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Elections were manipulated – 3 GECOM Commissioners

Three of the six Commissioners of the Guyana Elections Commissions (GECOM) say they strongly believe, based on factual

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evidence, that the General and Regional Elections 2015 were rigged. In a press statement, the three Commissioners: Mohamood Shaw, Athmaram Mangar and Sase Gunraj; all of whom were nominated by the ruling Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPP/C) stated they have enough reasons to accurately declared that the Elections were far from free and fair. The statement explained in details, the series of irregularly activities within GECOM that led them to believe that Elections were indeed rigged. Starting with a Commissioners meeting on May 13, prior to the announcement of the preliminary results, the Commissioners related that the Chief Elections Officer (CEO) Keith Lowenfield acknowledged that there were significant disturbances with the electoral process. “The Chief Elections Officer…disclosed that it goes against his conscience to disclose the results in his possession,” the statement noted. Some reasons why it is assumed that Lowenfield went against his conscience  is because he mentioned the fact that there were “variances in the data contained in the Statements of Poll within his and those in the possession of the Returning Officers of the respective Electoral Districts; and the number of votes cast as recorded on some of the Statements of Poll in his possession far exceeded the number of electors on the official list of electors for the corresponding division.

Fake Statement of Polls Also, the statement noted that the layout of some of the Statements of Poll that were received by the CEO differed from those

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officially issued by GECOM which led to the realisation that fake Statement of Polls were involved. “This view was shared by several members of the Commission who recalled observing several different Statements of Poll before they reached the Chief Elections Officer. This led to the belief by the Commission that there were fraudulent Statements of Poll which were inserted into the GECOM machinery, and were eventually used in the tabulation of the final results,” it read. Following that revelation, the Commissioners said it was unanimously agreed during the said meeting that the Statements of Poll deemed to be irregular by the Lowenfield would not be used in the release of the preliminary results by him.

Preliminary Results Moving along to the Press Conference at 9pm, Lowenfield, against his conscience, announced that results of 1809 polling stations (excluding results from 490 polling stations). “This led us to the belief that there were at least 490 Statements of Poll affected by the irregularities disclosed by the Chief Elections Officer,” the Commissioners concluded. Then on May 14, Lowendfield made another public announcement of the irregularities discovered on the previous day. “Notwithstanding the public disclosures by the Chief Elections Officer, he proceeded to announce the preliminary results of all 2299 polling stations across the country,” the statement noted.

22 ballot boxes On May 15, a delegation from the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) met with the Commission to discuss the said irregularities and provided a sample of 22 Statements of Poll and requested that the corresponding ballot boxes be opened to verify the said results. The statement said the Chairman, Dr Steve Surujbally, gave an undertaking to open the said 22 ballot boxes be opened to verify the said results. This position was later recanted at a meeting of the Commission that continued immediately after the departure of the delegation aforesaid.

Following this, the three Commissioners said they made requests of the CEO, pursuant to the disclosures aforesaid, for the information on several concerns, including: the steps taken to ascertain the authenticity of and the information contained in all the Statements of Poll within his possession; the total number of Statements of Poll affected by the irregularities; steps taken to correct the discrepancies as aforesaid; and the extent to which the discrepancies affected the overall results of the said elections. On May 16, the statement noted that the CEO “refused and/or neglected to provide to the Commission, the requested information.” It added, “At that meeting, we were presented with the official declarations of the Returning Officers of each of the 10 Electoral Districts of Guyana, as well as, 2 spreadsheets, both under the hand of Mr. Keith Lowenfield, Chief Elections Officer, containing the results of the Regional and General Elections. The results were not presented in a manual form, as is also required by law. “Upon our request, a copy of the report of the Information Technology Department, which was tasked with encoding and tabulating data contained in Statements of Poll from all of the Electoral Divisions across Guyana, was provided. The report from the Information Technology Department differed significantly from the spreadsheets presented by the Chief Elections Officer, and the Chairman withdrew the said report. “In light of the glaring inconsistencies and in the absence of satisfactory explanations of same, we were left no option but to vote against the declaration and publication of the said results by the Commission. The other 3 (three) members of the Commission, along with the Chairman, then voted in favour of the said declaration and publication of the said results.” Then on May 20, one of the Commissioners- Sase R. Gunraj wrote, in his capacity as a Commissioner, to Lowenfield, in his capacity as CEO, requesting the information on results from each Electoral District, disaggregated by Polling Division, as compiled by the Chief Elections Officer; results from each Electoral District, disaggregated by Polling Division, as compiled by the Returning Officer of each Electoral District; report from the Information Technology Department, disaggregated by Polling Station; photocopies and/or electronic copies of Statements of Poll of each Polling Station, as submitted to the Chief Elections Officer;  and photocopies and/or electronic copies of Statements of Poll of each Polling Station, as submitted to the Returning Officer of each Electoral District. On May 21, the Commissioner received a response from Lowenfield who said “that he requires the consent of the Commission to release the requested information.” However, the statement explained that “information similar to which was requested was provided to the Commission, as a matter of course, after every past election.” In conclusion, the three concerned Commissioners said they find it amiss that the Chairman did not convene a meeting since, especially in light of the many outstanding issues regarding the conduct and outcome of the General and Regional Elections 2015.

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Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Base, we should not blame the APNU/AFC (I assume that you refer to them as the PNC) They were given the Election by those who were supposed to see that all conduct were over board.......Did they?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Perhaps. But not the APNU+AFC regime.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Base, we should not blame the APNU/AFC (I assume that you refer to them as the PNC) They were given the Election by those who were supposed to see that all conduct were over board.......Did they?

Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

I think it was the PPP and it backfired. Too late now.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

I think it was the PPP and it backfired. Too late now.

PPP and their anti-US mantra most likely triggered this CIA/US President into action to remove the PPP.  PPP did it again, sell their constituency out for ideological reasons.

 

However, then let's accept, Guyana once again has an "installed" rather than elected regime.  I guess even Carter has his "price".

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Baseboy do not get carried away.

These are the 3 PPP Commissioners

who Jagdeo will fire

because the failed to do what was expected of them...

 

Let see if these Guys are credible.

In 2006 these same 3

conspired with the then

Chief Elections Officer (CEO) Mr Gocool  Budhoo

to rig the elections

by thiefing a Seat from AFC

and giving it to the PPP 

so Sam Hinds can sit in Parliament.

These 3 Cu-nu-mu-nu

 sit quietly without saying a word.

 

In 2011 these same 3 PPP Cu-nu-mu-nu

 conspired with the same

PPP Chief Elections Officer (CEO) Mr Gocool Budhoo 

to rig the elections by thiefing

another Seat again from AFC and

giving it to the PPP so Ramotar

could have a Majority  Govt in Parliament.

The PNC Commissioner on the Commission

caught Budhoo redhanded and

he quickly had to reverse and correct his Rigging.... 

These 3 Cu-nu-mu-nu again kept Quiet.

IN 2011 IT WAS THE PNC

WHO DISCOVER & EXPOSE THE RIGGING.

 

This led to the firing

and removal of Gocool Budhoo

and the appointment of Mr Lowenfield.

 

Now 2015

Jagdeo Trying to Fire

all three Cu-nu-mu-nu.....

 

So they Jump up and Shouting

Rigged Election ....

after

President Carter , US Govt,

and all the Independent Overseas

Election observers

already declare....

 they certify  the 2015 Elections

free, fair and Transparent....

AND PPP LOST

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

There is no suggestion that the polls were rigged against the PPP. The anomalies favoured the PPP.

God's decisions does confuse the defeated. Every Guyanese knows dem East Indians in the PPP din or doan know about good governance. We saw dem in action.

 

Bye Bye Thief men and women.

S
Originally Posted by Nehru:

THE PUPPET PNC GOVT WAS INSTALLED BY THE ABC COUNTRIES!!!  END OF STORY!!   DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER IN GUYANA.

 

 

GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA!!!!!!!!!

PPP should start mo fiah slow fiah. It can safely say that PNC/APNU-AFC never won an election in Guyana. But all the PPP haters condone this rigging.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Too little too late.  All of this should have been offered up as evidence within the counting process.

 

The PPP needs to sit down and fix themselves.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

What if the PPP rigged? Would you have the same sentiments?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Base, we should not blame the APNU/AFC (I assume that you refer to them as the PNC) They were given the Election by those who were supposed to see that all conduct were over board.......Did they?

Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

Hoyte was forced to have free and fair elections and lost, and in fact the fight between him and Hammie severely harmed the PNC.

 

The world is tired of the PPP,  as indeed are most Guyanese.  They won some votes by engaging in a nasty campaign of ethnic hatred and panic.  So more Indos came out to vote PPP and more Africans and mixed came out to vote AGAINST the PPP.

 

Had the PPP fought a cleaner campaign they might have won, but they didn't so they lost.

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

May 24 2015

Brilliant!  Says it all. All the crap about election rigging. Reform or DIE!!!

Let them sulk.   By 2020 the PPP will be but a distant memory.  Where is the groundswell of support in Guyana for them?  All of the soup lickers have already fled.  So they have scared some unemployed ex PPP ministers back to their side, as they scamper to be included on the PPP list of MPs.  No one is impressed.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:

The PPP/C on target, but they are too late to lament now. Guess this Election was too close to call.

But harms the credibility of the PNC as a legitimate regime.  Guyana headed for trouble.

Base, we should not blame the APNU/AFC (I assume that you refer to them as the PNC) They were given the Election by those who were supposed to see that all conduct were over board.......Did they?

Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

Hoyte was forced to have free and fair elections and lost, and in fact the fight between him and Hammie severely harmed the PNC.

 

The world is tired of the PPP,  as indeed are most Guyanese.  They won some votes by engaging in a nasty campaign of ethnic hatred and panic.  So more Indos came out to vote PPP and more Africans and mixed came out to vote AGAINST the PPP.

 

Had the PPP fought a cleaner campaign they might have won, but they didn't so they lost.

The PPP did not lose the elction; they were robbed. This new government should not be labeled as an elected body.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

THE PUPPET PNC GOVT WAS INSTALLED BY THE ABC COUNTRIES!!!  END OF STORY!!   DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER IN GUYANA.

 

 

GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA!!!!!!!!!

PPP should start mo fiah slow fiah. It can safely say that PNC/APNU-AFC never won an election in Guyana. But all the PPP haters condone this rigging.

How about the Apnu-Afc/ Ramjattan use his position like Rohee and give them a dose of them own rubber bullet medicine....

sachin_05
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

The PPP did not lose the elction; they were robbed. This new government should not be labeled as an elected body.

Let me correct you. The PPP rigged the election and still lost. That's why they are so surprised and upset. They planned this ages ago by having a whole heap of polling stations in far flung places. The idea was to cause confusion but it still didn't work because a lot more people voted APNU or AFC than the PPP had accounted for.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

THE PUPPET PNC GOVT WAS INSTALLED BY THE ABC COUNTRIES!!!  END OF STORY!!   DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER IN GUYANA.

 

 

GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA!!!!!!!!!

PPP should start mo fiah slow fiah. It can safely say that PNC/APNU-AFC never won an election in Guyana. But all the PPP haters condone this rigging.

bai like you want your family to loot 

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

The PPP did not lose the elction; they were robbed. This new government should not be labeled as an elected body.

Let me correct you. The PPP rigged the election and still lost. That's why they are so surprised and upset. They planned this ages ago by having a whole heap of polling stations in far flung places. The idea was to cause confusion but it still didn't work because a lot more people voted APNU or AFC than the PPP had accounted for.

 

R22 ballot boxes On May 15, a delegation from the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) met with the Commission to discuss the said irregularities and provided a sample of 22 Statements of Poll and requested that the corresponding ballot boxes be opened to verify the said results. The statement said the Chairman, Dr Steve Surujbally, gave an undertaking to open the said 22 ballot boxes be opened to verify the said results. This position was later recanted at a meeting of the Commission that continued immediately after the departure of the delegation aforesaid.

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

THE PUPPET PNC GOVT WAS INSTALLED BY THE ABC COUNTRIES!!!  END OF STORY!!   DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER IN GUYANA.

 

 

GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA!!!!!!!!!

PPP should start mo fiah slow fiah. It can safely say that PNC/APNU-AFC never won an election in Guyana. But all the PPP haters condone this rigging.

bai like you want your family to loot 

They have been doing that for 23 years!

Mr.T
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

The PPP did not lose the elction; they were robbed. This new government should not be labeled as an elected body.

Let me correct you. The PPP rigged the election and still lost. That's why they are so surprised and upset. They planned this ages ago by having a whole heap of polling stations in far flung places. The idea was to cause confusion but it still didn't work because a lot more people voted APNU or AFC than the PPP had accounted for.

 

R22 ballot boxes On May 15, a delegation from the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) met with the Commission to discuss the said irregularities and provided a sample of 22 Statements of Poll and requested that the corresponding ballot boxes be opened to verify the said results. The statement said the Chairman, Dr Steve Surujbally, gave an undertaking to open the said 22 ballot boxes be opened to verify the said results. This position was later recanted at a meeting of the Commission that continued immediately after the departure of the delegation aforesaid.

gecom cannot release nothing they have confidential clause 

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

THE PUPPET PNC GOVT WAS INSTALLED BY THE ABC COUNTRIES!!!  END OF STORY!!   DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER IN GUYANA.

 

 

GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA!!!!!!!!!

PPP should start mo fiah slow fiah. It can safely say that PNC/APNU-AFC never won an election in Guyana. But all the PPP haters condone this rigging.

bai like you want your family to loot 

They have been doing that for 23 years!

Ignorance is bliss for the two of you.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

THE PUPPET PNC GOVT WAS INSTALLED BY THE ABC COUNTRIES!!!  END OF STORY!!   DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER IN GUYANA.

 

 

GUYANA GONE FUH CHANNA!!!!!!!!!

PPP should start mo fiah slow fiah. It can safely say that PNC/APNU-AFC never won an election in Guyana. But all the PPP haters condone this rigging.

bai like you want your family to loot 

They have been doing that for 23 years!

Ignorance is bliss for the two of you.

you have a good day too

FM

If they can rig this one without letting the PPP knows what hit them, Imagine what they will do in 2020 when they have control of the machinery.  This was what the PNC did when they have voting by the post.

Caribj is right the PPP will never win an election again.

R
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

An overthrow of a government under the pretext of an election.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

An overthrow of a government under the pretext of an election.

PPP/C was expecting 54%.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

An overthrow of a government under the pretext of an election.

PPP/C was expecting 54%.

The election rigging was just brilliant.   Kudos to the PNC.  Now they are going to use two ex PPP idiots to kick those coolie asses who opposed them.   

R

The election was rigged by the PPP but they still lost. They prorogued parliament, held the election on an exam day, promised several GECOM people untold wealth, placed polling station is far flung places where they could be stuffed with false ballot paper, and they still lost.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

An overthrow of a government under the pretext of an election.

The PPP needs to revamp and plan next steps.

FM
Originally Posted by Observer:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Who you think orchestrated?  CIA?  Is it an "overthrow?"  Clearly, nothing here was accidental!  Do you agree?

An overthrow of a government under the pretext of an election.

The PPP needs to revamp and plan next steps.

Mo fiah slow fiah?

Mr.T
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
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The PPP did not lose the elction; they were robbed. This new government should not be labeled as an elected body.

So show us the proof.  The fact that you demand a recount just shows that you just cannot believe the extent to which black people showed out to DUMP you lot.

 

For 13 years I have warned the PPP that their racism towards blacks will catch up to them.  This year they waged the most racist campaign ever.  So why holla and scream when even crippled 100 y/o blacks showed up  vote, literally having to be carried in the arms of their relatives? 

 

For many of them this was like South Africa in 1994 when they were able to rid themselves of a racist cabal.  As many said "finally the end of a slow holocaust", and "now I can feel as if I am a Guyanese again".  The black woman who fled PPP racism to live in Antigua where she said "she likes Antigua because it feels good to be black here" can finally return to Guyana, if that is what she wants.

FM
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i watch with increasing fascination the spectacle of a now 'neo-communist' PPP and their ignar, fellow traveling flock cussing the United States of America for allegedly aborting/stealing their election 'victory'

FM

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