Of course, the FBI has to cover themselves.  They were the ones who set him free to buy guns legally.  I wonder if the families of the 50 slain and 53 injured share the same sentiments.

This murderer was aligning himself to groups who are fighting each other.

This guy certainly had mental illness. 

This fool just made Trump President.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Of course, the FBI has to cover themselves.  They were the ones who set him free to buy guns legally.  I wonder if the families of the 50 slain and 53 injured share the same sentiments.

Where are they covering themselves? They work within the law. Maybe they should keep the date of contacts with people on a database that others can access. I do now know how it work but one has to follow the law.

Maybe some improvement can be with respect to guns and those who were under investigation for suspicious terrorist leanings. This fellow should not have gotten access to these weapons.

Prashad posted:

This fool just made Trump President.

It will mobilize his base but not switch progressives, liberals, independents, LGBT or women,  Hispanic and college educated to his side. He will still lose. He need some 65 percent of white people and to poach 20 percent of Blacks and Hispanics. The White ceiling is around 60 percent, He will get about 10 percent Hispanics and about 4 percent blacks.

This is another failure of intelligence to question the killer and let him go to kill 50 people there must be some people at the FBI, CIA and DIA who are wondering if their jobs are now on the line.

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

I'm waiting for a statement from Rubio. Interesting to know what he has to say about this attack on Latino Gay people. There is a Guyanese Gay Club called Charlie's on Lefferts Blvd. It's just a few a buildings away from Kaieteur.  This club is owned and run by a Guyanese Muslim Gay. I'm sure they are paying close attention to what happened in Orlando.

It was a gay club. How many of us straight men know where the gay clubs are in the major cities that we stay in. Further more how many of us straight men on Gn&I know at what precise time and day the gay clubs are packed with gays. The man had to have been planning this attack for months and had to have done pre-attack observations of the club. This sounds to me that he knew what he was doing.

Prashad posted:

It was a gay club. How many of us straight men know where the gay clubs are in the major cities that we stay in. Further more how many of us straight men on Gn&I know at what precise time and day the gay clubs are packed with gays. The man had to have been planning this attack for months and had to have done pre-attack observations of the club.

Suppose this Omar chap went out with some Latin Gay Men thinking they were beautiful Latino women

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Is like asking how can a mother kill her children...sometimes people are crazy

Riff do you know at what time the gay clubs in your city are packed with people

 It is not like a crazy mother grabbing her child and killing him or her.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Bibi, you seem to have a lot of knowledge on this incident and have answers to prevent it. I'm all ears.

It looks like this man had gay feelings so he hated himself and other gays because the behaviour was condemned by Islam. Maybe it was a classic J Edgar hoover syndrome hiding behind radical Islam. He may have went to these clubs that is wHy he knew when the club is packed with people.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Bibi, you are on the wrong side of this. His ex-wife, whom he physically abused, described him as bipolar.

Hmmmm, bipolar, now who does that remind me of here.......

Kari posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Bibi, you are on the wrong side of this. His ex-wife, whom he physically abused, described him as bipolar.

Hmmmm, bipolar, now who does that remind me of here.......

And when Bibi reads this and kick your ass tomorrow you will run like a lil wuss and complain to admin. 

alena06 posted:

Kari posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Bibi, you are on the wrong side of this. His ex-wife, whom he physically abused, described him as bipolar.

Hmmmm, bipolar, now who does that remind me of here.......

And when Bibi reads this and kick your ass tomorrow you will run like a lil wuss and complain to admin. 

Is you who think Bibi is bipolar. I read it as Kari could mean quite a few here.

Oi Bibi I heard something from somebody, someting about bein bipolar, is wuh goin on?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Of course, the FBI has to cover themselves.  They were the ones who set him free to buy guns legally.  I wonder if the families of the 50 slain and 53 injured share the same sentiments.

His purchase of guns isn't the fault of the FBI. Its the fault of the NRA, and all who grovel to them.

alena06 posted:

Kari posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Can a mentally ill person carry out a mass murder of this magnitude with such precision?  He even called 911 during the massacre to pledge allegiance to ISIS.  He purchased the rifle days before the event which suggests pre-meditation and purpose.  This was very careful planning and execution which are not characteristics of a mentally ill person.

I am tempted to say that even though he acted alone in the club, he may have had assistance leading up to the killing.

Bibi, you are on the wrong side of this. His ex-wife, whom he physically abused, described him as bipolar.

Hmmmm, bipolar, now who does that remind me of here.......

And when Bibi reads this and kick your ass tomorrow you will run like a lil wuss and complain to admin. 

"kick your ass".........

alena06 I don't complain to tjhe Admins. I challenge them to raise the level of discourse in this forum and to eradicate obvious bigotry and racism. Seems like you have a problem with that call.

The FBI either drop the ball or need to revised their "potential terrorist" policy.

What is clear - The 49 Families can  and should sue the FBI for Gross Negligence.

As per Hillary, "how can you be on a No Fly List and yet be able to buy a gun legally"