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Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Sometimes I wonder if people talk for the sake of talking.  The fact that the owner does not come forward could mean many things, including not exposing the entire smuggling operations to international scrutiny.   Yes yes, I know, the GoG must be involved.  I get it.

Nah...I don't buy your excuse here Baseman. If the Minister of Natural Resources and Environment is serious about clamping down on gold smuggling, which has been happening for decades, this is a case where they have ample leads. I smell a rat! 

You guys smell a rat even if it's a cyat.  I don't profess to know the details or any facts about the case, but neither do you or any poster.  My point is you guys rush to judgement and slant every thing to suit some preconcieved notion.  There is another Govt involved who is also tight-lipped.  I could understand the lack of public statement (apart from just some corrupt official involvement).  This seems a well organized set-up and they need to be careful about making public statement too early lest the tip off people who they might have their sights on.  I'm sure also there are some well connected people involved.  In any investigation, the less said early, the better the eventual outcome.  I would agree with some statement soon regarding the publishing of some type of progress of the investigation.

FM

Observers note that for Guyanese authorities, the need to discover the origins of the shipment is important as it may expose the oft-suspected major smuggling of gold from this country.  On the other hand, the sources say the authorities may be in the quandary of not wanting to acknowledge the depth of the smuggling and having to press serious charges against some of the major players here.

Mitwah

Three held in Curacao over gold heist

Posted By Stabroek editor On December 28, 2012 @ 11:05 am In Local |

 

Police on the Dutch Caribbean island of Curacao have arrested three suspects over the recent heist of 70 gold bars worth an estimated US$11.5 million, the Associated Press reported today.

 

The arrests come amid indications that the gold originated in Guyana.

AP reported Police spokesman Reginald Huggins as saying today that the authorities would soon release more details.

AP said that one of the men arrested is the owner of a local jewellery store, while the other two suspects were held at the jeweller’s house.

 

The arrests come nearly a month after gunmen pretending to be police stole 216 kilograms (476 pounds) of gold bars from a fishing boat in Curacao.

Curacao authorities have not said where the gold was being delivered, but one of the ship’s crew members said they were delivering the gold to an unidentified company in Curacao.

 

The Curacao Chronicle is reporting that the jeweller arrested is Giovani Regales and that two of the gold bars were found on his premises. He has a business in the downtown area of Otrabanda in Willemstad, the capital of the island. The Curacao Chronicle also said that it is being reported by another media outlet that 30 of the gold bars were found in the US and that a “major organization” there was helping with the case.

 

Stabroek News was told that following the visit of two staffers of the Guyana Geology and Mines Commission to Curacao in relation to the heist, local investigators are coming to the conclusion that the stolen gold came from here and would have therefore been smuggled out.

FM
Originally Posted by Henry:
Originally Posted by TK:
 I smell a rat! 

The AFC fellows are always huddled together and smelling rats. There is an obvious explanation for this.

Henny it is not a conspiracy that they pressed charges in Curacao and no one is not even being questioned in Guyana. Hey...seems like other nations continue to do Guyana's job.

FM

Ministry still awaiting word from Curacao on gold heist – Persaud

 

Posted By Stabroek staff On January 4, 2013 @ 5:14 am In Local News | 


Guyana is depending heavily on documentation from Curacao to determine its interest in last November’s gold heist on the island, but so far no information has been forthcoming.

 

“Our team that went to Curacao, they met with the different agencies. We have requested a number of documents and we are still awaiting those documents… At this point and time, we have put the request in, and we are awaiting … we requested as much documentation to see whether or not, on Guyana’s part, if there was anything of interest that we should pursue and we have not gotten anything,” Minister of Natural Resources Robert Persaud told Stabroek News yesterday.

Robert Persaud

Robert Persaud

 

Six persons, one from Bonaire, two from Venezuela and the others from Curacao, remain in the custody of Curacao police for the daring US$11.5M heist of gold bars. Several Dutch news websites have also reported that 30 bars were recovered in the US but police in Curacao have declined to confirm whether this was indeed the case.

 

“We are starting from the assumption that there is something to work through. We first have to get the documentation to establish that and that is what we want to establish, and that was what the team was there to pursue. ‘Show me all the paperwork you have and let us see whether or not there is something that concerns Guyana and what we need to do.’ And that is what we want to ascertain,” Persaud continued.

 

He informed that although personnel under the Ministry of Natural Resources went to conduct an investigation on the island, it was clearly from a gold trading standpoint to establish if there were regulatory breaches.

 

He said that before the team’s departure diplomatic protocol was established and the okay to access to agencies given. As a result, as many agencies as possible, during the time the team was there, were visited. “This was arranged through the Ministry of foreign Affairs. We had to go through diplomatic channels and all the relevant agencies (police customs etc). Our team met with those,” he said.

“I am more interested in the gold trading aspect to see whether or not, from the Guyana Gold Board or whether anything that affects the trading of gold, that there is some aspect of interest and that is what we are pursuing,” he also said.

Questioned on the current status of the crew of the vessel and if the team sought an audience with the crew members, Persaud posited that questioning the men would fall under the portfolio of the police and that his team’s duties were limited to gold and gold trading.

 

Stabroek News understands that the crew of the vessel has still not departed Curacao. When questioned why, Curacao police spokesman Ronald Huggins had told this newspaper that the crewmembers were not being held by the police and he did not know why they have not yet left the island. The police there would not release the names of the crewmembers, since they stated that the investigation was a sensitive one. However, a crew member, who gave his name as Raymond Emmanuel, was reported by the Associated Press as saying that the crew left Guyana on November 26, bound for Curacao. Observers note that the crew would be able to give chapter and verse on the provenance of the gold and it is they that the Guyana Government should formally be seeking access to for conclusive information.

 

“The police will have to tell you, the immigration authorities will have to tell you whether the crew is back in Guyana … Our team is not a police team our team, there was more of a fact finding and to interact and see what is there that concerns the issues of gold trade,” he said.

 

“This (questioning the crew) is a matter of law enforcement and the ministry is not a law enforcement agency. We are more interested from the trading standpoint and the other aspect, the law enforcement agencies I am sure, they have their collaboration and interaction, they will have to address that,” he added.

Persaud added that his ministry awaits the delivery of the documents in “goodwill and trust” of the Curacao government.

FM

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