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No one is going to argue against the proposition that the PNC dictatorship was unfair and unjust to the whole population and specifically it was indeed racist in its orientation towards Indians.

 

However, almost every Indo man jack amongst us survived the deprivations and injustices of the system because we knew one or two or three or several or more Blacks that made our lives livable at times and perhaps even ensured our economic or physical survival at a crucial point. That there were certain Blacks who enjoyed the sadistic exercise of their power over us in their little fiefdoms especially in denying us even the most meagre government "benefits" such as a passport there is no doubt, but there were far more Blacks from Burnham himself to certain of his Cabinet Ministers to local police officers and local public servants who displayed humanity and a significant degree of fairness to us (Indians). Even those who got a lil freck out of the deal.

 

When my grandfather talks about Wismar, he also remembers his Black friend who courageously smuggled two Indian boys out in rice bags as though they were livestock.

 

I was a child in the 80s but I recount our Black neighbors helping us to hide our almost 1 ton or more of banned goods from an impending surprise police visit one day.

 

Even my friend Malcolm Harripaul recounts how as a young GDF officer, he encountered racism in getting a credit union loan and Granger personally placed a phone call to command the credit union to "Bring his check in 5 minutes".

 

I'm sure there are numerous other instances of Blacks who helped their fellow Indo countrymen get something done if they possessed the magic Party Card or some government connection or something we needed and they availed it to us out of humanity or friendship. Therefore, we cannot continue this blood libel against all Blacks for what some Blacks did to us individually. It's time we look back with a more dispassionate and nuanced eye.

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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

No one is going to argue against the proposition that the PNC dictatorship was unfair and unjust to the whole population and specifically it was indeed racist in its orientation towards Indians.

 

However, almost every Indo man jack amongst us survived the deprivations and injustices of the system because we knew one or two or three or several or more Blacks that made our lives livable at times and perhaps even ensured our economic or physical survival at a crucial point. That there were certain Blacks who enjoyed the sadistic exercise of their power over us in their little fiefdoms especially in denying us even the most meagre government "benefits" such as a passport there is no doubt, but there were far more Blacks from Burnham himself to certain of his Cabinet Ministers to local police officers and local public servants who displayed humanity and a significant degree of fairness to us (Indians). Even those who got a lil freck out of the deal.

 

When my grandfather talks about Wismar, he also remembers his Black friend who courageously smuggled two Indian boys out in rice bags as though they were livestock.

 

I was a child in the 80s but I recount our Black neighbors helping us to hide our almost 1 ton or more of banned goods from an impending surprise police visit one day.

 

Even my friend Malcolm Harripaul recounts how as a young GDF officer, he encountered racism in getting a credit union loan and Granger personally placed a phone call to command the credit union to "Bring his check in 5 minutes".

 

I'm sure there are numerous other instances of Blacks who helped their fellow Indo countrymen get something done if they possessed the magic Party Card or some government connection or something we needed and they availed it to us out of humanity or friendship. Therefore, we cannot continue this blood libel against all Blacks for what some Blacks did to us individually. It's time we look back with a more dispassionate and nuanced eye.

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

FM
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Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

Yet you embraced PNC street thugs you claim to have brutalized you, the likes of Lumumba, Bynoe, Edghill, Hamilton, Kwame, Rabbi Washington, etc, etc.

 

You must be a real sucker for punishment or you simply like the strong black street thug type.

Mars
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

Yet you embraced PNC street thugs you claim to have brutalized you, the likes of Lumumba, Bynoe, Edghill, Hamilton, Kwame, Rabbi Washington, etc, etc.

 

You must be a real sucker for punishment or you simply like the strong black street thug type.

Dunce

 

You keep your enemies on leash and feed them scraps. Ever seen the movie the Godfather ?

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Yugi you are a congenital racist. You lack credibility.

 

You lack basic intelligence to engage. No wonder you are the most banned member here due to your vulgarity and nonsense.

 

The bossman should put you in the slammer again for your lack of intelligence.

Administration was wrong. GNI administration violated my fundamental rights. You are a  hard core MF racist and that supersedes all vulgarity. You lack basic common sense.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

Yet you embraced PNC street thugs you claim to have brutalized you, the likes of Lumumba, Bynoe, Edghill, Hamilton, Kwame, Rabbi Washington, etc, etc.

 

You must be a real sucker for punishment or you simply like the strong black street thug type.

Dunce

 

You keep your enemies on leash and feed them scraps. Ever seen the movie the Godfather ?

You love feeling Kwamee up your poop chute.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

Yet you embraced PNC street thugs you claim to have brutalized you, the likes of Lumumba, Bynoe, Edghill, Hamilton, Kwame, Rabbi Washington, etc, etc.

 

You must be a real sucker for punishment or you simply like the strong black street thug type.

Dunce

 

You keep your enemies on leash and feed them scraps. Ever seen the movie the Godfather ?

Your highest level of academic achievement is fourth form at Skeldon Linepath Secondary and you're calling me dunce? Surely you jest "down the coast!"

 

You like the strong big black man in control of you. Fifty shades of black!   

Mars
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 Was Moses kicked, spat on , beaten like a DOG and thrown to the  Parpet to die when Granger was a Senior member ofhe Army???  A simple question, make it simple and quick.

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

Yet you embraced PNC street thugs you claim to have brutalized you, the likes of Lumumba, Bynoe, Edghill, Hamilton, Kwame, Rabbi Washington, etc, etc.

 

You must be a real sucker for punishment or you simply like the strong black street thug type.

 

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 Was Moses kicked, spat on , beaten like a DOG and thrown to the  Parpet to die when Granger was a Senior member ofhe Army???  A simple question, make it simple and quick.

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

Yet you embraced PNC street thugs you claim to have brutalized you, the likes of Lumumba, Bynoe, Edghill, Hamilton, Kwame, Rabbi Washington, etc, etc.

 

You must be a real sucker for punishment or you simply like the strong black street thug type.

 

 

Moses (Crab dawg) was spat on and kicked and beaten up, the PNC gave him broken ribs. Now he acts like a STRAY DOG and joins the PNC as a result of the AFC collapsing and damaged beyond repair.

 

Today, Moses sold out Indo Guyanese for a few pieces of silver just like Judas did.

 

Guyanese will never vote for the Neemakharam Moses.

FM
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Honor Before Money
 
February 19, 2014 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Wally:

In 1972 1973 and 1974 several Guyana Police Force members just stood and watched as very large bricks and broken bottles were thrown at PPP activists and speakers at public meetings.  

Wally, in 1974 the PPP held a public meeting at Kitty to mark the first anniversary of the rigged 1973 elections. I picked up Maccie Hamid at his home nearby and we attended the meeting. Dr Jagan was billed the main speaker. Moses was there too. Just before Dr Jagan spoke the YSM/PNC thugs started harassing the speaker. It got wilder when Dr Jagan took the microphone. Moses asked me to guard a loudspeaker what was hung on the fence of the Kitty Anjuman Orphanage. Just as Moses moved away from me there was a commotion and I saw a police horse trampling on Moses. He was hauled away to Kitty Police Station. Some comrades put Dr Jagan in his car and drove away. Reep, myself, Maccie and a few others walked to the police station to secure Moses' release. He complained of pains from the horse kicks. We drove him to Georgetown hospital for treatment. Some of his ribs were broken.

At that Kitty meeting the police didn't arrest a single YSM thug.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

PNC never cleaned their closet. PNC is the same old PNC with the same old PNC dawgs.

 

As per Gil and Moses, Indos are for sale for free to the PNC:

 

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Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

No one is going to argue against the proposition that the PNC dictatorship was unfair and unjust to the whole population and specifically it was indeed racist in its orientation towards Indians.

 

However, almost every Indo man jack amongst us survived the deprivations and injustices of the system because we knew one or two or three or several or more Blacks that made our lives livable at times and perhaps even ensured our economic or physical survival at a crucial point. That there were certain Blacks who enjoyed the sadistic exercise of their power over us in their little fiefdoms especially in denying us even the most meagre government "benefits" such as a passport there is no doubt, but there were far more Blacks from Burnham himself to certain of his Cabinet Ministers to local police officers and local public servants who displayed humanity and a significant degree of fairness to us (Indians). Even those who got a lil freck out of the deal.

 

When my grandfather talks about Wismar, he also remembers his Black friend who courageously smuggled two Indian boys out in rice bags as though they were livestock.

 

I was a child in the 80s but I recount our Black neighbors helping us to hide our almost 1 ton or more of banned goods from an impending surprise police visit one day.

 

Even my friend Malcolm Harripaul recounts how as a young GDF officer, he encountered racism in getting a credit union loan and Granger personally placed a phone call to command the credit union to "Bring his check in 5 minutes".

 

I'm sure there are numerous other instances of Blacks who helped their fellow Indo countrymen get something done if they possessed the magic Party Card or some government connection or something we needed and they availed it to us out of humanity or friendship. Therefore, we cannot continue this blood libel against all Blacks for what some Blacks did to us individually. It's time we look back with a more dispassionate and nuanced eye.

 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

Examine the PNC and you will see individuals like Carl Grenade (Greenidge)  and Oscar Clarke who are still in charge of the PNC and ready to pounce upon us again.

 

I remember the late Sat telling us during a trip to Ottawa about how he had to hide in a toilet for days during the riots. He saw Afros slashing and murdering Indos.

 

Do you expect Indos to embrace these thugs again ?

 

The PNC never cleaned their closet.

 

Hey Dude,

 

No Black person ever helped you and/your family in during the PNC era?

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

Shaits

 

Our problem is not with Blacks.

 

 

 

Yes it is as the PYO thugs certainly enjoyed chopping up blacks in 1964, and yet you wish that part of Guyana's history to be forgotten.

 

The PPP is a Indo KKK party devoted to abusing black people, which is why the overwhelming majority REJECT them, even despite the PNC ineptitude.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

Great, but why aren't you in the rice fields and in the cane fields telling people this?

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
I don't remember us being upset with the PNC and their chosen representatives for not helping us or giving us benefits. I renembered we were upset that we couldn't get those benefits on our effort alone. That we can only get them if we had contacts was what dismayed us during the PNC days.

 

I understand. I was just making the point of this lazy and pretty dishonest way of maligning "Black People" as a group for the sins of the PNC as a regime and the behavior of individual Black racists in that regime.

 

We as Indians demand a separation be made between ourselves and the PPP as a regime and the behavior of individual Indian racists in that regime.

 

Just look at Cobra here. People could be forgiven for thinking all Samaroos are PPP lap daags who spend their days and nights scared of Black people and frothing at the mouth at the mere thought of douglarization. However, that's not true. Cobra is actually an anomaly.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

Great, but why aren't you in the rice fields and in the cane fields telling people this?

Why are you being an ass ole? What are you doing?  Why don't you get off your fat lazy black ass and come to Guyana and do something rather than hiding behind your key board and posting shit.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

Great, but why aren't you in the rice fields and in the cane fields telling people this?

Why are you being an ass ole? What are you doing?  Why don't you get off your fat lazy black ass and come to Guyana and do something rather than hiding behind your key board and posting shit.

Mits, Why are you so angry, take it easy, we are all in North America playing politics. Would you go back to Guyana to live? even if the coalition wins in May??? I give nuff respect to the poor people in Guyana who have to struggle every day. Organize and adopt a village, a school, offer scholarship to needy kids. Guyana has become a piggy bank for all politicians, I lived the time when PNC joined with UF, I lived the PNC era, I know what is hardships .Whatever said and done Guyana is a TWO party State, and we have seen both of them in action.

K
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Why are you being an ass ole? What are you doing?  Why don't you get off your fat lazy black ass and come to Guyana and do something rather than hiding behind your key board and posting shit.

 

 

I see.  So Nagamootoo and Granger should continue to make lofty statements in the comfort of Pegasus and I must go out into the rice fields to advance their case?

 

Is that your point?

 

What sense does it make for ordinary people to spend their scarce resources to help these "gentlemen" if they themselves seem to lack the fire to go out there and campaign and whip up the crowds.

 

You do NOT launch a campaign in some hotel with specially invited guests.

 

You go to the VOTERS where the VOTERS LIVE to do so.

 

If APNU AFC fails to understand this why should I go to Guyana?  To hear them say "the sun too hot, why you want me to campaign in some rice field, or bauxite mine?"

FM
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Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

Great, but why aren't you in the rice fields and in the cane fields telling people this?

Why are you being an ass ole? What are you doing?  Why don't you get off your fat lazy black ass and come to Guyana and do something rather than hiding behind your key board and posting shit.

Mits, Why are you so angry, take it easy, we are all in North America playing politics. Would you go back to Guyana to live? even if the coalition wins in May??? I give nuff respect to the poor people in Guyana who have to struggle every day. Organize and adopt a village, a school, offer scholarship to needy kids. Guyana has become a piggy bank for all politicians, I lived the time when PNC joined with UF, I lived the PNC era, I know what is hardships .Whatever said and done Guyana is a TWO party State, and we have seen both of them in action.

I am not angry. I still have my house there. I do have an interest here. There are 2 things preventing me from returning. That is health care and security. Caribj is a racist and he is  full of horse manure.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Why are you being an ass ole? What are you doing?  Why don't you get off your fat lazy black ass and come to Guyana and do something rather than hiding behind your key board and posting shit.

 

 

I see.  So Nagamootoo and Granger should continue to make lofty statements in the comfort of Pegasus and I must go out into the rice fields to advance their case?

 

Is that your point?

 

What sense does it make for ordinary people to spend their scarce resources to help these "gentlemen" if they themselves seem to lack the fire to go out there and campaign and whip up the crowds.

 

You do NOT launch a campaign in some hotel with specially invited guests.

 

You go to the VOTERS where the VOTERS LIVE to do so.

 

If APNU AFC fails to understand this why should I go to Guyana?  To hear them say "the sun too hot, why you want me to campaign in some rice field, or bauxite mine?"

Like I said you are full of horse manure and you are pissing against the wind. You are a dunce. When will you ever learn?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
. I do have an interest here. There are 2 things preventing me from returning. That is health care and security. Caribj is a racist and he is  full of horse manure.

I see so I must spend my money and time to campaign for a group of people who I consider to be inept and incompetent and unwilling to do what it takes to win.

 

You blindly cheer them and call me racist because I don't blindly sing their song.  Typical AFC.  Want others to do the work that they themselves don't want to do.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Like I said you are full of horse manure and you are pissing against the wind. You are a dunce. When will you ever learn?

Let us analyze this remark and see how enlightening it is.

 

I see once a PPP always a PPP. Cannot help yourself even though you now have an in house fight with them.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
. I do have an interest here. There are 2 things preventing me from returning. That is health care and security. Caribj is a racist and he is  full of horse manure.

I see so I must spend my money and time to campaign for a group of people who I consider to be inept and incompetent and unwilling to do what it takes to win.

 

You blindly cheer them and call me racist because I don't blindly sing their song.  Typical AFC.  Want others to do the work that they themselves don't want to do.

it so easy to contradict  than to help don't worry other people  will take your people out of bondage 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Like I said you are full of horse manure and you are pissing against the wind. You are a dunce. When will you ever learn?

Let us analyze this remark and see how enlightening it is.

 

I see once a PPP always a PPP. Cannot help yourself even though you now have an in house fight with them.

 

As an Indian, I juss be so embarrassed at these childish retorts in political discussions.

 

One can appreciate a well timed and well delivered witty remark even a vulgar one. But these are all just crude, unfunny and not even in use at primary school.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Today, Gil and Moses join the PNC thugs and are now selling Indos to the PNC for free. Lot stock and barrel.

Gil and Moses are forward-looking persons. We are not trapped in the past. We want an end to racial politics. We want national unity. We want our young Guyanese to look forward to a promising future.

Great, but why aren't you in the rice fields and in the cane fields telling people this?

you sure you living in the right century 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
 

Like I said you are full of horse manure and you are pissing against the wind. You are a dunce. When will you ever learn?

Let us analyze this remark and see how enlightening it is.

 

I see once a PPP always a PPP. Cannot help yourself even though you now have an in house fight with them.

You are an ass to think that I have an in house fight with anyone. Try analyzing the crap you post. You make up your own arguments and when confronted you run off at a tangent. For an Ivy School Grad, you do write a lot of nonsense but then again you lack common sense.

Mitwah

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