Jackass Ramjattan took guns away from community policing groups and they ended up in the hands of criminals.

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Jackass Ramjattan took guns away from community policing groups and they ended up in the hands of criminals.

Show the proof to your statement.

Take away lethal weapons from CPGs – AFC Leader

Dec 23, 2013 News 0 Comments

The time is now right for those who are responsible for security in Guyana to begin to embrace modern technology and equip the ranks of the various Community Policing Groups with more effective but less lethal weapons.

AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan

Godfrey Jhaggroo

This view has long been held by Alliance For Change Leader Khemraj Ramjatan who said that his party will be pushing for legislative changes that could see community policing ranks be given relevant weapons
“I have asked on numerous occasions for these people to be given stun guns…, which can knock you out, and not kill you. Why don’t they invest in that for the Community Policing Group? That’s the kind of investment that the Alliance For Change would like to see,” Ramjattan reasoned.
His restated position comes in the wake of the shooting of a 20 year old Bellevue, West Bank Demerara youth, Godfrey Jhaggroo called ‘Oh-Oh’, reportedly by members of the neighbourhood’s Community Policing Group.
A police official statement said that their “Initial investigations have revealed that Godfrey Jhaggroo was involved in an argument with his mother during which a man, who resides next door and operates an off licence liquor store, intervened and assaulted him with a piece of wood.”
According to the police, Jhaggroo was on his way to the Wales Police Station to make a report when he was confronted by three men, one of whom is a licenced firearm holder, “and who were at the off licence liquor store, during which he was shot to his back with a shotgun.”
Ramjattan said that he had read about the incident and “I want to believe that it is almost like murder and it smacks of an execution and extra judicial killing.”
“It is totally abhorrent to our system of justice, and it must not be done and the people doing it be literally not chastised, and sometimes even being praised. It is a horrible development,” the AFC Leader stated.
Ramjattan agreed that last Thursday’s case was not one that had to be attended to with the type of force that was used.
For one, he said that the CPG members have no real training to make proper assessment of a particular situation.
“This just goes to show they want to be judge, jury and executioner …they are making their own assessment, and they are given guns that can shoot bullets at almost seven yards per second. Once that shot is fired it becomes unreviewable and the death thereafter becomes another horrific experience for Guyanese citizens and this has to be brought to a halt,” Ramjattan stated.
Because of the nature of criminal activities these days, Community Policing Groups are not expected to engage criminals in armed confrontations but rather they are supposed to gather information and contact the more equipped Guyana Police Force.
Ramjattan strongly recommended that if the concept of Community Policing is to work there be a huge investment in the training of those involved, so that they can execute their duty in a lawful and proper fashion that will not end up in unnecessary injury or death to innocent Guyanese.
“You remember the Yohance Douglas incident, and they were policemen much less these guys, and now they are given powerful weapons,” Ramjattan, a defence attorney, said.
He pointed out that this development is symptomatic of the reality that passes for law enforcement in Guyana, adding that the real police are the lesser of the two evils, since in the main local law enforcers are trigger happy.
“Within the community policing group, once they have guns, they are far more trigger-happy, if you were to look at ratio as to how many shootings they would do normally. But it sometimes goes unreported. So it is something that we really have to start thinking through better…so that these Community Policing people don’t start killing people,” the AFC Leader stated.
“We had seen this development in another period of Guyana’s history, when the Community Policing started getting a lot of immunity,” he added, noting that CPG members were usurping the powers of the regular police, by wantonly searching and arresting persons,” he added.
Ramjattan laid the blame for the seemingly out-of-control CPGs on the ruling People’s Progressive Party.
“The PPP loves that kind of thing, because all those Community Policing Groups are made up of hardcore PPP activists. So they want to arm them in a very indirect way,” Ramjattan stated.
His beliefs are similar to that of a former senior police officer who told this newspaper that Community Policing Groups operate as if they are only accountable to the Ministry of Home Affairs.
Speaking with this newspaper yesterday, the senior officer who was integrally involved in the early days of Community Policing, recalled that the late Commissioner of Police Laurie Lewis always insisted that the CPGs know under which authority they fall, and that is the police.
“It is clear that Community Policing is heading in a different direction. It is troubling and disturbing to note that during the 33rd anniversary celebrations of Community Policing in Guyana, the honourable Minister of Home Affairs had said that community policing had not been taken away from the Guyana Police Force, and that it is the police who are responsible for monitoring them. Yet the current circumstances reflect otherwise. Some groups are misguided because the Ministry through its Liaison Officers keeps insisting that CPGs report to the Ministry,” the former cop said.
He added that this is why some Divisional Commanders and other senior police officers are now adopting a hands-off approach to some Community Policing Groups.

More criticism of Minister Ramjattan

May 04, 2016 Letters 0 Comments

Dear Editor,
For the past two months or more, there hasn’t been a day where the crime situation in Guyana, has not dominated the headlines of the more popular dailies. One has to be real naive not to observe that violent crime is on the rise, and that there is no evident macro plan to counter this. The noticeable absence of any type of proactive approach seems to be a motivation for anyone with a gun to get into the business of armed robbery.
I am forced to deduce that this is all happening as a consequence of the lack of visionary leadership at both the Ministry of Public Security and the Guyana Police Force. This situation is further compounded with the tragic conditions prevailing at the Georgetown Prisons, which also falls under the ambit of the Minister of Public Security. Minister Ramathan is obviously out of his depth at this Ministry, and his Commissioner is like Alice in Wonderland. While I understand the provisions of the Cummingsburg Accord, Mr. President, I urge you to consider removing both Mr. Ramjattan and the Commissioner of Police from their respective appointments, before the crime situation escalates to a catastrophe and brings your government down.
While Mr. Ramjattan may be a clever lawyer, Public Security is definitely not his forte.  Ramjattan is a round peg in a square hole at the Public Security Ministry, unable to fill the requirements of his portfolio.  He should be reshuffled to a ministry for which his qualifications make him suitable. This is my humble advice as a worried citizen.
George Gomes
Lieutenant Colonel (retired)

None of the articles stated that Ramjattan dis-arm the Community Policing Groups from May,2015.

Not only did Jackass Ramjattan take away guns from community policing groups, he took away vehicles and gave them to corrupt cops who are now using them to assist criminals in transporting criminals during robberies and to escape after committing crimes.

This sounds like a PNC master plan.

Still waiting for the proof Ramjattan dis-arm the Community Policing Groups.

Vehicles yes...that was known,due the shortage vehicles in the Police Departments ,some was taken and given to the police.

It's mind-boggling that when Djangy bai ask for proof and you provide the proof, how quickly he can pull a Trump. Django bai, you peddling fake news and data on GNI. You must admit that Prak and Moses(two Indians) were being used by your PNC goons to demonize and con the Indians. Now the PNC is in power, Moses and Prak have no voice. They have to crawl on their knees till they get to Harmon's desk, bow their heads and ask for permission to even go to the bathroom.

skeldon_man posted:

It's mind-boggling that when Djangy bai ask for proof and you provide the proof, how quickly he can pull a Trump. Django bai, you peddling fake news and data on GNI. You must admit that Prak and Moses(two Indians) were being used by your PNC goons to demonize and con the Indians. Now the PNC is in power, Moses and Prak have no voice. They have to crawl on their knees till they get to Harmon's desk, bow their heads and ask for permission to even go to the bathroom.

Ok bossman,where is the proof i asked for ??

Django posted:

skeldon_man posted:

It's mind-boggling that when Djangy bai ask for proof and you provide the proof, how quickly he can pull a Trump. Django bai, you peddling fake news and data on GNI. You must admit that Prak and Moses(two Indians) were being used by your PNC goons to demonize and con the Indians. Now the PNC is in power, Moses and Prak have no voice. They have to crawl on their knees till they get to Harmon's desk, bow their heads and ask for permission to even go to the bathroom.

Ok bossman,where is the proof i asked for ??

Still waiting for the proof Ramjattan dis-arm the Community Policing Groups.

Minister of Home Affairs had said that community policing had not been taken away from the Guyana Police Force, and that it is the police who are responsible for monitoring them. Yet the current circumstances reflect otherwise.

skeldon_man posted:

Django posted:

skeldon_man posted:

It's mind-boggling that when Djangy bai ask for proof and you provide the proof, how quickly he can pull a Trump. Django bai, you peddling fake news and data on GNI. You must admit that Prak and Moses(two Indians) were being used by your PNC goons to demonize and con the Indians. Now the PNC is in power, Moses and Prak have no voice. They have to crawl on their knees till they get to Harmon's desk, bow their heads and ask for permission to even go to the bathroom.

Ok bossman,where is the proof i asked for ??

Still waiting for the proof Ramjattan dis-arm the Community Policing Groups.

Minister of Home Affairs had said that community policing had not been taken away from the Guyana Police Force, and that it is the police who are responsible for monitoring them. Yet the current circumstances reflect otherwise.

Oww bhai,where dis-arm are stated ?

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