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I was told on a visit to the court that the children of the guy who used to own the bus Salome has the same problem. His nephew took his house and it has been 15 years now yet the courts cannot find the time to try the case.  Get it...fifteen years and this case is still pending!

 

They tried to do it with me as well. I won the case but still cannot get a final judgement on the damages because the judge cannot do her write up for the past 10 years.  Guyana is a judicial hell hole

 

I know this man and with me he does not get much Karma points  but  I feel for his Kids. These people will get little help from the police or the courts. The former is corrupt and the latter is populated by lazy people. Lawyers do not turn up to the court even when the took a retainer and  the get no sanction as they would here in the US. Magistrates love to "put off" cases. They are to ones that glue up the system and erode justice.

 

About 15 years ago, a flyer purported to come from the Rice producers association advised people to squat on land they want to plant rice on. It said  before the case is settled the squatter would have had 10 years of free use of someones land. The PNC had announcement of this on their website for awhile. The RPA disavowed it of course but that such a flyer existed spoke to the opportunity for crooks to steal anther's property.

 

Note, the seat of democracy is the protection of property rights. The lack of such is by definition the core of corruption, But then again, the PPP squats on state lands like it is their grandfathers so the People are following the ways of a corrupt regime to the "T"!

 

 

Dementia victim fleeced of home, son says

September 10, 2013 | By | Filed Under News


By Leon Suseran
An 82-year-old man of Albion, Corentyne suffering from dementia was allegedly wheedled into transferring ownership of his multi-million-dollar house and land while having drinks with a few persons couple months ago.


A former mayor of New Amsterdam and popular engineer in Guyana decades ago, Mustapha Ally—a U.S. Citizen— returned to Guyana a few days ago from New York and found locks on the gates to his property.

 

 

Mr. Mustapha Ally

 

Mr. Mustapha Ally

There are several buildings on the land with a large yard-space. After securing a High Court Injunction granted by Justice Rishi Persaud, with the help of his son, Arif Ally, to evict the illegal occupants, Ally and his son turned up at the house armed with police officers and a Court Marshall, to show the occupants; However, a fight broke out, the occupants allegedly manhandled Ally in the presence of the police and refused to give up occupancy of the house and land.
Ally and family also say that they are not getting the full support of the local police whom they accuse of siding with the perpetrators. The matter has escalated to such a point that the U.S. Embassy is keeping a close eye on the situation.


“We went with an injunction to evict them but they’ve got thugs there, so we went with a Marshall—Mr. [Ryan] Crawford and our own security force—ex- police officers and the warrant was served on Navinder Persaud by the Marshall and we got a police officer from the Albion Police Station.”


Arif Ally, on Saturday, stated that his father became an acquaintance to the two named individuals when they visited the home a few weeks ago to purchase a safe after their pawn shop on the Corentyne was burnt down. It is believed that the individuals are brothers. Arif stated that he met them three months ago after they visited the house to purchase the safe from Mr. Ally.

 

“They —Navinder Persaud and Veejay Cipriani came to my father to buy a safe three months ago,” Arif said.


Arif stated that the individuals have virtually taken over their home and have moved in. They have been occupying the property for several weeks now and claim to have all legal paperwork for ownership, even though Mr. Ally is still in possession of the Transport in his name.


Arif added that the two individuals claimed to have paid his father US$42,000 for the property “and today they said they paid US$85,000 and a month ago they claimed to have paid him US$150,000 in New York.” This, the individuals claimed to have paid Ally while socializing with him at the house a few weeks ago with drinks and food.


But Ally has severe dementia and cannot remember collecting any such amount of cash “and they knew that and they were bringing him alcohol and cigarettes and getting him drunk.” “He never had a Bill of Sale or nothing—no money was ever given to him,” claimed Arif.

The property which is under siege right now.

The property which is under siege right now.

 

He also claimed that the individuals seized his father’s bank card and passport. “He could not leave [the country] when he wanted to. Eventually they returned the documents to him after what they did what they did—I don’t know what papers they cooked up—and that’s when we came back and evicted them.”


Ally said that he had been living at the house for over 40 years, even though he would go back and forth between USA and Guyana at times. He was instrumental in constructing the Canje River Bridge and the Albion Sports Complex decades ago.


There was a confrontation on Friday evening after the Allys along with the daughters of their maids, arrived at the house with the security forces and Marshall. The Allys locked the gates with their locks after which the individuals allegedly abducted Mr. Ally with the two girls and kept them in the house all night.


“But when the police came, they [the individuals] removed their locks to make it look as if it was only my lock on the gate.”


Arif stated that his father was in the home all night without food or water. His father and the girls were let out of the house and compound around 07:30 hrs Saturday, and “they locked the gates…he could not have gone back into the house.”


“The US Embassy called and wanted to know if he [Ally] can go freely in and out of his house—they said the most they can do was to send a local police from here…but these police know these people by first name! Everybody’s been paid off—I don’t know how this can happen in this country!” complained Arif. They’re bribed— they’re corrupt—they’re taking money to look the other way.”


Arif stated that the family cannot deal with this situation.  They are also fearful for their lives. They are currently staying at a relative’s home a few blocks away from the house and plan to leave for the United States as soon as possible. The next court hearing is planned for Friday at the GT High Court.


“When someone has dementia, and you’re fed alcohol, it gets worse…you don’t remember stuff, you get forgetful.”


When asked what the family’s next move is, Arif stated that they will continue to fight to regain control of the house and compound. “What they did was fraud…the transport is still in his [his father’s] name.”
Additionally, Arif stated that his family being staunch Muslims has found that the individuals have desecrated the property, too, by taking swine into the compound.


When Kaieteur News turned up at the house on Saturday, a group of persons appeared at the gate and prevented the reporter from entering the compound. They stated that Mr. Ally no longer lives there and that he was overseas.


Lawyer for the Allys, Sanjeev Datadin, said that the courts are being disrespected because they are allowing the people to disregard a legal order of court.

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Those two dodgy fellows are astonishing in their story.  Who does business as they said occurred except crooks? If you buy property you go to a law office, get witnesses and have proper documents prepared notarized and presented to the proper authorities.  I am convinced they are trying a well known swindle because the good offices of the PPP does not take care of the little things. 

FM

It is a problem with the PPP or a problem with the British housing legislation that was inherited?  The white man d2 continue to exhibit his ignorance. In fact the AFC/PNC leadership are the prime beneficiaries of these antiquated laws as their law practices reap handsome sums from real estate conflict court cases. Recently Ramjattan was involved in fleecing of property owners.  Notice how the AFC/pNC with the majority in parliament have not proposed any legislation to remedy this problem as it is a money making machine for them.

FM

This is what Moses, Ramjhaaaatan and GR turn Berbice into, A SHAMELESS PLace. Before they went there and FOOLED the GREAT People of Berbice, the place was known for it's wonderful hospitality, compassion and Humanity.

Nehru
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

It is a problem with the PPP or a problem with the British housing legislation that was inherited?  The white man d2 continue to exhibit his ignorance. In fact the AFC/PNC leadership are the prime beneficiaries of these antiquated laws as their law practices reap handsome sums from real estate conflict court cases. Recently Ramjattan was involved in fleecing of property owners.  Notice how the AFC/pNC with the majority in parliament have not proposed any legislation to remedy this problem as it is a money making machine for them.

The man did not do a damn thing wrong. He worked pro bono for that back biting person who wanted more money for a property that was ordered to be sold by the court. That the property sold less than they want is their problem. Leave it to bottom grazers of the moral scale like you and  your PPP demons to invent "corruption" for others when they are the proverbial template of the crooked third world leaders in the tradition of Markos, Suharto and Bird.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

The man did not do a damn thing wrong. He worked pro bono for that back biting person who wanted more money for a property that was ordered to be sold by the court. That the property sold less than they want is their problem. Leave it to bottom grazers of the moral scale like you and  your PPP demons to invent "corruption" for others when they are the proverbial template of the crooked third world leaders in the tradition of Markos, Suharto and Bird.

You need to learn to stop defending the indefensible just because of your party affiliation. I too have had travails with the antiquated housing legislation in Guyana. The laws needs to be changed, none of the politicians are interested in this, especially your lawyer friends in the AFC who derive 90% of their income from fleecing the gullible. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

The man did not do a damn thing wrong. He worked pro bono for that back biting person who wanted more money for a property that was ordered to be sold by the court. That the property sold less than they want is their problem. Leave it to bottom grazers of the moral scale like you and  your PPP demons to invent "corruption" for others when they are the proverbial template of the crooked third world leaders in the tradition of Markos, Suharto and Bird.

You need to learn to stop defending the indefensible just because of your party affiliation. I too have had travails with the antiquated housing legislation in Guyana. The laws needs to be changed, none of the politicians are interested in this, especially your lawyer friends in the AFC who derive 90% of their income from fleecing the gullible. 

 To this point no one has demonstrated that working for the company is wrong. No one said that they used their position to influence policy. The AFC was primary in the objection to the bloated formulation that was the project. Further, the PPP, Ramotar especially had no objection for working for omai and being an official of the PPP. His position is more suspect since he squatted there while they bought Demba assets for 5 million and resold it as is for some 45 million later. That is from a company that did not make a profit in 20 years. Then there is the matter of his children implanted in cushy leech jobs.

 

As for fleecing the gullible, when the last did the PPP submit an elections result. They have their fifth column germ called Yusuf writing all sorts of shit but were he concerned he would look into the use of state assets to fuel the PPP propaganda machine. That includes using our media for free; they had banners for months asking for votes on the chronicle website and TV. That did not include using physical assets like trucks and government vehicles as though the PPP owned it.

 

20 years has come and gone and these folks have not formalized one elections financial reporting regulation. They cannot. It would stop the funds from overseas and the quid pro quo from people like ed who give jagdeo 29 tons of swag while jagdeo was president and Ed sought to buy state assets.

 

 

Get real punk. If you want to find a crook, just lift the rock they call freedom house to let some daylight in on the roaches.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

This is what Moses, Ramjhaaaatan and GR turn Berbice into, A SHAMELESS PLace. Before they went there and FOOLED the GREAT People of Berbice, the place was known for it's wonderful hospitality, compassion and Humanity.

Our unintelligent troll is at it once again. 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

This is what Moses, Ramjhaaaatan and GR turn Berbice into, A SHAMELESS PLace. Before they went there and FOOLED the GREAT People of Berbice, the place was known for it's wonderful hospitality, compassion and Humanity.

berbice still have the madhouse waiting for you

FM

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