Citizen’s Report, Source

Holder seems to be unaware of the basis issues of the sugar industry.

Holder don't know the difference between sugar cane and bamboo, another PNC idiot

 

Holder visited Enmore Estate and they showed him a sample of sugar and he asked what is that sand.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

“GAWU challenges him to come public and disclose the average earning of every category of sugar worker. If he wants to say that the sugar workers are the highest paid the he must release the numbers for every category of worker, the cane cutters, weeders and shovel men and so on,” Chand said.

The GAWU President argued that Holder not only misled the public is saying that GuySuCo workers are the highest paid, particularly since he linked that comment to that fact sugar workers moved to a strike action to call for an increase.

 

Chand to Holder: ‘Tell the public which sugar workers are highest paid’, Wednesday , October 28 2015, Citizen’s Report, Source

Holder seems to be unaware of the basis issues of the sugar industry.

Holder don't know the difference between sugar cane and bamboo, another PNC idiot

 

Holder visited Enmore Estate and they showed him a sample of sugar and he asked what is that sand.

 

Now, now Nehru.

 

You Rock Waving You Rock

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

“GAWU challenges him to come public and disclose the average earning of every category of sugar worker. If he wants to say that the sugar workers are the highest paid the he must release the numbers for every category of worker, the cane cutters, weeders and shovel men and so on,” Chand said.

The GAWU President argued that Holder not only misled the public is saying that GuySuCo workers are the highest paid, particularly since he linked that comment to that fact sugar workers moved to a strike action to call for an increase.

 

Chand to Holder: ‘Tell the public which sugar workers are highest paid’, Wednesday , October 28 2015, Citizen’s Report, Source

Holder seems to be unaware of the basis issues of the sugar industry.

Best way to end this is to sell Guysuco to the Chinese.  Then the workers will see how lucky they were when they suffer the fate of the bauxite workers.

FM

I would like to know what's the status on Guyana's state of the art sugar factory in Skeldon, Berbice. This factory was supposed to produce sugar at around US$.09 per lb. However, because of some technical problems the factory was not running at full capacity and as efficiently as it should. The previous government told us a few years ago that Bosch Engineering of South Africa was contracted to fix the glitch or glitches in the factory. What is happening with this operation?  I would like to know just like any other caring Guyanese. 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I would like to know what's the status on Guyana's state of the art sugar factory in Skeldon, Berbice. This factory was supposed to produce sugar at around US$.09 per lb. However, because of some technical problems the factory was not running at full capacity and as efficiently as it should. The previous government told us a few years ago that Bosch Engineering of South Africa was contracted to fix the glitch or glitches in the factory. What is happening with this operation?  I would like to know just like any other caring Guyanese. 

Jagdeo screwed that whole thing up. 100 Million US and no bloody warranty??????????

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I would like to know what's the status on Guyana's state of the art sugar factory in Skeldon, Berbice. This factory was supposed to produce sugar at around US$.09 per lb. However, because of some technical problems the factory was not running at full capacity and as efficiently as it should. The previous government told us a few years ago that Bosch Engineering of South Africa was contracted to fix the glitch or glitches in the factory. What is happening with this operation?  I would like to know just like any other caring Guyanese. 

Jagdeo screwed that whole thing up. 100 Million US and no bloody warranty??????????

That's just one of the many things he screwed up on.

cain
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I would like to know what's the status on Guyana's state of the art sugar factory in Skeldon, Berbice. This factory was supposed to produce sugar at around US$.09 per lb. However, because of some technical problems the factory was not running at full capacity and as efficiently as it should. The previous government told us a few years ago that Bosch Engineering of South Africa was contracted to fix the glitch or glitches in the factory. What is happening with this operation?  I would like to know just like any other caring Guyanese. 

Jagdeo screwed that whole thing up. 100 Million US and no bloody warranty??????????

250 million spent and still not working. Bosch engineering was recently paid another 35 million and it is still crippled. They just took out one of its punt lifting arm and sold out its co gen plant on top of that.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I would like to know what's the status on Guyana's state of the art sugar factory in Skeldon, Berbice. This factory was supposed to produce sugar at around US$.09 per lb. However, because of some technical problems the factory was not running at full capacity and as efficiently as it should. The previous government told us a few years ago that Bosch Engineering of South Africa was contracted to fix the glitch or glitches in the factory. What is happening with this operation?  I would like to know just like any other caring Guyanese. 

Jagdeo screwed that whole thing up. 100 Million US and no bloody warranty??????????

250 million spent and still not working. Bosch engineering was recently paid another 35 million and it is still crippled. They just took out one of its punt lifting arm and sold out its co gen plant on top of that.

The afc/apnu need to take ownership. What have they done to rectify the situation? Granger once said that he would divest govt from the sugar industry via privatization. Why is he not pursuing this route?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

I would like to know what's the status on Guyana's state of the art sugar factory in Skeldon, Berbice. This factory was supposed to produce sugar at around US$.09 per lb. However, because of some technical problems the factory was not running at full capacity and as efficiently as it should. The previous government told us a few years ago that Bosch Engineering of South Africa was contracted to fix the glitch or glitches in the factory. What is happening with this operation?  I would like to know just like any other caring Guyanese. 

Jagdeo screwed that whole thing up. 100 Million US and no bloody warranty??????????

250 million spent and still not working. Bosch engineering was recently paid another 35 million and it is still crippled. They just took out one of its punt lifting arm and sold out its co gen plant on top of that.

The afc/apnu need to take ownership. What have they done to rectify the situation? Granger once said that he would divest govt from the sugar industry via privatization. Why is he not pursuing this route?

Sugar is per crop cycle so the minimum turn around time is 18 months. Unfortunately, it has been on life support for 10 years and some 60 billion in the hole so barring a closure here or there as any good management would do, they have little option in the short term for a turn around.

 

In the long term they have some plans ie selling more molasses, processed sugar or other value added products.  With sugar being produced at four times  viable open market price, they have lots to do to make even that a profitable venture.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

Sugar is per crop cycle so the minimum turn around time is 18 months. Unfortunately, it has been on life support for 10 years and some 60 billion in the hole so barring a closure here or there as any good management would do, they have little option in the short term for a turn around.

 

In the long term they have some plans ie selling more molasses, processed sugar or other value added products.  With sugar being produced at four times  viable open market price, they have lots to do to make even that a profitable venture.

Granger is making a big mistake by taking on the PPP mistakes and trying to make it right. If this was private industry, bankruptcy would have been declared a long time ago. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
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The afc/apnu need to take ownership. What have they done to rectify the situation? Granger once said that he would divest govt from the sugar industry via privatization. Why is he not pursuing this route?

No buyers maybe.  Even the Chinese are probably no longer interested.

 

They should sell it to Angostura, so the latter can guarantee a supply of molasses for their rums.  I understand that, as virtually every Caribbean country either out of sugar, or drastically reducing their supply molasses is becoming hard to get.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

Sugar is per crop cycle so the minimum turn around time is 18 months. Unfortunately, it has been on life support for 10 years and some 60 billion in the hole so barring a closure here or there as any good management would do, they have little option in the short term for a turn around.

 

In the long term they have some plans ie selling more molasses, processed sugar or other value added products.  With sugar being produced at four times  viable open market price, they have lots to do to make even that a profitable venture.

Granger is making a big mistake by taking on the PPP mistakes and trying to make it right. If this was private industry, bankruptcy would have been declared a long time ago. 

Guysuco should now become a private/public industry. It about time that Granger sit down with Jagdeo and Chand and chart out a five year plant to diversify/privatize Guysuco.

 

I would not mind getting my foot wet and investing on that massive amount of real estate that Guysuco owns.

 

Sugar is becoming too political, we need a national non partisan solution before all is lost.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

Guysuco should now become a private/public industry. It about time that Granger sit down with Jagdeo and Chand and chart out a five year plant to diversify/privatize Guysuco.

 

I would not mind getting my foot wet and investing on that massive amount of real estate that Guysuco owns.

 

Sugar is becoming too political, we need a national non partisan solution before all is lost.

Yet another sensible comment from yuji.

 

Just now he might even admit that the PPP was no better than what APNU/AFC are turning out to be.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

What has Komal done these past 20 years for sugar workers? He can publish the average earnings for the various category of sugar workers plus the amount of subsidy handed out every year for the past 10 years.

 

 

I am really disturbed by the Minister statement.  Has he ever experience the working conditions of the cane cutter for one minute or one hour?

 

If the worker are paid well, it is only seasonal.  What happens to the sugar worker during the off season?

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

What has Komal done these past 20 years for sugar workers? He can publish the average earnings for the various category of sugar workers plus the amount of subsidy handed out every year for the past 10 years.

I am really disturbed by the Minister statement.  Has he ever experience the working conditions of the cane cutter for one minute or one hour?

 

If the worker are paid well, it is only seasonal.  What happens to the sugar worker during the off season?

banna stop yuor invidious shit

 

where did the minister say or imply that cutting/planting cane and loading punt was easy?

FM

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