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A deranged homophobic or homosexual person, abusive to his ex-wife,  kills 49 people in a gay bar he frequented for 3 years on the 2nd day of Ramadaan. And Islam as evil is a notion that gains strength.

This guy uses social media to bring the evil ideology of ISIS as his ally - though he never was in contact with ISIS - and on the night of the shooting, while in the hostage-taking part of the 3 hour-standoff, he claims allegiance to said ISIS. And Islam as evil is a notion that gains strength.

A deranged guy walks in to a Black Christian church and kills all those people and he's described as mentally deranged. Same for the abortion clinic shooter. And no religion is seen as evil.

Do all white people carry the slavery burden? Should all Muslims carry a burden validated by some (and here on this Board) wrought by a minority who does not act in the way of its religion?

Does even showering this burden on Muslims help? Does it make non-Muslims safer? If I were to all Islam evil, would it stop these shootings? Would I be guilty of helping future shooters by not attacking this ideology instead of attacking this religion? Or is the high of calling Islam evil the salve that people indulge in and then go back to their regular lives?

Meantime these anti-Muslims calling themselves continue to kill Muslims at a rate that make the Pulse number pale in comparison. The family of the people who get killed do not call Islam evil. Think about it.

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I try to avoid threads of this type. The temptation is too great.

I think you ought ask yourself whether you are an Arab or an Indian.

U need to understand the culture of the Arabs and their role in prophecies.

Converts of all religions doan really grasps the significance of the Jews and Arab muslims. We get only what suits us in Islam, Judaism and Christianity.

Mateen was a convert, he was not a Arab. Only converts do stupid things.

Syrians and Iraqies kill themselves over there. Converts kill in the West. And the converts will be the army whenever the Madhi joins up with the Muslim Christ, when they both arrive in Syria. That is why Syria and the first christian church seized by the Muslim Armies are so important to the caliphate.

I think u r missing the purpose of the faith. It is suppose dominate the whole world. I had an Iranian refugee working with me for a while, 20 years back. He told me so, I told him he was crazy. He said, "just wait and see.

Many years later, I hear the previous President spoke of it. They teach their people to expect that coming.

Do u know of all of that?

 

 

S

So Seignet, what you're advocating is that the non-Arab Muslims - 1.2 billion out of the 1.6 Muslims worldwide - should renounce Islam and go back to the religion or beliefs of their ancestors before they were converted.

It's an interesting piece by you in that of the 3 Mid-East religions Christianity spread to Western Europe whereas Judaism actually did not spread (some went to Europe from the Middle East) and Islam was spread to Asia largely. It's interesting also that your Iranian refugee colleague is the authority on the thesis that the Arabs want to take over the world and its use of Islam is the key.

It's also noteworthy that "the culture of the Arabs and their role in prophecies" is what we miss. Well I'm glad we missed this as we'd wipe out all the nations of what is the Arab Middle East with our nukes by now, and then no one would want to take over the world.

I think you're of invaluable help here Seignet to understand the helpless ignorance of the human condition and thanks for your insights in what contributes to bigotry.

Kari

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