Avoiding the essence of shared nationhood and persistent poverty

JUBILEE:

A time or season for rejoicing.

A special anniversary.

Fifty years of independent association on a piece of land on the vast earth, constituted by borders in the name of Guyana. Diverse as its people-the Amerindian Peoples, the African decent, the East Indian decent and all those who were born into the Mixed Races. Inheriting the rich cultures and civilizations of the Native Peoples of the Land of Many Waters, China, Portugal, Africa and India.

Born on a fertile land that nourished our bodies, streams that quenched our thirst and villagers to watch us grow. Upright and neighbourly. A paradise under the viscous tropical sun. Lush green, trees great and small. Shelter for us, whether one lives in the hinterlands or on the coast in wooden houses.

A gift from God for all of His creations.

And for Guyana, He proclaimed so in the Psalms, “For every animal in the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know every bird in the mountains, and the creature of the field are mine.”  

What a privileged people we are - a nation of six races of people.

Once upon a time we lived in harmony.

But, just as confusion came upon the ancient people of Babel, so too, did we. The rhetoric of prejudices energized hatred. And we became confused. Generations gone to the grave confused.

The cemetery, bones of limbs and empty eyes sockets of skulls is what remained of all people, good and bad.

So many wasted opportunity.

Haggai 2:8, God revealed, “The silver is mine and the gold is mine.” 

As in all of creation, the gold and silver are from God, and given to man for good use, for a useful purpose.

We have so much.

So why are we beset with turmoil and confusion.

The answer lies with each citizen of Guyana, whether they live overseas or at home.

There is a story, “A banquet table laden with foods of all sorts. Everything appealing to the senses. Seated at the table are six races of people. Looking at each other. The host insisted that only the cutleries are to be used. No fingers used for eating.  But the cutleries were too long in length and could not bring the food to the person’s month. They had the freedom of choice how to use the cutleries. They knew the only way to be fed was to feed each other. Obstinate, no one look the initiative. They became more and more starved as the hours went by.”

That is my country. We have bountiful, but we need each other for the harvest.

Fifty years of denying yourself personal prosperity.

On this moment of Jubilee, let the momentous occasion be the season when we bury our differences in its celebration.

I will be frank. There are some mode of celebration which are dislikable to some of our citizens. A gala is a fabulous event. But not all will find the desire for it.

It is important that each ethnic group identify their participation. They must celebrate in their own way. The land has been good to us, it has given us many sons and daughters. It was marked for us the very moment a European nation laid claim to it in the name of their King and Queen. Bearing in mind, it was taken from the Native Peoples and we honour them with greatest respect.     

The generations now gone, had a longing for anthem, flag and country. So deep were their consciousness that they aligned with cause and purpose.  The efforts of Marcus Garvey filled the void, he rallied the Negro under the anthem and flag of Ethiopia. Then, there was the League of Coloured People leading the discussions for a self-governing colony of British Guiana. And when East Indian Indentured Servants moved away from plantation life, they sought a path and service in the British Guiana East Indian Association.     

We were a people of harmonious relationships in towns and villages. Yes, there some ethnic tensions.

The politic of C.B, Jagan and L.F.S. Burnham consumed us as a meteor would scorch the earth. Nothing remained. Distrust emerged out of Pandora’s chest. We lost all desires for a country over the last sixty six years. Gone are the village mentors, the mentors in our towns. And gone are the mentors of the nation. Guyana has lost so many opportunities for the good life.

Our history has been one of communities within the borders of Guyana, be it ethnic or religious. One Nation One People One Destiny, are only words-empty and without substance. This current government can move beyond this stalemate by doing right by the country. Do the right things. The citizens will take notice.  And they themselves will measure the integration.

For too long we have been divided on ethnicity. The government needs to build the country in anticipation of the day when ethnicity does not impose itself in the national dialogue. 

Be as Atta Turk, the man of modern Turkey.

We have in our history valiant men. Slaves they may have been but full in the Spirit of God. Endow with immense wisdom.

Our leaders must seek paths of erecting pillars to uplift the nation.

Quamina, a peaceful soul, gave us a start. His wisdom should be an inspiration to every President in charting the destiny of a country so blessed in natural wealth.

Progress of nations has been an inspiration for Guyanese. It may have been a sense of pride for the people of the era. They knew the importance of the event. I witnessed the celebration of India’s Independence at Pln. Albion. Too young to realize the significance other than the button pinned to my shirt by a reveller, the emblem of the flag of India. I can only guess of their sense of joy. Perhaps, motivated by an emanated voice from BBC radio.  Pandit Nehru, “……..At the stroke of the midnight hour, when the world sleeps, India will awake to life and freedom. A moment comes but rarely in history. ....……..”

It was the dawn of a new world dispensation. Throughout Africa and other places around the globe, where Empires stripped natives of their lands, wealth and dignity. Aspiring men and women, perhaps were listening- a pledge. With hope of one day to follow the path of political independence.

Gold Coast would be next-Kwame Nhkrumah’s Ghana. I witnessed that celebration too. At the Rosignol Society Hall. The honouring speeches of liberation. Emancipation was freedom from slavery, but Ghana’s Independence was the removal of shackles from African ancestry wherever they were on the planet.

In Nehru’s speech, he could have well been speaking about future events in British Guiana when he said, “All of us, to whatever religion we may belong are equally the children of India, with equal rights, privileges and obligations. We cannot encourage communialism or narrowmindedness, for no nation can be great whose people are narrow in thoughts or in action. “

Replacing the word India with Guyana and religion with race, it would be, “All of us, to whatever race we may belong are equally the children of Guyana, with equal rights, privileges and obligations. We cannot encourage communialism or narrowmindedness, for no nation can be great whose people are narrow in thoughts or in action. “

That is what holds us back from having a good life in the land of plenty. Plain and simple “Narrowmindedness”. In Guyana, we are abound with such people. In high places. The atrocities of Rwanda were edged on by the educated, who knew the power of words. Words of narrow minds perpetrated the carnage. Going back in time- Linden, Guyana comes to mind.  The Wismar riots and the Sun Chapman incident. Indelible events in the minds of both East Indian and African ancestry. While the era of the Disturbances are etched in minds of individuals, the Wismar Riots and the blow-up of the Sun Chapman are in the chronicles of Guyana.

Isaiah 44:24.

This is what the Lord says - your Redeemer, who formed you in the belly of the womb. I am the Lord, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, who foils the signs of false prophets and makes fools of diviners, who overthrows the learning of the wise and turns it into nonsense, who carries out the words of his servants and fulfills the predictions of his messengers, ………..

Certainly, not the politicians, for they were and are like vipers. Full of poison. They side with the principality of darkness.

This country has had a great many messengers.  For over fifty years, that is five decades and the many souls in the great beyond. They prayed for this country. They sought the favour of God.  And the Almighty does fulfil them as He did in 2 Kings 20. He answers requests in His own timing.

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” A quote from the Presidential Candidate to the people of Linden.

Reflections on the tragedies of the Wismar Riots. For in deed the speaker understood the ailment of the nation and ironic he chose Linden to quote Ephesians 6:10. A place of great racial in tolerance towards East Indians.

The quote resonated the notions of a man with higher understanding of the Guyanese dilemma. The condition of the hearts of the citizens.

An elevated man, who is going reach down and take hold of each of the races and pull them up into the “Good Life.”

God had finally turned His face towards Guyana. There is a messenger.

Soon after the May 11, 2015 victory, it was different. The wisdom of Soloman was replaced with Conventional Wisdom and inclusivity was only a fashionable word of the day. The desire to be compassionate towards a preferred race became “the agenda.” A race of people who deemed marginalized was going to be favored. There is nothing bad about that. It is not a crime to feel kinship. President Hoyte told us that Guyana has kith and kin. So we know. It has always been, “dem and us.” For in Guyana, everything eventually becomes a race issue.

The dream soon gave way to pride. And that, is, where and why Ephesians 6:10 should be consulted in its entirety.  “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armour of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”

The elevated man was compromised. Abandonment of a status, inorder to elevate old comrades. Eager to discard the young, Guyana’s future. And the creation of two governing bodies within a single government. It is a disastrous move and will eventually do some very serious relationship among the people of Guyana.

For a while, citizens believed the prayers of fifty years was answered. It was to be a time of healing at the momentous time of our fiftieth year of Independence.

Timely.

I am afraid, for all that had occurred over the past year, it will be as Independence Night of May 26, 1966. Georgetown was bustling.  Flag raising, fireworks in the air and revellers. That night, if and only if,  Forbes would have invited Cheddie in a more significant role at the events. In the fleeting, he did stop by for a quick embrace. Perhaps, we would have had a progressive country in that gesture. Instead, great number of citizens throughout the country went to bed, early. Not caring of the event.  There were no speeches at the Rosignol Society Hall. Once a unified village in the 50’s, we were strained in 1966. My country became independent and I witnessed no pomp. My youthful efforts of telling the “Limeys” to go home, slogan written on every open spaces had materialized on May 26, 1966. They went home and I went to bed that night not knowing the celebrations in Georgetown.

After 50 years, the APNU+AFC will recreate in celebrations on May26, 2016. Today’s abyss is no different than the one in 1966.  It was a missed opportunity when Forbes did not reach out to Cheddie. Will President Granger extend his hand and pull this nation out of the abyss? Will he narrow the great divide? Will he reach out to the Opposition?

It is often said, “Wisdom comes with Age.” It is my personal thoughts, that this President possess the Wisdom of Soloman. We are country like the twelve tribes of Israel. Contentious even more with six different races of people.  It is important on this Jubilee year we bury the 50 years of strife. At the midnight hour we commence our history of the future 50 years. Many of our old will not see those years to follow. Our young people will. It is important that we bequeath to them a good inheritance.

In his governance, where ever there is bondage of hearts and minds, it is his duty to free such souls. The Indians of Guyana needs to be directed on the path that allows them to make the right choices.

Democracy, in its true sense, puts nations building forefront. It is by this principle we chart the course of the three generations to follow us. It is a continual process which instill stability and economic progress.

This President must elevate the Pillars that will sustain the quality of life and tolerance of the Guyanese society.

This President must build a society and country regardless of the racial intolerance that persists.

This President must do all he can to prepare a sound governing country. So that when this nation finally wakes up to peaceful coexistence, they will find all the articles for a modern state to continue to build upon.

It is important that this President showcase moderate Indians in governmental responsibilities. Not necessarily ministers or parliamentarians.

For the past 65 years, Indians have had poor leadership, and too blind to notice it. They are in bondage. And I trust this President will the see the merits in setting them free. They need to have mentors.

We cannot escape racial voting in Guyana. We are strapped to the Peoples National Congress and the Peoples Progressive Party. And the votes fall in line with either the Indo or Afro. It is important for the Indian to be able to make the right choices without fear or intimidation by the officers of the Peoples Progressive Party. And its contributions in all future governments. This business of opposing just for opposing sake is not right for democracy. There must be participation and cooperation. For the races are not willing to forego their racial dominance. Distrust is forever present. 

In the politics of Guyana, Presidents delegate their authority. No matter, how they delegate, they are still the shepherd of the nation. And must acknowledge the divine in every citizen regardless of race and religion.   

God Bless.

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This David Hinds like to write about Africans this and Africans that yet the man clings to his slave master's name.

While he writes this, the PNC satans are busy at work scheming to cleanse the real estate of Indians.  You see, I listen to these "great speeches" since I was a kid, but we can never see the light of day.  While they celebrate this 50, they have plans in the works to ensure 2020 to be the last competitive election.  After that Indians, as a group, will never see the light of day!

We East Indians have to work united for an independent sovereign nation while we still have the numbers. This is the most crucial time for us Indians ever in our existence as a people in Guyana.

Prashad posted:

This David Hinds like to write about Africans this and Africans that yet the man clings to his slave master's name.

What is your wife's name?

You are such a confounded hypocrite that I will raise this until you become sensible.

What name should Hinds have?  A make up make up name like Eusi Kwayana, which isn't African?

Should he select a name from one of the myriad African ethnicities which he no doubt derives from?  Every thing from Congo right up to Senegal?

And should all of those Indians with Muslims names also remove them, given that these names came out of conquest, and in many instances, forced conversion.

Or should people acknowledge the facts of history.

Prashad posted:

We East Indians have to work united for an independent sovereign nation while we still have the numbers. This is the most crucial time for us Indians ever in our existence as a people in Guyana.

Neither your wife, nor your children are East Indians.

Your hypocrisy is annoying!

ba$eman posted:

While he writes this, the PNC satans are busy at work scheming to cleanse the real estate of Indians.  .

Now I would have thought that there was positive in what David Hinds wrote.

You didn't bother to read it, because it is written by a proud black man.

You despise blacks, and are angered that we aren't driven into servitude to Indians!

caribny posted:

Prashad posted:

This David Hinds like to write about Africans this and Africans that yet the man clings to his slave master's name.

What is your wife's name?

You are such a confounded hypocrite that I will raise this until you become sensible.

What name should Hinds have?  A make up make up name like Eusi Kwayana, which isn't African?

Should he select a name from one of the myriad African ethnicities which he no doubt derives from?  Every thing from Congo right up to Senegal?

And should all of those Indians with Muslims names also remove them, given that these names came out of conquest, and in many instances, forced conversion.

Or should people acknowledge the facts of history.

As a boy my Jamaican classroom teacher would laugh at me and mock me for not having an anglo Saxon name but in reality I never disrespect East Indian ancestors by adopting and promoting the names of the people who kept them in horrible working conditions.

There are muslim south asian names.

caribny posted:

ba$eman posted:

While he writes this, the PNC satans are busy at work scheming to cleanse the real estate of Indians.  .

Now I would have thought that there was positive in what David Hinds wrote.

You didn't bother to read it, because it is written by a proud black man.

You despise blacks, and are angered that we aren't driven into servitude to Indians!

I still don't know what's positive for Indians when the PNC rules.  It never was and shows no sign this time around either.

I just met over the weekend with some visiting Guyanese relatives, they stuck it out under the PNC and never left to this day.  They were very negative as to the developments under this PNC regime.  They had a degree of cautious hope, but now they resign to another PNC traditional style rule.  They are not hopeful at all for the future of Guyana as an integrated society.  It's as it always was, 50 years ago!!

Prashad posted:

caribny posted:

Prashad posted:

This David Hinds like to write about Africans this and Africans that yet the man clings to his slave master's name.

What is your wife's name?

You are such a confounded hypocrite that I will raise this until you become sensible.

What name should Hinds have?  A make up make up name like Eusi Kwayana, which isn't African?

Should he select a name from one of the myriad African ethnicities which he no doubt derives from?  Every thing from Congo right up to Senegal?

And should all of those Indians with Muslims names also remove them, given that these names came out of conquest, and in many instances, forced conversion.

Or should people acknowledge the facts of history.

As a boy my Jamaican classroom teacher would laugh at me and mock me for not having an anglo Saxon name but in reality I never disrespect East Indian ancestors by adopting and promoting the names of the people who kept them in horrible working conditions.

There are muslim south asian names.

Your ancestors have Muslim South Asian names?

Some do. I don't know any muslim arab named khan 

Prashad posted:

Some do. I don't know any muslim arab named khan 

Do you condemn them for carrying the names of their conquerors who converted them at the tip of a sword?

You need to tell that to Chief.  His ancestors converted to Muslim to save themselves being decapitated.  Or maybe the males were and he is a product of an ISIS style rape of the surviving female relatives.  But he proud anyway.

Mars I read the history of india. Not all Muslims indians converted by the tip of a sword after the Hindus and their slow moving elephants were defeated. Many of them converted from hinduism to islam because they saw it as a more caring, equal and a religion of unity.

Prashad posted:

Mars I read the history of india. Not all Muslims indians converted by the tip of a sword after the Hindus and their slow moving elephants were defeated. Many of them converted from hinduism to islam because they saw it as a more caring, equal and a religion of unity.

 

Who wrote this history book that you read? Was it Brer Anansi? Or is the book called "One Thousand and One Nights"?

Prashad posted:

Mars I read the history of india. Not all Muslims indians converted by the tip of a sword after the Hindus and their slow moving elephants were defeated. Many of them converted from hinduism to islam because they saw it as a more caring, equal and a religion of unity.

 

Actually, after the Arab Muslims invaded South India and displaced the tribal rulers, some of the lower members of the royal family offered their conversion as a way of receiving an allowance for the management of the lands once theirs and now acquired by their conquerors.

The salt tax, also resulted in alot of conversions as well. Hindus were banned from collecting salt, which had been free for the taking. The Arabs imposed the tax on hindus and muslims alike. Favoring muslims with a discount of 5%.   

The moplahs, that is the children of native indian women and arab men. To travel across the ocean to South India, ships waited on the Monsoon winds. Going and coming. If they missed the winds, they are held up. Most times, they were held up in South India. Atleast for six months. Being a good muslim, they legally took wives. And when they departed, the women were left behind. Indications from the number of moplahs and their influences in the regions of south india, the conclusion would be, the women were concubines disguised as in a fake nika. Proud of their Arabian blood, the moplahs adhered to the muslim customs. No conversion there.

Apart from Akbar the Great, every other muslim ruler felt that allah will bless them for every conversion, either by the sword, by coitus, by boiling in hot oil, by kidnapping or a peaceful adherence of submission.

When I was a lil baby Iman got a lil bit of skin off my..ahem..member,cut off.  I hear say it was too long.

Prashad posted:

Some do. I don't know any muslim arab named khan 

It might shock you to know that not every Muslim was an Arab.  In fact it was invaders from Central Asia who conquered India.

I know you have heard of Genghis Khan.  He certainly wasn't South Asian.

Here is some info

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Times_under_Muslim_Rule

ba$eman posted:

 

I still don't know what's positive for Indians when the PNC rules.  It never was and shows no sign this time around either.

 

Thanks for confirming how biased you are.

1.  You assume that because David Hinds is black that he supports the PNC.  In fact he was one of the first critics of the coalition gov't among those who had supported them.

2. You didn't read what he wrote, because you assume that he endorsed the PNC and its treatment of Indians.

In fact no where in what he wrote was there insinuation that Indians did well under the PNC, or had any reason to like them.

His comments were in fact more damning towards the coalition which positions itself as a multi ethnic group, than he is of the PPP, which proudly calls itself a "coolie people party".

In fact the ethnic tribalism of the PPP, he will argue, is more reflective of the reality of Guyana.  Too bad for the PPP that tribe is dropping, ensuring that, unless the PPP ceases to be tribal, that they will appeal to only 40-45% of those registered to vote.

He says that the motto "One people, one nation, one destiny" is an inaccurate description of Guyana, and he isn't placing the blame for this on any particular group.

cain posted:

When I was a lil baby Iman got a lil bit of skin off my..ahem..member,cut off.  I hear say it was too long.

man said to his woman, "look here woman, if yuh doan start meking some moves instead of lying so still I goan go and get into someting new."

The woman answered him back," Well, well, lookie here. If yuh din have that lil piece cut off, you would ah been getting in deeper right here. No need to get into someting new somewhere else."

caribny posted:

Prashad posted:

Some do. I don't know any muslim arab named khan 

It might shock you to know that not every Muslim was an Arab.  In fact it was invaders from Central Asia who conquered India.

I know you have heard of Genghis Khan.  He certainly wasn't South Asian.

It was the Afghan, Timberlane and the Arabs. The Arabs first came for the spices on the Malabar Coast. That way way before the Afghan incursions.

seignet posted:

caribny posted:

Prashad posted:

Some do. I don't know any muslim arab named khan 

It might shock you to know that not every Muslim was an Arab.  In fact it was invaders from Central Asia who conquered India.

I know you have heard of Genghis Khan.  He certainly wasn't South Asian.

It was the Afghan, Timberlane and the Arabs. The Arabs first came for the spices on the Malabar Coast. That way way before the Afghan incursions.

The Arabs came as traders. The Central Asians as conquerors.

What David Hinds is saying is factual.Nothing has changed since the days of slavery,Massa throw two piece of salt pork and souse through the kitchen window ,order the house slaves to knock two three drum and the negro will be happy for days until the fete is finished.The next day he suddenly wakes up to the realisation that there is no money to feed the children so back to the millstone.He used up all his money apeing the whiteman for what reason heavens know.
The PNC know how to control the working class negroes,though hungry and starving, declare a holiday let them get into a fancy dress parade ,have some black pudding and souse and cassava ball available and they are as happy as a lark .It acts like opium on their brains until they come down from the high and realise that they are still hungry.
Unless the negroes realise that the PNC is not in government to assist in bettering their miserable lives then the country will continue to hear that it is the coolie and chinee that have them in poverty.
The PNC is a georgetown mnegro middle class party that is using the poor negroes to prop them up,to allow them to taste the good life on the backs of the poor negroes.
Unless the negroes realise that they have to help themselves and stop voting race as done since independence then they will only have themselves to blame for their condition.
But as one negro said he prefers to starve and have a negro ruling him.Stupid people.
World over they havent progressed further that they were in the 18 century.
Sorry for the negroes that voted for the PNC with the hope of getting jobs and a better life,This will never happen under the PNC.

george dasilva posted:

.Massa throw two piece of salt pork and souse through the kitchen window ,order the house slaves to knock two three drum and the negro will be happy for days until the fete is finished.T
Unless the negroes realise that they have to help themselves and stop voting race .

Hmmm.  And I thought that it was the PPP which loved to have blacks entertain them like Massa used to do. Spending millions to bring in Jamaican and Trini and Bajan acts to keep the negro entertained.

Apparently it doesn't matter who the "poor negro" votes for.

So wait here you people are saying no one converted because of the good of the religion but because they can get some financial benefit. That is not accurate.

Prashad posted:

So wait here you people are saying no one converted because of the good of the religion but because they can get some financial benefit. That is not accurate.

An "Indian" like you, screaming about Christians, needs to ask yourself why so many Indians converted to their cousin religion.  Is there something wrong with Hinduism?

BTW do you know that Christianity reached India before it reached the UK?

caribny posted:

seignet posted:

caribny posted:

Prashad posted:

Some do. I don't know any muslim arab named khan 

It might shock you to know that not every Muslim was an Arab.  In fact it was invaders from Central Asia who conquered India.

I know you have heard of Genghis Khan.  He certainly wasn't South Asian.

It was the Afghan, Timberlane and the Arabs. The Arabs first came for the spices on the Malabar Coast. That way way before the Afghan incursions.

The Arabs came as traders. The Central Asians as conquerors.

Traders who later took over the Kingdoms of South India. They were conquerors. Have no doubt about it.

ba$eman posted:

You need to tell that to Chief.  His ancestors converted to Muslim to save themselves being decapitated.  Or maybe the males were and he is a product of an ISIS style rape of the surviving female relatives.  But he proud anyway.

That Muslim man you saw in your father bedroom whilst he was at work is still affecting you.

I can understand why African muslims are like Guyanese red ants.