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New River Triangle Debacle…Bharrat

Jagdeo pressed for mining in disputed

area

December 19, 2013 | By | Filed Under News 

…Cabinet members opposed but then President held strong position

 

It was former President Bharrat Jagdeo who began the pursuit to explore and mine in the disputed New River Triangle Area, during his last term in Office, despite the fact that several of the members of the Cabinet at the time did not agree with the move.


This confirmation came yesterday from Head of the Presidential Secretariat, Dr Roger Luncheon, who was at the time being questioned by reporters following his post Cabinet press engagement at Office of the President.

 

Former President Bharrat Jagdeo

Former President
Bharrat Jagdeo

 

Dr Luncheon was asked whether the government policy on mining in that area changed.
“I am uncertain as to if there was a specific policy,” but it was the 2006 term of former president Jagdeo, when he brought up the issue of mining and exploring in that location, Dr. Luncheon said.
Dr. Luncheon added, “At that time, the President had a strong position that was not consistent with others in the Cabinet; but we are an advisory body as you would recall and therefore the president’s view held sway. That was 2006 to 2011.”
Asked if the sitting President, Donald Ramotar, is pursuing the lines of Jagdeo, Dr. Luncheon responded, “I am not saying anything further…2006 to 2011.”


Dr. Luncheon was asked about the Government not heeding the warning of former Army Chief, Joe Singh when the Guyana Defence Force (GDF) had objected to similar moves by the administration under the late President, Cheddi Jagan.
He responded, “Policy making in these areas isn’t dependent on objections and refusals by the military…that is alien to our understanding of civilian, military relationship.”
Dr. Luncheon also holds the position of Secretary to the Defence Board and said that under the three successive army chiefs, he is not aware of any objections to mining on Muri Mountain.
He said that in the “civilian/military dispensation that we embrace, the military has an obligation to respond with respect to civilian order.”
Dr. Luncheon was speaking to the civilian executive that heads up the administration.
According to Dr Luncheon, “If the Commander-in-Chief were to announce to the military, announce to this nation that this is the government policy, under our understanding of civilian, military, relationship, (is that) the matter is done.”
Dr. Luncheon told media operatives that “the notion that this civilian military relationship preserves some right, some influence on the actions and the policy decisions made by the civilian government needs to be examined carefully.”
According to the Head of State, “This ain’t about going to war…this is not making decisions about military science and military disciplines, this is civilian authority on an issue that deals in this case here with mining.”

Robert Persaud

Robert Persaud

 

The government spokesman told the media,  “One must be very careful lest you appear to be suggesting that this civilian military relationship is so broad, is so expansive, is so amorphous that indeed their exists privileged space for the civilian administration to have to take into consideration in these matters positions by its military.”
Ever since the disclosure that Minister of Natural Resources and Environment, Robert Persaud, had given permission to Muri Brasil Ventures Inc to conduct Geological and Geophysical Surveys in the disputed New River Triangle location it has attracted significant criticism.


The company was granted the Permission a few months after it was registered, to survey a whopping 2.2 million acres of land.
Inherent in the permission given the company was also given the right to pursue 18 prospecting licence to mine for gold, diamonds and several other rare earth elements.
The company had sought to defend this by saying, “These kinds of exploration activities cost millions of US dollars, which can only be sourced as exploration investments from outside of Guyana…No such investments would be available if the investor is given no assurance that he will be granted prospecting licences.”
The Company argued that it is the investor taking a risk and if he/she is not assured of a potential return, investment capital will dry up and so will Guyana’s mining industry.

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Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by asj:
Did Bharrat took bribe to give away 2.2 million acres of land?

Yet another continued distortions by ASJ. 

and it goes on and on good going collie vote ppp

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by asj:
Did Bharrat took bribe to give away 2.2 million acres of land?

Yet another continued distortions by ASJ. 

You are an ass. He is asking a valid question. Go take your medication.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by asj:
Did Bharrat took bribe to give away 2.2 million acres of land?

Yet another continued distortions by ASJ. 

and it goes on and on good going collie vote ppp

That old fool is morally bankrupt.

Mitwah

What this fool ASJ crying about, its just a prospecting license. People are not going to prospect for free, they expect to be given mining rights if samples show promise and the govt will get their cut for any minerals mined. This idiot like to scream fire. Maybe Mitjuanita did not induct him properly into the pedo gang.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

What this fool ASJ crying about, its just a prospecting license. People are not going to prospect for free, they expect to be given mining rights if samples show promise and the govt will get their cut for any minerals mined. This idiot like to scream fire. Maybe Mitjuanita did not induct him properly into the pedo gang.

You are a fag. Run along now and go suck your goadee.

 

Mitwah
Last edited by Mitwah
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

What sort of a sexual deviant are you? Mr Nehru likes prostitutes and you anal sex? What a weirdo. 

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

What sort of a sexual deviant are you? Mr Nehru likes prostitutes and you anal sex? What a weirdo. 

I will always like you JB, my Sugar Pie.

Nehru
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

What sort of a sexual deviant are you? Mr Nehru likes prostitutes and you anal sex? What a weirdo. 

He is a fag.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

Drugb why don't you tell us more, when your muslim friend and you used to look at TV enjoying each other, did you, an old wh$ore remember that. Because of your godee you had to take it from the back.......figure you enjoyed that a whole lot..........well you told us that on GNI. All the old posters would have know this, that your are an anti man.

FM
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 


I do understand what you mean JB, no one, not even Jagdoe would give anything for free, much less the 2.2 Milliion Acres of Guyana's Land. It stands to reason that Backshish were passed.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

What this fool ASJ crying about, its just a prospecting license. People are not going to prospect for free, they expect to be given mining rights if samples show promise and the govt will get their cut for any minerals mined. This idiot like to scream fire. Maybe Mitjuanita did not induct him properly into the pedo gang.

 

C'mon godee wallah tell us more, when your muslim friend and you used to look at TV enjoying each other, did you, an old wh$ore remember that. Because of your godee you had to take it from the back.......figure you enjoyed that a whole lot..........well you told us that on GNI. All the old posters would have know this, that your are an anti man.

 

Those were your best times when you were taking it from the back. 

 

As Mits would say "You are a fag. Run along now and go suck your goadee."

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

Drugb why don't you tell us more, when your muslim friend and you used to look at TV enjoying each other, did you, an old wh$ore remember that. Because of your godee you had to take it from the back.......figure you enjoyed that a whole lot..........well you told us that on GNI. All the old posters would have know this, that your are an anti man.

 

You are confused, maybe you fantasize about yourself with a muslim man and now try to project this on me. Now don't get mad at me, it was JB who mentioned that Jagdeo used to do it to you for money.

 

In fact this all ties back to your claim about your dealings with Ramoutar was sour, maybe you tried the same shyte with him and was disappointed when he rejected you due to him already having wife and family. 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by JB:

Mr ASJ it was not done by Mr Bharrat Jagdeo for free. He must get a backpay. 

Jagdo used to do Mr ASJ for money? I wasn't aware of this, but this explains his erratic behavior.

Drugb why don't you tell us more, when your muslim friend and you used to look at TV enjoying each other, did you, an old wh$ore remember that. Because of your godee you had to take it from the back.......figure you enjoyed that a whole lot..........well you told us that on GNI. All the old posters would have know this, that your are an anti man.

 

You are confused, maybe you fantasize about yourself with a muslim man and now try to project this on me. Now don't get mad at me, it was JB who mentioned that Jagdeo used to do it to you for money.

 

In fact this all ties back to your claim about your dealings with Ramoutar was sour, maybe you tried the same shyte with him and was disappointed when he rejected you due to him already having wife and family. 

You are a self confessed fag.

Mitwah

C'mon godee wallah tell us more, when your muslim friend and you used to look at TV enjoying each other, did you, an old wh$ore remember that. Because of your godee you had to take it from the back.......figure you enjoyed that a whole episode lot..........well you told us that on GNI. All the old posters would have know this, that your are an anti man.

 

Those were your best times when you were taking it from the back. 

 

As Mits would say "You are a fag. Run along now and go suck your goadee."

 

Drugb is barn to dance.

 
FM

I cannot help comparing ex-President Bharrat Jagdeo to the old kings of Britain. Using his power and authority, he doled out large swaths of territory as if he owned them.

The people's representatives in parliament, the mass media and ordinary Guyanese citizens learn about these deals, MOUs and so on only after the fact.

Neither in British Guiana nor in Burnham Guyana was so much land, forest and mines shared out as in Bharrat Guyana.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I cannot help comparing ex-President Bharrat Jagdeo to the old kings of Britain. Using his power and authority, he doled out large swaths of territory as if he owned them.

The people's representatives in parliament, the mass media and ordinary Guyanese citizens learn about these deals, MOUs and so on only after the fact.

Neither in British Guiana nor in Burnham Guyana was so much land, forest and mines shared out as in Bharrat Guyana.

 


The Corruptions started just after Jagdoe took office, there is so many wrongs that were comitted it would boggles the mind. It all started when our old GAC airliine were shipping drugs by large quantitiles to the USA and they were fined and then fined again and again and then GAC were forced to close. Yes know you know who the culprict were.

FM

GGMC ‘advised against’ New River

Triangle exploration – Official

December 20, 2013 | By | Filed Under News 

 

By Zena Henry
Executives of the Guyana Geology and Mines Commission (GGMC) have stated that support for exploration in the New River Triangle area was not given, since the agency had advised the Natural Resources Ministry against activities to be conducted there.
A GGMC official, who requested anonymity, said that the permission for the Muri Brazil Permission for Geological and Geophysical Survey (PGGS) came as a “ministerial order” by which the agency abided. The official, without going into detail, emphasized however that the Commission advised against the survey.
It was stressed that the GGMC’s advice on the issue was just that, “advice”, since the minister could take it upon himself, based on the power his office to instruct that permission be granted for the go-ahead of activities.
The Ministry of Natural Resources and the Environment in a full page advertisement discredited “misinformation and unsubstantiated remarks” regarding the Permission for Geological and Geophysical Survey occurring in the controversial New River Triangle, Region One.
Members of the Opposition parties have expressed their non-support for the activities given the “secretive” nature in which the Natural Resource’s Ministry is operating. Alliance for Change (AFC) Leader Khemraj Ramjattan, with the support of Vice Chairman Moses Nagamootoo, called for the withdrawal of Muri’s PGGS stating “non- transparency from government on the development of the project.”
The Natural Resource Ministry noted however that ‘expressions of interest,’ regarding the Region One exploration was indeed conducted in March of 2012. The Ministry clarified further that no automatic approval of prospecting licences will be granted to Muri Brazil since the company like any PGGS holder, “could expect to have an option to apply for Prospecting Licences.”
The Ministry’s advertisement said that 2.2 million acres of rights was not granted to the company since the area is for the purpose of aerial survey. The Guyana Gold and Diamond Association (GGDMA) like other stakeholders have registered their support for the Muri exploration stating that there was nothing “sinister about the issuance of the Muri PGGS.”
“As the major stakeholder group of the gold and diamond mining sector in Guyana, the Guyana Gold and Diamond Miners Association (GGDMA) has been following the ongoing debate regarding the issuance of a Permission of a Geological and Geophysical Survey (PGGS) issued to Muri Brazil Ventures Inc.”
The GGDMA and its executive members said that it analyzed the facts of the matter and notes the pronouncements by a media house and other public officials, without relevant checks with Muri Brazil Ventures Inc to verify the information.
It was stated that the media houses and other officials, “need to get their facts right about the operation of the gold mining sector and the Mining Act/Regulations, and not to make uninformed statements, attacking agreements legally entered into between Government and other parties.”
“Constant aerial surveys and exploration activities are necessary to develop the mining industry, and the issuing of a PGGS is a methodology utilized to get mineral information over large areas.
Further, the Guyana Gold and Diamond Miners Association, and its Executive Members remain unmoved by the statements published in the press, and would like to state based upon the facts known/provided that there is nothing sinister about the issuance of a PGGS to Muri Brazil Venture Inc.”
Retired GGMC Commissioner William Woolford in an invited comment told Kaieteur News that in relation to mining in the southern part of the country, there was concern over the threats that small foreign miners posed to the area. He opined that heads could be bumping since as it remains, local miners do not have access to the area, yet a survey is being conducted by a foreign group.
It is still to be stated why local mining operators were never allowed to conduct activities in the southern part of the region. Woolford explained that after recognizance exploration (PGGS), Muri Company gets the right for the prospective licences, providing that the PGGS is satisfied; “which is reasonable,” he opined. This prospective licence -following further stringent requirements- provides for the mining licence which would entail a technical and economic report with environmental impact, social security etc.
It was noted further that several prominent persons would have applied to conduct activities in the southern region of the country and either their application was not processed or accepted. It was noted further that these persons would not have been allowed for activities in the other parts of the area, but a foreign company would have received permission for a PGGS in a most “sensitive” location.
It was further related to this paper that surveys would have been conducted before in the southern part of the region and the area was deemed to have potential for rare minerals.
Retired Chief-of-Staff Edward Collins, also in an invited comment, expressed concerns in terms of the sensitivity of the area, noting that it was a national policy embraced by the Guyana Defence Force that certain activities would not be allowed in the area. He expressed surprise that a foreign entity was allowed to conduct any mining-related works in the area.

 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Did Bharrat took bribe

 

Should your title read: Did Bharrat take bribe?

Skellybai, in contex it was past (tense) so I would use took, in present (tense) I would I would have used take. Maybe I might be wrong. But by asking a question, as is, I am safe. No one can sue and win.

 

Does not make a big difference anyway.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Did Bharrat took bribe

 

Should your title read: Did Bharrat take bribe?

Skellybai, in contex it was past (tense) so I would use took, in present (tense) I would I would have used take. Maybe I might be wrong. But by asking a question, as is, I am safe. No one can sue and win.

 

Does not make a big difference anyway.

Skelly Bhai is right. For that, he gets two tennis rolls with some dutch head cheese.  

Mitwah
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Did Bharrat took bribe

 

Should your title read: Did Bharrat take bribe?

Skellybai, in contex it was past (tense) so I would use took, in present (tense) I would I would have used take. Maybe I might be wrong. But by asking a question, as is, I am safe. No one can sue and win.

 

Does not make a big difference anyway.

ASJ bai,

Me see ada mistakes in some ah yu postings(fri##in lier..should be liar); but me ah tek am lil easy pun yu. Dis wan ah look me strait in me eye, das y me bring am up.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Did Bharrat took bribe

 

Should your title read: Did Bharrat take bribe?

Skellybai, in contex it was past (tense) so I would use took, in present (tense) I would I would have used take. Maybe I might be wrong. But by asking a question, as is, I am safe. No one can sue and win.

 

Does not make a big difference anyway.

Skelly Bhai is right. For that, he gets two tennis rolls with some dutch head cheese.  

skeltonman went to university very educated too bad he did not learn the difference between good and bad what its like to be honest  

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Did Bharrat took bribe

 

Should your title read: Did Bharrat take bribe?

Skellybai, in contex it was past (tense) so I would use took, in present (tense) I would I would have used take. Maybe I might be wrong. But by asking a question, as is, I am safe. No one can sue and win.

 

Does not make a big difference anyway.

Skelly Bhai is right. For that, he gets two tennis rolls with some dutch head cheese.  

skeltonman went to university very educated too bad he did not learn the difference between good and bad what its like to be honest  

Warria,

I have always been an honest person. I always believe that god sent us on this earth to help our fellow man. We have to stand side by side and help our fellow human beings. Without this, we are doomed to destruction. We are fortunate that there are more good than evil people in the world. 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Did Bharrat took bribe

 

Should your title read: Did Bharrat take bribe?

Skellybai, in contex it was past (tense) so I would use took, in present (tense) I would I would have used take. Maybe I might be wrong. But by asking a question, as is, I am safe. No one can sue and win.

 

Does not make a big difference anyway.

Skelly Bhai is right. For that, he gets two tennis rolls with some dutch head cheese.  

skeltonman went to university very educated too bad he did not learn the difference between good and bad what its like to be honest  

Warria,

I have always been an honest person. I always believe that god sent us on this earth to help our fellow man. We have to stand side by side and help our fellow human beings. Without this, we are doomed to destruction. We are fortunate that there are more good than evil people in the world. 

and you still support the corrupt ppp government    

FM

Jagdeo is perceived by many  as being corrupt ....

 

 Was this deal a   " payoff " for the  Mursi people who might have contributed financially to Ramouthar's election campaign....Robert Persaud was the campaign manager responsible for the PPP's elections funds is perceived as a crook so anything might have happened here.....

FM

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