The army is playing too much of an active role in this new gov't. What do you expect to happen with a general being president?  Harry Truman fired Douglas McArthur when he overstepped his bounds. In most cases it is unwise to have a military man as head of state.

The PPP cry every day about the high levels of crime which is by the way their own legacy. When the police try to track the criminals, they still complain. Gave those babies a bottle, change their pampers and send them off to bed. 

http://newssourcegy.com/news/j...-pres-david-granger/

Joint Service collaboration is nothing new -Pres. David Granger

By Staff on January 6, 2016

Speaking to members of the media today at the Ministry of the Presidency, Mr. Granger made reference to the recent case involving a Sergeant of the Guyana Defence Force who died tragically in a vehicular accident while reportedly trailing a subject that may have been the source of a probe being conducted by the Special Organised Crime Unit.

President David Granger has brushed aside concerns about the role of the Guyana Defence Force in joint operations, stating clearly that joint collaboration between the various security forces is nothing new and is something that has been ongoing for over 60 years.

Speaking to members of the media today at the Ministry of the Presidency, Mr. Granger made reference to the recent case involving a Sergeant of the Guyana Defence Force who died tragically in a vehicular accident while reportedly trailing a subject that may have been the source of a probe being conducted by the Special Organised Crime Unit.

The President said “there has always been a pattern of joint service collaboration between the Defence Force and the Police Force and whenever the need arises, the Police Force would call on the Defence Force for assistance. This has been taking place over the past 60 years since the British troops were here. There has always been joint service operations, in fact there is a Joint Operations Centre so joint operations are part of the DNA of the two forces”, President Granger explained.

He said both the Guyana Defence Force and the Guyana Police Force are responsible for state security.

The GDF officer was attached to SOCU through the Guyana Defence Force where he worked in the Military Police Intelligence Unit.

The President said on the death of any member of the GDF, an internal probe will be carried out and he does not see the need for the probe to be stretched beyond that since the officer was part of a legitimate operation.

The officer’s wife who was with him and the driver of the truck that he slammed in to, also died in the crash.

See now, had Brassington been already jailed this might never have occurred.

cain posted:

See now, had Brassington been already jailed this might never have occurred.

If they didn't tief out the whole country, we wouldn't have this problem.

There you guys go again.

So far it has all been Nancy stories. Convict and then you can make those claims. Until then, you are talking BS.

In North America, some of you would have had your A** sued already.

"President David Granger has brushed aside concerns about the role of the Guyana Defence Force in joint operations, stating clearly that joint collaboration between the various security forces is nothing new and is something that has been ongoing for over 60 years."

Is that man Granger a jackass or what?  Since when the army is used for surveillance of regular citizens?  Looks like Granger just joined Hitler's Nazi camp to use the army to suppress citizens.

VVP posted:

"President David Granger has brushed aside concerns about the role of the Guyana Defence Force in joint operations, stating clearly that joint collaboration between the various security forces is nothing new and is something that has been ongoing for over 60 years."

Is that man Granger a jackass or what?  Since when the army is used for surveillance of regular citizens?  Looks like Granger just joined Hitler's Nazi camp to use the army to suppress citizens.

 

They are in Guyana as the President noted, for the last sixty years. We do not have FBI in Guyana so we use whatever resources are available.

Unlike the PPP who hired contract murderers to track citizens and kill them.

PPP hired RK to wipe out people....did not hear much complaints from their supporters

RiffRaff posted:

PPP hired RK to wipe out people....did not hear much complaints from their supporters

It is amazing how you folks adjust your morals when your party are the ones perpetrating violation of citizens rights. If this was happening in the US, Obama ordering the surveillance of political opponents, it would have been a big uproar and he would have had to resign. 

Mars posted:

VVP posted:

"President David Granger has brushed aside concerns about the role of the Guyana Defence Force in joint operations, stating clearly that joint collaboration between the various security forces is nothing new and is something that has been ongoing for over 60 years."

Is that man Granger a jackass or what?  Since when the army is used for surveillance of regular citizens?  Looks like Granger just joined Hitler's Nazi camp to use the army to suppress citizens.

 

They are in Guyana as the President noted, for the last sixty years. We do not have FBI in Guyana so we use whatever resources are available.

Unlike the PPP who hired contract murderers to track citizens and kill them.

You have the police!  Soldiers can be used to help in terrorist situations such as the "Buxton uprising" or to help during national emergencies such as floods etc.

This soldier guy was no FBI, he ended up chasing the wrong people and killed himself and wife in the process.  Never heard about an FBI taking his wife on a stakeout and high speed chase.

VVP posted:

You have the police!  Soldiers can be used to help in terrorist situations such as the "Buxton uprising" or to help during national emergencies such as floods etc.

This soldier guy was no FBI, he ended up chasing the wrong people and killed himself and wife in the process.  Never heard about an FBI taking his wife on a stakeout and high speed chase.

The guy probably had special skills that were useful to the Police Department and they utilized him. I don't see anything wrong with that. This is not the first world USA where we have separate agencies and they usually act independently. There has always been cooperation between the GDF and Police in crime fighting. What's the problem with it now after using this relationship for the last sixty years? That he killed himself and his wife in the process is not the issue. Anyone on a stakeout can get into an accident.

What disgust me about this board is that most of the people here try to defend the indefensible once they are defending "their party."  

I can only assume that you people are "connected" somehow.  I hate to think you are sheep.

VVP posted:

What disgust me about this board is that most of the people here try to defend the indefensible once they are defending "their party."  

I can only assume that you people are "connected" somehow.  I hate to think you are sheep.

Similarly, it disgusts me that people would come up with the most stupid reasons to bash the government when there is no basis for it.

Mars posted:

VVP posted:

You have the police!  Soldiers can be used to help in terrorist situations such as the "Buxton uprising" or to help during national emergencies such as floods etc.

This soldier guy was no FBI, he ended up chasing the wrong people and killed himself and wife in the process.  Never heard about an FBI taking his wife on a stakeout and high speed chase.

The guy probably had special skills that were useful to the Police Department and they utilized him. I don't see anything wrong with that. This is not the first world USA where we have separate agencies and they usually act independently. There has always been cooperation between the GDF and Police in crime fighting. What's the problem with it now after using this relationship for the last sixty years? That he killed himself and his wife in the process is not the issue. Anyone on a stakeout can get into an accident.

The army should not be used in regular crime fighting.  It should only be used when there is organized crime that threatens the stability of the country.

Anyone on a stakeout can get into an accident with their wife in the car during the stakeout...hahaha

What was the crime in this case?

VVP posted:

Mars posted:

VVP posted:

You have the police!  Soldiers can be used to help in terrorist situations such as the "Buxton uprising" or to help during national emergencies such as floods etc.

This soldier guy was no FBI, he ended up chasing the wrong people and killed himself and wife in the process.  Never heard about an FBI taking his wife on a stakeout and high speed chase.

The guy probably had special skills that were useful to the Police Department and they utilized him. I don't see anything wrong with that. This is not the first world USA where we have separate agencies and they usually act independently. There has always been cooperation between the GDF and Police in crime fighting. What's the problem with it now after using this relationship for the last sixty years? That he killed himself and his wife in the process is not the issue. Anyone on a stakeout can get into an accident.

The army should not be used in regular crime fighting.  It should only be used when there is organized crime that threatens the stability of the country.

Anyone on a stakeout can get into an accident with their wife in the car during the stakeout...hahaha

What was the crime in this case?

Maybe in the USA, the army should not be used in regular crime fighting. It is used all the time in Guyana. Operation Dragnet is a current collaboration between the GDF and the Police in regular crime fighting. Former President Ramotar was urging President Granger to utilize the GDF in this manner since the PPP also used the GDF for regular crime fighting. Nothing new to Guyana. Who said that a crime was committed? The man was on a surveillance mission.