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OK Folks!

 

As usual, the Rev will compel you to think in ways you don't usually think---outside the box.

 

LETS PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND EXAMINE GUYANA'S DEMOGRAPHICS WITH A FOCUS ON AMERINDIANS AND EAST INDIANS.

 

The purpose of this thread is to show that as long as the East Indian and Amerindian combination remains above 50% Guyana is safe from being ruled by the terrorists in the PNC and the country will continue to progress.

 

 

Rev

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GUYANA DEMOCRAPHICS: AMERINDIANS + EAST INDIANS

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Guyana

 

* Guyana's population = 750,000

 

* Guyanese Amerindian population = 9.2%

 

* Guyana's East Indian population = 43.5%

 

DOING THE MATH

 

Amerindians = 9.2% of 750,000 = 69,000

 

East Indians = 43.5% of 750,000 = 326,250

 

Amerindians + East Indians = 395,250 = 52.7%

 

 

CONCLUSION:

 

As long as the East Indian and Amerindian combo remains above 50%--its 52.7% right now---Guyana is safe from the chechens(terrorists) in the PNC and their partners in crime the Dirty PNC Indians in the AFC.

 

Rev

FM

RE: THE DIRTY PNC INDIANS

 

These are the scoundrels who are working 24/7 to help put the chechens(terrorists) in the PNC back into power.

 

QUESTION:

 

Since we are chatting demographics---what is the size of the dirty PNC Indians in Guyana ?

 

* A good estimate is the dirty PNC Indians make up around 7.5% of the East Indian population.

 

* 7.5% of 326,250 East Indians = 24,487 dirty PNC Indians

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

God bless the Amerindian people. 30 years ago they overwhelmingly supported the United Force(UF), but since the PPP returned to power, the Amerindians have seen the goodness in the PPP, and today 70% of Amerindians support the PPP. With the dirty PNC Indians doing their darndest to return the evil PNC to power, Guyana in indebted to the great Amerindian people for their wisdom in supporting the PPP.

 

 

Amerindians + East Indians = 395,250 = 52.7%

 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Rev You are one hundred percent correct. The PPP MUST focus on these voters. Resources must be wisely spent in these areas. The PPP must not waste resources in PNC areas like Linden etc. People in these areas will eat in your plate and then try to stab you in your back.

The people of Linden demonstrating their "gratitude"

 

 

Yuji:

 

The time has come for the PPP to stop kissing up to the unthankful souls in places like Linden and start focusing more on the people who will keep the party in power and contribute to Guyana's growth and development---the Berbicians and the Amerindians.

 

 

Rev

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev:

OK Folks!

 

As usual, the Rev will compel you to think in ways you don't usually think---outside the box.

 

LETS PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND EXAMINE GUYANA'S DEMOGRAPHICS WITH A FOCUS ON AMERINDIANS AND EAST INDIANS.

 

The purpose of this thread is to show that as long as the East Indian and Amerindian combination remains above 50% Guyana is safe from being ruled by the terrorists in the PNC and the country will continue to progress.

 

 

Rev


Your assumptions are based on the notion that the PPP will get 100% of the votes from these two groups.  Given that they get fewer than 10% of the votes from the other 50% (Africans and Mixed) then your analysis falls flat.  The PPP cannot guarantee that it will win enough African/mixed votes to offset the Indian/Amerindian votes that it does not get.

 

What should also disturb you is that the Amerindians who voted for the UF in prior elections switched to the PNC and AFC last time.  Given the traditional hostility of the Rupununi to the PNC such behavior will drive you insane.

 

Rev you had your analyses last year and screamed that Obama cannot win more than 47%.  Well he won 51%, and took Virginia, and almost took North carolina, two traditional GOP states.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

GUYANA DEMOCRAPHICS: AMERINDIANS + EAST INDIANS

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Guyana

 

* Guyana's population = 750,000

 

* Guyanese Amerindian population = 9.2%

 

* Guyana's East Indian population = 43.5%

 

DOING THE MATH

 

Amerindians = 9.2% of 750,000 = 69,000

 

East Indians = 43.5% of 750,000 = 326,250

 

Amerindians + East Indians = 395,250 = 52.7%

 

 

CONCLUSION:

 

As long as the East Indian and Amerindian combo remains above 50%--its 52.7% right now---Guyana is safe from the chechens(terrorists) in the PNC and their partners in crime the Dirty PNC Indians in the AFC.

 

Rev


First thing is the total population cannot be used to determine what the composition of the VOTING age population is.

 

1.  The African and East Indian populations are older than the Amerindian, due to lower birth rates, and so will comprise a higher % of the VOTING AGE vote.

 

2.  The tremendous explosion in the mixed population occurred mainly since 1991, so most of these are still to young to vote. So the%  of the VOTING age which is  mixed population is lower than the  % of the population which is mixed.

 

3.  Given the tremendous transporttaion difficulties in the interior voter turn out will be lower than on the coast.  Many Amerindians view this whole fiasco as nonsense perpetrated by a bunch of greedy and racist coastlanders and so do not vote.  As more Amerindians become free from tochao influence bribing the tochaos will return less in terms of votes.

 

Also Indian migration rates are the highest of all so an election in 2014 or 2016 will show a smaller Indo VOTING age population.

 

 

The PPP is trapped by racists like you.  It is losing some of the younger Indo vote, but not capturing younger Afros or mixed voters to offset that.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Rev You are one hundred percent correct. The PPP MUST focus on these voters. Resources must be wisely spent in these areas. The PPP must not waste resources in PNC areas like Linden etc. People in these areas will eat in your plate and then try to stab you in your back.


Funny Linden showed you last year that it can seriously disrupt life in the interior and you still think that you can ignore them!

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 
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Your assumptions are based on the notion that the PPP will get 100% of the votes from these two groups. 


carib:

 

In 2011 the PPP received 48.6% of the votes.

 

THE LIKELY BREAKDOWN BY RACE WAS:

 

* PPP received 86% of East Indian votes

* PPP received 8% of black votes

* PPP received 14% of Mixed heritage votes

* PPP received 70% of Amerindian votes.

 

DID YOU SEE THAT ?

 

86% of East Indians voted for the PPP; 70% of Amerindians.

 

QUESTION:

 

Why should the PPP waste time and money in places like Region 10(Linden) ? Only 8% of blacks voted for the PPP.

 

The PPP needs to focus more on Berbicians and the Amerindians.

 

Rev

 

 

 

FM

Black Thugs, Rapist & Killers who the East Indians & Amerindians will Keep Far from.....and Never Embrace......

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-5483.html

What was the role of the House of Israel in Guyana?

Was Rabbi Edward Washington really a religious leader or

 a political thug for the PNC?

 

 *******3 ministers of state******

Ramotar & Jagdeo lures House of Israel founder

Joe Hamilton to join PPP/C

  http://saveguyana.wordpress.co...ory/house-of-israel/

 


 

After arriving in Guyana sometime in 1972, 

Hill announced himself as Rabbi Edward Washington, in an attempt to cover

his true identity, and began the House of Israel (again),



The US Government’s refusal to extradite Rabbi is still murky territory,

and many still believe that justifies the claim that Rabbi was part of the

CIA/ US Government aid to keep Burnham in power.



The House of Israel: This name, as I understand it, is the name that the  Falasha people,

 an Ethiopian Jewish tribe which called themselves the House of Israel and claimed lineage to Menilek I,

 traditionally the son of the Queen of Sheba (Makeda) and King Solomon. Despite its name, the

 House of Israel had no ties with traditional Jewish theology, biblical lineage, or for that matter,

any connection with the Ethiopians.

It was simply and essentially a Black supremacist movement.



 

 Unlike the People’s Temple (Jim Jones) that started in the US but had primarily

US-born Black members, members of the House of Israel were primarily Black Guyanese. 

Through its daily program that aired on the state-owned radio free of government criticism,

 it preached that Africans were the original Hebrews and needed to prepare for a racial war.

 This racial war was in Rabbi’s words, the “battle of Armageddon” between Blacks  and Indians.

Rabbi even boated that his organization was a “military operation” which “need to be prepared” for this eventful day.

In February 1980, the WPA, using government documents, made public headlines

 showing that arms flowed from the Guyana Defense Force to Rabbi’s organization.

 



House Rule: The House of Israel (like PNC party and government) was ruled by one man only, in Rabbi.

Only Burnham stood above Rabbi in mere theological terms; the Guyanese leader being “Moses” and Rabbi “Aaron.”        

  In this, “Burnham’s church,” all members relinquished personal possessions to the organization and

pledged allegiance to Rabbi, who espoused a kind of messianic control. He had numerous bedmates and

 was the primary owner of all assets (including two farms received from patrons).

Members were encouraged not to date, seek employment, or marry outside of the group,  and when such was desired,

 the permission of Rabbi was needed for validation.        

Like Burnham, Rabbi left no room for betrayals or competition for power.        

 While his “seven ministers of state” made decisions, it was Rabbi himself who noted

in The New York Times, October 21, 1979 issue, that “it is safe to say that I am the first and last word.”

 



Scab Labor and Terrorism:

The hymen-like association between the House of Israel and the Guyana Government (and PNC party),

was symbolized by the colors that the members wore, which were, incidentally, the same colors of the PNC party

and the Guyana Government (Guyana’s national colors).        

 But a greater connection can be made through the terrorist nature of House members in favor of the Burnham

government, beating up on opposition political activists and providing scab labor.

 

While Father Darke’s murder is the  most famous of the crimes committed by House members,

there were other  cases. Mike James (also from Catholic Standard) and Gordon Yearwood, who was a fierce,

 well-known critic of Burnham were also beaten and stabbed respectively that fateful day.

The police, instead of seeking to apprehend those responsible,

set up guard at the House of Israel premise to prevent angry members of the public from retaliating.  

 

         

In a climate that saw the rise and demise of Jim Jones, the arrival of the Black Power advocate from the US,

 Stokely Carmichael, who preached that Blacks should do whatever was necessary to have absolute power,

the emergence of Burnham’s socialism, the economic restrictions and reduced standard of living due to IMF loans,

and immense anti-government sentiments,................................

 the arrival of Dr. Walter Rodney not only breathed new and energetic fuel into the Opposition’s turbine,

 it brought the single most dangerous threat to Burnham.

 The WPA became the chief target for the House of Israel.

Below is Eusi Kwayana’s account of one such WPA rally that was broken up by Rabbi’s men at Delph Street

and Campbell Avenue in Georgetown on August 22, 1979.

“After being dispersed, Moses Bhagwan who hid among some livestock in a nearby yard was found,

dragged out, beaten, and left with a broken arm,

while Rodney who ran and was able to escape uninjured, became the subject of a Burnham joke.

Burnham said that he would send Rodney  to the Olympics because of Rodney’s athletic prowess."

 



Below is an account of the meeting by Eusi Kwayana

 (see Walter Rodney. Kwayana E, Georgetown: Working People’s Alliance, 1988, 15);        

 â€œA Squad of uniformed policemen, including Rabbi Washington’s men dressed in police uniform

 and carrying no regulation numbers, attacked the meeting which they claimed was illegal.

It was a total assault with batons on the crowd of peaceful citizens by a crowd of well armed policemen

of the Tactical Service Unit (Riot Squad)â€ĶScores of people were beaten by the police.        

 They were on fire with venom not noticed before. This was due to the House of Israel.”

 



One month earlier, in July of 1979, the building, which housed the office of the General Secretary of the PNC

 and the Ministry of National Development, was burned down. Despite eyewitnesses’ claims of seeing men in

army uniforms,leading WPA leaders/political activists including Drs. Rodney, Roopnarine, and Omawale were arrested.

 



While thousands protested at their trial outside the court house, news photographer for the Catholic Standard,

Father Bernard Darke was stabbed to death in the presence of onlookers (police included).

The man charged for committing the act was Bilal Ato, a House member.

Despite all of this, PNC information-frontman, Kit Nacimento, one week after the crime

referred to the House of Israel as a “religious group that lives in a cloistered, communal atmosphere.

The members have declared their  support for the government and they haven’t committed any crimes.

There is no reason why we should be concerned” (Toronto Star, July 22, 1979).

 





The ordinary layman Guyanese may never know the true nature of the House of Israel.

Was it a criminal organization?

Was it only a Black power movement that opened its doors to no one who was not Black?

 Were the people who disrupted and prevented delegates from attending the annual general meeting

of the Guyana Council of Churches in Georgetown in 1985 from House of Israel?

Was David Hill, a.k.a. Rabbi Washington an instrument of the CIA/ US Government in their assistance

to Forbes Burnham, in what was an exchange of prison time in the US for terrorism in Guyana?

 



In a country like ours where history was rarely recorded,and when it was, it was done in accordance with the whims

of the ruling government, it is difficult to discredit people or organization correctly for regional and national failures.

People can only assume what they have heard, and may only be convinced themselves of what they may have seen.         Thus, with rare police, court, or national archival records of many of the notorious activities of the past, one is forced to fit rumors

and assumptions into perspective of their national history.

While the criminal role of the House of Israel was rarely a question, the extent of this role is what remains, still,

 a subject of debate.

 In the end, one can only feel somewhat justified that where the US Government failed to keep it’s convict in prison,

Burnham’s successor, Hugh Hoyte, was correct to have Rabbi Washington and key associates tried and imprisoned

on a long-standing manslaughter charge.*

In  August 1992, Rabbi Washington, was released have served his time concurrently.  

Dismayed at the politicians in Guyana, he travelled to the US hoping to  re-start life there.

But fearing a re-capture by the FBI, he returned to Guyana.

The House of Israel is still present in Guyana today,

but the "Rabbi" is not the head of the organization,

and Lamumba, Hamilton and Kwame continue to operate as usual......

Under the Umbrella & Cover...... provided by Jagdeo & Ramotar

 
  

 

 

Despite the many and varied personas of Rabbi Hill, the members of his religious sect, House of Israel, paint a far different picture of their spiritual guide. His mostly Guyanese followers christened him King Elijah, their beloved leader whose rhetoric of black nationalist tinged spirituality gave them a vision of uplift and empowerment. It was a lesson and memory they held dear long after his death and despite accusations about his more nefarious character.

 

In contrast, anti-Burnham political activists who encountered Hill, described yet another persona. Diverging from Jim Jones’ strategy of an insular community, Hill extended his reach beyond religion and reached great political heights by forging close ties to Forbes Burnham and his political party the People’s National Congress (PNC).

As Jim Jones retreated to the interior, Hill remained in the urban center crafting and maneuvering around the often-prickly conflicts within Guyanese politics. In the process, Hill became known as a presidential henchman whose pro-PNC activities led to strike breaks and the death of Catholic Jesuit priest and opposition party supporter, Father Bernard Darke.



How Hill became tied to the Burnham government during this period is unknown.[2]

 Hill’s theological teachings and Burnham’s rhetorical support of black power were more than a little similar, however. Burnham, leader of the PNC, had come into power through a coalition against the opposition party, PPP (People’s Progressive Party) led by Cheddi Jagan.

 Both parties were heavily aligned by ethnicity and race with the PPP being predominantly Indo-Guyanese, and the PNC being mostly Afro-Guyanese.

 In order to obtain power, numerically outnumbered PNC had to form an alliance with the mostly conservative and Euro/Sino/Iberio-Guyanese party, United Force.

However, in subsequent years, PNC maintained its power and its position in government through voter fraud and intimidation.

Both Hill, and later Jim Jones, stepped into a backdrop of attacks against opposition parties, strike breaking, intimidations, and government assassinations of anti-Burnham figures like the well-known scholar activist Walter Rodney.

To a certain degree, Jim Jones was removed from the political melee taking place. The Temple’s transformation of the interior region of the country served Burnham’s socialist style of economic development, raised his international stature as an active sponsor for victims persecuted by racist and colonial governments, and expanded his reach outside the urban spaces of Guyana.

Despite the calculating, sometimes unscrupulous, behavior of the PNC and Burnham, Peoples Temple went about the business of its community while Hill became embroiled in maintaining the PNC’s control of the Guyanese government.

Although most scholars assumed this support to be unflinching, in reality, the House of Israel had a complex relationship with the PNC. Undeniably, it operated as the PNC’s party arm. (BLACK PNC THUGS & KILLERS)

House of Israel was known to support the government by becoming strike laborers,

attending pro-government rallies and

intimidating or disrupting opposition party meetings.

 

In addition, a House of Israel member did indeed kill journalist Father Darke of the opposition paper Catholic Standard, though the organization noted that it was an accidental event in which an out of control “hot head” member acted outside the parameters of House of Israel’s edict.[3] Others, of course, would beg to disagree.

 

Still, House of Israel members advocated for Burnham for two reasons.

 First, many members, including Rabbi Hill, felt it was their duty to support a black government against the efforts of the Indo-Guyanese to seize control. Viewed by many in the country as an elite layer akin to whites, domination by the Indo-Guyanese was of particular concern.

Even when black power advocate Stokely Carmichael was invited to Guyana, his speech alluded to as much.

Coming from the political framework of the United States of two conflicting races, Rabbi Hill read the racial divisions between the two groups in the same way.

 

Second, and unknown to many, Washington/Hill had purportedly been threatened with deportation back to the United States.[4] As such, Washington was caught between acting the good guest and all that might entail or jail.

 

The relationship with the PNC became more strained after the death of Father Darke.

Although the member went unpunished for a number of years,......

 the death of Father Darke stained House of Israel’s efforts to present itself as a politically active religious group and

put it squarely in the box of being considered a tool of the PNC and the dictatorship of Burnham.

 



Tool of the PNC or active participant, the House of Israel was still at its center a religious organization – a fact historians fail to engage on any level. House of Israel members actually described themselves as a nation with its own religion. It is a religion centered on a Judaic faith, but with a belief that African people are the Israelites of the bible, and thus the true chosen people of God. The House of Israel also incorporated into its dogma aspects of new age religion, which included a belief in UFO’s, spiritual healing, and visions. In fact, most members’ visions centered on the image of Rabbi Hill. The choice of Hill as the subject of vision had much to do with who he was to the members of the House of Israel. To those who loved and followed Rabbi Hill, he was not a con-man. He was not the black power activist, and he was certainly not a henchman of the PNC.

Rabbi Hill was King Elijah – God’s prophet in human form.[5] Members would report seeing visions of his face before joining House of Israel and experiencing spiritual healings, which, as well as his mysterious knowledge about their lives, served as proof of his other worldliness. That God sent a short, pudgy black man to lift up African people even in the far off corners of Guyana said less about them and more about the limited thinking of outsiders who believed God could only send one, merely in the form of Jesus, solely in the Middle East, and not as an African.

 

Despite this alternate view of spirituality and religion, members were still considered among Guyanese people as part of a crazy cult. It was a point driven home by the derisive rhymes of young children who would follow members with the lines,

“If you see me, don’t talk to me

Rabbi People, don’t wear panty.”

The cult image was hardly limited to Guyanese children and their guardians. Apprehensions over Rabbi Hill’s religious presence in Guyana became obsessive after 1978 with the mass death of over 900 Peoples Temple members. Media spotlighted Hill and the House of Israel as the next possible “Peoples Temple.”

 

In fact, newspapers around the world from Montreal Gazette to the Virgin Island Daily News featured pieces on the “new” Jim Jones cult in Guyana with claims that his followers numbered in the thousands (apx. 8000) and that they would do anything he asked – including killing themselves. Public fear abound that another Jim Jones incident was on the horizon. Of course, ever the propagandist, Hill made sure to note that he would never ask such a thing, only that his parishioners were willing to follow all that he commanded. Still, speculation was enough to regain the attention of the FBI and to motivate the arrival of an ABC news crew to see the “second” Jim Jones.

 

By the time news crews left Guyana, Rabbi Hill was tagged as a U.S. criminal whose cult activities in Guyana would unfold to become another, perhaps larger tragedy. Attention remained on Hill well into the early 1980s. However, Hill’s fortunes rose and fell with the Burnham government.

With the 1985 death of Prime Minister Burnham, Hill was left open to attack and repudiation. Hill and top religious leaders eventually went to prison and were released in the 90s. Hill returned to the United States and settled in Newark, New Jersey where he died in 2001.

 

(Nishani Frazier is a Professor of History at Miami University. Her current writing project is a history of civil rights in Cleveland, Ohio. Her scholarship also includes oral history, African American history, and dissident religious groups. For comments or additional information and sources, contact her at frazien@muohio.edu">frazien@muohio.edu.)

 

 


 

  
 
 

 

 

   A     Man's Final Hour:

Arguably the post important photograph (image cropped by GUS for emphasis) of the seventies, British Jesuit priest, mistaken for Father Andrew Morrison, editor behind Catholic Standard, is chased by PNC-sponsored House of Israel thugs on July 14, 1979 on Brickdam Street just outside St. Stanislaus College where he taught.

Father Darke was in the vacinity of the courthouse that day, where Dr. Walter Rodney was being tried.    

 Father Darke died later in the hospital due to stab wounds sustained.

 Bilal  Ato, one of his attackers, served 8 years for the crime of manslaughter, having plunged a bayonet into the priest 

 (see photo below).

 

 

A Few Notable Quotes: 
The House of Israel is a “pseudoreligious cult that has little to do with religions.              It's merely a pseudomilitary arm of the ruling PNC party."  

          -Eusi Kwayana, The New York Times, Oct 21, 1979.

 



         "I'll  never again be used by politicians."          

          -Rabbi Washington, after his release from prison in 1992.

 

 

The House of Israel is a “religious group that lives in a cloistered, communal atmosphere.         

The members have declared their support for the government and they haven’t committed any crimes.

There is no reason why we should be concerned.”           

 -PNC Minister, Kit Nacimento, one week after Father Darke was murdered.         

 See the Toronto Star, July 22, 1979.    

 

 

“If you see me, don’t talk to me

 

Rabbi People, don’t wear panty.”

 



 This racial war was in Rabbi’s words,

 the “battle of Armageddon”

Between Indians & Blacks





Norman McLean

In February 1980, the WPA, using government documents,

made public headlines......showing that arms flowed from

the Guyana Defense Force to Rabbi’s organization.

 

"in 1979, as well as during the early and mid-1980s, the government used  the House of Israel to break strikes and to disrupt public meetings of any group  that the government felt might oppose its policies.

Observers claimed that House  of Israel members were accompanied by police and sometimes wore police uniforms  during these incidents.

 

 â€œA Squad of uniformed policemen, including Rabbi Washington’s men dressed in police uniform and carrying no regulation numbers, attacked the meeting which they claimed was illegal.

It was a total assault with batons on the crowd of peaceful citizens by a crowd of well armed policemen of the Tactical Service Unit (Riot Squad)â€ĶScores of people were beaten by the police. 

In 1985 House of Israel members allegedly prevented  delegates from entering the annual general meeting of the Guyana Council of  Churches in Georgetown. 

 

Serving as a paramilitary force for the PNC, the House of Israel had 8,000 members, including a 300-member guard force known as the "royal cadets."

From 1980 until mid-1985, organized gangs of Afro-Guyanese terrorized Indo-Guyanese communities.

The groups' trademark method of entry earned them the sobriquet kick-down-the-door gangs.

The gangs were fully armed and used military tactics and techniques. Gang crimes against the Indo-Guyanese included robbery and occasionally rape or murder.

 

During the 28-year dictatorship, we saw political activists killed, jailed on trump up charges and harassment of opposition political activists, unleashing of terror, suppression of press freedom and denial of basic human rights.

We saw PPP activists Jagan Ramessar and Bholanauth Parmand killed by the security forces;

we saw WPA's Winston Dublin and Dr. Walter Rodney assassinated;

we saw Catholic Priest, Father Bernard Darke murdered in broad daylight;

we saw Rabbi Washington's House of Israel thugs beat and unleashed terror on opposition forces;

we saw PPP's Arnold Rampersaud on a trumped up murder charge facing three trials and spending over 1,000 days in prison and being severely tortured, we saw scores being hounded and charged with treason;

we saw WPA leaders being charged with arson for the burning down of the infamous Ministry of National Development and Mobilisation which housed the Office Of the General Secretary of the People's National Congress;

we saw the doctrine of the Paramountcy of the Party being entrenched, and the PNC Flag being flown over the Courts including the Court of Appeal; we saw 52 bauxite workers thrown into a cell and teargassed; we saw a veteran trade union leader threateaned with being thrown out of an aircraft while airborne. The list could go on. But such was the state of our country during that dark period.

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 
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Your assumptions are based on the notion that the PPP will get 100% of the votes from these two groups. 


carib:

 

In 2011 the PPP received 48.6% of the votes.

 

THE LIKELY BREAKDOWN BY RACE WAS:

 

* PPP received 86% of East Indian votes

* PPP received 8% of black votes

* PPP received 14% of Mixed heritage votes

* PPP received 70% of Amerindian votes.

 

DID YOU SEE THAT ?

 

86% of East Indians voted for the PPP; 70% of Amerindians.

 

QUESTION:

 

Why should the PPP waste time and money in places like Region 10(Linden) ? Only 8% of blacks voted for the PPP.

 

The PPP needs to focus more on Berbicians and the Amerindians.

 

Rev

 

 

 


Rev you never told us why you were so wrong about Obama's demolishing Romney. I mean he even won in Virginia, a die hard GOP state and barely lost in NC.

 

If you were so wrong in the USA, where there are reliable polls I find lost to laugh at you in Guyana.

 

What I find especially hilarious is your ability to separate the "African" from the "mixed".  Given that many Africans have some degree of non African ancestry, so there is no definite clear cut division between the groups, how are you so able to have so defined a notion as to how each voted.

 

Better for you to use African/Mixed as I do because these groups are not distinct.  Indeed Trotman sometimes calls himself Mixed, and sometimes he calls himself Black.  So which category do your polls place him, given that in Guyana ethnic definitions are determined by self identification, which as you see can be quite fluid.

 

Indeed there were two ethnic surveys in the early 90s.  One placed Africans at 29% and another at 37%.  Clearly there is a large group who can go either way. 

 

So quit your bogus stats and understand that as the East Indian population declines, and becomes less tied to the PPP.  As the African/Mixed population remains hostile to the PPP.  And as the Amerindians remain indifferent and have low voter turn out or voter registration, you cannot say with certainly as to how people will vote.

 

I mean if APNU finds intelligence, which they currently lack, it might surprise you as to how well they might do.  Grainger isnt goping to be around for ever and there is anew crop beginning to emerge.  The PNC is more tolerant of its new crop than the PPP is of theirs.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 
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Your assumptions are based on the notion that the PPP will get 100% of the votes from these two groups. 


carib:

 

In 2011 the PPP received 48.6% of the votes.

 

THE LIKELY BREAKDOWN BY RACE WAS:

 

* PPP received 86% of East Indian votes

* PPP received 8% of black votes

* PPP received 14% of Mixed heritage votes

* PPP received 70% of Amerindian votes.

 

DID YOU SEE THAT ?

 

86% of East Indians voted for the PPP; 70% of Amerindians.

 

QUESTION:

 

Why should the PPP waste time and money in places like Region 10(Linden) ? Only 8% of blacks voted for the PPP.

 

The PPP needs to focus more on Berbicians and the Amerindians.

 

Rev

 

 

 


1.  Berbice is DECLINING!

 

2.  Linden will wreak hovoc to regions 7, 8 and 9 if they remain neglected.

 

If I were you I would suggest that the PPP makes that town a priority as sthey cannot be ignored. Neither can Agricola, or Buxton.  Guyana with its minimal road system is easily disrupted by a small group of people.

 

Amerindians will NOT support the PPP if they starve.  They will simply not vote.

FM

Rev assuming that Indians are 45% of the voters and 85% vote PPP.  Africans are 32% and 8% vote PPP.  Mixed are 15% and 15% vote PPP and Amerindiana sare 8% and 60% vote PPP. The PPP gets 48%.

 

After those women were shot in Region 9 and other incidents involving abuse of Amerindians you are being truly foolish if you think that this hasnt had some impact on their support of the PPP.

 

The surest way for the PPP to win is to get at least 20% of the African/mixed votes.

 

So continue to promote your hatred of AfroGuyanese.  Believe me lots of people read GNI and it is clear as day that what unityes PPP supporters is that they hate black people.  Its obvious as day that  non racist Indians tend not to support the PPP, based on what we see on GNI.

FM

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