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GEORGETOWN, Guyana (CMC) – The Guyana government Wednesday  announced that it had granted the Jamaica-based airline, Fly Jamaica Airways,  the green light to operate two routes out of the Cheddi Jagan International  Airport.

Government spokesman Dr Roger Luncheon told a news conference that  Cabinet gave the approval on Tuesday and that the airline would service the  Guyana — New York route and the Georgetown —Toronto routes.

 

 

Luncheon said the approval was granted after standard evaluative  procedures were completed by the Guyana Civil Aviation Authority (GCCA) and the  recommendation to Cabinet by Transport Minister Robeson Benn.

"The application to operate was with us for some time, as the due  process was being discharged by GCAA…a bond of forty million was the sum  required and which Fly Jamaica, I would posited as one of the requirement for  licensing in Guyana," Luncheon said.

 

Fly Jamaica Airways is a partnership between Guyanese-born chief  executive officer, Captain Paul Ronald Reece, and Jamaican shareholders,  including chief operating officer, Captain Lloyd Tai and the manager of  In-Flight Services, Christine Steele.

The Company was incorporated in Jamaica on September 7, 2011 and  started with a Boeing 757 aircraft.

 

“We faced a rigorous start-up process, including meeting national  and international requirements. Through the stewardship of our experienced  management and dedication of our amazing employees, we proved to aviation  regulators that we have what it takes to be a world-class airline.”

Fly Jamaica Airways has also satisfied rigorous requirements for  the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Department of Transportation  (DOT), and Transportation and Security Administration (TSA), in order to operate  as a commercial US-registered carrier.

 

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Originally Posted by God:

Finally!

 

Look how long this black man had to wait, meanwhile PPP tiefman Sonny Ramdeo was given permission overnight to land his EZ Jet, 

The Guyana Government has already given a Blacks permission to run an airline route to Guyana, who do you thing is the Commercial Director at Caribbean Airlines?

ceo

FM
Originally Posted by Prince:

Your mouth will put in places where your foot can't get you out. Guyana proverbs for people who hollering thief at any given opportunity.

HEHEHE Betta watch out before he FREAK you out.

Nehru
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by God:

Finally!

 

Look how long this black man had to wait, meanwhile PPP tiefman Sonny Ramdeo was given permission overnight to land his EZ Jet, 

The Guyana Government has already given a Blacks permission to run an airline route to Guyana, who do you thing is the Commercial Director at Caribbean Airlines?

ceo

CA/BWIA has been in Guyana longer than the PPP has been in power. They had already established themselves in Guyana by the time the PPP showed up on the block.

 

I'm speaking about start up airlines like some of those fly by night carriers such as Universal and EZ Jet who were granted permission by the PPP overnight.

Mars
Last edited by Mars
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by God:

Finally!

 

Look how long this black man had to wait, meanwhile PPP tiefman Sonny Ramdeo was given permission overnight to land his EZ Jet, 

The Guyana Government has already given a Blacks permission to run an airline route to Guyana, who do you thing is the Commercial Director at Caribbean Airlines?

ceo


More ignorance from the man who doesn't know that 10% of 43% is 4.3%.  Now if you were to check the ethnicity of the Minister responsible for CAL, INDIAN, the recently fired Chairman, INDIAN.  Most of the recently fired board.  INDIANS.

 

I will also leave you to determine whether he is a black man or a red man.  T&T is very color conscious despite Chief's screams that it is some racial paradise.

 

So what makes CAL a black airline?

 

In any case CAL received grandfathered route rights into GEO from BWIA which began service into Guyana around 1940.   BWIA is the longest serving airline, and flew there even in the Burnham days when it was virtually serving GEO for free as it was not allowed to remit earnings generated in Guyana back to its head office.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:


More ignorance from the man who doesn't know that 10% of 43% is 4.3%.  Now if you were to check the ethnicity of the Minister responsible for CAL, INDIAN, the recently fired Chairman, INDIAN.  Most of the recently fired board.  INDIANS.

 

I will also leave you to determine whether he is a black man or a red man.  T&T is very color conscious despite Chief's screams that it is some racial paradise.

 

So what makes CAL a black airline?

 

In any case CAL received grandfathered route rights into GEO from BWIA which began service into Guyana around 1940.   BWIA is the longest serving airline, and flew there even in the Burnham days when it was virtually serving GEO for free as it was not allowed to remit earnings generated in Guyana back to its head office.

There is no Minister in charge of CAL, why do you like to spread lies? It is the tax payers of Trinidad who own CAL, the man running CAL is Corbie

 

Caribbean Airlines logo-600x270.png
IATA BWICAO BWACallsign CARIBBEAN AIRLINES
Founded31 December 2006 (predecessor in 1939)
Commenced operations1 January 2007
Hubs
Focus citiesJohn F. Kennedy International Airport
Frequent-flyer programCaribbean Miles [1]
Airport loungeClub Caribbean [2]
Fleet size22
Destinations18
Company sloganThe Warmth of the Islands (Trinidad and Tobago) One Vision,One Caribbean,One Airline (Jamaica) [3]
HeadquartersTunapuna-Piarco, Trinidad and Tobago
Key people(CEO) Mr. Robert Corbie (Ag.)
Websitewww.Caribbean-Airlines.com
FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:


More ignorance from the man who doesn't know that 10% of 43% is 4.3%.  Now if you were to check the ethnicity of the Minister responsible for CAL, INDIAN, the recently fired Chairman, INDIAN.  Most of the recently fired board.  INDIANS.

 

I will also leave you to determine whether he is a black man or a red man.  T&T is very color conscious despite Chief's screams that it is some racial paradise.

 

So what makes CAL a black airline?

 

In any case CAL received grandfathered route rights into GEO from BWIA which began service into Guyana around 1940.   BWIA is the longest serving airline, and flew there even in the Burnham days when it was virtually serving GEO for free as it was not allowed to remit earnings generated in Guyana back to its head office.

There is no Minister in charge of CAL, why do you like to spread lies? It is the tax payers of Trinidad who own CAL, the man running CAL is Corbie

 

Caribbean Airlines logo-600x270.png
IATA BWICAO BWACallsign CARIBBEAN AIRLINES
Founded31 December 2006 (predecessor in 1939)
Commenced operations1 January 2007
Hubs
Focus citiesJohn F. Kennedy International Airport
Frequent-flyer programCaribbean Miles [1]
Airport loungeClub Caribbean [2]
Fleet size22
Destinations18
Company sloganThe Warmth of the Islands (Trinidad and Tobago) One Vision,One Caribbean,One Airline (Jamaica) [3]
HeadquartersTunapuna-Piarco, Trinidad and Tobago
Key people(CEO) Mr. Robert Corbie (Ag.)
Websitewww.Caribbean-Airlines.com


DAily you are determined to make yourself look stupid.

 

1.  CAL is owned by the govt of T&T who holds 84% of the shares, the rest owned by the govt of Jamaica.

 

2.  As such there is a minister assigned to oversee CAL.  The current minister with that responsibility is Larry Howai, the Minister of Finance.

 

Quite writing nonsense before you do your research,  that is if you even know how to do this.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

DAily you are determined to make yourself look stupid.

 

1.  CAL is owned by the govt of T&T who holds 84% of the shares, the rest owned by the govt of Jamaica.

 

2.  As such there is a minister assigned to oversee CAL.  The current minister with that responsibility is Larry Howai, the Minister of Finance.

 

Quite writing nonsense before you do your research,  that is if you even know how to do this.

Howai's power is over the board and no further, he has no say in day to day operations or otherwise. He can only appoint or remove members from the board. The owners are the people of t&t and minority ownership by the Jamaicans. 

 

Regardless, Blacks are in all positions of power and ownership in Cal, it is not an Indian company as you suggest. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

 

Regardless, Blacks are in all positions of power and ownership in Cal, it is not an Indian company as you suggest. 

Still trying to make yourself look stupid and doing a bang up job of this.

 

Blacks are only 38% of T&Ts population and the existing govt won most of its votes from Indians, the bulk of blacks supporting the PNM.  Were you to look at CALs management structure you will see that it is hardly majority black, and indeed most might even be mixed or Indians.

 

So how can CAL be black owned?  Maybe Fly Jamaica is (don't know who the Jamaican owners are) but definitely not CAL.


The Board of Governors is supposed to run a corporation and to protect the interests of the shareholders. And that includes dismissing any employees, including top managers who are deemed to be incompetent, or uninterested in working with them to achieve those goals.

 

Indeed the majority Indian board appointed by a prior Indian minister and chaired by an Indian, failed to do so, and so were dismissed by this Indian minister.

 

Corporate boards also set policy and see to it that management adheres to it.

 

So continue to think that the Board doesn't have power over the management.  Also continue to think that the Minister cannot get all the board fired.  If he can fire the Board he can definitely get rid of managers.

 

Now continue to show how stupid you are.  I am roaring in laughter now.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Still trying to make yourself look stupid and doing a bang up job of this.

 

Blacks are only 38% of T&Ts population and the existing govt won most of its votes from Indians, the bulk of blacks supporting the PNM.  Were you to look at CALs management structure you will see that it is hardly majority black, and indeed most might even be mixed or Indians.

 

So how can CAL be black owned?  Maybe Fly Jamaica is (don't know who the Jamaican owners are) but definitely not CAL.


The Board of Governors is supposed to run a corporation and to protect the interests of the shareholders. And that includes dismissing any employees, including top managers who are deemed to be incompetent, or uninterested in working with them to achieve those goals.

 

Indeed the majority Indian board appointed by a prior Indian minister and chaired by an Indian, failed to do so, and so were dismissed by this Indian minister.

 

Corporate boards also set policy and see to it that management adheres to it.

 

So continue to think that the Board doesn't have power over the management.  Also continue to think that the Minister cannot get all the board fired.  If he can fire the Board he can definitely get rid of managers.

 

Now continue to show how stupid you are.  I am roaring in laughter now.

So when Manning was in govt, Cal was not flying Guyana? And who was the minister of finance then, a black man. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

So when Manning was in govt, Cal was not flying Guyana? And who was the minister of finance then, a black man. 

OK I am sorry to make you look like an idiot again.

 

British West Indian Airways was established in 1940 BY A WHITE MAN.  It began service to the then British Guiana.  CAL inherited all the route rights of BWee.

 

Do you know that BWee only hired its first black cabin attendant in 1956, when she became the first black cabin attendant to arrive in a US airport? Funny for a "black" airline.  Yes 15 years after flying.  Indeed it took the black power movement of the late 60s in Tdad before the majority of cabin attendants ceased being white or near white.

 

Indeed even today when I look at CALs promotional materials it does look like the vast majority of their employees are either mixed or Indian, with blacks being a distinct minority.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

 

British West Indian Airways was established in 1940 BY A WHITE MAN.  It began service to the then British Guiana.  CAL inherited all the route rights of BWee.

 

Do you know that BWee only hired its first black cabin attendant in 1956, when she became the first black cabin attendant to arrive in a US airport? Funny for a "black" airline.  Yes 15 years after flying.  Indeed it took the black power movement of the late 60s in Tdad before the majority of cabin attendants ceased being white or near white.

 

Indeed even today when I look at CALs promotional materials it does look like the vast majority of their employees are either mixed or Indian, with blacks being a distinct minority.

Cal had to renew its contract with the GOG after bWIA was divested and they had become a different entity and thus invalidating the BWIA contract. The GOG could have chosen not to renew the contract if they were racist, however they did not and this debunks your theory that GOG only gives contracts to Indians. 

 

As for your perusal of Cal's promotional material, I know of many maid and lawn services that show white folks doing the work but when the actual workers show up to clean house and cut lawn, they are hispanic. Maybe you should have a word with  Corbie as he is the man making those decisions. A brochure does not indicate the racial makeup of the organization. 

FM
Originally Posted by creative:

EZ-JET Associates would be exposed soon.Sonny D.in Jail in Florida,when he get his next Court appearance he will sing like a canary.

I hear his throat gone sore from all that singing practice. So he might have to sing like a chicken.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
.

Cal had to renew its contract with the GOG after bWIA was divested and they had become a different entity and thus invalidating the BWIA contract. The GOG could have chosen not to renew the contract if they were racist, however they did not and this debunks your theory that GOG only gives contracts to Indians. 

 

As for your perusal of Cal's promotional material, I know of many maid and lawn services that show white folks doing the work but when the actual workers show up to clean house and cut lawn, they are hispanic. Maybe you should have a word with  Corbie as he is the man making those decisions. A brochure does not indicate the racial makeup of the organization. 

You are going on as if the PPP has any choice.  CAL is owned by the T&T gov't which is run by Kamla Persad who is INDIAN.  The only airline which has had an interest in GEO on a consistent basis has been BWIA/CAL. 

 

Had the PPP canceled service by CAL under Manning then GEO would have had very little service as North American was the only other airline at the time, plus LIAT.  

 

CAL inherited all the route rights that BWIA had, including service to the USA, Canada and the UK.  And definitely into the CARICOM countries to which they fly.  This is a FACT.

 

Now that Delta has gone if another foreign carrier was interested they would have announced plans for Guyana.  They aren't.  So the PPP is left mumbling some incoherent nonsense about Air China running service to JFK when their planes are too big/heavy for GEO. 

 

 

In their desperation a summer approaches and CAL is 100% booked to JFK in economy and is only selling business class they reluctantly beg Fly Jamaica.  It is not even known if they will start this service soon as we do not know if the US has granted permission, and in any case they are expanding flights from Jamaica right now.

 

Corbie is ACTING CEO.  This should indicate to you that he does not have to much juice.  He has been ACTING for quite a while now.   Indeed had you been following what has been going on with that airline you would have realized that it has been the CHAIRMAN who has been making all the decisions with Corbie just being in charge of day to day operations.  He doesn't set policy.  He just ensures that what the Chairman wants gets done.

 

 

Indeed a Syrian, who is Kamla's brother in law, almost ran CAL into the ground and is to blame for their current financial problems.  She even put a pandit on CALs board, though he is among those recently fired.

 

Calling CAL a black airline is as much of a joke as your assertion that 10% of 43% is 10%.

 

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

You are going on as if the PPP has any choice.  CAL is owned by the T&T gov't which is run by Kamla Persad who is INDIAN.  The only airline which has had an interest in GEO on a consistent basis has been BWIA/CAL. 

 

Had the PPP canceled service by CAL under Manning then GEO would have had very little service as North American was the only other airline at the time, plus LIAT.  

 

CAL inherited all the route rights that BWIA had, including service to the USA, Canada and the UK.  And definitely into the CARICOM countries to which they fly.  This is a FACT.

 

Now that Delta has gone if another foreign carrier was interested they would have announced plans for Guyana.  They aren't.  So the PPP is left mumbling some incoherent nonsense about Air China running service to JFK when their planes are too big/heavy for GEO. 

 

 

In their desperation a summer approaches and CAL is 100% booked to JFK in economy and is only selling business class they reluctantly beg Fly Jamaica.  It is not even known if they will start this service soon as we do not know if the US has granted permission, and in any case they are expanding flights from Jamaica right now.

 

Corbie is ACTING CEO.  This should indicate to you that he does not have to much juice.  He has been ACTING for quite a while now.   Indeed had you been following what has been going on with that airline you would have realized that it has been the CHAIRMAN who has been making all the decisions with Corbie just being in charge of day to day operations.  He doesn't set policy.  He just ensures that what the Chairman wants gets done.

 

 

Indeed a Syrian, who is Kamla's brother in law, almost ran CAL into the ground and is to blame for their current financial problems.  She even put a pandit on CALs board, though he is among those recently fired.

 

 

At the time when BWIA was disbanded, Cal was formed and permission to fly Guyana, Manning, a Black man, was the president in 2006.  

 

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And let us not forget that GOG gave Redjet and Delta permission to fly the Guyana route. Your claim that the GOG only gives permission to airlines if it is Indian owned debunked again. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

At the time when BWIA was disbanded, Cal was formed and permission to fly Guyana, Manning, a Black man, was the president in 2006.  

 

6Patrick Manning
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And let us not forget that GOG gave Redjet and Delta permission to fly the Guyana route. Your claim that the GOG only gives permission to airlines if it is Indian owned debunked again. 

Druggie I repeat.  What alternative did the PPP have but to allow BWIA's grandfathered rights for service to Guyana to not be transferred to CAL?

 

In any case CAL is NOT a black owned airline, unless you are telling me that Trinidad is a black country, and 62% of them will be surprised to hear that.

 

Where are all the Indo owned airlines today supported by the PPP/  Note that its the PPP supporters who threaten to burn down Freedom House every time one of them collapsed leaving them stranded in PPP run Guyana.

 

Allowing CAL to fly to Guyana is critical as PPP supporters need a means to flee Guyana.  And indeed it was the PPP which blamed CAL for the demise of EZjet.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie I repeat.  What alternative did the PPP have but to allow BWIA's grandfathered rights for service to Guyana to not be transferred to CAL?

 

In any case CAL is NOT a black owned airline, unless you are telling me that Trinidad is a black country, and 62% of them will be surprised to hear that.

 

Where are all the Indo owned airlines today supported by the PPP/  Note that its the PPP supporters who threaten to burn down Freedom House every time one of them collapsed leaving them stranded in PPP run Guyana.

 

Allowing CAL to fly to Guyana is critical as PPP supporters need a means to flee Guyana.  And indeed it was the PPP which blamed CAL for the demise of EZjet.

It is black owned, tell the 34% of Trini Blacks and 16% ownership by Jamaican Blacks that they don't own Cal airlines in conjunction with the other races that comprise the remaining. 

Regardless of the motives of the PPP, the fact remains that your theory that permission to fly the Guyana air route is only given to Indians. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
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It is black owned, tell the 34% of Trini Blacks and 16% ownership by Jamaican Blacks that they don't own Cal airlines in conjunction with the other races that comprise the remaining. 

Regardless of the motives of the PPP, the fact remains that your theory that permission to fly the Guyana air route is only given to Indians. 

Tell you what Jamaicans will tell you that CAL is a TRini airline and "dem nah fly no TRini ting". 

 

Trinidad is 40% Indian, 38% African, 20% mixed with Syrians, Chinese and whites accounting for the rest.  Given that its owned by the citizens of a HIGHLY multi ethnic nation I wonder since when it becomes black owned.

 

Give it up druggie.  CAL is NOT black owned.

 

Please post a link to where I stated that the PPP only gives permission to Indian owned airlines.  I know that they would wish to do this but PPP supporters in their haste to flee Guyana will never allow that.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Tell you what Jamaicans will tell you that CAL is a TRini airline and "dem nah fly no TRini ting". 

 

Trinidad is 40% Indian, 38% African, 20% mixed with Syrians, Chinese and whites accounting for the rest.  Given that its owned by the citizens of a HIGHLY multi ethnic nation I wonder since when it becomes black owned.

 

Give it up druggie.  CAL is NOT black owned.

 

Please post a link to where I stated that the PPP only gives permission to Indian owned airlines.  I know that they would wish to do this but PPP supporters in their haste to flee Guyana will never allow that.

When a person has 20% black you refer to him as Black as in Tiger Woods and Obama, why would Cal be any different? hahaha

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
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When a person has 20% black you refer to him as Black as in Tiger Woods and Obama, why would Cal be any different? hahaha


 

 

I suggest that you ask Obama why he considers himself to be black, because its clear that the only blacks he likes are his wife, daughters and a few close friends.

 

In fact you have  a habit of calling people like the Corbie black when you know in the Caribbean he is "red".

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

I suggest that you ask Obama why he considers himself to be black, because its clear that the only blacks he likes are his wife, daughters and a few close friends.

 

In fact you have  a habit of calling people like the Corbie black when you know in the Caribbean he is "red".

You should ask him that question, it seems that you hate him because he is not ghetto. This is the difference between those who stay in the slums and the ones that move to the suburbs, the values and social circles are different. Take Mitwah, Baseman, Jalil, Kari and Cain, they all have values that are lowlife, a direct result of where the live and the type of people they associate with. D2 heading down the same path and so are you. 

FM

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