When you see these bastards coming out from hiding and talk about what must be respected after the deal is done, that's when you know how crookish they are. Let's wait and hear what the American ambassador has to say next. This was never the case in the past. There are other articles posted that tell you how the three musketeers work when the government is playing in their favour. 

The Rule of Law = The Law Courts & Constitution

Democratic Norms = Free & Fair Elections

Lilian Chatterjee would like Granger to respect the rule of law and democratic norms.

Plain and simple.

The Canadian lady hasn't violated Guyana's sovereignty. 

Prince posted:

When you see these bastards coming out from hiding and talk about what must be respected after the deal is done, that's when you know how crookish they are. Let's wait and hear what the American ambassador has to say next. This was never the case in the past. There are other articles posted that tell you how the three musketeers work when the government is playing in their favour. 

They are actually saying nothing.  They aren't saying that Granger was wrong. All they are saying is that this agreement should be speedily settled in the courts.

There is also an implicit suggestion that work on replacing the flawed constitution should be given higher priority. As it is Granger has some "committee" which I suspect he wishes people will forget about. 

I think that Jagdeo would also rather people not speaking of the constitution as the only thing that Jagdeo hates about it is that he cannot benefit from its role of centralizing all power around the president.

Gilbakka posted:

 

Lilian Chatterjee would like Granger to respect the rule of law and democratic norms.

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She said no such thing. She refers to an impasse between Granger and Jagdeo and suggests that they settle the issue in court rather than engaging in ignorance.

The constitution determines what is "legal". Granger did not defy the constitution.

The issue is that the constitution itself is flawed which gives rise to flawed behavior.  If you don't like flawed behavior that insist that this flawed constitution be removed.

Jagdeo cannot tell Granger what to do!  And the fact that dangerous characters were included in these lists showed that Jagdeo didn't take this process with the seriousness that it deserve. ALL 18 of the names submitted should be of people who any objective person would deem to be suitable, and this was NOT the case. 

Jagdeo in fact gave Granger an opening to act unilaterally and I maintain that this was Jagdeo's intent. This so that he could anoint himself as the "savior of democracy".  Jagdeo is no more a democrat than Burnham was.

The democratic norms in a close election of 2015 warranted a recount which was never given to the PPP under the ABC watch. I don't care if the PPP had lost after a recount because I will know it was free and fair. How do you explain that, Carib?

Prince posted:

The democratic norms in a close election of 2015 warranted a recount which was never given to the PPP under the ABC watch. I don't care if the PPP had lost after a recount because I will know it was free and fair. How do you explain that, Carib?

No such thing. Democratic norms suggest a recount when the results are announced within hours.  In Guyana counting is not only done at the polling stations but statements of poll are then analyzed with each party allowed to make objections. All this before the results are certified.

In Jamaica results are announced within 3 hours of polls being closed. In T&T within 12 hours.

In Guyana it takes 5 days.  The PPP had enough time within the process to identify potential areas which might have changed the results.  They didn't find any.  This was just their usual arrogant behavior at the disbelief that they lost the election.

And why the shock? They already failed to get the majority of the votes (50% +1) a mere 4 years before.   If Guyana allowed post election alliances, as most countries do when there is an inconclusive result the PPP would have lost the 2011 election. Most Guyanese voted AGAINST them.

Yet they were allowed unfettered control even as they didn't command the majority of the votes.  That is NOT democracy. Democracy is when a government isn't announced until the ruling entity can display that it has a majority of the votes. The PPP did NOT have this in 2011.

Gilbakka posted:

The Rule of Law = The Law Courts & Constitution

Democratic Norms = Free & Fair Elections

Lilian Chatterjee would like Granger to respect the rule of law and democratic norms.

Plain and simple.

The Canadian lady hasn't violated Guyana's sovereignty. 

Gil,

You missed out on a very important statement:

"A fellow member of the OAS". This is important. The OAS will field massive numbers of observers if there are indications of Granger's intention to rig.

Indo Guyanese have influential Liberals in Canada and they will lobby. I can see busloads of Guyanese in Canada headed to the Canadian Parliament and the current administration is sensitive to public opinion.

Granger did himself a lot of political damage.

Regardless of the outcome of the legal battle, all eyes will be on Guyana's election in 2020.

The opposition has already kicked off it's offensive against the Dictator Granger. Many have walked down that road before.

I was there at an Ottawa Protest when Foreign Minister Joe Clarke met with Janet, Sat and a delegation which was protesting in front of the Canadian Parliament. Guyana had free and fair elections that year. I have some beautiful never seen pictures which I will post prior to 2020 elections.

Granger fired the first shot but the opposition will have the last laugh.

I thought 2015 election was the most anticipated election when the PPP accepted they got blindsided by foreign interference. 2020 election will be the same. Going to Canadian parliament and holding placards is not going to make any difference. Canadian government are a bunch of Judas just like Americans government. 

caribny posted

Jagdeo cannot tell Granger what to do!  And the fact that dangerous characters were included in these lists showed that Jagdeo didn't take this process with the seriousness that it deserve. ALL 18 of the names submitted should be of people who any objective person would deem to be suitable, and this was NOT the case. 

Jagdeo in fact gave Granger an opening to act unilaterally and I maintain that this was Jagdeo's intent. This so that he could anoint himself as the "savior of democracy".  Jagdeo is no more a democrat than Burnham was.

I agree but where I disagree is Granger's choice. Why did Granger have to dig low to revive someone for the position, is Patterson the only person Granger knows who is qualified?

caribny posted:

 

This was just their usual arrogant behavior at the disbelief that they lost the election.

 

How does this compare to PNC "mo fiah slo fiah" attitude when they lose elections?

yuji22 posted:

Gilbakka posted:

The Rule of Law = The Law Courts & Constitution

Democratic Norms = Free & Fair Elections

Lilian Chatterjee would like Granger to respect the rule of law and democratic norms.

Plain and simple.

The Canadian lady hasn't violated Guyana's sovereignty. 

Gil,

You missed out on a very important statement:

"A fellow member of the OAS". This is important. The OAS will field massive numbers of observers if there are indications of Granger's intention to rig.

Indo Guyanese have influential Liberals in Canada and they will lobby. I can see busloads of Guyanese in Canada headed to the Canadian Parliament and the current administration is sensitive to public opinion.

Granger did himself a lot of political damage.

Regardless of the outcome of the legal battle, all eyes will be on Guyana's election in 2020.

The opposition has already kicked off it's offensive against the Dictator Granger. Many have walked down that road before.

I was there at an Ottawa Protest when Foreign Minister Joe Clarke met with Janet, Sat and a delegation which was protesting in front of the Canadian Parliament. Guyana had free and fair elections that year. I have some beautiful never seen pictures which I will post prior to 2020 elections.

Granger fired the first shot but the opposition will have the last laugh.

Yugi,

would you mind declaring what year Janet and Sat Sawh met Foreign Minister Joe Clark.

Django posted:

yuji22 posted:

Gilbakka posted:

The Rule of Law = The Law Courts & Constitution

Democratic Norms = Free & Fair Elections

Lilian Chatterjee would like Granger to respect the rule of law and democratic norms.

Plain and simple.

The Canadian lady hasn't violated Guyana's sovereignty. 

Gil,

You missed out on a very important statement:

"A fellow member of the OAS". This is important. The OAS will field massive numbers of observers if there are indications of Granger's intention to rig.

Indo Guyanese have influential Liberals in Canada and they will lobby. I can see busloads of Guyanese in Canada headed to the Canadian Parliament and the current administration is sensitive to public opinion.

Granger did himself a lot of political damage.

Regardless of the outcome of the legal battle, all eyes will be on Guyana's election in 2020.

The opposition has already kicked off it's offensive against the Dictator Granger. Many have walked down that road before.

I was there at an Ottawa Protest when Foreign Minister Joe Clarke met with Janet, Sat and a delegation which was protesting in front of the Canadian Parliament. Guyana had free and fair elections that year. I have some beautiful never seen pictures which I will post prior to 2020 elections.

Granger fired the first shot but the opposition will have the last laugh.

Yugi,

would you mind declaring what year Janet and Sat Sawh met Foreign Minister Joe Clark.

Joe Clarke was Foreign Affairs Minister under PM Brian Mulroney from 1984 through the life of Mulroney's one term in office. It stands to reason that His Excellency yuji22 was referring to that period. yuji migrated to Canada before 1984. I met Sat in October 1984 during a night's stopover in Toronto on my way to Georgetown from Moscow. I am the self-appointed spokesman of the honorable yuji22. Don't expect an answer from him on this question.

I think That was in March 1992, could be earlier. I have pictures, will post. Those are never seen pictures. 

Janet, Sat, ACG delegation, I think one Afro Guyanese gentleman was from the Liberator Party (I think) was also there. He is also in the pictures that I took in front of the Canadian Parliament.

On the way back, I chatted briefly with Janet and I enquired about Pandit Reepu since we were affiliated through the Dharmic Sabha when I lived in Guyana.

Those were the days when the ACG Canada was in high gear. After the PPP was swept to power, the ACG abroad was forgotten and brushed aside.

Ohhhhh rassss, Gilly gettin let go from spokesman for yugi wuk.

Here are some never seen pictures taken from that protest. I also have one with Janet addressing the crowd, will have to dig it out. These are just from my album to the iPhone, they are not scanned, hence the lower quality.

Folks, I paid my dues to my country. Sadly, we have to fight for free and fair elections all over again.

cain posted:

Ohhhhh rassss, Gilly gettin let go from spokesman for yugi wuk.

I hired myself. Then I fired myself after de man butt in. 

yuji22 posted:

Here are some never seen pictures taken from that protest. I also have one with Janet addressing the crowd, will have to dig it out. These are just from my album to the iPhone, they are not scanned, hence the lower quality.

Folks, I paid my dues to my country. Sadly, we have to fight for free and fair elections all over again.

NICE!!

Here is Janet addressing the protesters and a couple more. I have a few more, will have to dig them out.

Prior to leaving Guyana, Pandit Reepu literally pleaded with me to stay and serve the country and the PPP but circumstances made me leave Guyana. I love Canada and have a great life but every single day of my life is spent reflecting on the request by Pandit Reepu.

Paging Mitwah,

Are you in any one of those pictures ? There is one of with young Yuji with his denim jacket. 

yuji22 posted:

Here is Janet addressing the protesters and a couple more. I have a few more, will have to dig them out.

 

 

Yuji - these are precious pics.  Thanks for sharing.

Thanks Bibi.

yuji22 posted:

Paging Mitwah,

Are you in any one of those pictures ? There is one of with young Yuji with his denim jacket. 

yuji22 posted:

Prior to leaving Guyana, Pandit Reepu literally pleaded with me to stay and serve the country and the PPP but circumstances made me leave Guyana. I love Canada and have a great life but every single day of my life is spent reflecting on the request by Pandit Reepu.

 

Bhai,

All of us served as Citizens of Guyana,my brother (a-Pandit) had close connection with the PPP and Reepu and was well known by Jagan,certain things i can't disclose on GNI,Gilly knows my brother.

Thanks for the pictures.

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

Paging Mitwah,

Are you in any one of those pictures ? There is one of with young Yuji with his denim jacket. 

 

Now he is exposed.

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

Paging Mitwah,

Are you in any one of those pictures ? There is one of with young Yuji with his denim jacket. 

 

The man is brave to put his pic on GNI.

He looks like he just stepped off the boat. 

Mars posted:

He looks like he just stepped off the boat. 

I still look like that. It's genes and a healthy lifestyle.

skeldon_man posted:

Mars posted:

He looks like he just stepped off the boat. 

I still look like that. It's genes and a healthy lifestyle.

Fresh off the boat has nothing to do with genes or a healthy lifestyle. 

Cobra posted:

I thought 2015 election was the most anticipated election when the PPP accepted they got blindsided by foreign interference. 

What foreign interference?  The fact that the PPP was planning to rig the election and they got caught?

The ABC nations didn't put a gun to the heads of the Guyanese voters and threaten them to vote against the PPP.

cain posted:

was.

I agree but where I disagree is Granger's choice. Why did Granger have to dig low to revive someone for the position, is Patterson the only person Granger knows who is qualified?

Guyanese are a truly simple and gullible people. Lazy and so easily led.

The issue isn't what Jagdeo or Granger did.  The issue isn't who Granger chose.

The issue is that almost 40 years after a dictator put in place a constitution which centralized power around him and put him above the law we are still using it. Will another 40 years pass before this illegal constitution is removed?

Given what the constitution is Granger has sole right to select who he wants if HE thinks that the list is unreasonable. And he doesn't even have to justify his choice.

I note that days later Jagdeo has said NOTHING about the fact that the existing constitution is illegal.

The constitution can't be illegal. It is legal whether it is good or not. 

ksazma posted:

The constitution can't be illegal. It is legal whether it is good or not. 

HEHEHE  Bhai, GNI gat plenty FILTH HEADS.

Mars posted:

He looks like he just stepped off the boat. 

Bai,

Dat picha was from 25 years ago.

Anyone can dig out their albums from 25 years ago and see a totally different person. Some of dem bannas had big big bell bottom and all with shirts with big big collars and some had shirt jacks etc but dem gun hide those pictures.

Hey Gilly,

Bases on that picture which you posted, I can almost swear that I saw you at a PPP meeting in Berbice. Did you ever speak at a meeting in Berbice ? I think you did.

I don't think that's Yugi.  

Dat pita was 25 years ago. We now look different than we did 25 years ago. Yuji is now pass 50 and looks 35. I never looked my age all my life, so far. I was skinny as hell and still maintain a very healthy weight to this day.

Being vegetarian, non smoker, non drinker helps.

I ride a bike in the summertime and hope to become like D2 but I heard that he is too good.

yuji22 posted:

Paging Mitwah,

Are you in any one of those pictures ? There is one of with young Yuji with his denim jacket. 

Chota Bhai, I will never expose who you are. I wore bell bottom pants and had a heavy jacket since we came in from Montreal to join the group.